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You can wear a Neelam, blue Sapphire, in silver ring on middle

finger. The benefits will be both in career and health.

 

But, test the neelam before wearing it by tying it in a blue cloth

on your upper arm for a week. Neelam is a very powerfull gem and even

individual neelams may vary in their effects.

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

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Saturday, 14 January, 2006 05:14

Re: Consultation on gemstone please...

 

 

> Humble apologies!

>

>

>

> >

> > Dear Gurujee

> >

> > Hari om !

> >

> > I would like to have a consultation from gemmologists on suitable

> > gemstone for me.Which stone I should wear ?Why? and what effects

> it

> > will have if I wear it?

> >

> >

> >

> > My Birth Details are

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > My best regards,

> >

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The weight of the stone, or the carats,

depend upon the individual's horoscope, the body weight of the wearer and

the quality of the stone.

 

I cannot pin-point any reliable source which is available at all

places. The neighbourhood jeweller can not be trusted here because of the

proliferation of synthetic gems from china and taiwan in the market.

 

Going for a well established and famous jeweller is a safe option,

but there the overhead costs are almost equal to the stone's cost. If you

can afford their prices, contact them.

 

It also depends on your place of residence. The problem with Neelam

is that it is to be tested before wearing it. Suppose, you order a neelam

from some other city or country and it does not suit you well, you will try

to return it and there the problem arises. So, with neelam, a trusted source

who will take back the gem, should be found.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Saturday, 14 January, 2006 13:32

Re: Consultation on gemstone please...

 

 

Dear Mr.Ashutosh,

 

Can you suggest good source to get it and how many ct. would do for

me ??

 

regards,

 

>

> You can wear a Neelam, blue Sapphire, in silver ring on

middle

> finger. The benefits will be both in career and health.

>

> But, test the neelam before wearing it by tying it in a

blue cloth

> on your upper arm for a week. Neelam is a very powerfull gem and

even

> individual neelams may vary in their effects.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

> -

> Re: Consultation on gemstone please...

>

>

> > Humble apologies!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Gurujee

> > >

> > > Hari om !

> > >

> > > I would like to have a consultation from gemmologists on

suitable

> > > gemstone for me.Which stone I should wear ?Why? and what

effects

> > it

> > > will have if I wear it?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > My Birth Details are

> > >

> > >

> >

 

 

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Dear Kishore,

 

Give the details and also the reasons why you think

that a neelam should work well with him.

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

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"kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09

<valist>

Saturday, 14 January, 2006 11:43

Re: Consultation on gemstone please...

 

 

> dear ashutosh,

>

> a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has mars in sixth(exaltation)

> he is suffering from pains in his legs and hips from long ago.

>

> His sun is in debil, along with saturn(neecha bhanga?).

>

> I am suggesting neelam for his pains to reduce. My opinion is he

> should avoid coral.please advise.

>

> I will post his full details if required.

>

>

> Kishore patnaik

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kishore,

 

As far as I know, saturn is the most maelfic planet

for leo lagna and the leo natives should not wear

neelam. The best stone for leo natives is ruby.

Sometimes, yellow sapphire and Red Coral (or Emerald)

is also prescribed along with ruby.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

 

 

--- astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh

wrote:

 

> Dear Kishore,

>

> Give the details and also

> the reasons why you think

> that a neelam should work well with him.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

> -

> "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09

> <valist>

> Saturday, 14 January, 2006 11:43

> Re: Consultation on gemstone please...

>

>

> > dear ashutosh,

> >

> > a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has mars

> in sixth(exaltation)

> > he is suffering from pains in his legs and hips

> from long ago.

> >

> > His sun is in debil, along with saturn(neecha

> bhanga?).

> >

> > I am suggesting neelam for his pains to reduce.

> My opinion is he

> > should avoid coral.please advise.

> >

> > I will post his full details if required.

> >

> >

> > Kishore patnaik

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > :

>

> >

> >

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Emerald)> is also prescribed along with ruby.> > Regards,> > Neeraj> > > ---

astrologerashutosh > wrote:> > > Dear Kishore,> > > > Give the details and

also> > the reasons why you think> > that a neelam should work well with him.>

> > > Regards,> > > > Ashutosh> > > > > > > > -> >

"kishore mohan" > > > > Saturday, 14 January, 2006 11:43> >

Re: Consultation on gemstone> please...> > > > > > > dear

ashutosh,> > >> > > a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has mars> > in

sixth(exaltation)> > > he is suffering from pains in his

legs and hips> > from long ago.> > >> > > His sun is in debil, along with

saturn(neecha> > bhanga?).> > >> > > I am suggesting neelam for his pains to

reduce.> > > My opinion is he> > > should avoid coral.please advise.> > >> > >

I will post his full details if required.> > >> > >> > > Kishore patnaik> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > > :> >

> > >

http://www.goravani.com> > >

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I want to post a detailed note on this but I am not finding time.

 

Please wait till the weekend.

 

Meanwhile, the learned members may post on this.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

valist, pdk kotak <ganeshji101> wrote:

>

> I noticed that u do not advice person with leo langa for Neelam -

> but some how or the other i had the same adviced recently - my

birth details are as follows: DOB 18=aug-1931/ POB Karachi / TOB 08:

00 AM

> what is yr advice - at present I am passing through Ketu maha

Dasha -

> time is hard - u are the expert so u can judge also. I shall be

very much thankful to u if u kindly look more deeply if u have a

time and advice regards pdk

>

> "J.K. Sethi" <ubefortunate> wrote:

>

>

> --- Neeraj Gupta wrote:

>

> > Hi Kishore,

> >

> > As far as I know, saturn is the most maelfic planet

> > for leo lagna and the leo natives should not wear

> > neelam. The best stone for leo natives is ruby.

> > Sometimes, yellow sapphire and Red Coral (or

> > Emerald)

> > is also prescribed along with ruby.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> >

> >

> > --- astrologerashutosh

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Kishore,

> > >

> > > Give the details and also

> > > the reasons why you think

> > > that a neelam should work well with him.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ashutosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "kishore mohan"

> > > To:

> > > Saturday, 14 January, 2006 11:43

> > > Re: Consultation on gemstone

> > please...

> > >

> > >

> > > > dear ashutosh,

> > > >

> > > > a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has mars

> > > in sixth(exaltation)

> > > > he is suffering from pains in his legs and hips

> > > from long ago.

> > > >

> > > > His sun is in debil, along with saturn(neecha

> > > bhanga?).

> > > >

> > > > I am suggesting neelam for his pains to reduce.

> >

> > > My opinion is he

> > > > should avoid coral.please advise.

> > > >

> > > > I will post his full details if required.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kishore patnaik

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > :

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi,

 

Venus is combusted in your chart and placed in 12th

house. You are currently running ketu dasha.

 

Things will get better in sep, 06. Your jupiter is

exalted. Wear Ruby and Yellow Sapphire in gold. I

also recommend that you worship lord ganesha daily to

minimize the trouble.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

 

--- pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote:

 

> I noticed that u do not advice person with leo langa

> for Neelam -

> but some how or the other i had the same adviced

> recently - my birth details are as follows: DOB

> 18=aug-1931/ POB Karachi / TOB 08: 00 AM

> what is yr advice - at present I am passing

> through Ketu maha Dasha -

> time is hard - u are the expert so u can judge

> also. I shall be very much thankful to u if u

> kindly look more deeply if u have a time and advice

> regards pdk

>

> "J.K. Sethi" <ubefortunate wrote:

>

>

> --- Neeraj Gupta wrote:

>

> > Hi Kishore,

> >

> > As far as I know, saturn is the most maelfic

> planet

> > for leo lagna and the leo natives should not wear

> > neelam. The best stone for leo natives is ruby.

> > Sometimes, yellow sapphire and Red Coral (or

> > Emerald)

> > is also prescribed along with ruby.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> >

> >

> > --- astrologerashutosh

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Kishore,

> > >

> > > Give the details and also

> > > the reasons why you think

> > > that a neelam should work well with him.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ashutosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "kishore mohan"

> > > To:

> > > Saturday, 14 January, 2006 11:43

> > > Re: Consultation on gemstone

> > please...

> > >

> > >

> > > > dear ashutosh,

> > > >

> > > > a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has

> mars

> > > in sixth(exaltation)

> > > > he is suffering from pains in his legs and

> hips

> > > from long ago.

> > > >

> > > > His sun is in debil, along with saturn(neecha

> > > bhanga?).

> > > >

> > > > I am suggesting neelam for his pains to

> reduce.

> >

> > > My opinion is he

> > > > should avoid coral.please advise.

> > > >

> > > > I will post his full details if required.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kishore patnaik

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > :

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear friends,

 

The details of my colleague is as below:

 

 

male, 21st October, 1954,(4 am) sholapur, India

 

I am aware that Neelam is not generally prescribed for the simple

reason that Saturn is an adhipatya papi.

 

He is a natural malefic owning a Kendra and hence, he turns a

benefic. But then, he is also owning the sixth house first. Hence, he

remains malefic for Leo.

 

Saturn for Leo is not only a malefic but in general is a cannibal of

Mars,. who is a RYK for leo.(for eg., if mars is aspecting 7th,

saturn aspecting mars will cancel the delay of marriage. If mars is

RYk, a strong saturn stalls the ry in his dasa/bhukti> this generally

happens for aries, cancer and leo)

 

so, there are two reasons why you should not prescribe neelam for leo

asc. one, that saturn is an adhipatya papi and that any effort to

strengthen saturn will weaken mars and thus, the good results that

mars can give will be stalled.

 

 

Now coming to the individual's horoscope, let us see how mars and

saturn are behaving.

 

Mars is in exalation in saturn's house and currently, Kuja maha dasa

is on. On the other hand, Saturn is also in exaltation, along with

Sun (and mercury) ,in 3rd giving the neech bhang to sun.

 

Thus, both mars and saturn are sufficiently strong. Saturn also does

not behave as a malefic(ref saravali) since it is in exaltation.

 

similiarly, the mars which is in exaltation and should fully give you

good results. But unfortunately, this is also the sixth house. and

Mars in sixth house will give you body pains, surgeries or accidents.

 

In the case of the native, the very benefic is giving the least of

the troubles- ie pains.

 

The reason for these pains is not saturn, since it is not due to any

disease. Hence, the mars, otherwise a benefic, should be moderated to

some extent, especially so in view of the age of the person. (Career

RY is less importatant than health at this juncture)

 

The best way to curtail mars is to wear neelam, as saturn though

malefic for the lagna does not give any bad effects as it is with Sun

and is in exaltation.

 

If at all, it gives any effects other than decreasing the pains, it

will be good only and I think this will lead to political success of

the person.

 

Hope mr ashutosh will agree with me. If my explanation is not clear,

please do not hesitate to pose any questions.

 

Of course, prescribing a coral may be more traditional, esp since

the Kuja dasa is going on and the ashraya of the asc lord is kuja.(ie

sun is in the star of the Kuja)

 

Kishore patnaik

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

wrote:

>

> Hi Kishore,

>

> As far as I know, saturn is the most maelfic planet

> for leo lagna and the leo natives should not wear

> neelam. The best stone for leo natives is ruby.

> Sometimes, yellow sapphire and Red Coral (or Emerald)

> is also prescribed along with ruby.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

>

> --- astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh>

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Kishore,

> >

> > Give the details and also

> > the reasons why you think

> > that a neelam should work well with him.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09@g...>

> > <valist>

> > Saturday, 14 January, 2006 11:43

> > Re: Consultation on gemstone please...

> >

> >

> > > dear ashutosh,

> > >

> > > a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has mars

> > in sixth(exaltation)

> > > he is suffering from pains in his legs and hips

> > from long ago.

> > >

> > > His sun is in debil, along with saturn(neecha

> > bhanga?).

> > >

> > > I am suggesting neelam for his pains to reduce.

> > My opinion is he

> > > should avoid coral.please advise.

> > >

> > > I will post his full details if required.

> > >

> > >

> > > Kishore patnaik

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > :

> >

> > >

> > >

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Dear friends,

 

The details of my colleague is as below:

 

 

male, 21st October, 1954,(4 am) sholapur, India

 

I am aware that Neelam is not generally prescribed for the simple

reason that Saturn is an adhipatya papi.

 

He is a natural malefic owning a Kendra and hence, he turns a

benefic. But then, he is also owning the sixth house first. Hence, he

remains malefic for Leo.

 

Saturn for Leo is not only a malefic but in general is a cannibal of

Mars,. who is a RYK for leo.(for eg., if mars is aspecting 7th,

saturn aspecting mars will cancel the delay of marriage. If mars is

RYk, a strong saturn stalls the ry in his dasa/bhukti> this generally

happens for aries, cancer and leo)

 

so, there are two reasons why you should not prescribe neelam for leo

asc. one, that saturn is an adhipatya papi and that any effort to

strengthen saturn will weaken mars and thus, the good results that

mars can give will be stalled.

 

 

Now coming to the individual's horoscope, let us see how mars and

saturn are behaving.

 

Mars is in exalation in saturn's house and currently, Kuja maha dasa

is on. On the other hand, Saturn is also in exaltation, along with

Sun (and mercury) ,in 3rd giving the neech bhang to sun.

 

Thus, both mars and saturn are sufficiently strong. Saturn also does

not behave as a malefic(ref saravali) since it is in exaltation.

 

similiarly, the mars which is in exaltation and should fully give you

good results. But unfortunately, this is also the sixth house. and

Mars in sixth house will give you body pains, surgeries or accidents.

 

In the case of the native, the very benefic is giving the least of

the troubles- ie pains.

 

The reason for these pains is not saturn, since it is not due to any

disease. Hence, the mars, otherwise a benefic, should be moderated to

some extent, especially so in view of the age of the person. (Career

RY is less importatant than health at this juncture)

 

The best way to curtail mars is to wear neelam, as saturn though

malefic for the lagna does not give any bad effects as it is with Sun

and is in exaltation.

 

If at all, it gives any effects other than decreasing the pains, it

will be good only and I think this will lead to political success of

the person.

 

Hope mr ashutosh will agree with me. If my explanation is not clear,

please do not hesitate to pose any questions.

 

Of course, prescribing a coral may be more traditional, esp since

the Kuja dasa is going on and the ashraya of the asc lord is kuja.(ie

sun is in the star of the Kuja)

 

Kishore patnaik

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

wrote:

>

> Hi Kishore,

>

> As far as I know, saturn is the most maelfic planet

> for leo lagna and the leo natives should not wear

> neelam. The best stone for leo natives is ruby.

> Sometimes, yellow sapphire and Red Coral (or Emerald)

> is also prescribed along with ruby.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

>

> --- astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh>

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Kishore,

> >

> > Give the details and also

> > the reasons why you think

> > that a neelam should work well with him.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09@g...>

> > <valist>

> > Saturday, 14 January, 2006 11:43

> > Re: Consultation on gemstone please...

> >

> >

> > > dear ashutosh,

> > >

> > > a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has mars

> > in sixth(exaltation)

> > > he is suffering from pains in his legs and hips

> > from long ago.

> > >

> > > His sun is in debil, along with saturn(neecha

> > bhanga?).

> > >

> > > I am suggesting neelam for his pains to reduce.

> > My opinion is he

> > > should avoid coral.please advise.

> > >

> > > I will post his full details if required.

> > >

> > >

> > > Kishore patnaik

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > :

> >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Kishore,

 

I hope that you have noticed that the ascendent is in the

last degree of leo and it will turn to virgo just three minutes later. Look at

the problem by considering virgo as an ascendent too.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

 

 

His health problems

-

"kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09 >

<valist>

Saturday, 21 January, 2006 18:07

Re: Consultation on gemstone please...

Dear friends,The details of my colleague is as below:male, 21st October, 1954,(4

am) sholapur, India I am aware that Neelam is not generally prescribed for the

simple reason that Saturn is an adhipatya papi. He is a natural malefic owning

a Kendra and hence, he turns a benefic. But then, he is also owning the sixth

house first. Hence, he remains malefic for Leo. Saturn for Leo is not only a

malefic but in general is a cannibal of Mars,. who is a RYK for leo.(for eg.,

if mars is aspecting 7th, saturn aspecting mars will cancel the delay of

marriage. If mars is RYk, a strong saturn stalls the ry in his dasa/bhukti>

this generally happens for aries, cancer and leo) so, there are two reasons why

you should not prescribe neelam for leo asc. one, that saturn is an adhipatya

papi and that any effort to strengthen saturn will weaken mars and thus, the

good results that mars can give will be stalled. Now coming to the individual's

horoscope, let us see how mars and saturn are behaving. Mars is in exalation in

saturn's house and currently, Kuja maha dasa is on. On the other hand, Saturn

is also in exaltation, along with Sun (and mercury) ,in 3rd giving the neech

bhang to sun. Thus, both mars and saturn are sufficiently strong. Saturn also

does not behave as a malefic(ref saravali) since it is in exaltation.

similiarly, the mars which is in exaltation and should fully give you good

results. But unfortunately, this is also the sixth house. and Mars in sixth

house will give you body pains, surgeries or accidents. In the case of the

native, the very benefic is giving the least of the troubles- ie pains. The

reason for these pains is not saturn, since it is not due to any disease.

Hence, the mars, otherwise a benefic, should be moderated to some extent,

especially so in view of the age of the person. (Career RY is less importatant

than health at this juncture) The best way to curtail mars is to wear neelam,

as saturn though malefic for the lagna does not give any bad effects as it is

with Sun and is in exaltation. If at all, it gives any effects other than

decreasing the pains, it will be good only and I think this will lead to

political success of the person. Hope mr ashutosh will agree with me. If my

explanation is not clear, please do not hesitate to pose any questions. Of

course, prescribing a coral may be more traditional, esp since the Kuja dasa

is going on and the ashraya of the asc lord is kuja.(ie sun is in the star of

the Kuja) Kishore patnaik valist, Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:>> Hi Kishore,> > As far as I know, saturn is

the most maelfic planet> for leo lagna and the leo natives should not wear>

neelam. The best stone for leo natives is ruby. > Sometimes, yellow sapphire

and Red Coral (or Emerald)> is also prescribed along with ruby.> > Regards,> >

Neeraj> > > --- astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh>> wrote:> > > Dear

Kishore,> > > > Give the details and also> > the

reasons why you think> > that a neelam should work well with him.> > > >

Regards,> > > > Ashutosh> > > > > > > > -> >

"kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09@g...>> > <valist>> >

Saturday, 14 January, 2006 11:43> > Re: Consultation on

gemstone please...> > > > > > > dear ashutosh,> > >> > > a colleague of mine

whose lagna is leo has mars> > in sixth(exaltation)> > > he is suffering from

pains in his legs and hips> > from long ago.> > >> > > His sun is in debil,

along with saturn(neecha> > bhanga?).> > >> > > I am suggesting neelam for his

pains to reduce. > > My opinion is he> > > should avoid coral.please advise.> >

>> > > I will post his full details if required.> > >> > >> > > Kishore

patnaik> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > :> >

> > >

http://www.goravani.com> > >

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  • 2 weeks later...

anybody go for a gem /lazy waay/ first? I would suggest that your friend see

ayurvedic practitioner and an experienced astrologer, if he wants one. I

don't think it's responsible way to give 'prescription' this way, neither would

I accept to give suggestion based on mere 'impression'. Nobody should do this.

Best wishes, Anna kishore mohan <kishorepatnaik09 > wrote: dear

ashutosh,a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has mars in sixth(exaltation)

he is suffering from pains in his legs and hips from long ago. His sun is in

debil, along with saturn(neecha bhanga?). I am suggesting neelam for his pains

to reduce. My opinion is he should avoid coral.please advise. I will post his

full

details if required.Kishore patnaik :

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mr know all,

 

i guess you better read my mails with shraddha before quickly

jumping to nonsensical conclusions. please dont reply this mail i

have no time or mind to listen to your nonsense.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

 

valist, "A.R." <bonamente108> wrote:

>

> Dear Kishore,

> At least one thing we could see here- affliction of Sun/Sun

conj.? Sa/- in 3rd- but we do not know the context.

> Why Neelam? /Jellow Sapphire/ It is expensive, and not

an "universal cure"

> for sure- pls. see position of Ju, navamsa, AL, current dashas and

transit- have you noticed that Mars is YK for Leo Lagna? AND

badhakesh, as well!

> BM is not excluded either /badhakesh in 6th H/, so in any event

prayer and warding off the negative energy is in order.

> Doctor should determine the source of pain, we can only guess

here that Sun affliction has something to do with that- so many

factors should be taken into consideration, particularly when health

issues are concerned-

> little knowledge, it's been said is more dangerous than NO

KNOWLEDGE at all! -

> one should avoid 'prescribing' gems/remedies if not

educated/experienced enough.

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> Besides, why should anybody go for a gem /lazy waay/ first?

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> I would suggest that your friend see ayurvedic practitioner

> and an experienced astrologer, if he wants one. I don't think

it's responsible way to give 'prescription' this way, neither would I

accept to give suggestion based on mere 'impression'. Nobody should

do this.

>

> Best wishes,

> Anna

>

> kishore mohan <kishorepatnaik09@g...> wrote:

> dear ashutosh,

>

> a colleague of mine whose lagna is leo has mars in sixth

(exaltation)

> he is suffering from pains in his legs and hips from long ago.

>

> His sun is in debil, along with saturn(neecha bhanga?).

>

> I am suggesting neelam for his pains to reduce. My opinion is he

> should avoid coral.please advise.

>

> I will post his full details if required.

>

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> Kishore patnaik

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Dear Guruji,

 

Date of birth :17th Nov 1970

Time of Birth : 12:15pm bangalore

Place of Birth : Bangalore

Gender : Female

 

Iam having a miserable life since past 20 yrs .I have 2 broken marriage behind me .I was holding a good position in a software company , lost my job a year back .. and struggling for one very badly .My current sitution is making my family members torture me a lot .Do I have a hope in life ... my life is very miserable .I am wearing a blue sapphire , white sapphire , gomed , cats eye and a ruby .Please help me .

 

Regards

Seema

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