What is Shakatyoga?

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Dear all,

 

I would like to know about SHAKATYOGA. I understood

about Shakatyoga is "Moon is in the 6th or 8th house

from Jupiter, it is called Shakatyoga".

I would like to know about the effect of

Shakatyoga.

Please help me to understand it better.

 

With best regards,

 

Rahul Patel

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Om Gurave Namah

--------------------------

Dear Rahul,

 

Jupiter placed in the 6,8 or 12 houses (Dusthana) from the Moon causes Sakat

yoga. Others say Moon placed in 6,8 or 12 from Jupiter causes this Yoga.

Either way use both. You can read the results as all sorts of problems and

impediments in their path.

 

Moon or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this Yoga resulting in MUKUTA

YOGA. These are the rare people who can turn adversities into opportunities

and succeed.

 

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

[Guest guest]

OM KRISHNA GURU

 

Namaskar Sanjay Prabhu,

I have this rare combination and know the results.

What remedies you recommend for this ? In VROA you have mentioned to draw

and fixed a yantra. Could you kindly give us detail explanation.

 

Hare Krshna

Karu

 

--

 

>Om Gurave Namah

>--------------------------

>Dear Rahul,

>

>Jupiter placed in the 6,8 or 12 houses (Dusthana) from the Moon causes

Sakat

>yoga. Others say Moon placed in 6,8 or 12 from Jupiter causes this Yoga.

>Either way use both. You can read the results as all sorts of problems and

>impediments in their path.

>

>Moon or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this Yoga resulting in MUKUTA

>YOGA. These are the rare people who can turn adversities into opportunities

>and succeed.

>

>Best Wishes

>Sanjay Rath

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay

That means Mukuta Yoga exists in two thirds of the cases that Sakata Yoga

exists . So how is this very rare ?

Namaste

Nicholas

>

> Moon or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this Yoga resulting in MUKUTA

> YOGA. These are the rare people who can turn adversities into

opportunities

> and succeed.

>

[Guest guest]

Well, that explains it for me! My horoscope has Jupiter 12th from

Moon, with Moon in kendra. Life's been full of daunting challenges, and yet,

whenever I've released myself from trying to manage the darkening chaos..and

have requested the creative Source to direct this life instead of me, the

resulting positive changes have astonished me, my family, and friends observing

the unfolding of these changes.

The hard part is to remember to get self out of the way...I'm tempted

to think "I can do it myself" but I really know better now. Sakat yoga gives

impediments while Mukuta offers the way out. These yogas explain the hardships

I've faced, and their disintegration into thin air whenever I've let the true

Captain steer this ship.

Many thanks for writing about these yogas, Sanjay.

Best wishes,

Carol Hook

In a message dated 10/30/2001 1:56:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, sanjayrath writes:

Jupiter placed in the 6,8 or 12 houses (Dusthana) from the Moon causes Sakat

yoga. Others say Moon placed in 6,8 or 12 from Jupiter causes this Yoga.

Either way use both. You can read the results as all sorts of problems and

impediments in their path.

Moon or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this Yoga resulting in MUKUTA

YOGA. These are the rare people who can turn adversities into opportunities

and succeed.

[Guest guest]

Dear Rahul,

 

Sakata -cart- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon, and Jupiter is

not in an angle.

"One born in Sakata Yoga will often become unfortunate, and then regain what

was once lost. He will be a very ordinary and insignificant man in the

world, who will inevitably attain mental grief and will be exceedingly

unhappy. Though he be of a royal family, he still becomes indigent and in

consequence of the trouble and fatigue falling to his lot, he is always

distressed and becomes an object of aversion to the king."

 

Sakata Yoga indicates that life will progress slowly. The mentality will be

easily disgruntled and though one will be hopeful, hope will not be long

lasting. There are a few conditions when Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the

Moon is not forming Sakata Yoga, these yogas are being given next.

 

Raja Yoga: Jupiter in 10th and the Moon in the 5th.

"One will conquer his senses, will perform penance and shine forth with

excellent royal marks giving way to a high status."

 

This yoga indicates a very imaginative and optimistic mentality and

spiritual mindedness.

 

Mukuta -crown- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon and Jupiter is

in own or exaltation rasi.

"One will wear a crown."

 

This yoga presents one with a crown, or it may indicate the inheritor of

some lineage. A Mukuta is a crescent shaped crown, the crescent implies some

knowledge of the mysteries of life and thus this yoga generally indicates

some strong spiritual tendencies.

 

 

Take Care,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic astrology.net

Kala Occult Publications

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 10/30/2001 1:56:12 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> sanjayrath writes:

>

> > Jupiter placed in the 6,8 or 12 houses (Dusthana)

> from the Moon causes Sakat

> > yoga. Others say Moon placed in 6,8 or 12 from

> Jupiter causes this Yoga.

> > Either way use both. You can read the results as

> all sorts of problems and

> > impediments in their path.

> >

> > Moon or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this

> Yoga resulting in MUKUTA

> > YOGA. These are the rare people who can turn

> adversities into opportunities

> > and succeed.

>

 

Dear Sanjay,

 

A question: Will the Sakata yoga be broken if Moon or

Jupiter is in a Trikona?

 

Thanks,

NDS

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Respected teachers,

 

Thank you so much for helping me to understand

SHAKATYOGA. SHAKATYOGA is in my JANAMKUNDLI, that is

why I would like to know what precautions have to be

taken for reducing the effect of SHAKATYOGA.

Again, thanks to all.

 

Best Regards,

 

Rahul Patel

 

 

 

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Nicholas,

 

Nice question. To understand the working of the Yogas, we need to accept that

the Horoscope is a "DYNAMIC PHENOMENA" and that the birth chart is but one of

the tools. In the given case, both Sakata and Mukuta will exist in one-third of

the charts having the Sakata Yoga. Now, the question arising is whether WE have

the strength to break the Sakata or the mere placement of Jupiter or Moon in

Kendra to lagna is adequate to do this.

 

This was answered in my younger days as follows: Look at Arjuna the one who

could never be defeated and see him in his childhood, later before and after

the Gita Gyana and finally after Krishna left this planet. Was Arjuna's

strength the same through out? If not, then what is it that makes him strong or

weak? Is it his own prowess? We know that Arjuna is Indra Putra ar the child of

Indra (Jupiter) and hence the strong Jupiter gave him Bhagavan Bhakti and this

alone resulted in the breaking of all the Sakata and finally the

Mukuta..(Figuratively speaking).

 

There must be a way to determine the varying strength of planets after birth

from the birth chart...this is what we need to know, or do we know this and

cannot see it because He is not willing to tell..

Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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Nicholas

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Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:40 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

Dear SanjayThat means Mukuta Yoga exists in two thirds of the cases that Sakata

Yogaexists . So how is this very rare ?NamasteNicholas>> Moon or Jupiter in

Kendra to Lagna breaks this Yoga resulting in MUKUTA> YOGA. These are the rare

people who can turn adversities intoopportunities> and succeed.>Om Namo

Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Karu,

That explanation about the Mukuta yantra for Krishna (Vrajendra i.e Lord of Vraj

or Vrindavan) is the best Upaya. I have given all the details in Vedic Remedies

and the rest you can learn from your nearby Krishna temple priest.Best

RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

-

karu

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Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:16 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

OM KRISHNA GURUNamaskar Sanjay Prabhu,I have this rare combination and know the

results.What remedies you recommend for this ? In VROA you have mentioned to

drawand fixed a yantra. Could you kindly give us detail explanation.Hare

KrshnaKaru-->Om Gurave

Namah>-------------------------->Dear

Rahul,>>Jupiter placed in the 6,8 or 12 houses (Dusthana) from the Moon

causesSakat>yoga. Others say Moon placed in 6,8 or 12 from Jupiter causes this

Yoga.>Either way use both. You can read the results as all sorts of problems

and>impediments in their path.>>Moon or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this

Yoga resulting in MUKUTA>YOGA. These are the rare people who can turn

adversities into opportunities>and succeed.>>Best Wishes>Sanjay Rath>Om Namo

Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Nomadeva Sharma,

No, Sakata Yoga cannot be broken if the planets concerned are in trikona from

lagna. Some people have also extended (relaxed) the rules for the Panch

Mahapurusha Yoga as being formed by placement of planets in trines in own signs

or exaltation, but this is incorrect. Not only must we ensure that the planets

are in Kendra, THEY MUST NOT BE RETROGRADE. We find the classic example in the

chart of Sri Ram.Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

- Nomadeva Sharma

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Thursday, November 01, 2001 7:06 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

> In a message dated 10/30/2001 1:56:12 PM Eastern> Standard Time, >

sanjayrath writes:> > > Jupiter placed in the 6,8 or 12 houses

(Dusthana)> from the Moon causes Sakat> > yoga. Others say Moon placed in 6,8

or 12 from> Jupiter causes this Yoga.> > Either way use both. You can read the

results as> all sorts of problems and> > impediments in their path.> > > > Moon

or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this> Yoga resulting in MUKUTA> > YOGA.

These are the rare people who can turn> adversities into opportunities> > and

succeed.> Dear Sanjay,A question: Will the Sakata yoga be broken if Moon

orJupiter is in a

Trikona?Thanks,NDSDo You

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Ernst,

A brilliant reply indeed. You could also add another condition that Jupiter

should be strong in the Kendra (like being in own sign or exaltation without

being retrograde OR being debilitated but being retrograde -here the suffering

is tremendous but the strength coming from Rishikeshadeva is also as great).

Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

- Ernst Wilhelm

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Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:52 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

Dear Rahul,Sakata -cart- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon, and

Jupiter isnot in an angle."One born in Sakata Yoga will often become

unfortunate, and then regain whatwas once lost. He will be a very ordinary and

insignificant man in theworld, who will inevitably attain mental grief and will

be exceedinglyunhappy. Though he be of a royal family, he still becomes

indigent and inconsequence of the trouble and fatigue falling to his lot, he is

alwaysdistressed and becomes an object of aversion to the king."Sakata Yoga

indicates that life will progress slowly. The mentality will beeasily

disgruntled and though one will be hopeful, hope will not be longlasting. There

are a few conditions when Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from theMoon is not forming

Sakata Yoga, these yogas are being given next.Raja Yoga: Jupiter in 10th and

the Moon in the 5th."One will conquer his senses, will perform penance and

shine forth withexcellent royal marks giving way to a high status."This yoga

indicates a very imaginative and optimistic mentality andspiritual

mindedness.Mukuta -crown- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon and

Jupiter isin own or exaltation rasi."One will wear a crown."This yoga presents

one with a crown, or it may indicate the inheritor ofsome lineage. A Mukuta is

a crescent shaped crown, the crescent implies someknowledge of the mysteries of

life and thus this yoga generally indicatessome strong spiritual tendencies.Take

Care,Ernst Wilhelmwww.vedic astrology.netKala Occult PublicationsOm Namo

Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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is subject to

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Carol,

There is this fantastic prayer to Krishna that I sing for this Sakata Yoga.

 

Bhaje Vrajaika-mandanam samasta paapa khandanam

swa-bhakta-chitta ranjanam sa-daiva nanda-nandanam

su-pichcha-guchcha mastakam sunada venu hastakam

ananga-ranga sagaram namami Krishna nagaram

 

Note this somewhere in your diary..perhaps someday you will fell its need.

Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

- Carolhook (AT) aol (DOT) com

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Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:09 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

Dear Sanjay, Well, that explains it for me! My horoscope has

Jupiter 12th from Moon, with Moon in kendra. Life's been full of daunting

challenges, and yet, whenever I've released myself from trying to manage the

darkening chaos..and have requested the creative Source to direct this life

instead of me, the resulting positive changes have astonished me, my family,

and friends observing the unfolding of these changes. The hard part is

to remember to get self out of the way...I'm tempted to think "I can do it

myself" but I really know better now. Sakat yoga gives impediments while

Mukuta offers the way out. These yogas explain the hardships I've faced, and

their disintegration into thin air whenever I've let the true Captain steer

this ship. Many thanks for writing about these yogas, Sanjay.

Best wishes, Carol Hook In a message dated 10/30/2001 1:56:12 PM

Eastern Standard Time, sanjayrath writes:

Jupiter placed in the 6,8 or 12 houses (Dusthana) from the Moon causes Sakat

yoga. Others say Moon placed in 6,8 or 12 from Jupiter causes this Yoga. Either

way use both. You can read the results as all sorts of problems and impediments

in their path. Moon or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this Yoga resulting in

MUKUTA YOGA. These are the rare people who can turn adversities into

opportunities and succeed.Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat

Sat:

gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of

is subject to the

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Dear Sanjay,

 

What a beautiful-sounding prayer you sent--greatly appreciated. This

prayer has such a calming, soft lilt to it when said out loud. Even if not

all syllables are correctly pronounced due to novice attempt to say it...it's

quite beautiful. I will save this in print and keep it close with me.

 

Would you or anyone else have an approximate english translation for

this peace-giving prayer, and I would love to know its author.

 

Blessings to you and to all on our list!

 

Carol

 

 

In a message dated 11/3/2001 5:38:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sanjayrath writes:

 

<< Bhaje Vrajaika-mandanam samasta paapa khandanam

swa-bhakta-chitta ranjanam sa-daiva nanda-nandanam

su-pichcha-guchcha mastakam sunada venu hastakam

ananga-ranga sagaram namami Krishna nagaram

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay,

thank you for your feedback.

 

"You could also add another condition that Jupiter should be strong in the

Kendra (like being in own sign or exaltation without being retrograde OR being

debilitated but being retrograde "

 

I know that it is generally accepted that a planet in exaltation and being

retrograde is considered blemished. However, in the calculation of the IShta

and Kashta, a planet that is closest to the Earth, during which it is in its

retrograde motion, gains greater Chestha Bala, which increases the planets

Ishta, (quantified capacity for good, for those not familier with Ishta and

Kashta). A planet in deep exaltation also gains great Ishta, therefore I have

my doubts about the idea that planets in Exaltation and being Retrograde are

blemished, rather I think they are highly capable of producing good.

 

The horsocope of John Travolta comes to my mind as an example, who has Saturn

retrograde in the 4th in Libra. Saturn bukti from Sep 1994-July 1997 was

favoralbe for him.

 

Any thoughts on that relative to the IShta and Kashta?

 

Best Regards,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic astrology.net

 

 

 

-

Sanjay Rath

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Friday, November 02, 2001 7:56 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Ernst,

A brilliant reply indeed. You could also add another condition that Jupiter

should be strong in the Kendra (like being in own sign or exaltation without

being retrograde OR being debilitated but being retrograde -here the suffering

is tremendous but the strength coming from Rishikeshadeva is also as great).

Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

- Ernst Wilhelm

gjlist

Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:52 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

Dear Rahul,Sakata -cart- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon, and

Jupiter isnot in an angle."One born in Sakata Yoga will often become

unfortunate, and then regain whatwas once lost. He will be a very ordinary and

insignificant man in theworld, who will inevitably attain mental grief and will

be exceedinglyunhappy. Though he be of a royal family, he still becomes

indigent and inconsequence of the trouble and fatigue falling to his lot, he is

alwaysdistressed and becomes an object of aversion to the king."Sakata Yoga

indicates that life will progress slowly. The mentality will beeasily

disgruntled and though one will be hopeful, hope will not be longlasting. There

are a few conditions when Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from theMoon is not forming

Sakata Yoga, these yogas are being given next.Raja Yoga: Jupiter in 10th and

the Moon in the 5th."One will conquer his senses, will perform penance and

shine forth withexcellent royal marks giving way to a high status."This yoga

indicates a very imaginative and optimistic mentality andspiritual

mindedness.Mukuta -crown- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon and

Jupiter isin own or exaltation rasi."One will wear a crown."This yoga presents

one with a crown, or it may indicate the inheritor ofsome lineage. A Mukuta is

a crescent shaped crown, the crescent implies someknowledge of the mysteries of

life and thus this yoga generally indicatessome strong spiritual tendencies.Take

Care,Ernst Wilhelmwww.vedic astrology.netKala Occult PublicationsOm Namo

Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Nomadeva!

 

Just some small addition on retrogression.

 

The nature of retrograde planets are...

1. They give quite opposite results than the results they are supposed to give

(because of their reverse apparent motion).

2. They would act as if they are placed in the 7th from the house they are actually placed.

 

If there is a mahapurusha yoga, what happens if the yogakaraka planet is in

retrogression. They would show that the person will face a lots of problem

(reverse to the actual results- point 1) and the yogakaraka if placed in

exaltation will give results as if it is placed in its debilitation sign...

hence bad (point 2). If placed in the own house, then also, it will goto the

7th from it, which is not a comfortable position for it.

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

 

-

Sanjay Rath

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Friday, November 02, 2001 9:22 PM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Nomadeva Sharma,

No, Sakata Yoga cannot be broken if the planets concerned are in trikona from

lagna. Some people have also extended (relaxed) the rules for the Panch

Mahapurusha Yoga as being formed by placement of planets in trines in own signs

or exaltation, but this is incorrect. Not only must we ensure that the planets

are in Kendra, THEY MUST NOT BE RETROGRADE. We find the classic example in the

chart of Sri Ram.Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

- Nomadeva Sharma

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Thursday, November 01, 2001 7:06 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

> In a message dated 10/30/2001 1:56:12 PM Eastern> Standard Time, >

sanjayrath writes:> > > Jupiter placed in the 6,8 or 12 houses

(Dusthana)> from the Moon causes Sakat> > yoga. Others say Moon placed in 6,8

or 12 from> Jupiter causes this Yoga.> > Either way use both. You can read the

results as> all sorts of problems and> > impediments in their path.> > > > Moon

or Jupiter in Kendra to Lagna breaks this> Yoga resulting in MUKUTA> > YOGA.

These are the rare people who can turn> adversities into opportunities> > and

succeed.> Dear Sanjay,A question: Will the Sakata yoga be broken if Moon

orJupiter is in a

Trikona?Thanks,NDSDo You

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Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH

Dear Ernst,

A very good point about that Ista and Kashta Phala and Chesta Bala.

When a planet is retrograde it attains extra rays (dictum states 'is

full of rays') and is capable of tremendous exertion. Why would someone make

such a tremendous exertion or effort without a desire for some objective?

Thus the retrograde planet indicates a strong desire from the previous birth

and hence the person does make a tremendous desire to achieve the results

indicated by the planet. This effort is called CHESTA BALA. It indicates a

great drive for a specific achievement.

The calculations of Ista and Kashta Phala are based on various sources

of strength of which one is exaltation and another is retrogression. The

point is that in the calculation of the Ista and Kashtha Phala, these two

calculation criteria have been treated independantly. Thus if a planet is

exalted, irrespective of its motion it gets a large number of points and

similarly retrogression has a 'multiplier' to these points earned. Thus it

is evident that the Ishta and Kashta are an independant system of reckoning

the GOOD and BAD Karma that could accumulate during the period of a planet

and Phala is also a relative concept as to whether it is to be 'consumed' in

this birth or whether it shall accumulate for a higher goal has not been

specifically mentioned. So, this question is left open ended...

Now, come to the practical situation of Saturn retrograde in the fourth

in Libra. We have two cases one Bhagavan Sri Rama with saturn in Libra

taking Him to 14 years of exile during its Moola Dasa (refer

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/Lessons/moola_dasa.htm) and another case of

John Travolta where saturn gives him a great jump in its Bhukti. I really

cannot comment on Travolta's chart without seeing it. But then there is

something amiss out here as the reading is going against the principles of

Jyotish Shastra.

In any case Ernst, there is this sloka specifically given in Saravali/JP

about the exaltation and retrogression.

My Advise - NOTE: Both Bhagavan Sri Rama and John Travolta exhibited

tremendous Chesta Bala or the power to work hard for the achievement of an

objective and in both the cases the OBJECTIVE of the Chesta Bala was Venus

the dispositor of Saturn. whereas in the case of Rama Venus represented lost

wife, in the case of Travolta it was the dancing and entertainment industry.

Success came in both cases, but after the necessary chesta bala was shown.

Saturn delays the Ishta Phala but does not deny it. thus in the end Rama got

back Sita and Travolta must have got some recognition or a hit movie.

Placement of Venus from AL etc should be seen for this.

In both cases we cannot say that they got the results easily like an

exalted planet should give...with minimum Chesta and maximum Ishta phala. Dr

Raman's books are good for beginners to know about these terms, but you need

to learn their inner meaning from someone who knows. Each Bala has an inner

meaning and usage.

Best Regards

Sanjay Rath

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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"Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst

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Sunday, November 04, 2001 4:24 PM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

 

Dear Sanjay,

thank you for your feedback.

 

"You could also add another condition that Jupiter should be strong in the

Kendra (like being in own sign or exaltation without being retrograde OR

being debilitated but being retrograde "

 

I know that it is generally accepted that a planet in exaltation and being

retrograde is considered blemished. However, in the calculation of the IShta

and Kashta, a planet that is closest to the Earth, during which it is in its

retrograde motion, gains greater Chestha Bala, which increases the planets

Ishta, (quantified capacity for good, for those not familier with Ishta and

Kashta). A planet in deep exaltation also gains great Ishta, therefore I

have my doubts about the idea that planets in Exaltation and being

Retrograde are blemished, rather I think they are highly capable of

producing good.

 

The horsocope of John Travolta comes to my mind as an example, who has

Saturn retrograde in the 4th in Libra. Saturn bukti from Sep 1994-July 1997

was favoralbe for him.

 

Any thoughts on that relative to the IShta and Kashta?

 

Best Regards,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic astrology.net

 

 

 

-

Sanjay Rath

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Friday, November 02, 2001 7:56 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

 

 

OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH

Dear Ernst,

A brilliant reply indeed. You could also add another condition that

Jupiter should be strong in the Kendra (like being in own sign or exaltation

without being retrograde OR being debilitated but being retrograde -here the

suffering is tremendous but the strength coming from Rishikeshadeva is also

as great).

Best Regards

Sanjay Rath

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

-

Ernst Wilhelm

gjlist

Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:52 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

 

Dear Rahul,

 

Sakata -cart- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon, and Jupiter

is

not in an angle.

"One born in Sakata Yoga will often become unfortunate, and then regain

what

was once lost. He will be a very ordinary and insignificant man in the

world, who will inevitably attain mental grief and will be exceedingly

unhappy. Though he be of a royal family, he still becomes indigent and in

consequence of the trouble and fatigue falling to his lot, he is always

distressed and becomes an object of aversion to the king."

 

Sakata Yoga indicates that life will progress slowly. The mentality will

be

easily disgruntled and though one will be hopeful, hope will not be long

lasting. There are a few conditions when Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from

the

Moon is not forming Sakata Yoga, these yogas are being given next.

 

Raja Yoga: Jupiter in 10th and the Moon in the 5th.

"One will conquer his senses, will perform penance and shine forth with

excellent royal marks giving way to a high status."

 

This yoga indicates a very imaginative and optimistic mentality and

spiritual mindedness.

 

Mukuta -crown- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon and Jupiter

is

in own or exaltation rasi.

"One will wear a crown."

 

This yoga presents one with a crown, or it may indicate the inheritor of

some lineage. A Mukuta is a crescent shaped crown, the crescent implies

some

knowledge of the mysteries of life and thus this yoga generally indicates

some strong spiritual tendencies.

 

 

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Dear Sarajit

What is your source for these two contentions ?

Could you also clarify point one .Do you mean that if Saturn is in Libra in the

4th retrograde you take all the effects of Saturn exalted in Libra in the 4th

and expect the opposite .

Nicholas

Just some small addition on retrogression.

 

The nature of retrograde planets are...

1. They give quite opposite results than the results they are supposed to give

(because of their reverse apparent motion).

2. They would act as if they are placed in the 7th from the house they are actually placed.

 

If there is a mahapurusha yoga, what happens if the yogakaraka planet is in

retrogression. They would show that the person will face a lots of problem

(reverse to the actual results- point 1) and the yogakaraka if placed in

exaltation will give results as if it is placed in its debilitation sign...

hence bad (point 2). If placed in the own house, then also, it will goto the

7th from it, which is not a comfortable position for it.

 

Regards

Sarajit

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Om Namah Shivaya!

 

Sarajit,

 

You have given an interesting twist to this discussion. As per one of the

books I read a long time ago( sorry, donot remember which one), the Retro

planet is to be considered as quartered in two houses - the house where it

is deposited and the 12th from that hse. I can only confirm what you have

suggested in point 1 based on a recent experience. However, the other view

is that an exalted retrograde planet behaves like a debilitated planet and

vice versa. This is in line with what you have suggested in point 2 , I

guess.

 

Moving away from the topic of retrogression and looking at mahapurusha yogas

in isolation, I have very interesting comments to make. I have seen a person

with Ruchaka in 10th with Aquarius Asc doing a low key job. Of late, he has

lost his job as well at the age of 45. I have come across similar structure

in a housewife's case. So is the case with Hamsa yoga. Are the mahapurusha

yogas given a bit more importance than they deserve, in the classic

astrology? Definitely, they are pillars of strength but in conjunction with

the strength of the Asc lord, I opine. Needless to say, the yoga causing

planet need to be in a kendra, as Sanjay Rath has already mentioned. Any

views?

 

Coming to the other issue of Sakata yoga, Jup in 6 or 8 from Moon causes a

suyoga - Chandradhi yoga ( as it aspects 12 or 2) and while in 12th gives

Anapha. But they are not as strong as Gajakesari with direct aspect of Jup

on Moon, which gives very good reasoning power.

Is Sakata a real cause for concern, I am not sure.

 

What do the esteemed readers think about the lesser known Chandala yoga

which is caused due to Jup coming under the influence of two or more

malefics. What affects can be expected when Jup is conjunct Ketu? Does it

lead to spiritual tendencies?

 

Regards ..... Prashanth

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Dear Sanjay,

 

I have have had good results using the IShta and Kashta phala as

indicated in BPHS and Sri Pati, though I prefer the ishta and kashta

calculation as given in BPHS rather then that given in Sri Pati. THe Ishta

and Kashta are modified by the Subha and Asubhapankas and by the Shadbala to

quantify HOW MUCH good or bad a planet can give. If the planet is indicating

good results through yogas etc., then the good portion is used to determine

how much good, if the planet is indicating bad, the bad portion is used to

determine how much bad. Ishta and kashta, etc are strengths used to quantify

the results, ie, how much.

 

As you must be well aware of, the classics are full of contradictions when

it comes to retrograde planets. The only general agreement is that a planet

is in Shakta avastha when retrograde, and the only scientific basis we have

for studying them is the Cheshta bala and Ishta and Kashta, if a close study

is made of these things it becomes apparent that it makes no sense that a

planet in exaltation and retrograde is bad. Due to the fact that a planet

high in Cheshta will be in the SHakta avashta the planet is also powerful,

in the case of Saturn, the native will have be able to exert powerful

effort.

 

In Sri Rams horoscope Saturn is the 7th lord, and therefore represents SIta,

and as every one knows, Saturn gives hardship, and effort to reach success

especially Sasa Yoga, and this has nothing to do with the retrograde factor.

In Travolta's horoscope Saturn is the dispositor of Venus and Mercury,

planets of Dancing and Acting respectively.

 

In regards to the Ishta and Kashta, if a planet is exalted, and with the

least Cheshta bala, it will have only 1/2 measure of Ishta and one half

measure of Kashta, it is only when a planet is retrograde and in deep

exaltation that it can have a full measure of Ishta. If a planet is

debilitated and retrograde it will have 1/2 measure of Ishta and 1/2 measure

of Kashta, which makes it pretty good, thus forming a case of Neechabhanga.

 

I know a fellow astrologer with Jupiter in Cancer, retrograde, in the lagna.

Jupiter as 9th lord makes her the favorite of her well to do father, as well

as making it easy for her to be an astrologer, which she has practiced since

the age of 23 or so, very young for a westerner to get involved in such a

science.

 

 

Best Regards,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic astrology.net

Kala Vedic Astrology Software & Kala Occult Publishers

 

 

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Monday, November 05, 2001 8:23 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

 

>

> OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH

> Dear Ernst,

> A very good point about that Ista and Kashta Phala and Chesta Bala.

> When a planet is retrograde it attains extra rays (dictum states 'is

> full of rays') and is capable of tremendous exertion. Why would someone

make

> such a tremendous exertion or effort without a desire for some objective?

> Thus the retrograde planet indicates a strong desire from the previous

birth

> and hence the person does make a tremendous desire to achieve the results

> indicated by the planet. This effort is called CHESTA BALA. It indicates a

> great drive for a specific achievement.

> The calculations of Ista and Kashta Phala are based on various sources

> of strength of which one is exaltation and another is retrogression. The

> point is that in the calculation of the Ista and Kashtha Phala, these two

> calculation criteria have been treated independantly. Thus if a planet is

> exalted, irrespective of its motion it gets a large number of points and

> similarly retrogression has a 'multiplier' to these points earned. Thus it

> is evident that the Ishta and Kashta are an independant system of

reckoning

> the GOOD and BAD Karma that could accumulate during the period of a planet

> and Phala is also a relative concept as to whether it is to be 'consumed'

in

> this birth or whether it shall accumulate for a higher goal has not been

> specifically mentioned. So, this question is left open ended...

> Now, come to the practical situation of Saturn retrograde in the

fourth

> in Libra. We have two cases one Bhagavan Sri Rama with saturn in Libra

> taking Him to 14 years of exile during its Moola Dasa (refer

> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/Lessons/moola_dasa.htm) and another case of

> John Travolta where saturn gives him a great jump in its Bhukti. I really

> cannot comment on Travolta's chart without seeing it. But then there is

> something amiss out here as the reading is going against the principles of

> Jyotish Shastra.

> In any case Ernst, there is this sloka specifically given in

Saravali/JP

> about the exaltation and retrogression.

> My Advise - NOTE: Both Bhagavan Sri Rama and John Travolta exhibited

> tremendous Chesta Bala or the power to work hard for the achievement of an

> objective and in both the cases the OBJECTIVE of the Chesta Bala was Venus

> the dispositor of Saturn. whereas in the case of Rama Venus represented

lost

> wife, in the case of Travolta it was the dancing and entertainment

industry.

> Success came in both cases, but after the necessary chesta bala was shown.

> Saturn delays the Ishta Phala but does not deny it. thus in the end Rama

got

> back Sita and Travolta must have got some recognition or a hit movie.

> Placement of Venus from AL etc should be seen for this.

> In both cases we cannot say that they got the results easily like an

> exalted planet should give...with minimum Chesta and maximum Ishta phala.

Dr

> Raman's books are good for beginners to know about these terms, but you

need

> to learn their inner meaning from someone who knows. Each Bala has an

inner

> meaning and usage.

> Best Regards

> Sanjay Rath

> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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> "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst

> <gjlist>

> Sunday, November 04, 2001 4:24 PM

> Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

>

>

> Dear Sanjay,

> thank you for your feedback.

>

> "You could also add another condition that Jupiter should be strong in the

> Kendra (like being in own sign or exaltation without being retrograde OR

> being debilitated but being retrograde "

>

> I know that it is generally accepted that a planet in exaltation and being

> retrograde is considered blemished. However, in the calculation of the

IShta

> and Kashta, a planet that is closest to the Earth, during which it is in

its

> retrograde motion, gains greater Chestha Bala, which increases the planets

> Ishta, (quantified capacity for good, for those not familier with Ishta

and

> Kashta). A planet in deep exaltation also gains great Ishta, therefore I

> have my doubts about the idea that planets in Exaltation and being

> Retrograde are blemished, rather I think they are highly capable of

> producing good.

>

> The horsocope of John Travolta comes to my mind as an example, who has

> Saturn retrograde in the 4th in Libra. Saturn bukti from Sep 1994-July

1997

> was favoralbe for him.

>

> Any thoughts on that relative to the IShta and Kashta?

>

> Best Regards,

> Ernst Wilhelm

> www.vedic astrology.net

>

>

>

> -

> Sanjay Rath

> gjlist

> Friday, November 02, 2001 7:56 AM

> Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

>

>

>

> OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH

> Dear Ernst,

> A brilliant reply indeed. You could also add another condition that

> Jupiter should be strong in the Kendra (like being in own sign or

exaltation

> without being retrograde OR being debilitated but being retrograde -here

the

> suffering is tremendous but the strength coming from Rishikeshadeva is

also

> as great).

> Best Regards

> Sanjay Rath

> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> -

> Ernst Wilhelm

> gjlist

> Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:52 AM

> Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

>

>

> Dear Rahul,

>

> Sakata -cart- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon, and Jupiter

> is

> not in an angle.

> "One born in Sakata Yoga will often become unfortunate, and then regain

> what

> was once lost. He will be a very ordinary and insignificant man in the

> world, who will inevitably attain mental grief and will be exceedingly

> unhappy. Though he be of a royal family, he still becomes indigent and

in

> consequence of the trouble and fatigue falling to his lot, he is always

> distressed and becomes an object of aversion to the king."

>

> Sakata Yoga indicates that life will progress slowly. The mentality will

> be

> easily disgruntled and though one will be hopeful, hope will not be long

> lasting. There are a few conditions when Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from

> the

> Moon is not forming Sakata Yoga, these yogas are being given next.

>

> Raja Yoga: Jupiter in 10th and the Moon in the 5th.

> "One will conquer his senses, will perform penance and shine forth with

> excellent royal marks giving way to a high status."

>

> This yoga indicates a very imaginative and optimistic mentality and

> spiritual mindedness.

>

> Mukuta -crown- Yoga: Jupiter in the 6th or 8th from the Moon and Jupiter

> is

> in own or exaltation rasi.

> "One will wear a crown."

>

> This yoga presents one with a crown, or it may indicate the inheritor of

> some lineage. A Mukuta is a crescent shaped crown, the crescent implies

> some

> knowledge of the mysteries of life and thus this yoga generally

indicates

> some strong spiritual tendencies.

>

>

> Take Care,

> Ernst Wilhelm

> www.vedic astrology.net

> Kala Occult Publications

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Dear Nicholas!

 

The contentions are based on the the understanding the meaning of retrogression.

When a planet moves in a forward direction, it gives the result as it supposed

to give. However, when its motion is apparently reversed, the planet starts

behaving in quite an opposite manner compared to its nature. Hence a malefic

planet tend to lose its maleficence and try to give beneficial result.

Something like a thief returning the money, he had stolen from a person's

house, after having sympathy on him. However, this is not expected from the

nature of the thief.

 

The same way, a benefic will tend to lose it beneficence and try to give

inauspicious results. Such as Guru, who always take care of his disciple, gets

angry on him and stop helping him.

 

Extending the same logic, we know that the house oposing a particular house,

indicate opposite results. Hence when a retrograde planet is placed in a house,

it would give the results as if it is placed in the 7th of its own place. Hence

debilitated retrograde planet will tend to give results as if it is exalted.

 

In the case you gave, Saturn retrograde and debilitated in 4th, libra will give

good results pertaining to 10th house. Here the rasi and navamsa dispositor of

the 10th lord should be well placed though. We can't analyse a chart

disjointly. However, this might take a lot of effort as Saturn is the planet of

persistence and hardwork. Retrogression itself shows fruits of action after lots

of hardship...

 

I don't have any classical reference for the same, but I believe them to be

correct as they are given by Guru. I found them quite accurate in delineating

an horoscope.

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

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Tuesday, November 06, 2001 12:40 AM

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

Dear Sarajit

What is your source for these two contentions ?

Could you also clarify point one .Do you mean that if Saturn is in Libra in the

4th retrograde you take all the effects of Saturn exalted in Libra in the 4th

and expect the opposite .

Nicholas

Just some small addition on retrogression.

 

The nature of retrograde planets are...

1. They give quite opposite results than the results they are supposed to give

(because of their reverse apparent motion).

2. They would act as if they are placed in the 7th from the house they are actually placed.

 

If there is a mahapurusha yoga, what happens if the yogakaraka planet is in

retrogression. They would show that the person will face a lots of problem

(reverse to the actual results- point 1) and the yogakaraka if placed in

exaltation will give results as if it is placed in its debilitation sign...

hence bad (point 2). If placed in the own house, then also, it will goto the

7th from it, which is not a comfortable position for it.

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

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Dear Prashanth,

yes, you will often find persons with Mahapurushas not doing so well in

life. The Mahapurusha yogas give strong character tendencies that help set

up a foundation for success. BUt the dasas of yoga producing planets have to

be running in order for there to be success. You can look at it like someone

with a talent or skill but with no real oppurtunities for benefitting from

them. Also, it is the culmination of a planet forming several good yogas,

and not just one, that leads to notable success.

 

In regards to Jupiter in 6th or 8th from Moon, sure, if Mercury and Venus

are also in 6th, 7th and 8th there is the Chandradi yoga. In that event it

would no longer be Sakata Yoga, but only Chandradi Yoga. ANd yes Jupiter in

12th from moon is causing Lunar yoga and I don't find it being a noticable

defect in the horoscope, I give the results of the Lunar yoga to this

position rather than the Sakata Yoga. So I really only consider Sakata Yoga

when Jupiter is in 6th or 8th from Moon.

 

Here is a bit on the character effects of JUpiter joining Ketu from my book

Vault of the Heavens:

 

Ketu/Jupiter

The influence of Ketu on Jupiter indicates a native with some deeper

spiritual attachments, ideals, or devotion. Living a life of ideals,

spirituality, etc. in the past incarnations has resulted in the ego

experiencing a heightened degree of security in the world. Ketu’s job as

liberator is to now free the ego from any attachment to living a life of

ideals. This almost always results in these native at some point in life

finding themselves in some circumstance that prevents them from living out

their idealistic nature. This generally creates guilt, self-blame, and

self-criticism that may be fed by the blame and criticism of others as well.

These events serve to free the native from any attachments to doing good,

which otherwise could impair one’s spiritual growth. The conjunction to

Jupiter appears significantly more powerful in this respect.

The influence of Ketu on Jupiter indicating the native having attempted

to gain security in recent past lives due to their belief system may also

create a huge need to see their beliefs manifested fully in this life. This

need is never met, which causes the native to doubt their beliefs. This

creates room fore the native to advance their understanding, though they are

generally not inclined to advance their understanding until circumstances

force them to.

Ketu, though a malefic, is beneficial for the spiritual life, thus

Jupiter influenced by Ketu also tends to deepen one’s insight, knowledge,

and spiritual devotion and generally indicates a spiritual or philosophical

person of some sort.

 

 

Best Regards,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic astrology.net

Kala Vedic Astrology Software & Kala Occult Publishers

 

 

 

 

> which is caused due to Jup coming under the influence of two or more

> malefics. What affects can be expected when Jup is conjunct Ketu? Does it

> lead to spiritual tendencies?

>

> Regards ..... Prashanth

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Dear Ernst,

 

Thanks for the clarifications on Mahapurusha yoga.

I am giving here my horoscope which has very strong Ruchaka alongside a

plethora of other yogas. I donot intend to make use of this forum to get a

personal reading but am quite keen to understand why the yogas are not

fructifying. I must say that I am having a very good life but the question

is, is it in line with the strength of the horoscope.

Major Yogas present… Ruchaka by un-afflicted Vargothama Asc Lord ,

Gajakesari, Lakshmi yoga and Srinatha yoga ( from the Moon ), Rajayoga in

5th by conj of 9 and 10th Lords, Neechabanga Rajayoga by Sat in 6th,

Viparita Rajayoga by 12th Lord Ven in 6th without any benefic aspect,

Duradhara, Subhaupayachari yogas and Rajalakshana yoga.

The Rajayoga by the combination of political planets ( Sun and Moon ) should

have taken me to dizzy heights ….Or , looking it the other way , will the

ensuing dasa of Sun do this ?

While it is observable that the Rahu is positioned closely to Sun and also

Jup is afflicted with Ketu , will it have the malefic potency to take away

all the pluses out of a plethora of yogas ? The other interesting factor is

the strength in dual direction - Materialism as well as Spiritualism

(affliction to 2nd, 12th and 4th ). Sometimes I am deeply spiritual,

spending 3-4 hrs a day in meditation and at times highly material! The 9th

lord Moon is in old age and is also Badhaka. What influence will that have

on overall scheme of things?

 

I have started suspecting whether the birth time has an error. I will be

highly thankful for time correction please. Important events ....

First Job: July 1990

Marriage: 25 April 1997

Baby boy's birth: 6 Aug 1999

 

 

 

Regards ..... Prashanth

 

 

 

 

Ernst Wilhelm [ernst]

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:13 PM

gjlist

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

 

Dear Prashanth,

yes, you will often find persons with Mahapurushas not doing so well in

life. The Mahapurusha yogas give strong character tendencies that help set

up a foundation for success. BUt the dasas of yoga producing planets have to

be running in order for there to be success. You can look at it like someone

with a talent or skill but with no real oppurtunities for benefitting from

them. Also, it is the culmination of a planet forming several good yogas,

and not just one, that leads to notable success.

prashanth achar

Mar 19,1969

Time: 11:55PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0

Belgaum

Longitude: 74E34 Latitude: 15N52

Lahiri Ayanamsa: 23:26 365.25 Day Year

Current Period: Ve/Ke/Ve

 

As 19:15 Sc Jyeshtha Me

Su 05:33 Pi U.Bhadra Sa

Mo 24:47 Pi Revati Me

Ma 15:43 Sc Anuradha Sa

Me 17:48 Aq Shatbisha Ra

JuR 07:59 Vi U.Phalguni Su

VeR 03:23 Ar Aswini Ke

Sa 01:25 Ar Aswini Ke

Ra 06:50 Pi U.Bhadra Sa

Ke 06:50 Vi U.Phalguni Su

 

Vimshottari Dashas

==================

Me Mar-19-1969

Ke Nov-13-1975

Ve Nov-13-1982

Su Nov-13-2002

Mo Nov-12-2008

Ma Nov-13-2018

Ra Nov-13-2025

Ju Nov-13-2043

Sa Nov-13-2059

 

Rashi Chart

*********************************************************

*SU 05:33 *SA 01:25 * * *

*RA 06:50 *VER03:23 * * *

*MO 24:47 * * * *

* * * * *

* * * * *

* * * * *

*********************************************************

*ME 17:48 * * *

* * * *

* * * *

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* * * *

* * * *

*************** ***************

* * * *

* * * *

* * * *

* * * *

* * * *

* * * *

*********************************************************

* *MA 15:43 * *KE 06:50 *

* *AS 19:15 * *JUR07:59 *

* * * * *

* * * * *

* * * * *

* * * * *

*********************************************************

 

Navamsa Chart

*********************************************************

* ME * SA * VER * *

* JUR * * * *

* KE * * * *

* * * * *

* * * * *

* * * * *

*********************************************************

* MO * * *

* * * *

* * * *

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*************** ***************

* * * SU *

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* AS * MA * * RA *

* * * * *

* * * * *

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*********************************************************

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant,

my apologies for the delay in repying. I just returned from Europe and

then went straight to the ACVA conference. THe Sun, Moon, and Jupiter are no

doubt forming a strong Raja Yoga. Rahu is also a yogakaraka by being in a

trine and joined with an angular lord. Venus is the 12th lord in the 6th,

but due to being with Saturn no real vipareet raja yoga is formed, therefore

the dasa of Venus will not be your best for success.

 

Rahu or Ketu in a dual rasi with an angular or trine lord gives success and

wealth in their dasas as well.

 

THe dasa of the SUn will be more successful then that of VEnus. SInce the

Sun is in Leo in the navamsa, which is the 6th from its natal position,

success will not come easily. But all of the Sun, Moon ,Mars and Rahu dasas

will be more successful.

 

The Moon is in the navamsa of Aquarius, the 12th from its natal posotion. So

you see how the navamsa positions of the SUn and Moon reduce the strength of

the yoga somewhat.

 

Best Regards,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic astrology.net

Kala Vedic Astrology Software & Kala Occult Publishers

 

 

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"Achar, Prashant" <Prashant.Achar

<gjlist>

Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:12 PM

RE: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

 

Dear Ernst,

 

Thanks for the clarifications on Mahapurusha yoga.

I am giving here my horoscope which has very strong Ruchaka alongside a

plethora of other yogas. I donot intend to make use of this forum to get a

personal reading but am quite keen to understand why the yogas are not

fructifying. I must say that I am having a very good life but the question

is, is it in line with the strength of the horoscope.

Major Yogas present… Ruchaka by un-afflicted Vargothama Asc Lord ,

Gajakesari, Lakshmi yoga and Srinatha yoga ( from the Moon ), Rajayoga in

5th by conj of 9 and 10th Lords, Neechabanga Rajayoga by Sat in 6th,

Viparita Rajayoga by 12th Lord Ven in 6th without any benefic aspect,

Duradhara, Subhaupayachari yogas and Rajalakshana yoga.

The Rajayoga by the combination of political planets ( Sun and Moon ) should

have taken me to dizzy heights ….Or , looking it the other way , will the

ensuing dasa of Sun do this ?

While it is observable that the Rahu is positioned closely to Sun and also

Jup is afflicted with Ketu , will it have the malefic potency to take away

all the pluses out of a plethora of yogas ? The other interesting factor is

the strength in dual direction - Materialism as well as Spiritualism

(affliction to 2nd, 12th and 4th ). Sometimes I am deeply spiritual,

spending 3-4 hrs a day in meditation and at times highly material! The 9th

lord Moon is in old age and is also Badhaka. What influence will that have

on overall scheme of things?

 

I have started suspecting whether the birth time has an error. I will be

highly thankful for time correction please. Important events ....

First Job: July 1990

Marriage: 25 April 1997

Baby boy's birth: 6 Aug 1999

 

 

 

Regards ..... Prashanth

 

 

 

 

Ernst Wilhelm [ernst]

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:13 PM

gjlist

Re: [GJ] What is Shakatyoga?

 

 

Dear Prashanth,

yes, you will often find persons with Mahapurushas not doing so well in

life. The Mahapurusha yogas give strong character tendencies that help set

up a foundation for success. BUt the dasas of yoga producing planets have to

be running in order for there to be success. You can look at it like someone

with a talent or skill but with no real oppurtunities for benefitting from

them. Also, it is the culmination of a planet forming several good yogas,

and not just one, that leads to notable success.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay,

 

 

> There must be a way to determine the varying strength of planets

>after birth from the birth chart...this is what we need to know, or

>do we know this and cannot see it because He is not willing to tell..

 

Even FREE WILL depends on the varying strength of planets after birth

from the birth chart. This is my guess. We cant say that we can

exercise FREEWILL Uniformly. Or Free Will is pre-destined? Again a

paradox.

 

Best Regards, Venkat