Guest guest Posted February 24, 2001 Report Share Posted February 24, 2001 Thank you for your reply. Yes, I missed the big discussion. Think I had not d yet, and only caught the end. I would like to be able to get into tho, and read them. (Gouravani, are you reaiding this? I can't seem to get in because I d through your web page and need a password to get in through . So what do I do?) Anyway, I find what you are saying interesting. One reason I asked about Sade-Sati is not only because I am going through it, though that certainly was a motivating factor, but also because I do not seem to be suffering. Coupled with the fact that I went through my greatest ever suffering around 91-95, and am at the tail end of it now, with much the negatives unwinding, the positives, going upward. And it has been pushing upward and positive WHILE I have been in going though Sade-Sati. I have all ready been through the 12th house and currently am in the first, with one more to go, and it appears to be working for my benefit. I have not done my own chart yet, well, haven't updated it and havne't done it thoroughly - though I have done it. Anyway, my current transit is with Jupiter (usually a malefic for me but seems to be working nicely now too) in the first and Saturn in the first, but there is that Sade-Sati, yet it does not seem to be hurting anything. Maybe it too, as with you, is be because for my rising, it is a benefic. And in my general Rasi chart, it is a benefic. I have been, for the first time in most of my adult life, able to make money at a job, all-be-it, an unorthodox job, but I never did fit in with mainstream materialism. It all seems to be too good to be true, and that is why I ask about Sade-Sati. Am wondering if it is going to zap me when I'm not looking, or when I dont know where to look. It is good to be reminded though, that Sani likes service. I do like to serve. In a way, my job is service. I also have a disease, but oddly enough, it is getting better during Sade-Sati. Even, I have heard of a possible cure, which I have just started trying. So once again, I wonder why, and of course am thankful, but wonder when it is going to sneak in and zap me in that way as well. It is very possible that my dad may pass away though, at this time. Thank you for the lovely words of Lord Krishna, Who I do not know how I was able to come in contact with knowedge of, but am eternally thankful, repeatedly, and even that is not enough. Never enough. Thank you. Sincerely, Yogini > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! > > Namaste dear sister!!! > > there is a lot of stuff posted on this site relevant to Sade > Sati...there was a fairly long discussion of it a while ago...around > the one you were referred to....i too, had written a statement about > Sade Sati in the same area...in which i stated that it depends a lot > upon just what kind of relationship you have established with > Saturn...if you are a worldly type you can expect some trouble.....and > even if not, still Sade Sati is the time when teachings are > delivered...try not to see it as "bad"...or "good"....it is just > Prasad....the gift of Grace from the Divine...if we have the right > attitude, we will see that whatever is coming to us is God's loving > gift to us...including all the horrible things....we have to wonder > why...but also we have to see how they are all parts of the School > program in which we are enrolled by taking birth here on Earth... > > in my own case, my dad passed away during a combo of my sade sati, his > sade sati, and my son's sade sati...mine was just beginning, my son's > was almost over, and my dad's was just in the middle....however, he > had been diagnosed with cancer and given only 6 months, 7 years before > he passed away....so in reality even tho he had that > diagnosis...Saturn had the good timing to choose a date in which three > sade satis would be combining....what a set-up!! > > on the other hand a lot of blessings flowed thru sade sati too, as > Saturn is my "friend", and as well is Atmakaraka, and > lagnesha..(capricorn lagna)....i changed careers...(although the > leaving of one was painful, and humiliating...(more saturnian > humour)....and as soon as i chose SERVICE as a job, everything just > changed around, and life began to be co-operative again....Sani LOVES > service....(i'm still working in that job...although Sani continues to > train me thru restriction, and constriction.....even tho i am NOT in > Sade Sati, Sani IS directly aspecting my Sun right now, and my 11 th > house.... > > > So whether you see Sade Sati as bad or good, is more a question of > your attitude than any objective qualities....although if you have a > lagna which is in a sign unfriendly to Sani, you will probably have > some more intense challenges served up...but the way i see it, is that > each of those challenges is the Gift of the Divine Mother, bestowed > upon us to remind us Who's REALLY in charge, and affording us the > possibility of connecting meaningfully with Her.....if we see all of > life as Guru's Prasad...or God's Prasad....then what will be the worry > about a "difficult" sade sati....the more difficult in a way, the > better, as those difficulties are merely God's way of both getting > your attention, and burning up karmas..... > > i suppose one could be like that devotee of Krsna who prayed to Him > for unceasing difficulties, because she realised that those > difficulties were in fact helping her to connect more lovingly with > Her Lord Krsna, and that those difficulties were in fact ESSENTIAL if > one wanted to merge with the Lord....as there is no room for Krsna in > one's heart if one's mind is on the girlfriend or the job......so > painful teachings are given, strictly in accordance with the laws of > karma....and only as necessary, to soften up that hard rock of a > heart...to open up the doors and let the light of God to enter > within.....if one were to ask the iron bar how it felt while being > heated in the furnace, and then hammered mercilessly into shape by > the smith, until it has assumed a rare and wonderful form, most > beautiful to behold....we are the red-hot iron, and the Divine Mother > is not about to stop beating on us until we have been molded into the > shape that She would like us to be in....and, really, we shouldn't > even ask Her to make it any easier,as it will just put off those > karmas til later..... > > hope this has been of some help..... > > In the Divine Mother's love > and in Her Service > > as ever, > Your own self > > visvanathan > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:03:04 -0800 > Das Goravani <> > Delusion or Surrender? > > > Spyrikal wrote: > > > | Hi, thank you for posting that Dasanudas, your quote was very helpful, > | sad though, I wonder how you'd know whether or not you're deluding > | yourself. > > > > Ah, very good. Honesty is good. > > Yes, excellent point. There are many instances in Spiritual Seeking > where we come to the wall of not knowing with our senses and intellect > whether to proceed we must blindly accept, delude ourselves, accept > fairy tales like Bhagavat Purana somtimes seems to be, etc. Very > difficult for the rational mind to proceed at some points. > > As Einstein said "When we reach the Zenith of our empirical mountain, we > find the religionist waiting for us patiently" (something like that). > > Empiricism fails at a certain point, certainly in matters which are > beyond scientific study, such as "Why does everything exist at all", > "What is the real meaning or purpose of life", "Is there a God or a > Divine will or consciousness" etc etc... > > I am one who has pondered all these things my whole life. Religion is > rather a focus of my life. > > Very often we have to accept the statements of scripture on faith alone. > There is no other way to cross check them. How we are going to deal with > "Revelation" is a personal quandry each of us must face. Either we have > the ability to infer their conclusions as real, or we don't, and either > we end up accepting them a little, a lot, not at all, etc., each of us > individually, and our reality is thus affected. > > I think the bravery to go deeply into seeing Divine Truth is something > that is difficult. It takes a lot of bravery to accept the spiritual > view, and realize that there is only God, there is only Krishna etc., > and that we are servants. > > I personally am built in a funny sort of extreme way. I have not much > interest in "light" pleasures of life, like picnics, movies, hobbies, > etc., but I love the intense pleasures, like drugs, smoking, sex, etc. > These of course can literally kill you, and they do decrease life quite > quickly, so they have to be avoided, but for those of us no interested > in any other pleasures much, they are all that is left. > > So then you take up spiritual life as a solution, and it's an intense > solution. To think of oneself as servant and slowly but deliberately > dismantle your selfish ego is difficult work. > > But as one moves along that path, accepting that God knows the truth, > has revealed it, and that it makes sense, the Vedic version of reality > including the Yugas etc., is one of the easier parts, whereas > controlling one senses humbly in the service of the Lord is one of the > more difficult matters. > > I think it's clear that revelation has alot of reality in it. It may > seem like delusion at times, but really we can infer alot of it as true > when we look around, especially seeing things like Jyotish at work, it > becomes clear to me at least, that the Vedas are the only books really > talking reality. > > Life, nature, reality, it's WILD. The Vedas seem to ring true much more > so than dryer versions of reality like science and standard modern > Christian views etc. Vedas, Bhagavatam, in their strange wild > conslusions or revelations, seem much closer to reality which to me > seems pretty bizarre just from what I can see of it with my eyes. > > The bind I find myself in in life, you know, being human yet seeking > Divinity, seems much more so covered by Vedic conclusions than any other. > > The length of the Yugas, it's information, but it hardly matters in our > real struggle right now. That's another point. Some of this knowledge is > more peripheral, helping to maybe shore up and support more important > things, like moving ahead with personal practice, which seems to be of > the utmost importance in our immediate progress. > > But as was said, we have no way of really challenging Vedic statements > like about things like length of Kalpas, Yugas, etc. With everything > else given in Veda that we can see working, like Jyotish, Ayurveda, > Brahma Vidya, etc., it makes sense to just fold our ego and accept. > > Inspiring topic. Thanks. > > Raghunandan das > > (das goravani) > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:35:57 -0800 > Das Goravani <> > The Future Is a few hours ago > > > I'm never not amazed. > > Today Apple Announced some new Mac configurations. > > The New Macs have built in CD-RW drives, that means they come with CD > rom burning drives built in, the kind that can rewrite over CD's (the > rewritable type of CD's). This means they have 650 MB built in backup > devices. Wow. > > But wait, the newest G4 tower will also burn DVD's. That's f(*&*(&(*& > amazing. Now people can make their own movie CD's on their Mac. That's a > first. Previously DVD burning drives were mega expensive. I just checked > a few weeks ago. > > So the ability to make desktop movies is totally now and real. > > So creating and moving content has never been easier. > > But what content? > > We've got MTV, and all they know about is the Vagina. Seems like > entertainment TV is focused solely on this one piece of software. > (Vagina is Latin for "the sheath for the sword") > > We've got a president who looks like he's clueless, and Pat Robertson, > who definitely is. > > It's up to us folks, the new breed of thinkers- those who still are > interested in the truth. > > Generate content. Spread truth. Before it's too late. > > I'm kidding. > > I just wanted to tell you there's some cool new Macs out. Impressive. Go Apple. > > The next Mac should be called "The Organic". It'll come with a worm > painted on the cover. > > It will have less "pests in side" (pesticide) residue. > > As we become more organic, more close to nature, we also have less pests > inside residue, like lust, anger, greed, and envy, definitely by > products of the industrial age, and all other ages come to think of it. > We've been around a long time, and the pests inside residue build up has > to be eliminated by natural farming of our internal soil. > > > > Raghu Goravani > > > > > > > 2852 Willamette St # 353 > Eugene OR USA 97405 > > or > Fax: 541-343-0344 > > "Goravani Jyotish" > Vedic/Hindu Astrology Software > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:14:51 -0800 > Sabine Stetson <sstetson > RE: subscription problems/Digest Number 324 > > dear yogini - why dont you just "" (from wherever) - and then > start a new subscription with ...? you will be guided through > the procedure, will be given choice of password etc...very easy > process..painless:))) > > good luck, > sabine > > Yogini Yogini [yogini2] > Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:20 PM > Cc: gjlist; gjlist > Re: [gjlist] Digest Number 324 > > > So Gouravani, if one s to this list thru your web site, how do they > get in to do modifications or read past posts? > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:33:37 -0000 > swamyvk > Will he be imprisoned? > > Male Born on March 13,1970, at 21:07:00 Hours in the city of > Hartford, CT, USA (Lat. 41 N 45, Long. 72 W 41) > > To make a long story short, his ex-girlfriend started filing police > complaints about 2 1/2 years ago that he was stalking her, calling > her and harassing her. This resulted in both getting restraining > orders against each other. Following this, the complaints did not > stop. The police arrested the man each time the woman complained. > After going to courts and having proved nothing, the judges let him > go. Then the police started ignoring the complaints. However,the lady > started complaining in another jurisdiction and got their police > involved. So, he was arrested again. This has gone on for 2 1/2 > years. His legal bills are about $40,000. > > This man is at the end of his rope. For some days he was at peace and > things seemed to come to an end. Now a complaint filed in 1999 has > landed him in a tight spot with the police again. His lawers refuse > to fight the case until he pays $25000. > > The question is, when will his predicament end? Will he end up in > prison. From what I know, he is very much innocent. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:52:23 -0800 > Jeffrey P Pummill <ayurjyotish > Indian Holyday's and Medical Karaka's List > > Dear List Members, > I had asked if anyone knew of the upcoming holydays and festivals of > India in the Months of March and April. My friend who asked me to find > this information is leaving for India in a few days. I would greatly > appreciate it if someone could help me with this. Also, does anyone know > where one can find a fairly comprehensive Medical Karaka's list ?Namaste, > Jeff > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Fri, 23 Feb 2001 04:16:19 -0400 > yashrai > Re: Indian Holyday's and Medical Karaka's List > > Here is some of the information that you asked for: > Important dates for March, 2001 > 1.Holi Festival : March 3 to 9, a seasonal festival indicating change of > seasons. > 2. Puranmashi Fast. March 9 > 3. Navratras: The nine auspicious days for fasting, prayers , and austerities > begin on March 26 . > 4. Indian Vikram year 2058 begins on March 26 . > --------- > April dates: > Durga Ashtmi : April 1 > Ram Naumi : April 2 ( v.impt.)(Birthday of Lord Rama) > Navratra ends on April 2 > Ekadshi Vrat: April 4 > Mahavir Jyanti: April 6 (Birthday of Bhagwan Mahavir) > Baisakhi April 13 (very imp.cultural/religious festival) > Purshuram Jyanti : April 25/26 (Birthday of Bhagwan Purushuram) > ---------------------------- > Hope this info is of some help . > Regards, > Yashwant > > > > Jeffrey P Pummill wrote: > > > Dear List Members, > > I had asked if anyone knew of the upcoming holydays and festivals of > > India in the Months of March and April. My friend who asked me to find > > this information is leaving for India in a few days. I would greatly > > appreciate it if someone could help me with this. Also, does anyone know > > where one can find a fairly comprehensive Medical Karaka's list ?Namaste, > > Jeff > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:49:37 +0530 > "Manoj Pathak" <manojpathak > Re: Indian Holyday's and Medical Karaka's List > > Holi is a festival of colours. Lot of splashing of colours take place on the > roads and especially in the country side. So if your friend is not averse to > mixing with local community, advise your friend to stay indoors especially > on the holi day. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > >yashrai > >gjlist > >gjlist > >Re: [gjlist] Indian Holyday's and Medical Karaka's List > >Fri, 23 Feb 2001 04:16:19 -0400 > > > >Here is some of the information that you asked for: > >Important dates for March, 2001 > >1.Holi Festival : March 3 to 9, a seasonal festival indicating change of > >seasons. > >2. Puranmashi Fast. March 9 > >3. Navratras: The nine auspicious days for fasting, prayers , and > >austerities > >begin on March 26 . > >4. Indian Vikram year 2058 begins on March 26 . > >--------- > >April dates: > >Durga Ashtmi : April 1 > >Ram Naumi : April 2 ( v.impt.)(Birthday of Lord Rama) > >Navratra ends on April 2 > >Ekadshi Vrat: April 4 > >Mahavir Jyanti: April 6 (Birthday of Bhagwan Mahavir) > >Baisakhi April 13 (very imp.cultural/religious festival) > >Purshuram Jyanti : April 25/26 (Birthday of Bhagwan Purushuram) > >---------------------------- > >Hope this info is of some help . > >Regards, > >Yashwant > > > > > > > >Jeffrey P Pummill wrote: > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > I had asked if anyone knew of the upcoming holydays and festivals > >of > > > India in the Months of March and April. My friend who asked me to find > > > this information is leaving for India in a few days. I would greatly > > > appreciate it if someone could help me with this. Also, does anyone know > > > where one can find a fairly comprehensive Medical Karaka's list > >?Namaste, > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:09:13 +0100 > subra > Re: Can you describe Leo? > > Dean De Lucia wrote: > > >From Astrologia Vedica: > > > > http://www.mantra-ebooks.com/3dollar.html > > > > Typical places represented by Leo are deep forests/jungles, especially ones > > where lions roam. > > Sorry, but lions do not roam or live in forests or jungles: their habitat is > grassland and semi-desert areas where trees are few. In other words wide open > spaces with unobstructed view over a long range. Their tawny colour is a > camouflage suited for "bare earth" where they love to lie in the sun. Only > tigers live in jungles. > > regards > Mani > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > > > Your use of is subject to Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 gjlist, Yogini Yogini <yogini2@a...> wrote: > Thank you for your reply. Yes, I missed the big discussion. Think I had not d yet, and only caught the end. I would like to be able to get into tho, and read them. (Gouravani, are you reaiding this? I can't seem to get in because I d through your web page and need a password to get in through . So what do I do?) > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!! Namaste dear sister Yogini!! you could just go to . com and sign up....i just come here from my book mark now, and they only ask for my password if they're updating their system...or something's being worked on.....just go to the below address: gjlist if they ask for a password, as you are not a member of their group, they will also provide somewhere on the same page a place you can sign up and Join....then you'll provide them with your username, and your password....and you're signed up.....it's easy. actually if i remember it rightly, they will tell you that you are not a member of this group, and ask if you want to join...or you could look to the upper right hand side of the page where it will have in highlighted blue..."" and just below "" (if i remember rightly that is...as i've bookmarked the postings pages and thus don't go thru there anymore. and if you bookmark the last posting of the letters, you'll come back there and not have to sign in everytime....it recognises you anyways, due to some applet exchange i imagine....because whenever i go there it welcomes me by name...that's the value of the book mark here.... Also, dear sister, your reply letter contained all the previous letters of that digest of GJ that you probly signed up for...even though it's a bit tedious, could we, your fellow members, ask you most sweetly, kindly, and lovingly, not to quote the entire digest in your response???just delete everything except that which you wish to refer to....otherwise, people's mailboxes will be filled up with repeat trash....(not that the letters were trash...but the 6th copy of the same letter is trash)...in fact i don't even get the mail as it takes up too much room....i just signed up to the option of reading the postings at the site....let them store the material, my computer doesn't need 7 tons of useless information...... Hoping that this has been of some use to you dear sister!!! IN the Divine Mother's Love, and in Her Service, this littlest child of Hers, bows most humbly, saluting You, again and again!! as ever, Your Own Self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 gjlist, Yogini Yogini <yogini2@a...> wrote: >I have all ready been through the 12th house and currently am in the first, with one more to go, Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Namaste dear Sister Yogini!! When you are speaking of Sade Sati as above, are you referring to the house 12th to the moon, or the 12th house from the ascendant?or both in one? why i am wondering is that it seems (forgive my ignorance!!) you may be referring to this sade sati in relation to a transit of Sani over your Lagna...Now this IS considered to be a kind of Sade Sati also...but the one i had been referring to was the One which is most feared by so many....the transit over the natal Moon.... Or, on the other hand, if you like i, have your Moon and ascendant in the same house...it looks like Taurus here....(Capricorn for me)...then your statement would be more easily understood....so i am not clear as to just which kind you were referring to...Even apparently, Sade Sati is counted against the Sun....although the strength of that i do not know....the main one i look to is the Transit over the Natal Moon and the houses on either side of it.... this little one would be most interested to take a little peek at your chart if you wanted....he would love to see why that difficulty in 91-94or5....in my case it's obvious....from the periods and transits within those periods. it looks to me that if your ascendant is in Taurus, then possibly Sani and Guru are energising your tenth house of "career" or "job" (Sani is lord of this house for you)...and this could explain the aquiring of a job that actually pays some money for once...Sani can be very helpful in that direction, if you have the right attitude towards the Divine....One who deeply loves the Divine will see any of these little tests as Prasad...and will be inclined rather to be thankful for the difficulties, as i had said....thus the operant words..."humilityserviceBhakti" and "self-surrender"... and even when things are going well, we could see this too as a little test...."do you still love me my child?, or just what i give you?" those kinds of tests..... In the Divine Mother's Love, and in Her Service, this little child salutes you! as ever, Your Own Self visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 On Mon, 26 February 2001, gjlist wrote: > > Also, dear sister, your reply letter contained all the previous > letters of that digest of GJ that you probly signed up for...even > though it's a bit tedious, could we, your fellow members, ask you most > sweetly, kindly, and lovingly, not to quote the entire digest in your > response???< The entire digest?! I didn't know I did that. Oh my, well that was definitely an accident, as I always edit. What must have happened, and this has happened to me before that is why I think it is the culprit, is that I did a copy and paste, but it copied and pasted more than it showed me. >just delete everything except that which you wish to refer > to....otherwise, people's mailboxes will be filled up with repeat > trash....(not that the letters were trash...but the 6th copy of the > same letter is trash)...in fact i don't even get the mail as it takes > up too much room....i just signed up to the option of reading the > postings at the site....let them store the material, my computer > doesn't need 7 tons of useless information......< Yup, yup, got it. Yogini > Message: 2 > Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:00:04 -0000 > kasi_visvanath > Re: Sade-Sati > > gjlist, Yogini Yogini <yogini2@a...> wrote: > >I have all ready been through the 12th house and > currently am in the first, with one more to go, > > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! > > Namaste dear Sister Yogini!! > > When you are speaking of Sade Sati as above, are you referring to the > house 12th to the moon, or the 12th house from the ascendant?or both > in one?< Saturn is currently transitting my first house. > why i am wondering is that it seems (forgive my ignorance!!) you may > be referring to this sade sati in relation to a transit of Sani over > your Lagna...Now this IS considered to be a kind of Sade Sati > also...but the one i had been referring to was the One which is most > feared by so many....the transit over the natal Moon....< When I look at my transit chart, with Moon as the rising, I get Sade-Sati, so is this different? > > Or, on the other hand, if you like i, have your Moon and ascendant in > the same house...it looks like Taurus here....< Did I give you my birth data? I dont recall giving it out. Its all right, I am just wondering how you can do that. >(Capricorn for > me)...then your statement would be more easily understood....so i am > not clear as to just which kind you were referring to...Even > apparently, Sade Sati is counted against the Sun....although the > strength of that i do not know....the main one i look to is the > Transit over the Natal Moon and the houses on either side of it.... > > this little one would be most interested to take a little peek at your > chart if you wanted....he would love to see why that difficulty in > 91-94or5....< If you would email me privately, I will send. >in my case it's obvious....from the periods and transits > within those periods. > > it looks to me that if your ascendant is in Taurus, then possibly Sani > and Guru are energising your tenth house of "career" or "job" (Sani is > lord of this house for you)< Ahhh now that could be it! Though also jupiter transitting the first may be giving me some help too. I must rush and can't write anymore at the moment, but wish to thank you for helping me out. If you want to check out my chart, I would greatly appreciate it. Though I have done it myself, I am biased for one, and for the other, have spent more time doing that charts of others than my own. It would be nice to see someone elses opinion. Yogini Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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