Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 Mc: As I said in an earlier e-mail, Mc is combust by Sn 25% of the time. More important, Mc is virtually always (say 80% of the time, just to pick a number) in the same sign as malefic Sn. So, for Mc's disposition, should I ignore Sn's conjunction, & see OTHER natural malefics conjoining/ planetary aspecting it, to know whether it is benefic or malefic in a chart? Mn: As per Gurudev's teaching, Mn is definitely malefic AND weak, in the 60 deg arc each side around its conjunction with the Sn, ie 1/3th of the time (& elsewhere, he says: from 8th krishna (waning) to 8th shukla (waxing) phase, which is 12/30= 144 deg, out of 360: I am getting some maths wrong somewhere, or not understood Gurudev clearly). Anyway, to go on: Next, criteria, like Mc, is its conjunction/ planetary aspects received. Ignoring the Sn & Mn themselves, Given that there are more natural malefics (St, Ma, Ra, Ke) than benefics (Ve, Jp & a usually malefic Mc: ref above, or should I ignore Mc's effect on Mn, ref next para?). So in the balance 1/3rd of the time ALSO, there would be more malefic influences on Mn vs benefic, most of the time. So Mn (like Mc) would be malefic in a very large number of charts. And in turn, a largely malefic Mn conjoining/ aspecting Mc.... Well, pending my receiving a philosophical answer to the reason for this from the Gurus, would someone tell me PRACTICALLY, how they judge the disposition of Mn & Mc in charts, given the above. Do they stick to the rules, as is, & treat Mn & Mc to be malefic in a substantially large number of charts? And all this, is only ref their NATURAL disposition of course. One thing I do understand from Visti's mail below (pl correct me if I am wrong), that Mc is such a weak malefic, that even if judged malefic by the above standards, while it may be malefic for the houses it occupies/ rules/ planetary-aspects, it does NOT make other planets that it conjoins/ aspects, malefic. Regards Nandan Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti, Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------------ Dear Krishna, I've tried to answer your questions. Is exalted Mercury with Saturn always a malefic? Is there any exception to the rule when Prasara says that Mercury becomes a malefic if conjunct with a malefic? Visti: Mercury is easily swayed by others. Mercury is a young student learning which paths to take in life. In truth Mercury is an inocent boy, but then someone influences him, and will color his life and actions. Mercury will not be able to afflict any planet. Actually he is a benefic, but not very strong and easily pursuaded. So Mercury with the Moon, who is his true father, will make him excert the flirtatious and dirty qualities which led to his birth. Mercury luckily was taken in by Brihaspati, and taught the propper ways. Mercury Exalted and with Saturn, will make a very determined person and very direct and strict. Will follow orders, and be very straight-forward, maybe even wicked. The statements you’ve made above for Mercury seems rather contrary and befits the dualistic nature of Gemini. With Mercury exalted in an Earthy sign, will Mother Earth/Virgo naturally nurture Mercury’s wanton ways? Or will Bhoomi naturally guide Mercury the correct path/Dharma? How can Mercury become wicked when he is neutral to Saturn, the 7th lord and that Saturn of both 6th and 7th does not encroach on his space in the 2nd house as Saturn is friends with Mercury. Naturally, in the house of passion, this person’s passionate speech will be somewhat contained; not necessarily lacking fore thought before speech that is, considering Mercury is always almost too close to Sun. No? Further, will the cache come through one’s spouse/Darakaraka with this placement? Or will A2 and A7 give the more comprehensive details? I can imagine the wisdom one begets through one’s spouse/Darakaraka with Jupiter being the 5th lord. Will this person become the wise jyotish [we all aspire to be] as exalted Mercury looks at the 8th of the mystical house? Thanks, Swee Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Download exciting Logos, Picture Messages &; Ringtones for your mobile phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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