Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Dear Members. A test for a combination from nadi, Mars is a significator for expressing Maleness in the male charts. Ketu is lord of liberation. Moon is lord of deception as well as of mind. ( All is beautiful , is a deception to the Jiva , and this is lured by Maya to the Jiva through Moon /mind) So Mars + Ketu + Moon ; that is Mars and ketu in one house with Moon or 7th to moon or moon in adjoining houses or vice versa . Mars + Moon in one house with ketu in trine or in adjoining houses , same effects. results: either the person is a bachelor or even if married then too he is a bachelor , a type of Sanyas Yoga ; not Sanyasi in the true sense. If any body has this yoga , please email privately , let me see how this combination is shaping you. Those who don't bother may post directly on the list. regards, Inder Jit Sahni House No. 1351-HIG, Model Town, Phase-1, Bhatinda-151001 Pb.<India>hanskpvedic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Dear Inder Jit I have noticed in my practice that Mars with Ketu in a man's chart often has this quality. I have not noticed the Moon as part of it. Most of my clients are women. When they approach me with the chart of a man they are dating and he has Mars with Ketu I am immediately alerted. I do not assume that it is insurrmountable, but the man must be very aware of his tendency and consciously choose not to be a bachelor. One attractive woman in her mid 30's has a young son by a Mars Ketu man in his early 60's. He supports them in a nice home, but he is unwilling to commit to her. He loves to wine and dine other women. Another man had been married for 27 years. He could not get over what he felt he missed in being married. When he contacted me he had separated from his wife to "explore his sexuality." This was not the first time he had done this. He gave me his wife's data insisting that they were soul mates and she would accept this. Her chart revealed that she was entering a time when commitment was important to her. I warned him he might lose her and he simply would not believe it. She later divorced him and he is now exploring. Venus with Ketu is also curious. The person often follows his or her heart in and out of relationships. I like to say that Ketu is the soul's contract and often makes not sense to the outside world. That does not make it easy on either partner. BTW I have not found Ketu with Mars to be that difficult with women. I have seen Rahu with Venus difficult. They can never really see their beauty and see the flaws instead. c - Inder Jit Sahni hanskpvedic Cc: gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 7:58 AM [GJ] Bachelor Dear Members. A test for a combination from nadi, Mars is a significator for expressing Maleness in the male charts. Ketu is lord of liberation. Moon is lord of deception as well as of mind. ( All is beautiful , is a deception to the Jiva , and this is lured by Maya to the Jiva through Moon /mind) So Mars + Ketu + Moon ; that is Mars and ketu in one house with Moon or 7th to moon or moon in adjoining houses or vice versa . Mars + Moon in one house with ketu in trine or in adjoining houses , same effects. results: either the person is a bachelor or even if married then too he is a bachelor , a type of Sanyas Yoga ; not Sanyasi in the true sense. If any body has this yoga , please email privately , let me see how this combination is shaping you. Those who don't bother may post directly on the list. regards, Inder Jit Sahni House No. 1351-HIG, Model Town, Phase-1, Bhatinda-151001 Pb.<India>hanskpvedicOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Dear Cynthia, You cite the below observations for Male charts - can we surmise that in a Female chart if Rahu afflicts Mars that they (women with this combination) see flaws in Men? e.g. the same way that Rahu afflicting Venus in a Male chart makes men see flaws in women? Sateesh. ======== - cynthia novak gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 2:37 PM Re: [GJ] Bachelor BTW I have not found Ketu with Mars to be that difficult with women. I have seen Rahu with Venus difficult. They can never really see their beauty and see the flaws instead. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Can anybody answer my questions? [Pavan Vemuri] On the same note: A friend of mine has his chart as follows. Both Rahu and Ketu are away from the most effective points of houses. And they are alone in the houses mentioned below. How would a Debilitated Rahu in Scorpio in 4th house and a Debilitated Ketu in 10th house act? Say here Rahu is in Leo navamsa and Ketu is in Aquarius navamsa. He always complains of his bad luck that when ever he's about to achieve something some unexpected event happens and he loses to grab the result of his entire work. On spiritual front he says he's succeeding but materially he's toally drenched in debt, neck deep.[Pavan Vemuri] I was reading thru the stuff on Vargottama and Avasthas of planets. As of Vargottama principle, a planet within the first 3.33 degrees of a moveable sign and a planet within the last 3.33 degrees of a Dual sign is in Vargottama - a planet capable to do very good almost equal to having it in its own sign. As of Avastha principle, a planet above mentioned is in its state of infancy or in oldage respectively and the positive effects of both these conditions are negligible. Aren't both these principles contradicting? Can you clear my doubts regarding both the above theories? Hare Krishna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Dear Cynthia, I noticed it just now. Das has this combination. Moon + Ketu in 11th with Mars in adjoining house . Venus in next house give it another dimension. Being a personal matter of Das i will not discuss . But the yoga is there in Das chart. And note , it does not matter that , native is male or female. In the case of female , the Husband or the partner will express his male ness towards that female in such a way , that it is more like a Sanayasi. ( not in the true sense, this i am mentioning again) regards, Inder Jit Sahni cynthia novak gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 7:07 PM Re: [GJ] Bachelor Dear Inder Jit I have noticed in my practice that Mars with Ketu in a man's chart often has this quality. I have not noticed the Moon as part of it. Most of my clients are women. When they approach me with the chart of a man they are dating and he has Mars with Ketu I am immediately alerted. I do not assume that it is insurrmountable, but the man must be very aware of his tendency and consciously choose not to be a bachelor. One attractive woman in her mid 30's has a young son by a Mars Ketu man in his early 60's. He supports them in a nice home, but he is unwilling to commit to her. He loves to wine and dine other women. Another man had been married for 27 years. He could not get over what he felt he missed in being married. When he contacted me he had separated from his wife to "explore his sexuality." This was not the first time he had done this. He gave me his wife's data insisting that they were soul mates and she would accept this. Her chart revealed that she was entering a time when commitment was important to her. I warned him he might lose her and he simply would not believe it. She later divorced him and he is now exploring. Venus with Ketu is also curious. The person often follows his or her heart in and out of relationships. I like to say that Ketu is the soul's contract and often makes not sense to the outside world. That does not make it easy on either partner. BTW I have not found Ketu with Mars to be that difficult with women. I have seen Rahu with Venus difficult. They can never really see their beauty and see the flaws instead. c - Inder Jit Sahni hanskpvedic Cc: gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 7:58 AM [GJ] Bachelor Dear Members. A test for a combination from nadi, Mars is a significator for expressing Maleness in the male charts. Ketu is lord of liberation. Moon is lord of deception as well as of mind. ( All is beautiful , is a deception to the Jiva , and this is lured by Maya to the Jiva through Moon /mind) So Mars + Ketu + Moon ; that is Mars and ketu in one house with Moon or 7th to moon or moon in adjoining houses or vice versa . Mars + Moon in one house with ketu in trine or in adjoining houses , same effects. results: either the person is a bachelor or even if married then too he is a bachelor , a type of Sanyas Yoga ; not Sanyasi in the true sense. If any body has this yoga , please email privately , let me see how this combination is shaping you. Those who don't bother may post directly on the list. regards, Inder Jit Sahni House No. 1351-HIG, Model Town, Phase-1, Bhatinda-151001 Pb.<India>hanskpvedic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Dear Sateesh My reference about Rahu with Venus was supposed to say that the women see flaws in their appearance. They often spend a lot of money on cosmetics and even those that are really beautiful have a difficult time seeing their own beauty. It was just an observation. I have not seen Rahu Mars being a problematic as Rahu Ketu in the charts of men or women. Women seem better at integrating Mars Ketu which seems to require a surrender in some way. Men seem to resist surrendering to the other partner more. I think that is just natural. I think that flaw-finding is most associated with Mars Saturn aspects (the internal struggle is turned outward) and Venus or Mars in Virgo. The Moon or Venus in Jyeshta is also pretty good at finding flaws. Here, the focus seems more on how the other person is not doing it right or according to the "rules" c Sateesh Batas gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 9:16 AM Re: [GJ] Bachelor Dear Cynthia, You cite the below observations for Male charts - can we surmise that in a Female chart if Rahu afflicts Mars that they (women with this combination) see flaws in Men? e.g. the same way that Rahu afflicting Venus in a Male chart makes men see flaws in women? Sateesh. ======== - cynthia novak gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 2:37 PM Re: [GJ] Bachelor BTW I have not found Ketu with Mars to be that difficult with women. I have seen Rahu with Venus difficult. They can never really see their beauty and see the flaws instead. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Nope, it should read Ketu Mars is the most difficult. Sorry brains are a little addled today. c - Sateesh Batas gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 12:19 PM Re: [GJ] Bachelor Dear Cynthia. Thanks for clarifying on this. One point below** - should that read "Rahu Venus" rather than Rahu Ketu? Sateesh. ======== - cynthia novak gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 5:45 PM Re: [GJ] Bachelor I have not seen Rahu Mars being a problematic as Rahu Ketu** in the charts of men or women. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Dear Cynthia. Thanks for clarifying on this. One point below** - should that read "Rahu Venus" rather than Rahu Ketu? Sateesh. ======== - cynthia novak gjlist Friday, October 18, 2002 5:45 PM Re: [GJ] Bachelor I have not seen Rahu Mars being a problematic as Rahu Ketu** in the charts of men or women. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2002 Report Share Posted October 22, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Inder, Mangal-Chandra conjunction is very bad for both mangal and chandra (inspite of Chandra-Mangala wealth giving Yoga), since Mangal Holds debilitation sign of Chandra, while Chandra holds debilitation sign of Mangal. Due to these factors, it is debilitating infleunce on all other factors apart wealth (Tasmin Ucha Neecha Shrimanath- debilitated grahas are good for wealth), a person may indeed remain in want of a partner. Ketu just futher aggriviates the matter, Ketu is indeed a bachalor graha, yet it signifies the Kula, or family when the children are born. So ketu in 7th house unless terribly afflicted will give the problem in the 3 first years of marriage or until the children are born. IF afflicted and chandra-mangal in trines from it a person may remain a bachelor. For such a condition in addition, shukra or 7th lord should be retrograde or in a special condition such as Atmakarak to give the suffering to the soul concerned. Of course Upapada the primary point for marriage/children should remain afflicted. In a short glance, I found a lady with chandra-mangal in 4th (vrisha lagna) while ketu in trine (8th), She is unmarraied in comparatively old age (39). Yet there is a whole lot of other factors to support it, Best wishes Zoran Inder Jit Sahni wrote: Dear Members.A test for a combination from nadi,Mars is a significator for expressing Maleness in the male charts.Ketu is lord of liberation.Moon is lord of deception as well as of mind.( All is beautiful , is a deception to the Jiva , and this is lured by Maya to the Jiva through Moon /mind) So Mars + Ketu + Moon ; that is Mars and ketu in one house with Moon or 7th to moon or moon in adjoining houses or vice versa .Mars + Moon in one house with ketu in trine or in adjoining houses , same effects. results: either the person is a bachelor or even if married then too he is a bachelor , a type of Sanyas Yoga ; not Sanyasi in the true sense. If any body has this yoga , please email privately , let me see how this combination is shaping you.Those who don't bother may post directly on the list.regards,Inder Jit Sahni House No. 1351-HIG, Model Town, Phase-1, Bhatinda-151001 Pb.<India> hanskpvedic Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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