To Heaven at death?

[Guest guest]

Dear Das and gjlist group,

 

I wonder if anyone has comments about what factors might be

operating to cause a person to have Parkinson's disease? And in the case I

will describe, does anyone have an idea what factors are operating in my

recently deceased father's chart?

 

My father passed away last September after experiencing Parkinson's

disease for about 5 years. He fell several times, was given so many

medications to stop the tremors that he was basically incoherent and

hallucinating much of 1999.

 

Das mentions the 12th house being a place for spiritual

contemplation and in the case of a less-spiritual choice, where one might

receive physical medication.

<<So the twelfth, despite it's other bad allocations, also rules some

really good and important things, if you're into Divinity, otherwise

it's all yucky medicine.>>

In my father's case, Dad was highly medicated with powerful drugs. His

doctors thought he suffered from dementia even when he was telling them the

truth, since my father's female companion told the doctors in California that

she was his wife. Dad tried to tell the doctor this past year the truth:

that they had never married. The doctor assumed he was suffering dementia.

Dad's long time consort flew him from Florida to California several

times in 1999, and in early 1999 Dad suffered a mild heart attack. She kept

the names of Dad's family members from the hospital records, and instead lied

to the hospital and medical people that her niece and her daughter were Dad's

daughters, and that she was Dad's wife. In truth, my father was married

twice: to my mother who passed away in 1963, and to a second wife whom he

divorced in 1971.

 

My younger brother who lives in California, 16 miles from Dad's

hospital, visited Dad often at the hospital last year, never knowing any of

the deceptions going on. I live in Virginia, so have had to uncover these

things through contact with medical records people who do not wish to

disclose anything freely. However, some avenues have opened up to allow

truth to have its day in the sunshine, which I expect will become a matter of

public record in the year or years to come.

 

My father was born July 6, 1918, in Brooklyn, NY (time unknown).

Many thanks to any who would like to discuss Parkinson's or any

other aspect of this unusual case, including what may likely be the 12th

house for my deceased father.

 

Your grateful fellow traveler,

Carol Hook

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Goravani.

Going through the Word Document provided as an outprint of your program, you

state one line.

 

Heaven at death------

---------------------

/JUPIN12/

Jupiter is in 12.

 

Would you please clarify?

 

I'm especially interested in this as I infact have Jupiter in 12th. What

interpretation would we give this from a hinduistic/buhddistic philosophy?.

 

Best Wishes

Yours Visti Larsen

 

P.S. Great Program.. thanx.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ever moving forward, on to the future, we strive towards "better", which

means peace, satisfaction, happiness, and other goals which feel good,

and don't feel bad.

 

Heaven is the ultimate 'feel good'.

 

Jupiter is the religious giver. The twelfth has to do with old age and

death and some classics say "the next life", which can be taken to grow

from wherever we "are at" when we're old...as we think and act, so on to

that destination we go.

 

So Jupiter in the 12th is good for becoming religious more and more with

time, and therefore it helps the future life greatly.

 

This sentence "Heaven at death" for Jupiter in 12th comes from classics,

not me. The readings in GJ are mostly from classics.

 

I have notices the following: The 4 houses 3/6/9/12 are "twelfth" to the

angles, which make us the backbone of our bodily life now. So these

houses mentioned, well they "drain energy" from the angles. They are

therefore involved in liberation, because liberation does include

turning away from, and giving up, most worldly considerations. Like 10th

house is Pratishta, or name and fame, and 9th house or dharma certainly

leads us away from this aim of life.

 

So the 12th is 4th from 9th, and is therefore heart of God, and Real

Estate of God, and so on. That's why it rules old age homes and

hospitals, because people are doing alot of praying there. I have been

down on my knees in a hospital once or twice, praying either for my own

life or somebody elses. Certainly in old age homes you find some pretty

ernest devotions going on.

 

So the twelfth, despite it's other bad allocations, also rules some

really good and important things, if you're into Divinity, otherwise

it's all yucky medicine.

 

Peace

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Das Goravani, President

Dancing Moon Inc.

PMB #353

2852 Willamette St

Eugene OR USA 97405

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic/Hindu Astrology Software

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

I received no response to my request for commentary about Parkinson's,

and possible 12th house for my father who died Sept. 10, 1999 in Redwood

City, CA at 2:05 am Pacific Time. This is my second (and last) request, in

case someone meant to comment. I thank you all for tolerating my email to

this list.

Best wishes to all,

Carol

[Guest guest]

Namaste Carol,

 

At 12:36 PM 05/11/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>Dear friends,

> I received no response to my request for commentary about Parkinson's,

>and possible 12th house for my father who died Sept. 10, 1999 in Redwood

>City, CA at 2:05 am Pacific Time. This is my second (and last) request, in

>case someone meant to comment. I thank you all for tolerating my email to

>this list.

> Best wishes to all,

> Carol

 

I think the difficulty with your request, was that you lacked a time of

birth for your father. Apart from general astrological purposes, not

having the TOB does not give us much to work with, especially in the area

of longevity and determination of chronic illness, which can be very

specific and tricky areas of study.

 

With regards,

Robert

 

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Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

760 NW Broken Arrow Rd.

Bend, OR. 97701-9037

Phone: 541-318-0248

visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail

rk. rk

[Guest guest]

Namaste Robert,

Many thanks for your reply. Currently I do not know my father's

time of birth, so I will need to determine it through deep reflection over

the years behind and the years ahead. Blessings to you!

Carol

 

In a message dated 5/11/2000 3:00:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rkoch writes:

 

<< Subj: Re: [gjlist] To Heaven at death?

5/11/2000 3:00:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time

rkoch (Robert A. Koch)

Reply-to: gjlist

gjlist

 

Namaste Carol,

 

At 12:36 PM 05/11/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>Dear friends,

> I received no response to my request for commentary about

Parkinson's,

>and possible 12th house for my father who died Sept. 10, 1999 in Redwood

>City, CA at 2:05 am Pacific Time. This is my second (and last) request, in

>case someone meant to comment. I thank you all for tolerating my email to

>this list.

> Best wishes to all,

> Carol

 

I think the difficulty with your request, was that you lacked a time of

birth for your father. Apart from general astrological purposes, not

having the TOB does not give us much to work with, especially in the area

of longevity and determination of chronic illness, which can be very

specific and tricky areas of study.

 

With regards,

Robert

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