Guest guest Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 Thank you very much for the helpful information and for your detailed explanations. - ">schinnas <schinnas > Monday, February 10, 2003 5:54 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Saiva schools and sects Dear Alexandra, Veera Saivam is another famous Saiva school (or religion) which is against the concept of varna/caste and many other beliefs of traditional hinduism. However, in practise I learnt that this religion is considered as a caste in India and followed only in tradition and not in spirit (like most other religions, I might add!).There is another major religion called Suddha sanmargam which originated from Tamil Saiva Siddhanta, but it does not worship Shiva or any other form of God. The major exponent of this religion is the famous Saint Ramalinga Adigalar (www.vallalar.org). I am giving below the salient features of Sanmargam as I understand it. The goal of Sanmargam is to attain immortality with the human body itself and it asserts that real moksha is attainment of immortality with a deathless body. Ramalinga Adigalar attained immortality It also declares that the concept of idol worship and varna are just symbolisms and need not be followed. While Sanmargam holds vedas, purans, Saiva Siddhanta literature etc to be true, it also accuses vedas/puranas/scriptures of hiding the real truth behind mythical locks and asserts that all other religious paths including vedanta are just stepping stones to Sanmargam. As a result, Ramalinga Adigalar asks his disciples to stop spending time in trying to break the "locks" of vedas and puranic literature (like Mahabharatha, Ramayana, etc) but to follow Sanmargam. A fundamental philosophy of this path is that there is only one god who permeates everything and is to be seen in the form of divine grace light. True compassion towards all jeevas (plants and animals) and sincere bhakthi is necessary to bring in grace of God by which deathlessness can be attained. A person that attains deathless body dissolves into ether/space. They will NOT leave their body behind. From Agastya, Thirumoolar, Bogar, Babaji (paramguru of Yogananda), Madhavacharya, Adi Shankara, nayanmars of Saiva Siddhanta tradition, to Ramalinga Adigalar, many have attained such deathlessness (they never left their physical body dead - they just disappeared). The classic Thiruarutpa narrates each stage in attaining deathlessness and the first stage is attainment of suddha deham (or pure body). It says such a body will not cast its shadow on earth. Indeed, many saints never left their shadow and neither can be photographed (Modern examples: Lahiri Mahasaya - Paramguru of Paramahansa Yogananda, Ramalinga Adigalar, etc.) In final stages, the physical body cannot be seen by ordinary eyes, and the person disappears! Sanmargam declares that those saints that leave a dead body will be born again but in higher lokhas and havent attained final moksha.There are also other forms of Saiva Siddhanta which are referred to in centuries old classical texts in Tamil. However, I am not aware of those and they dont have any mass following currently.-Siva.-- In , "Alexandra Kafka" <alexandra.kafka@a...> wrote:> I am in search for information about Saiva schools and sects. I know about the great tradition of Kashmir Saivaism with many schools and sub-schools, and about the Saiva > Siddhanta tradition of South India. > Are there other Saiva schools or sects?> > Kind regards,> Alexandra[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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