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Dear Mani


<<The original caste system was developed on Atlantis

and was called "colours", denoting the "flags" of the guilds. >>


The original caste system is given by Lord Krishna everytime that it is lost.

It is developed by every human society that wants to be perfect because that is

the way to be. Atlantis is said to have flourished between 100,000 and 36,000

years ago. If Atlantis had the original caste system, it is not the oldest

civilization that have done that. We can read about it from Srila Prabhupada's



"The Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Krishna, said: I instructed this

imperishable science of yoga to the sun-god, Vivasvan, and Vivasvan instructed

it to Manu, the father of mankind, and Manu in turn instructed it to Iksvaku. "

Bhagavad Gita As It is 4-1 By Srila Prabhupada


In the Purport for this sloka, Srila Prabhupada says:


"The sun is the king of the planets, and the sun-god (at present of the name

Vivasvan) rules the sun planet, which is controlling all other planets by

supplying heat and light. He is rotating under the order of Krishna, and Lord

Krishna originally made Vivasvan His first disciple to understand the science of

Bhagavad-gita. The Gita is not, therefore, a speculative treatise for the

insignificant mundane scholar but is a standard book of knowledge coming down

from time immemorial.

In the Mahabharata (Santi-parva 348.51-52) we can trace out the history of the

Gita as follows:


treta-yugadau ca tato

vivasvan manave dadau

manus ca loka-bhrty-artham

sutayeksvakave dadau


iksvakuna ca kathito

vyapya lokan avasthitah


"In the beginning of the millennium known as Treta-yuga this science of the

relationship with the Supreme was delivered by Vivasvan to Manu. Manu, being the

father of mankind, gave it to his son Maharaja Iksvaku, the king of this earth

planet and forefather of the Raghu dynasty, in which Lord Ramacandra appeared."

Therefore, Bhagavad-gita existed in human society from the time of Maharaja



At the present moment we have just passed through five thousand years of the

Kali-yuga, which lasts 432,000 years. Before this there was Dvapara-yuga

(800,000 years), and before that there was Treta-yuga (1,200,000 years). Thus,

some 2,005,000 years ago, Manu spoke the Bhagavad-gita to his disciple and son

Maharaja Iksvaku, the king of this planet earth. The age of the current Manu is

calculated to last some 305,300,000 years, of which 120,400,000 have passed.

Accepting that before the birth of Manu the Gita was spoken by the Lord to His

disciple the sun-god Vivasvan, a rough estimate is that the Gita was spoken at

least 120,400,000 years ago; and in human society it has been extant for two

million years. It was respoken by the Lord again to Arjuna about five thousand

years ago. That is the rough estimate of the history of the Gita, according to

the Gita itself and according to the version of the speaker, Lord Sri Krishna.

It was spoken to the sun-god Vivasvan because he is also a ksatriya and is the

father of all ksatriyas who are descendants of the sun-god, or the surya-vamsa

ksatriyas. Because Bhagavad-gita is as good as the Vedas, being spoken by the

Supreme Personality of Godhead, this knowledge is apauruseya, superhuman. Since

the Vedic instructions are accepted as they are, without human interpretation,

the Gita must therefore be accepted without mundane interpretation. The mundane

wranglers may speculate on the Gita in their own ways, but that is not

Bhagavad-gita as it is. Therefore, Bhagavad-gita has to be accepted as it is,

from the disciplic succession, and it is described herein that the Lord spoke to

the sun-god, the sun-god


And if we have doubts about who is the creator of the caste system, from the

same book we read:


"According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with

them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me. And although I am

the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the nondoer, being

unchangeable." BG Ch 4-13




Natabara Das











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