Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2000 You stated you had difficulties with your mother and looking at your chart it is easy to see why. Firstly Mars the planet of fights and arguments is in Cancer the sign of the mother in the 8th house. The Moon itself is weak, is Ava yogi, weak in shad bala and afflicted by Mars. The depositor of the Moon is also depositor of the lagna lord and 4th lord of Mother. Venus is difficult by lordship and afflicted by Saturn. Saturn is then aspected by Mars. The 4th lord and lagna lord Jupiter is in the 8th house from the Moon. In the Navamsha the lagna lord Mercury is in the 12th house aspected by Saturn and the Moon is in the navamsha of Saturn. Even in the Dwadashamsha chart of parents, lagna lord Saturn is also neecha with the Moon in the 3rd house. Your relationship with your mother and early family life must have been extremely difficult as 2nd lord Saturn is also in the nakshatra of Mars and also recieves its 8th aspect from the 8th house. Moon is also in the nakshatra of Rahu and receives its aspect. Also lagna lord and 4th lord Jupiter is in the navamsha of Saturn and afflicted by both Mars and Saturn. Rahu also aspects the Moon in the navamsha. The last few years must have been tough as Saturn was in transit in the 7th house from the Moon in the 5th house of the intellect and enjoyments. Presently both Saturn and Jupiter are in rapt conjunction in the 8th house from natal Moon which is tough as you are running Saturn/Rahu and both these natural malefics have an aspect to your Moon, the planet of the mind and your 8th lord of profound thinking. Rahu should be good to you as its depositor is exalted in the 10th house with the 9th lord Sun. With the Moon in conjunction with Neptune it can make a person detached from reality, especially in hard aspect to the planet of material reality, Saturn, as has been happenning in your chart for the last few years. Ketu in the lagna can also be a point of self depreciation along with Saturn in the 3rd house. Saturn reaches its maturity around 36 years of age which you are now reaching. Whatever is happenning to you is for the better no matter how bad it seems. When Rahu trines your natal Sun and Mercury in a few years the clouds will clear and you will go into the dasha of Mercury a different person to you are now. We are all on our long journey back to the divine..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2000 How do you explain she has absolutely no career with this raja yoga in the 10th aspected by Jupiter? Sundari skinbags wrote: > > You stated you had difficulties with your mother and looking at your > chart it is easy to see why. > > Firstly Mars the planet of fights and arguments is in Cancer the sign > of the mother in the 8th house. The Moon itself is weak, is Ava yogi, > weak in shad bala and afflicted by Mars. The depositor of the Moon is > also depositor of the lagna lord and 4th lord of Mother. Venus is > difficult by lordship and afflicted by Saturn. Saturn is then > aspected by Mars. The 4th lord and lagna lord Jupiter is in the 8th > house from the Moon. > > In the Navamsha the lagna lord Mercury is in the 12th house aspected > by Saturn and the Moon is in the navamsha of Saturn. Even in the > Dwadashamsha chart of parents, lagna lord Saturn is also neecha with > the Moon in the 3rd house. Your relationship with your mother and > early family life must have been extremely difficult as 2nd lord > Saturn is also in the nakshatra of Mars and also recieves its 8th > aspect from the 8th house. Moon is also in the nakshatra of Rahu and > receives its aspect. Also lagna lord and 4th lord Jupiter is in the > navamsha of Saturn and afflicted by both Mars and Saturn. Rahu also > aspects the Moon in the navamsha. > > The last few years must have been tough as Saturn was in transit in > the 7th house from the Moon in the 5th house of the intellect and > enjoyments. Presently both Saturn and Jupiter are in rapt conjunction > in the 8th house from natal Moon which is tough as you are running > Saturn/Rahu and both these natural malefics have an aspect to your > Moon, the planet of the mind and your 8th lord of profound thinking. > > Rahu should be good to you as its depositor is exalted in the 10th > house with the 9th lord Sun. With the Moon in conjunction with > Neptune it can make a person detached from reality, especially in > hard aspect to the planet of material reality, Saturn, as has been > happenning in your chart for the last few years. > > Ketu in the lagna can also be a point of self depreciation along with > Saturn in the 3rd house. Saturn reaches its maturity around 36 years > of age which you are now reaching. Whatever is happenning to you is > for the better no matter how bad it seems. > > When Rahu trines your natal Sun and Mercury in a few years the clouds > will clear and you will go into the dasha of Mercury a different > person to you are now. We are all on our long journey back to the > divine..... > > ------ > Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. > http://click./1/4634/1/_/913692/_/962003271/ > ------ > > > gjlist- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2000 In a message dated 06/26/2000 12:08:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, skinbags writes: << Ketu in the lagna can also be a point of self depreciation along with Saturn in the 3rd house. Saturn reaches its maturity around 36 years of age which you are now reaching. Whatever is happenning to you is for the better no matter how bad it seems. >> . Thanks so much for your sensitive interpretation of my difficult early life, and for your kind reassurance. I guess it does seem bad, but mostly when people think their lives or situations are bad it's because they had different expectations for the future than what they got. When you hear people in therapy talking, that's what they're saying -- they're trying to get over the death of a hopeful self-concept or the death of some idea they had about being protected from failure, or loss. Grief is the process, it seems, of understanding what life is; slow, scheduled loss of all and everything. Kindness is really finally the only logical response to other human beings, in their various states of denial and suffering. . I feel deep gratitude when it is offered to me. Back to the original issue, since I don't want to go on and on about my rotten life -- The malefic aspects in the chart to Mother/Home/Childhood that you've pointed out ( I saw less than half of these) speak with much more clarity about the situation than the vague aspects in the Western; an Aries fourth cusp ( okay, violence and warrior energy in the early home, fine - ). a retro Saturn in the second house which vanish the father ( who slipped in the shower and broke his neck), squaring a retro jupiter in the fifth, moon in Scorpio square mars and etc. But these are vague indicators, and could just mean that my father was a military man with no money and my mother was a valium addict. Or that I am a valium addict. Or whatever. But I think what I'm trying to say is that astrology in the Western tradition has become a processing point as people try to figure out what is happening in their lives. Without a singular spiritual framework ( instead, eclecticism and the Religion of the Week), people are at least united conceptually in the symbolic understanding of Pisces, Aries, Venus and Mars. Consciousness in the States has embraced the concept of personality typing, in response to a slow, almost subterranean acceptance of the ideas of Carl Jung, who was, and I mean this with pure affection, a complete lunatic, much loonier than me even. Because of this Western Astrology has become something other than Astrology -- I think the word itself means something different to you than it does to the average Western consumer of horoscopes and natal charts. It's not a Divine Science in the West, because collective consciousness will not allow it to be Science. Instead it's a culminating point in the Western tradition of self-analysis. Love, Vox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
