Guest guest Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Shaileshji, Jupiter gets exalted in 8th from Sagittarius. Also it is their (Venus & Jupiter) Moolatrikona signs from where they are exalted in dustanas. As Gurus they both get exalted in Moksh trikona, in watery signs, of the natural Zodiac. Probably it is the relation between their office work & their choice work(which gives real happiness),I think. I know it is sketchy, but that is how far i could go. regards viswanadham , "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya || > > Namaste, > > A small doubt - VEN gets exalted in 6th from its sign LIB & JUP gets exalted in 6th from its sign SAG - not so for others!! > > Any deeper meaning in it?? > > Regards & best wishes, > > Shailesh > CDs of ACHYUTA WORKSHOP [NJ, USA, Jan.2003] http://uk.geocities.com/sjc_east/AchyutaCD.html vedic astrology CDs & Books/AchyutaCD.doc > CDs of VARGA CHAKRA WORKSHOP [Hyderabad, Dec.2002] http://uk.geocities.com/sjc_east/VargaChakraCD.html vedic astrology CDs & Books /VargaChakraCD.doc > > > > > - > "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> > <> > Thursday, May 08, 2003 4:12 PM > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha > > > > Dear Visti, > > Interesting mail. Just out of curiosity for the little baby born > > with liver problems from birth, Venus in 6th in own sign .. it must > > have Ashtkavarga bindus less than 4. > > I am curious to know its AV bindus. Can you check the data and let > > me know with Varharamiras BAV scheme please. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> > > wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > ------------------- > > > Dear Chandrashekhar, > > > Your right, i missed the sloka numbers in your post. My mistake. > > > This other Sloka's translation states that Lord of 8th house is > > inauspicious, unless it also lords the Lagna. And in such case it > > only becomes auspicious incase its placed in lagna or 8th.. This is > > with reference to Aries and Libra Lagnas. > > > > > > I disagree somewhat with this translation, as per the teachings i > > have recieved and my experience. > > > Examples i can cite: > > > If Mars is in Scorpio for Aries Lagna, the native will be involved > > in countless health problems, but will survive. Similarly is the > > case of Venus in Taurus for Libra natives.. i have even seen such > > Dasa's give depression and what not. The remedy is to wear the gem > > of the exaltation sign of the planet, or the Gem of the planet > > itself to ensure strength. > > > > > > Focus is that the placement of the Lord in either of its own > > signs, will dominate the effects over the other house. This seems to > > agree with Parasara's views. i.e. for a Taurus native born with > > Venus in Libra (6th house) the baby boy was born with chronic liver > > problems throughout life. Surely Venus proved inauspicious for the > > Lagna, but promoted the 6th house effects. > > > Or incase of Aries Lagna with Jupiter in Pisces.. Jupiter lording > > Sag the 9th house, caused premature loss of father, as the 12th > > house dominated the effects. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Visti > > > --- > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > > - > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:17 PM > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > I had given shloka numbers in the post. The second nature states > > that Malefic effects of Jupiter and Venus become more pronounced as > > compared to other planets if they own angles and occupy 7th house. > > This implies that they are malefic even when not placed in 7th house. > > > Further as the signs owned by Jupiter are in square with each > > other, it follows that out of possible four Quadrant ownerships he > > would be malefic only when he is lord of 4th and 7th and 7th and > > 10th if we apply of the kendradhipati dosha not being applicable if > > a Lor of Lagna. > > > Had, as you propose, being Lagnesh been enough to confer > > beneficence on a planet been the correct position then the Shloka > > Nio.9 of Laghu Parashari would be rendered not applicable. it is > > said in shloka 9 .that Lord of the 8th by being lord of 12th from > > 9th does not produce good results; but if he happens to be Lord of > > the Ascendant AND is placed in Ascendant or 8th house he becomes a > > benefic. Note that any other position occupied by him does not make > > him a benefic though he is Lord of Ascendant. > > > So my question is , how do we reconcile this with the > > caterogarical statement that Lord of Ascendant is always benefic? > > > Regards, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > - > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Wednesday, May 07, 2003 5:11 PM > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > ------------------- > > > Dear Chandrashekhar, > > > Please give sloka numbers next time for our own reference. > > > The First Sloka describes the Kendradhipati Dosha, whilst the > > 2nd one refers to the case of the Kendradhipati becoming Maraka as > > well due to its placement in the 7th. > > > > > > Now your question seems to be refering to Jupiter causing this > > Kendradhipati Dosha and placed in Maraka Sthana, which are said to > > give very malefic results. > > > The special note here is that Lagna lord cannot cause > > Kendradhipati Dosha. This is confirmed by Parasara and Madhya > > Parasari i.e.: "The lords of 1st, 5th and 9th are most auspicious". > > > Does this answer your question? > > > > > > Please in future use Itrans 99 font, so we can establish a > > standard on this list for use of Sanskrit fonts. > > > For those who do wanto read the previous slokas the susha and > > shivaji fonts can be downloaded here: > > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/9988/ > > > Best wishes > > > Visti > > > --- > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > > - > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:12 PM > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > How do we reconcile this with Laghu Parashari shloka which > > says" 1 > > > na idSaint SauBaM naRNaaM saaOmya: kond`aiQapayaid > > > > > > `kUraScaodSauBaM (oto `pbalaa }<arao<arma\ > > > > > > and 2 > > > > > > kond`aiQap%yadaoYastu balavaana\ gau$Sau `kyaao: > > > > > > mark%vao|ip ca tyaaomaa-rksqaanasaMisqait: > > > > > > especially as Jupiter is likely to be Lagnesh in 2 of the 4 > > possible positions as kendradhipati. > > > > > > The fonts I have used are shivaji01 fonts of Susha fonts for > > devanagari reproductions of shloka 7 and 10 quoted above. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:38 AM > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > ----------------------- > > > Dear Tanvir and Sarajit, Namaste. > > > > > > 1. You have said that a lord of kendra devoid of Trikona > > association will suffer from this dosha. here by the term "Trikona > > association" do you mean that they will have to lord over a trikona > > (1, 5, 9) necessarily, or only placed in asc / 5th / 9th or joining > > with these lords suffices this condition of association with trikona? > > > > > > Visti: > > > lord of a kendra; > > > i) lords a trine. > > > ii) joins a trine. > > > iii) joins a trinal lord. > > > iv) has sambandha with a trinal lord. > > > Such an association with make the planet Yoga Karaka. > > Hence Yoga Karaka is not limited to lordship of a Kendra and Trikona. > > > > > > 2. This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this > > dosha. Will natural malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also > > suffer from this dosha? > > > > > > Visti: This is understood in the principle of the > > Upachaya Sthana, where growth is the focal point and lords of > > Upachaya Sthana (excepting 10th lord), are deemed malefic-results. > > > The reason stems from the nature of growth. The tree grows > > roots, and needs more water, more room and more attention from the > > Sun, hence obstructing other plants and tree's from doing the same. > > Hence Malefics do not suffer under this Dosha as they are able to > > change their surroundings at their will, whilst Benefics who by > > nature are soft and nurturing will not do so and as a result confer > > destruction on their own house, just as a pious person wavors away > > the desire todo any type of evil, at the consequence of loosing > > home, reputation and etc. > > > Hence the lordship and natural traits of the planet become > > understood through this. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Visti > > > --- > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > > - > > > Tanvir > > > > > > Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:35 AM > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti Jee, > > > I have two questions though - > > > > > > 1. You have said that a lord of kendra devoid of Trikona > > association will suffer from this dosha. here by the term "Trikona > > association" do you mean that they will have to lord over a trikona > > (1, 5, 9) necessarily, or only placed in asc / 5th / 9th or joining > > with these lords suffices this condition of association with trikona? > > > > > > 2. This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this > > dosha. Will natural malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also > > suffer from this dosha? > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > "What can not happen, can never happen. > > > Which is mine, is forever mine." > > > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > > tanvir@s... > > > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > > > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Tuesday, May 06, 2003 2:34 AM > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > -------------------- > > > Dear List, > > > The definition of Kendradhipati Dosha is now being > > given anew. > > > > > > Kendradhipati means lord of Kendra's and its said that > > planets lording Kendra's devoid of Trikona association causes > > Kendradhipati Dosha. > > > > > > Now the propper reasoning and definition is important > > for otherwise even clever Jyotishas will go wrong and proclaim all > > sorts of results for Kendradhipati Dosha. > > > > > > > > > The 4 quadrant-houses - viz. Lagna, 10th, 7th and 4th, > > represent the 4 Gayatris, or 4 times of prayer, namely; Brahma, > > Vishnu, Shiva and Kali Gayatri respectively occuring at Sunrise, > > Midday, Sunset and Midnight respectively. > > > > > > Among these 4 houses, the 10th house is also an > > Upachaya house (3,6,10,11), showing that the 10th house is the MOST > > powerful house and has the greatest importance in ensuring our > > GROWTH in this world. This growth stems from actions, and the 10th > > house is the seat of our Indriyas from which ALL actions resonate > > from. > > > > > > Now the 10th house is a trine to the 2nd and 6th > > houses, hence going by the name - Artha trikona, or that which will > > sustain us in this world, and hence the 10th house is the MOST > > important house in the chart, working to sustain us and make us grow > > in this world! > > > > > > Hence; among the 4 quadrants the 10th house of Vishnu > > Gayatri becomes the most powerful and the quadrants to it are the > > pillars of the natives life, all working to support the 10th house.. > > For this reason the Kendra's are called VISHNU STHANA. > > > > > > > > > Now what is the use of all this work and actions if > > there are no fruits? The Midday is the peak of the workday where > > there is most activity and where the worship of Vishnu is the > > highest! But if Lakshmi is not there then the work will carry NO > > FRUITS, and this is the TRUE definition of Kendradhipati Dosha! > > > > > > The Bhavas causing the blessings of Lakshmi are the > > 5th and 9th houses, and shows when the work/worship will carry > > fruits, or when they will be useless. This is the principles of > > creative power. > > > > > > Hence; whenever a Kendra lord (especially the 10th > > lord) is not associated with trikona sign or lord, theres > > Kendradhipati Dosha and the fruits of labour are not reaped, and > > allthough the native puts in great effort, they suffer terrible > > distress due to lack of acknowledgement for their actions. > > > > > > There is one exception to this rule however. If the > > planet is lord of Lagna, then there is no Kendradhipati Dosha, as > > how could your birth occur if you were not created? Hence a planet > > lording the Lagna, is by nature both a Kendra and Trikona lord. > > > The definition should be clear now. > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha! > > > Best wishes > > > Visti > > > --- > > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : - > > > To : - > > > > > > Terms > > of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : - > > > To : - > > > > > > Terms > > of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : - > > > To : > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : - > > > To : > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : - > > > To : > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > Send a blank mail > > To : - > > To : > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release 4/19/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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