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Dear Sanjay,

 

Many thanks for this extra info. - along the same lines, is this Brothership

(of Kartikeya/Ganesh) why Mars/Ketu are both said to - own Scorpio?

 

i.e. because the former 2 (Devas) are Brothers, so the Latter 2 Signs

(Planets) both Own the same House, because of the Brother-Connection?

 

Very best - Sateesh.

 

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"Sanjay Rath" <srath

"Sateesh Batas" <makara; "Goravani List"

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10 April 2000 20:56

RE: Kuja Dosha

 

 

> Dear Sateesh,

> In addition...

> Hanumanji representing Mars & Aries never married and was a willing

> celibate. Kartikeya, again Mars, was only unlucky in that he lost the race

> aroung the three worlds to Ganeshji (his younger brother represented by

> Ketu) who married Vidya and Siddhi (Two wives). That is why in Rasi

Dasa's,

> the period of sign having Ketu is very favourable for marriage.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Sanjay Rath

> Web Site: http://www.sjvc.net

>

>

> gjlist-request [gjlist-request]On

> Behalf Of Sateesh Batas

> Wednesday, April 05, 2000 0315 S Rath

> Goravani List

> Re: Kuja Dosha

>

>

> Dear Karu,

>

> Regarding why Mars represents "Bramacharya" or Bachelor or Celibate,

etc. -

> I read that Kartikeya was more fond of Battles and not so interested in

> Women - although I also read that he did have a Competition with his

Brother

> (Ganesh) and lost, over a Female!

>

> As this was a while back, I can't tell you the Source - and I know this

> isn't quite an Astrological answer - but it may help.

>

> Very best - Sateesh.

>

> ===========

>

> -

> "Karu" <heen

> "GJLIST" <gjlist

> 04 April 2000 09:25

> Re: Kuja Dosha

>

>

> > Would you be kindly able to put some light on Kuja Dosa too. I wonder

how

> > Mars sighnify " Brahmacharya"

>

>

>

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Dear Sanjay,

Isn't Karthikeya and Murugan same?. I thought Murugan also

had two wives. Valli and Deaivanai.

Please Correct me if i am wrong.

 

Regards

Sanjay

 

 

 

gjlist , "Sateesh Batas" <makara@m...> wrote:

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Many thanks for this extra info. - along the same lines, is this

Brothership

> (of Kartikeya/Ganesh) why Mars/Ketu are both said to - own Scorpio?

>

> i.e. because the former 2 (Devas) are Brothers, so the Latter 2

Signs

> (Planets) both Own the same House, because of the Brother-

Connection?

>

> Very best - Sateesh.

>

> =========

>

>

>

> -

> "Sanjay Rath" <srath

> "Sateesh Batas" <makara; "Goravani List"

> <gjlist

> 10 April 2000 20:56

> RE: Kuja Dosha

>

>

> > Dear Sateesh,

> > In addition...

> > Hanumanji representing Mars & Aries never married and was a

willing

> > celibate. Kartikeya, again Mars, was only unlucky in that he lost

the race

> > aroung the three worlds to Ganeshji (his younger brother

represented by

> > Ketu) who married Vidya and Siddhi (Two wives). That is why in

Rasi

> Dasa's,

> > the period of sign having Ketu is very favourable for marriage.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > Web Site: http://www.sjvc.net

> >

> >

> > gjlist-request [gjlist-

request]On

> > Behalf Of Sateesh Batas

> > Wednesday, April 05, 2000 0315 S Rath

> > Goravani List

> > Re: Kuja Dosha

> >

> >

> > Dear Karu,

> >

> > Regarding why Mars represents "Bramacharya" or Bachelor or

Celibate,

> etc. -

> > I read that Kartikeya was more fond of Battles and not so

interested in

> > Women - although I also read that he did have a Competition with

his

> Brother

> > (Ganesh) and lost, over a Female!

> >

> > As this was a while back, I can't tell you the Source - and I

know this

> > isn't quite an Astrological answer - but it may help.

> >

> > Very best - Sateesh.

> >

> > ===========

> >

> > -

> > "Karu" <heen

> > "GJLIST" <gjlist

> > 04 April 2000 09:25

> > Re: Kuja Dosha

> >

> >

> > > Would you be kindly able to put some light on Kuja Dosa too. I

wonder

> how

> > > Mars sighnify " Brahmacharya"

> >

> >

> >

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Om Krishnaaya Namah

 

Hi all,

 

I know the topic is a bit outdated, but since we are

quiet, I just thought I'd say this anyway. I remember

that one of the early points brought up in the Kuja

Dosha thread was whether Jupiter increases the effects

of Kuja Dosha. Well, according to Maharshi Parashara,

certainly not. In his chapter on Stri Jataka (Female

horoscopy), he says to Maitreya:

 

"If Mars is bereft of the aspect or conjunction of the

auspicious planets and is posited in the ascendant,

the twelfth, the fourth, the seventh or the eighth,

the husband of such a woman will certainly have an

early death."

 

Thanks,

 

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>I know the topic is a bit outdated, but since we are

>quiet, I just thought I'd say this anyway.

 

Dear Pursottam,

Nice to here from you back. How did you go with your exam etc. ? Looks you

free at the movement.

This type of discussions cannot be outdated. I feel we will never go to the

end.

 

>I remember

>that one of the early points brought up in the Kuja

>Dosha thread was whether Jupiter increases the effects

>of Kuja Dosha.

 

That was me put this thought to the list. Even it was impossible, I wanted

discuss about this seriously. How Jupiter expand and why ? This may not

applicable to Kuja dosa, but I thought to discuss.

 

>Well, according to Maharshi Parashara,

>certainly not. In his chapter on Stri Jataka (Female

>horoscopy), he says to Maitreya:

>

>"If Mars is bereft of the aspect or conjunction of the

>auspicious planets and is posited in the ascendant,

>the twelfth, the fourth, the seventh or the eighth,

>the husband of such a woman will certainly have an

>early death."

 

"The Mars (without beneficial aspect) in so-called places bring early death

to husband."

Is this correct ?

 

Thanks,

 

Karu.

 

Ps = I am looking forward for my new year. To all list members, happy and

peaceful new year- Karu

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Hello Purushottam,

 

The chart in this email is similar to my sister's. Hence the question. I

would love to hear your opinion on the marital aspects of my sister's chart.

 

Supriti

___________________

Date of Birth: November 18, 1977

Time of Birth: 11:28:00 pm

Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

Longitude of Birth: 88 E 22

Latitude of Birth: 22 N 32

Lunar month (maasa): Karthika

Lunar day (tithi): Sukla Navami

Tithi balance: 0.6329

Nakshatra balance: 0.5142

Sun-Moon Yoga: Vyaghata

Sun-Moon Karana: Balava

Vara (weekday): Friday

 

Sunrise = 5:50 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

Ayanamsa = 23-32-57

Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | | |

| Ket | HL | | JupR |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | GL |

| | | |

| Moo | | Mar |

| | | |

| | | BL |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| | | Glk Asc |

| | | |

| | | Sat Mnd |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | Sun | | |

| | | Ven | Rah |

| | Mer | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | Glk | |

| | | | |

| Ven | | Asc | Rah |

| | | | |

| | | Sat | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | GL |

| BL | | |

| | | Sun |

| | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | |

| JupR | | |

| | | Mnd |

| Moo | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| Mer | | | |

| | Mar | HL | |

| Ket | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

>Pursottam Dabasia <pursottam_dabasia

>gjlist

>gjlist

>Re: [gjlist] Re: Kuja Dosha

>Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:40:03 +0100 (BST)

>

>Om Krishnaaya Namah

>

>Hello Karu,

>

> >>Nice to here from you back. How did you go with your

>exam etc. ?<<

>

>Nice to hear from you too! I haven't had any exams

>yet, but have given in coursework which does seem to

>have gone well. Of course, being the lazy person that

>I am, I decided to leave it all to the last minute,

>and then rush it all. Not recommended to anybody in

>similar situation. The exams begin about a month from

>now, so I am now in definite preparation for them. But

>thanks for asking.

>

> >>How Jupiter expand and why?<<

>

>I personally just see it as part of Deva Guru

>Brihaspati's personality. He's likes to do things big.

>You know what I mean - His clothes must be made of the

>finest material. His pujas and yagya's must be done on

>a large scale, with the best ingredients and

>offerings, nice big fire etc. He's a perfectionist who

>likes to do things big. You know, perhaps a bit of ego

>there as well. But that's just my view.

>

> >>"The Mars (without beneficial aspect) in so-called

>places bring early death to husband." Is this correct

>?<<

>

>Yes. Obviously we must watch everything else as well.

>But when there are matching indications, we can be

>more confident. So see the following chart:

>

>

>South Indian Style Rasi Chart for Widow

>

>*************************************************

>* 8* 9* 10* 11*

>* * * * *

>* * * * *

>* Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge*

>*************************************************

>* 7* * 12*

>* MOO * * *

>* JUP * * RAH *

>* Aq* * MAR Ca*

>************* *************

>* 6* * 1*

>* * * PLU *

>* SAT KET * * LAG *

>* Cp* * URA Le*

>*************************************************

>* 5* 4* VEN 3* 2*

>* * SUN * NEP * *

>* * MER * * *

>* Sa* Sc* Li* Vi*

>*************************************************

>

>South Indian Style Navamsa Chart for Widow

>

>*************************************************

>* 10* MOO 11* SAT 12* LAG 1*

>* KET * NEP * * *

>* VEN * * * *

>* MAR Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge*

>*************************************************

>* 9* * URA 2*

>* * * *

>* * * *

>* MER Aq* * Ca*

>************* *************

>* 8* * 3*

>* * * *

>* * * *

>* JUP Cp* * Le*

>*************************************************

>* 7* 6* 5* RAH 4*

>* * * * PLU *

>* * * * *

>* SUN Sa* Sc* Li* Vi*

>*************************************************

>

>This lady is now thirty-seven. She lost her husband at

>35. In her Rashi chart, we see a proper Kuja Dosha,

>like what Parashara gives, where Mars is in the

>twelfth without benefic aspect. Further, he is

>debilitated, conjunct Rahu (-Ketu axis), and aspected

>by Saturn. Not nice. But furthermore, we can also see

>that in the seventh, she has the Lord of the eighth

>and twelfth, clearly showing the loss. And also, in

>the Navamsha, the Lord of the seventh gets debilitated

>in the eighth. The death happened when the Rahu/Ketu

>were transiting the Asc/Desc axis. Since I'm trying to

>be a purist, and trying to learn the Vedic methods, we

>won't go into the outers.

>

>That's one example.

>

>Hope it's helped,

>

>Pursottam

>

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Om Krishnaaya Namah

 

Hello Karu,

 

>>Nice to here from you back. How did you go with your

exam etc. ?<<

 

Nice to hear from you too! I haven't had any exams

yet, but have given in coursework which does seem to

have gone well. Of course, being the lazy person that

I am, I decided to leave it all to the last minute,

and then rush it all. Not recommended to anybody in

similar situation. The exams begin about a month from

now, so I am now in definite preparation for them. But

thanks for asking.

 

>>How Jupiter expand and why?<<

 

I personally just see it as part of Deva Guru

Brihaspati's personality. He's likes to do things big.

You know what I mean - His clothes must be made of the

finest material. His pujas and yagya's must be done on

a large scale, with the best ingredients and

offerings, nice big fire etc. He's a perfectionist who

likes to do things big. You know, perhaps a bit of ego

there as well. But that's just my view.

 

>>"The Mars (without beneficial aspect) in so-called

places bring early death to husband." Is this correct

?<<

 

Yes. Obviously we must watch everything else as well.

But when there are matching indications, we can be

more confident. So see the following chart:

 

 

South Indian Style Rasi Chart for Widow

 

*************************************************

* 8* 9* 10* 11*

* * * * *

* * * * *

* Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge*

*************************************************

* 7* * 12*

* MOO * * *

* JUP * * RAH *

* Aq* * MAR Ca*

************* *************

* 6* * 1*

* * * PLU *

* SAT KET * * LAG *

* Cp* * URA Le*

*************************************************

* 5* 4* VEN 3* 2*

* * SUN * NEP * *

* * MER * * *

* Sa* Sc* Li* Vi*

*************************************************

 

South Indian Style Navamsa Chart for Widow

 

*************************************************

* 10* MOO 11* SAT 12* LAG 1*

* KET * NEP * * *

* VEN * * * *

* MAR Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge*

*************************************************

* 9* * URA 2*

* * * *

* * * *

* MER Aq* * Ca*

************* *************

* 8* * 3*

* * * *

* * * *

* JUP Cp* * Le*

*************************************************

* 7* 6* 5* RAH 4*

* * * * PLU *

* * * * *

* SUN Sa* Sc* Li* Vi*

*************************************************

 

This lady is now thirty-seven. She lost her husband at

35. In her Rashi chart, we see a proper Kuja Dosha,

like what Parashara gives, where Mars is in the

twelfth without benefic aspect. Further, he is

debilitated, conjunct Rahu (-Ketu axis), and aspected

by Saturn. Not nice. But furthermore, we can also see

that in the seventh, she has the Lord of the eighth

and twelfth, clearly showing the loss. And also, in

the Navamsha, the Lord of the seventh gets debilitated

in the eighth. The death happened when the Rahu/Ketu

were transiting the Asc/Desc axis. Since I'm trying to

be a purist, and trying to learn the Vedic methods, we

won't go into the outers.

 

That's one example.

 

Hope it's helped,

 

Pursottam

 

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Dear Pursottam,

 

Do you have COVA by Sanjay ? If you read page 255 10.2.3 , you may find How

Jupiter and Saturn act on 7th House Kuja Dosa. This is new to me.

I remember I had a chart that showed me lot about Kuja Dosa, I will send it

if I able to find it.

 

Thanks,

Karu

 

>This lady is now thirty-seven. She lost her husband at

>35. In her Rashi chart, we see a proper Kuja Dosha,

>like what Parashara gives, where Mars is in the

>twelfth without benefic aspect. Further, he is

>debilitated, conjunct Rahu (-Ketu axis), and aspected

>by Saturn. Not nice. But furthermore, we can also see

>that in the seventh, she has the Lord of the eighth

>and twelfth, clearly showing the loss. And also, in

>the Navamsha, the Lord of the seventh gets debilitated

>in the eighth. The death happened when the Rahu/Ketu

>were transiting the Asc/Desc axis. Since I'm trying to

>be a purist, and trying to learn the Vedic methods, we

>won't go into the outers.

>

>That's one example.

>

>Hope it's helped,

>

>Pursottam

>

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Dear Manoj,

Nothing moves out. This is the natural age of maturity of the planet

Mars ...28 years.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

> >2.) Few weeks back, I learned the basic remedy for Kuja dosa is marry

after

> >28 years. In another words, if any one with Kuja dosa, marry after 28th

> >year, may not able to see any negative results. Is this applicable to you

> >Robert ?

>

> Will Mars move out of the Chart when one attains the age of 28 or what ? I

> am not clear, Karu.

>

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Hi!

If Jupiter aspects the 7th, even if it is malefic it

will certainly protect marriage and will give a

marital bliss.

Also, Even if Jupiter is in Neecha in Lagna for

example for Capricorn lagna. And malefic planets get

posited in the 7th house. Here Even if Jupiter is week

still it will protect marriage.

It doesnot matter Jupiter is functional malefic.

Its natural tatwa for doing things for other houses

prevails.

Thanks

Deepak

 

 

 

 

 

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le 17/10/01 18:53 (TU +2), via son e-mail <cupofmagic, Deepak

Singh a écrit :

 

 

> It doesnot matter Jupiter is functional malefic.

> Its natural tatwa for doing things for other houses

> prevails.

> Thanks

> Deepak

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for your response :-)

 

Just one question : I don't understand that word "tatwa" ?

 

What does it mean ?

 

Thanks :-)

Best wishes

 

Marie-Christine

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Deepak Singh Wrote,

Hi!

> If Jupiter aspects the 7th, even if it is malefic it

> will certainly protect marriage and will give a

> marital bliss.

> Also, Even if Jupiter is in Neecha in Lagna for

> example for Capricorn lagna. And malefic planets get

> posited in the 7th house. Here Even if Jupiter is week

> still it will protect marriage.

> It doesnot matter Jupiter is functional malefic.

> Its natural tatwa for doing things for other houses

> prevails.

> Thanks

> Deepak

 

Yes and very correct , but a functional malefic Jupiter will do things for

the loss of overall developments. To understand my point , A Capricorn

Jupiter will make a person simple and helpful to others but at the cost of

the loss of the person(12th lord). Constellation placement will make a

difference. Same is true for all the planets.

Martial behavior will be good for a cancer born with good placement of Mars,

but will be very bad for a Virgo born to whom the Mars is functional

malefic.This is general.

 

Regards,

Inder Jit Sahni

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