Guest guest Report post Posted April 10, 2000 Dear Sanjay, Many thanks for this extra info. - along the same lines, is this Brothership (of Kartikeya/Ganesh) why Mars/Ketu are both said to - own Scorpio? i.e. because the former 2 (Devas) are Brothers, so the Latter 2 Signs (Planets) both Own the same House, because of the Brother-Connection? Very best - Sateesh. ========= - "Sanjay Rath" <srath "Sateesh Batas" <makara; "Goravani List" <gjlist 10 April 2000 20:56 RE: Kuja Dosha > Dear Sateesh, > In addition... > Hanumanji representing Mars & Aries never married and was a willing > celibate. Kartikeya, again Mars, was only unlucky in that he lost the race > aroung the three worlds to Ganeshji (his younger brother represented by > Ketu) who married Vidya and Siddhi (Two wives). That is why in Rasi Dasa's, > the period of sign having Ketu is very favourable for marriage. > > Best Wishes, > Sanjay Rath > Web Site: http://www.sjvc.net > > > gjlist-request [gjlist-request]On > Behalf Of Sateesh Batas > Wednesday, April 05, 2000 0315 S Rath > Goravani List > Re: Kuja Dosha > > > Dear Karu, > > Regarding why Mars represents "Bramacharya" or Bachelor or Celibate, etc. - > I read that Kartikeya was more fond of Battles and not so interested in > Women - although I also read that he did have a Competition with his Brother > (Ganesh) and lost, over a Female! > > As this was a while back, I can't tell you the Source - and I know this > isn't quite an Astrological answer - but it may help. > > Very best - Sateesh. > > =========== > > - > "Karu" <heen > "GJLIST" <gjlist > 04 April 2000 09:25 > Re: Kuja Dosha > > > > Would you be kindly able to put some light on Kuja Dosa too. I wonder how > > Mars sighnify " Brahmacharya" > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2000 Dear Sanjay, Isn't Karthikeya and Murugan same?. I thought Murugan also had two wives. Valli and Deaivanai. Please Correct me if i am wrong. Regards Sanjay gjlist , "Sateesh Batas" <makara@m...> wrote: > Dear Sanjay, > > Many thanks for this extra info. - along the same lines, is this Brothership > (of Kartikeya/Ganesh) why Mars/Ketu are both said to - own Scorpio? > > i.e. because the former 2 (Devas) are Brothers, so the Latter 2 Signs > (Planets) both Own the same House, because of the Brother- Connection? > > Very best - Sateesh. > > ========= > > > > - > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > "Sateesh Batas" <makara; "Goravani List" > <gjlist > 10 April 2000 20:56 > RE: Kuja Dosha > > > > Dear Sateesh, > > In addition... > > Hanumanji representing Mars & Aries never married and was a willing > > celibate. Kartikeya, again Mars, was only unlucky in that he lost the race > > aroung the three worlds to Ganeshji (his younger brother represented by > > Ketu) who married Vidya and Siddhi (Two wives). That is why in Rasi > Dasa's, > > the period of sign having Ketu is very favourable for marriage. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Sanjay Rath > > Web Site: http://www.sjvc.net > > > > > > gjlist-request [gjlist- request]On > > Behalf Of Sateesh Batas > > Wednesday, April 05, 2000 0315 S Rath > > Goravani List > > Re: Kuja Dosha > > > > > > Dear Karu, > > > > Regarding why Mars represents "Bramacharya" or Bachelor or Celibate, > etc. - > > I read that Kartikeya was more fond of Battles and not so interested in > > Women - although I also read that he did have a Competition with his > Brother > > (Ganesh) and lost, over a Female! > > > > As this was a while back, I can't tell you the Source - and I know this > > isn't quite an Astrological answer - but it may help. > > > > Very best - Sateesh. > > > > =========== > > > > - > > "Karu" <heen > > "GJLIST" <gjlist > > 04 April 2000 09:25 > > Re: Kuja Dosha > > > > > > > Would you be kindly able to put some light on Kuja Dosa too. I wonder > how > > > Mars sighnify " Brahmacharya" > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 12, 2000 Om Krishnaaya Namah Hi all, I know the topic is a bit outdated, but since we are quiet, I just thought I'd say this anyway. I remember that one of the early points brought up in the Kuja Dosha thread was whether Jupiter increases the effects of Kuja Dosha. Well, according to Maharshi Parashara, certainly not. In his chapter on Stri Jataka (Female horoscopy), he says to Maitreya: "If Mars is bereft of the aspect or conjunction of the auspicious planets and is posited in the ascendant, the twelfth, the fourth, the seventh or the eighth, the husband of such a woman will certainly have an early death." Thanks, Pursottam __________ Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 13, 2000 >I know the topic is a bit outdated, but since we are >quiet, I just thought I'd say this anyway. Dear Pursottam, Nice to here from you back. How did you go with your exam etc. ? Looks you free at the movement. This type of discussions cannot be outdated. I feel we will never go to the end. >I remember >that one of the early points brought up in the Kuja >Dosha thread was whether Jupiter increases the effects >of Kuja Dosha. That was me put this thought to the list. Even it was impossible, I wanted discuss about this seriously. How Jupiter expand and why ? This may not applicable to Kuja dosa, but I thought to discuss. >Well, according to Maharshi Parashara, >certainly not. In his chapter on Stri Jataka (Female >horoscopy), he says to Maitreya: > >"If Mars is bereft of the aspect or conjunction of the >auspicious planets and is posited in the ascendant, >the twelfth, the fourth, the seventh or the eighth, >the husband of such a woman will certainly have an >early death." "The Mars (without beneficial aspect) in so-called places bring early death to husband." Is this correct ? Thanks, Karu. Ps = I am looking forward for my new year. To all list members, happy and peaceful new year- Karu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 20, 2000 Hello Purushottam, The chart in this email is similar to my sister's. Hence the question. I would love to hear your opinion on the marital aspects of my sister's chart. Supriti ___________________ Date of Birth: November 18, 1977 Time of Birth: 11:28:00 pm Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT Longitude of Birth: 88 E 22 Latitude of Birth: 22 N 32 Lunar month (maasa): Karthika Lunar day (tithi): Sukla Navami Tithi balance: 0.6329 Nakshatra balance: 0.5142 Sun-Moon Yoga: Vyaghata Sun-Moon Karana: Balava Vara (weekday): Friday Sunrise = 5:50 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) Ayanamsa = 23-32-57 Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | Ket | HL | | JupR | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | GL | | | | | | Moo | | Mar | | | | | | | | BL | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | | | Glk Asc | | | | | | | | Sat Mnd | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Sun | | | | | | Ven | Rah | | | Mer | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | Glk | | | | | | | | Ven | | Asc | Rah | | | | | | | | | Sat | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | GL | | BL | | | | | | Sun | | | | | |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| | | | | | JupR | | | | | | Mnd | | Moo | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | Mer | | | | | | Mar | HL | | | Ket | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ >Pursottam Dabasia <pursottam_dabasia >gjlist >gjlist >Re: [gjlist] Re: Kuja Dosha >Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:40:03 +0100 (BST) > >Om Krishnaaya Namah > >Hello Karu, > > >>Nice to here from you back. How did you go with your >exam etc. ?<< > >Nice to hear from you too! I haven't had any exams >yet, but have given in coursework which does seem to >have gone well. Of course, being the lazy person that >I am, I decided to leave it all to the last minute, >and then rush it all. Not recommended to anybody in >similar situation. The exams begin about a month from >now, so I am now in definite preparation for them. But >thanks for asking. > > >>How Jupiter expand and why?<< > >I personally just see it as part of Deva Guru >Brihaspati's personality. He's likes to do things big. >You know what I mean - His clothes must be made of the >finest material. His pujas and yagya's must be done on >a large scale, with the best ingredients and >offerings, nice big fire etc. He's a perfectionist who >likes to do things big. You know, perhaps a bit of ego >there as well. But that's just my view. > > >>"The Mars (without beneficial aspect) in so-called >places bring early death to husband." Is this correct >?<< > >Yes. Obviously we must watch everything else as well. >But when there are matching indications, we can be >more confident. So see the following chart: > > >South Indian Style Rasi Chart for Widow > >************************************************* >* 8* 9* 10* 11* >* * * * * >* * * * * >* Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge* >************************************************* >* 7* * 12* >* MOO * * * >* JUP * * RAH * >* Aq* * MAR Ca* >************* ************* >* 6* * 1* >* * * PLU * >* SAT KET * * LAG * >* Cp* * URA Le* >************************************************* >* 5* 4* VEN 3* 2* >* * SUN * NEP * * >* * MER * * * >* Sa* Sc* Li* Vi* >************************************************* > >South Indian Style Navamsa Chart for Widow > >************************************************* >* 10* MOO 11* SAT 12* LAG 1* >* KET * NEP * * * >* VEN * * * * >* MAR Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge* >************************************************* >* 9* * URA 2* >* * * * >* * * * >* MER Aq* * Ca* >************* ************* >* 8* * 3* >* * * * >* * * * >* JUP Cp* * Le* >************************************************* >* 7* 6* 5* RAH 4* >* * * * PLU * >* * * * * >* SUN Sa* Sc* Li* Vi* >************************************************* > >This lady is now thirty-seven. She lost her husband at >35. In her Rashi chart, we see a proper Kuja Dosha, >like what Parashara gives, where Mars is in the >twelfth without benefic aspect. Further, he is >debilitated, conjunct Rahu (-Ketu axis), and aspected >by Saturn. Not nice. But furthermore, we can also see >that in the seventh, she has the Lord of the eighth >and twelfth, clearly showing the loss. And also, in >the Navamsha, the Lord of the seventh gets debilitated >in the eighth. The death happened when the Rahu/Ketu >were transiting the Asc/Desc axis. Since I'm trying to >be a purist, and trying to learn the Vedic methods, we >won't go into the outers. > >That's one example. > >Hope it's helped, > >Pursottam > >__________ > >Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk >or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie > >------ >Enjoy the award-winning journalism of The New York Times with >convenient home delivery. And for a limited time, get 50% off for the >first 8 weeks by subscribing. 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Guest guest Report post Posted April 20, 2000 Om Krishnaaya Namah Hello Karu, >>Nice to here from you back. How did you go with your exam etc. ?<< Nice to hear from you too! I haven't had any exams yet, but have given in coursework which does seem to have gone well. Of course, being the lazy person that I am, I decided to leave it all to the last minute, and then rush it all. Not recommended to anybody in similar situation. The exams begin about a month from now, so I am now in definite preparation for them. But thanks for asking. >>How Jupiter expand and why?<< I personally just see it as part of Deva Guru Brihaspati's personality. He's likes to do things big. You know what I mean - His clothes must be made of the finest material. His pujas and yagya's must be done on a large scale, with the best ingredients and offerings, nice big fire etc. He's a perfectionist who likes to do things big. You know, perhaps a bit of ego there as well. But that's just my view. >>"The Mars (without beneficial aspect) in so-called places bring early death to husband." Is this correct ?<< Yes. Obviously we must watch everything else as well. But when there are matching indications, we can be more confident. So see the following chart: South Indian Style Rasi Chart for Widow ************************************************* * 8* 9* 10* 11* * * * * * * * * * * * Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge* ************************************************* * 7* * 12* * MOO * * * * JUP * * RAH * * Aq* * MAR Ca* ************* ************* * 6* * 1* * * * PLU * * SAT KET * * LAG * * Cp* * URA Le* ************************************************* * 5* 4* VEN 3* 2* * * SUN * NEP * * * * MER * * * * Sa* Sc* Li* Vi* ************************************************* South Indian Style Navamsa Chart for Widow ************************************************* * 10* MOO 11* SAT 12* LAG 1* * KET * NEP * * * * VEN * * * * * MAR Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge* ************************************************* * 9* * URA 2* * * * * * * * * * MER Aq* * Ca* ************* ************* * 8* * 3* * * * * * * * * * JUP Cp* * Le* ************************************************* * 7* 6* 5* RAH 4* * * * * PLU * * * * * * * SUN Sa* Sc* Li* Vi* ************************************************* This lady is now thirty-seven. She lost her husband at 35. In her Rashi chart, we see a proper Kuja Dosha, like what Parashara gives, where Mars is in the twelfth without benefic aspect. Further, he is debilitated, conjunct Rahu (-Ketu axis), and aspected by Saturn. Not nice. But furthermore, we can also see that in the seventh, she has the Lord of the eighth and twelfth, clearly showing the loss. And also, in the Navamsha, the Lord of the seventh gets debilitated in the eighth. The death happened when the Rahu/Ketu were transiting the Asc/Desc axis. Since I'm trying to be a purist, and trying to learn the Vedic methods, we won't go into the outers. That's one example. Hope it's helped, Pursottam __________ Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 21, 2000 Dear Pursottam, Do you have COVA by Sanjay ? If you read page 255 10.2.3 , you may find How Jupiter and Saturn act on 7th House Kuja Dosa. This is new to me. I remember I had a chart that showed me lot about Kuja Dosa, I will send it if I able to find it. Thanks, Karu >This lady is now thirty-seven. She lost her husband at >35. In her Rashi chart, we see a proper Kuja Dosha, >like what Parashara gives, where Mars is in the >twelfth without benefic aspect. Further, he is >debilitated, conjunct Rahu (-Ketu axis), and aspected >by Saturn. Not nice. But furthermore, we can also see >that in the seventh, she has the Lord of the eighth >and twelfth, clearly showing the loss. And also, in >the Navamsha, the Lord of the seventh gets debilitated >in the eighth. The death happened when the Rahu/Ketu >were transiting the Asc/Desc axis. Since I'm trying to >be a purist, and trying to learn the Vedic methods, we >won't go into the outers. > >That's one example. > >Hope it's helped, > >Pursottam > >__________ > >Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk >or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie > >------ >Enjoy the award-winning journalism of The New York Times with >convenient home delivery. And for a limited time, get 50% off for the >first 8 weeks by subscribing. Pay by credit card and receive an >additional 4 weeks at this low introductory rate. >http://click./1/3102/0/_/913692/_/956259605/ >------ > > >gjlist- > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 22, 2000 Dear Manoj, Nothing moves out. This is the natural age of maturity of the planet Mars ...28 years. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath > >2.) Few weeks back, I learned the basic remedy for Kuja dosa is marry after > >28 years. In another words, if any one with Kuja dosa, marry after 28th > >year, may not able to see any negative results. Is this applicable to you > >Robert ? > > Will Mars move out of the Chart when one attains the age of 28 or what ? I > am not clear, Karu. > > Manoj > ____ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2000 Kuja Dosha again, lets start again all over. Manoj ______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 17, 2001 Hi! If Jupiter aspects the 7th, even if it is malefic it will certainly protect marriage and will give a marital bliss. Also, Even if Jupiter is in Neecha in Lagna for example for Capricorn lagna. And malefic planets get posited in the 7th house. Here Even if Jupiter is week still it will protect marriage. It doesnot matter Jupiter is functional malefic. Its natural tatwa for doing things for other houses prevails. Thanks Deepak Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 17, 2001 le 17/10/01 18:53 (TU +2), via son e-mail <cupofmagic, Deepak Singh a écrit : > It doesnot matter Jupiter is functional malefic. > Its natural tatwa for doing things for other houses > prevails. > Thanks > Deepak Hi, Thanks for your response :-) Just one question : I don't understand that word "tatwa" ? What does it mean ? Thanks :-) Best wishes Marie-Christine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 17, 2001 Tatwa is Element.Here it may be used as nature. S Purushothaman > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 18, 2001 Deepak Singh Wrote, Hi! > If Jupiter aspects the 7th, even if it is malefic it > will certainly protect marriage and will give a > marital bliss. > Also, Even if Jupiter is in Neecha in Lagna for > example for Capricorn lagna. And malefic planets get > posited in the 7th house. Here Even if Jupiter is week > still it will protect marriage. > It doesnot matter Jupiter is functional malefic. > Its natural tatwa for doing things for other houses > prevails. > Thanks > Deepak Yes and very correct , but a functional malefic Jupiter will do things for the loss of overall developments. To understand my point , A Capricorn Jupiter will make a person simple and helpful to others but at the cost of the loss of the person(12th lord). Constellation placement will make a difference. Same is true for all the planets. Martial behavior will be good for a cancer born with good placement of Mars, but will be very bad for a Virgo born to whom the Mars is functional malefic.This is general. Regards, Inder Jit Sahni > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
