Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2002 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Zeljka, You asked very fine questions and you presented them nicely. Your case and question is the perfect example for stressing the need to blend many factors and not to look at them in isolation. I looked at your chart quickly and replying. In your case, the basic chart is strong, all bodily planets are in benefic sign. The 1st class benefic for your chart is Venus and it is in lagna and apsects the Mars and it is exalted in 5th house in Navamsa. Before checking anything we should study the basic nature or the platform of a chart. Here we have to consider the yogas and dhoshas involved. As you can see in the Middle east Asian countries, a lot of people live a luxurious life, no dasa change or transit affects their life. This is because of the basic foundation of the chart. You Jupiter dasa: As you mentioned, strength overrides the benefic. For example, if I want to implement whatever I feel right in my organisation, it is not allowed and I am forced to do adharmic activities, related to my profession. On the contrary, if I get some more power, I will act according to my wish. In any case, the natural quality is the dominating one. In your case, Jupiter is the lord of very important houses of 7th and 10th and he is exalted in rasi and placed in the 10th house in Navamsa in a friendly sign. Plus he is involved in gajakesari yoga in Navamsa. With this strong position, he should do a great benefit, but, he is doing little for you because of the slight malefic nature due to its functionality. In my case, it is different, he is not only functional malefic, he is in Maranakarakasthana and aspected by two malefics, from their maranakarakasthana. In addition he is in Sakata yoga by being placed in 12th from Moon. So, he becomes 1st class malefic. But, in spite of all these bad position, he kept me in a far better position in education, married life, children, properties etc., The fact is if he was in a good position, I would have been in the top of the world. I had all such opportunities. I was pulled down to you very low position, with less money (Jup, lord of 2nd and 11th house). So, we have to look at the magnitude of the yoga and dohsha in this way. Similarly, your Mars, he is in a benefic sign, conjoined a benefic and aspected by the 1st class benefic. He is week in shadbala and in Navamsa, so his malefic nature gets reduced. Still his malefic nature augmented in its own Budhi. Moreover, he is placed in Chandra Mangal yoga in a kendra. Thanks Solai Kannan zzeljka [zzeljka] 21 January 2002 12:05 PM sjvc [sjvc] Re: Natural vs functional Namaste Dear Solai, With regards to natural and functional nature of grahas, i have some questions in my mind. I'm Mithuna lagna, therefore Guru is a functional malefic. Since he is 2nd bhava, there is no neecha on Kendrahipastya Dosha. I'm currently running Gu mahadasha (Gu-Sa), but since i've entered Gu mahadasha, nothing malefic happened to me (yet), on the contrary: my activity in spirituality enhanced enormously - i've started to study jyotish, to meditate, to do my Sadhana regularly - i met my partner (future husband) who is also very spiritual, my material status also improved a great deal, i got a house i'm currently living in. The situation in my company is not very great, but i don't work extremely hard, nor do i have an extremely bad salary - i do very well with my collegues and associates at work. Do Guru's great avasthas nullify its functional malevolence (uccha in 5 vargas) or is there something else i don't see? I notice much more suffering during Budh bhuktis, and Budh is lagnesh and vargottama. Second thing: my AK is Mangal. Being a natural malefic, he lords 6th and 11th bhava, so he becomes the first grade malefic. Plus he is retrograde in the 4th bhava. During Mangal mahadasha i excelled in school and in sports and in music - practically in everything i did at that time. It is true that at the beginning of Mangal mahadasha my parents divorced (Mangal being in the 4th bhava), but i cannot recollect any bigger evil during that time. I have always been physically healthy, i've never had any bigger injury or accident. Why is that? I wandered whether it is because of Chandra - being in dik bala in 4th bhava and being Mangal's nakshatra dispositor and Guru's bhava dispositor - or because of the 4th lord Budh being lagnesh (yet in 12th bhava)? Thanks very much for the reply. My birth data: May 20th 1967, 6:15 am, Cakovec, Croatia (no summer time) TZ +1, 46N23, 16E26 Lagna 6:15:25 Mithuna Jai Guru Dev zeljka -- Besplatni e-mail - http://webmail.iskon.hr/ Your use of is subject to --\ ------------------------------ Please note the new International Hospital of Bahrain email address. It is changed from username to username Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites