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Om Krishnaaya Namah

 

Hi Liliana,

 

> charts again. Has anybody had a look at Leonard's chart, and Lena

 

I looked at Leonard's chart, but the first thing that struck me was that

moving the TOB forward by two minutes makes balarishta much more easier to

see, and hand-on-heart I can really say that with a Cancer Lagna, I would

definitely have seen death within the first six years, if not any more

specifically. So, let me mention the things I see in this chart.

 

1. The Lagna is in rashi sandhi, a factor that greatly weakens a chart and

makes it susceptible to traumas.

 

2. The kendras of the horoscope which should ideally be occupied by

benefics, are occupied by all the malefics. Rahu in Lagna, Mars in fourth,

Mercury, Sun and Ketu in the seventh, and debilitated Saturn in the tenth.

This forms an extremely potent and dangerous Sarpa Yoga. Rahu's placement in

the Lagna is even more dangerous than normal because he is:

 

a) the co-lord of the eighth house in the rasi, co-lord of the twenty-second

drekkana, and co-lord of the sixty-fourth navamsha. These areas are usually

considered crucial in medical astrology.

 

b) His nakshatra dispositor is Mercury, who is exactly combust, and is

afflicted by every malefic in the chart.

 

3. The Moon is an extremely critical factor in balarishta charts. Here it is

especially important because it is the lagna Lord and also the Atmakaraka.

At first glace it seems pretty OK in the chart, but looking deeper, we see

firstly that Rahu is in the twelfth from the Moon, and casts an aspect

within two degrees as per certain texts. Even if one does not accept this

aspect of Rahu's, as per the Jataka Parijata Rahu in the twelfth from the

Moon is not nice. Furthermore, by rasi drishti, the Moon is aspected by five

malefics - Sun, Mercury, Mars, Saturn and Ketu, the last being very tight.

This is again detrimental. Finally it is interesting to note that with

parallax correction, the Moon is two degrees away from it's mrtyu bhaga

point (something that a number of classics make a big deal of in balarishta

yogas). While the distance is quite far and can't be as serious if it were

nearer, it is an interesting thought that perhaps all the malefic influences

on the Moon may aggravate some of the MB tension.

 

In the Navamsha, the Moon is again lagna Lord, this time debilitated, and

aspected by Saturn and Rahu in terms of planetary aspect, and Sun and

Mercury in sign aspects. Note also that again Saturn and Rahu are both lords

of the eighth house.

 

The Sun plays a very important part in bringing death. First and foremost,

it is a top maraka being the Lord of the second and being situated in the

seventh. He is very afflicted by being in the sixth from Chandra Lagna,

associated closely with dusthana Lord Mercury as well as Ketu and also being

aspected by Mars and Saturn. The Sun is also in mrtyu bhaga, and following

the guidance given in the Jaimini Sutras, we even find that the Sun holds

the post of "Rudra", one of the most destructive forces in the chart.

Therefore the Sun's dasa was definitely going to bad for health/longevity

matters especially as the Sun's nakshatra dispositor is the seventh and

eighth Lord in debility. So, this chart is a very strong balarishta chart.

 

> comented on them and also on the question of "powerful remedies for all

> related to health" in Leonard's chart which failed to protect him.

 

Some of these protective factors that are seen in the Gemini chart,

disappear in the Cancer chart. The only one I see is a strong Jupiter

aspecting the Lagna. Here, there are however a couple of factors, which mean

Jupiter is not helpful. Firstly, his one wide benefic aspect cannot

counteract all the other maleficience in the chart. But even Jupiter is not

the great benefic here. Firstly he rules the sixth house and that brings a

tendency in him to cause disease. But also worse is the fact that

Sagittarius contains the Arudha of the eighth house, while Pisces contains

the Arudha in the sixth house. This means that Jupiter rules A6 and A8,

something that you will find in not beneficial in medical astrology. Further

he becomes the eighth Lord from the Atmakaraka/Chandra Lagna. Again, this is

not good. So Jupiter's beneficience is greatly curbed, and Jupiter acquires

a level of maleficience that allows him to cause disease to the child.

Whenever there are signs of disease, there should also be signs of

resistance. Here, they don't exist. There are three powerful signs of

resistance in a chart:

 

1. A strong Lagna and Lagna Lord.

2. Natural Benefics in direct motion in the kendras of a chart.

3. Natural malefics in the third, sixth and eleventh of a chart.

 

Here, none of these factors provide resistance, and hence the child was not

able to fight disease. So this is a very clear cut case of balarishta, and I

honestly think any Vedic astrologer could have seen that this child was not

going to live past his Sun dasa, if even that.

 

Thanks to Ilona for the data,

 

Pursottam

[Guest guest]

Dear Pursottam,

 

Would you be kind enough to send me the birth data of Leonard and Lena?

Somehow I missed this vital information.

 

Thank you .........Phyl

-

Pursottam <pursottam_dabasia

<gjlist>

Thursday, May 10, 2001 5:13 AM

RE: [gjlist] (unknown)

 

 

> Om Krishnaaya Namah

>

> Hi Liliana,

>

> > charts again. Has anybody had a look at Leonard's chart, and Lena

>

> I looked at Leonard's chart, but the first thing that struck me was that

> moving the TOB forward by two minutes makes balarishta much more easier to

> see, and hand-on-heart I can really say that with a Cancer Lagna, I would

> definitely have seen death within the first six years, if not any more

> specifically. So, let me mention the things I see in this chart.

>

> 1. The Lagna is in rashi sandhi, a factor that greatly weakens a chart and

> makes it susceptible to traumas.

>

> 2. The kendras of the horoscope which should ideally be occupied by

> benefics, are occupied by all the malefics. Rahu in Lagna, Mars in fourth,

> Mercury, Sun and Ketu in the seventh, and debilitated Saturn in the tenth.

> This forms an extremely potent and dangerous Sarpa Yoga. Rahu's placement

in

> the Lagna is even more dangerous than normal because he is:

>

> a) the co-lord of the eighth house in the rasi, co-lord of the

twenty-second

> drekkana, and co-lord of the sixty-fourth navamsha. These areas are

usually

> considered crucial in medical astrology.

>

> b) His nakshatra dispositor is Mercury, who is exactly combust, and is

> afflicted by every malefic in the chart.

>

> 3. The Moon is an extremely critical factor in balarishta charts. Here it

is

> especially important because it is the lagna Lord and also the Atmakaraka.

> At first glace it seems pretty OK in the chart, but looking deeper, we see

> firstly that Rahu is in the twelfth from the Moon, and casts an aspect

> within two degrees as per certain texts. Even if one does not accept this

> aspect of Rahu's, as per the Jataka Parijata Rahu in the twelfth from the

> Moon is not nice. Furthermore, by rasi drishti, the Moon is aspected by

five

> malefics - Sun, Mercury, Mars, Saturn and Ketu, the last being very tight.

> This is again detrimental. Finally it is interesting to note that with

> parallax correction, the Moon is two degrees away from it's mrtyu bhaga

> point (something that a number of classics make a big deal of in

balarishta

> yogas). While the distance is quite far and can't be as serious if it were

> nearer, it is an interesting thought that perhaps all the malefic

influences

> on the Moon may aggravate some of the MB tension.

>

> In the Navamsha, the Moon is again lagna Lord, this time debilitated, and

> aspected by Saturn and Rahu in terms of planetary aspect, and Sun and

> Mercury in sign aspects. Note also that again Saturn and Rahu are both

lords

> of the eighth house.

>

> The Sun plays a very important part in bringing death. First and foremost,

> it is a top maraka being the Lord of the second and being situated in the

> seventh. He is very afflicted by being in the sixth from Chandra Lagna,

> associated closely with dusthana Lord Mercury as well as Ketu and also

being

> aspected by Mars and Saturn. The Sun is also in mrtyu bhaga, and following

> the guidance given in the Jaimini Sutras, we even find that the Sun holds

> the post of "Rudra", one of the most destructive forces in the chart.

> Therefore the Sun's dasa was definitely going to bad for health/longevity

> matters especially as the Sun's nakshatra dispositor is the seventh and

> eighth Lord in debility. So, this chart is a very strong balarishta chart.

>

> > comented on them and also on the question of "powerful remedies for all

> > related to health" in Leonard's chart which failed to protect him.

>

> Some of these protective factors that are seen in the Gemini chart,

> disappear in the Cancer chart. The only one I see is a strong Jupiter

> aspecting the Lagna. Here, there are however a couple of factors, which

mean

> Jupiter is not helpful. Firstly, his one wide benefic aspect cannot

> counteract all the other maleficience in the chart. But even Jupiter is

not

> the great benefic here. Firstly he rules the sixth house and that brings a

> tendency in him to cause disease. But also worse is the fact that

> Sagittarius contains the Arudha of the eighth house, while Pisces contains

> the Arudha in the sixth house. This means that Jupiter rules A6 and A8,

> something that you will find in not beneficial in medical astrology.

Further

> he becomes the eighth Lord from the Atmakaraka/Chandra Lagna. Again, this

is

> not good. So Jupiter's beneficience is greatly curbed, and Jupiter

acquires

> a level of maleficience that allows him to cause disease to the child.

> Whenever there are signs of disease, there should also be signs of

> resistance. Here, they don't exist. There are three powerful signs of

> resistance in a chart:

>

> 1. A strong Lagna and Lagna Lord.

> 2. Natural Benefics in direct motion in the kendras of a chart.

> 3. Natural malefics in the third, sixth and eleventh of a chart.

>

> Here, none of these factors provide resistance, and hence the child was

not

> able to fight disease. So this is a very clear cut case of balarishta, and

I

> honestly think any Vedic astrologer could have seen that this child was

not

> going to live past his Sun dasa, if even that.

>

> Thanks to Ilona for the data,

>

> Pursottam

>

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Phyl,

Leonard was born on feb. 3rd 1999 in Bad Kreuznach, germany, at 15:26 PM,

ZONE 1

7E51, 49N52

 

Lena Amelie was born june 11th 1998 in Hannover, germany, at 14:05PM ZONE

1+1 DST

9E44 52N24

 

 

All regards concerning health and longvity are desired.

 

regards, Ilona

[Guest guest]

Dear Pursottam,

 

Thank You very much for this mail. I didn't see the wood for the trees.

 

Considering Lena's chart, and assuming that her TOB is correct, I can see

following afflictions:

- Both 1st lord and 3rd+8th lord are combust

- 1st lord conj. 8th lord

- Debilitated Saturn in the 8th

- "If a weak lagna lord is in a Kendra or Trikona, the person will have a

weak contitution and be sickly."(Sarvatha Chintamani 2/74)

- "Death will be instant at birth if Randhr Bhava (the 8th), Randhr's lord

and Vyaya Bhava (the 12th) are all conjunct malefics." (BPHS)

- Arishta Vrana Yoga: "The lord of the 6th house is a malefic and is placed

in the lagna, the 8th house or the 10th house." (Sarvatha Chintamani). The

person might suffer from ulcer, tumor or cancer.

- Born in Ketu/Mercury/Sun: Ketu activates its dispositor the debilitated

Saturn in the 8th; Mercury is the afflicted 1st lord; Sun is the 12th lord

afflicting both 1st and 8th lords.

- In Drekkana: Mars (3rd+8th lord) in lagna, 1st lord conjunct 12th lord and

Neptun, debilitated Saturn in the 8th.

- In Shashtiamsha: debilitated Sun in lagna, 1st+8th lord Venus debilitated

in the 12th

- In Trimshamsha: 1st lord conj. 12th lord

 

But in this chart we also see Hamsa Yoga and Gaja Kesari Yoga + Ketu in the

6th, which in Ketu Dasha should have given her resistence + Pluto in the 3rd

(I suppose we can consider Pluto a malefic?) + Privartana Yoga between the

8th and the 9th lords, which damages the 9th house, but brings positive

energy to the 8th, + the 9th lord in this case is Venus, and venus in the

8th is suppose to be good for life force and longevity.

The Moon is waning, but still bright, and has Dig Bala in the 4th, a Kendra.

So can this Moon be considered a benefic?

 

Please dear list members coment in this chart.

 

Love,

Liliana

 

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>Hi Liliana,

>

> > charts again. Has anybody had a look at Leonard's chart, and Lena

>

>I looked at Leonard's chart, but the first thing that struck me was that

>moving the TOB forward by two minutes makes balarishta much more easier to

>see, and hand-on-heart I can really say that with a Cancer Lagna, I would

>definitely have seen death within the first six years, if not any more

>specifically. So, let me mention the things I see in this chart.

>

>1. The Lagna is in rashi sandhi, a factor that greatly weakens a chart and

>makes it susceptible to traumas.

>

>2. The kendras of the horoscope which should ideally be occupied by

>benefics, are occupied by all the malefics. Rahu in Lagna, Mars in fourth,

>Mercury, Sun and Ketu in the seventh, and debilitated Saturn in the tenth.

>This forms an extremely potent and dangerous Sarpa Yoga. Rahu's placement

>in

>the Lagna is even more dangerous than normal because he is:

>

>a) the co-lord of the eighth house in the rasi, co-lord of the

>twenty-second

>drekkana, and co-lord of the sixty-fourth navamsha. These areas are usually

>considered crucial in medical astrology.

>

>b) His nakshatra dispositor is Mercury, who is exactly combust, and is

>afflicted by every malefic in the chart.

>

>3. The Moon is an extremely critical factor in balarishta charts. Here it

>is

>especially important because it is the lagna Lord and also the Atmakaraka.

>At first glace it seems pretty OK in the chart, but looking deeper, we see

>firstly that Rahu is in the twelfth from the Moon, and casts an aspect

>within two degrees as per certain texts. Even if one does not accept this

>aspect of Rahu's, as per the Jataka Parijata Rahu in the twelfth from the

>Moon is not nice. Furthermore, by rasi drishti, the Moon is aspected by

>five

>malefics - Sun, Mercury, Mars, Saturn and Ketu, the last being very tight.

>This is again detrimental. Finally it is interesting to note that with

>parallax correction, the Moon is two degrees away from it's mrtyu bhaga

>point (something that a number of classics make a big deal of in balarishta

>yogas). While the distance is quite far and can't be as serious if it were

>nearer, it is an interesting thought that perhaps all the malefic

>influences

>on the Moon may aggravate some of the MB tension.

>

>In the Navamsha, the Moon is again lagna Lord, this time debilitated, and

>aspected by Saturn and Rahu in terms of planetary aspect, and Sun and

>Mercury in sign aspects. Note also that again Saturn and Rahu are both

>lords

>of the eighth house.

>

>The Sun plays a very important part in bringing death. First and foremost,

>it is a top maraka being the Lord of the second and being situated in the

>seventh. He is very afflicted by being in the sixth from Chandra Lagna,

>associated closely with dusthana Lord Mercury as well as Ketu and also

>being

>aspected by Mars and Saturn. The Sun is also in mrtyu bhaga, and following

>the guidance given in the Jaimini Sutras, we even find that the Sun holds

>the post of "Rudra", one of the most destructive forces in the chart.

>Therefore the Sun's dasa was definitely going to bad for health/longevity

>matters especially as the Sun's nakshatra dispositor is the seventh and

>eighth Lord in debility. So, this chart is a very strong balarishta chart.

>

> > comented on them and also on the question of "powerful remedies for all

> > related to health" in Leonard's chart which failed to protect him.

>

>Some of these protective factors that are seen in the Gemini chart,

>disappear in the Cancer chart. The only one I see is a strong Jupiter

>aspecting the Lagna. Here, there are however a couple of factors, which

>mean

>Jupiter is not helpful. Firstly, his one wide benefic aspect cannot

>counteract all the other maleficience in the chart. But even Jupiter is not

>the great benefic here. Firstly he rules the sixth house and that brings a

>tendency in him to cause disease. But also worse is the fact that

>Sagittarius contains the Arudha of the eighth house, while Pisces contains

>the Arudha in the sixth house. This means that Jupiter rules A6 and A8,

>something that you will find in not beneficial in medical astrology.

>Further

>he becomes the eighth Lord from the Atmakaraka/Chandra Lagna. Again, this

>is

>not good. So Jupiter's beneficience is greatly curbed, and Jupiter acquires

>a level of maleficience that allows him to cause disease to the child.

>Whenever there are signs of disease, there should also be signs of

>resistance. Here, they don't exist. There are three powerful signs of

>resistance in a chart:

>

>1. A strong Lagna and Lagna Lord.

>2. Natural Benefics in direct motion in the kendras of a chart.

>3. Natural malefics in the third, sixth and eleventh of a chart.

>

>Here, none of these factors provide resistance, and hence the child was not

>able to fight disease. So this is a very clear cut case of balarishta, and

>I

>honestly think any Vedic astrologer could have seen that this child was not

>going to live past his Sun dasa, if even that.

>

>Thanks to Ilona for the data,

>

>Pursottam

>

>

>

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>

>

>

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Welcome to the group. We would welcome your views on astrological tenets.

 

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In a message dated 5/19/2001 5:30:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

astrology writes:

 

<< Suffering from Diabetes. Any remedy o cure can be suggested. >>

Dear Ravinder,

I hope you will receive many helpful replies. This is one thing I

recall from reading Edgar Cayce files: Jerusalem artichoke, which is the root

of a daisy-like flower (the root looks similar to ginger root that is found

in grocery stores), is a natural source of insulin, said Edgar Cayce. It can

be cut into pieces and cooked and eaten like potato.

 

I bought one of these Jerusalem artichoke roots from the

fresh-vegetables section of our grocery store and planted it in the ground,

about 20 years ago, to see what the flower looked like. It was a medium

height, rangy, daisy-like flower. The plant multiplied like a weed back

there in our sandy Florida soil. On occasion I see this root advertised in

the store as "Sunchoke" since it is acxtually a member of the sunflower

family.

 

Best to you,

Carol

[Guest guest]

>So they ate a lot of fish and certain kinds of fish have natural

>dopamine. When these same people move inland and dont have the "dopamine/

>GLA rich fish to eat then they suffer. Because their natural diet is not

>being provided.

 

Dear Donna,

 

Yes, this is what the research is saying.

 

Some of those whose ancestors ate a diet rich in the essential fatty acids

that cold, deep water, fish provide, have eventually lost their ability, to

a more or lessor extent, to manufacture these fatty acids from plant and

other sources.These EFAs are important precursors in the production and

release of dopamine.

 

And isn't it great that we know this now, and have many ways to help!

 

Namaste'

 

[Guest guest]

Better still, Ravinder, there's a KP list. Someone posted the address here

a couple of weeks ago. I tried to get on and couldn't (technical) but would

like to try again, if anyone knows it.

 

Julia

 

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> Dear sisters and brothers,

>

> Does anybody knows of any KP site ?

>

> Love

>

> RG

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

What happened to the e-mail I sent you about Shiv Chadha and Sanjay Rath's

book?

Julia

 

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<gjlist>

Sunday, October 07, 2001 3:17 PM

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> Can anybody give me the email address of Shiv Chadda who is selling

Sanjay RAth's new book, 'Narayana Dasa'

>

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>

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>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi C,

Hi K! Thanks for looking at my chart. This was very helpful so I appreciate you taking the time.

Here are a few thoughts on your chart:

I don't like doing "death" charts, though I have a

collection of them. I wouldn't like to comment on your

father's death as I am not really sure. What does

strike me is that Jupiter would be Marakesh from 10th

house, and eighth ruler from 9th house. So the Jupiter

Dasha could have proved fatal in that respect.

Okay, so you're saying that if you take Jupiter and count eight away from it,

this could mean death to the person represented by the house. When that planet

is activated by dasha then it could activate that event. Yes?

You got married for the first time in the period of

your Sade Sati, Saturn in your chart is strong and

well-placed, as well as retrograde. Jupiter was in

Capricorn, transited 2nd house of Family. Jupiter is

Lagnesh and 4th house ruler. Venus was transiting your

7th house, hence the marriage did take place. You were

running Jupiter dasha, and Rahu antardasha at the

time. Rahu and Ketu are both strong in your chart, and

hence will give noticeable results. Rahu is placed in

the 7th house. 7th and 10th lord Mercury is placed in

Venus Navamsa, which is a malefic for Sagittarius

ascendant. Add a Sade Sati, a weak Jupiter, and you

get negative results.

Lol, see this is where I get confused. You have my birth chart, and then in

order to read the dasha results, are you reading the Navamsa chart? Also if

venus navamsha is malefic for Sagittarius, does that make venus malefic for

anything I do and also does it make it malefic for any marriages because Rahu

is in the seventh house?

Your second marriage was in Saturn Dasha, Mercury

Antardasha. I take the 9th house for second spouse. A

strong Saturn, seventh from 9th house ensured the

marriage. Note that Saturn and Mercury are both Maraka

for 9th house. Venus is in opposition to a strong

Saturn and in Mercury's Navamsa, so no surprises

there.

Okay I think I get that. The second spouse is not afflicted in the same way the first one was?

It is easy to deduce from your chart alone, that you

have a son, because though Jupiter is weak, it is

conjunct 5th lord Mars in Navamsa. Mars is exalted in

Navamsa. Note that you were running Ketu Antardasha

when your son was born, and Ketu is fifth from 9th

house. Ketu's dispositor is Jupiter, so we can safely

conclude male progeny.

Is Navamsha a more relevant chart for events in the life? It seems like you're

looking at the transit in the birthchart and the dasha and then deducing the

positive and negative effects from the planets in Navamsha?

I hope this is satisfactory, do tell me what you

think. Here's a question, do you have some problem

related to the eyes? And, in an earlier mail, you said

your husband had a job relating to short journeys.

Well, third house from 9th contains Moon and is

indicative of lots of short journeys for your second

spouse:) Does he have a sister, by the way?

. I think you're much better at this than me, that's what I think. I do not

have any problem relating to my eyes, but I do have a lot of problems. I'm

surprised that you said Jupiter is weak because I thought I remembered that the

only weak planet in my chart was the moon -- I guess I have to go and look at

that part again. Now, you said I had a strong Saturn...so if a planet is strong

does that mean it's a planet that gives mostly good results? Or if it's strong

does it give strong good and bad results depending on the transits?

. Yes, my husband was a truck driver and spends most of his time driving

anyway now that he works for the same transportation company in management. He

lives in his car pretty much. And he does have a sister who is much older than

he is and took care of him when he was young.

So I want to ask you...the dasha that I'm in right now...Saturn/

Rahu/Venus/Moon, according to what you've said, should be pretty bad since

Saturn and Rahu are strong and Venus is a malefic to my lagna and the moon is

weak? Truthfully when I look at my chart it seems like all my planets are bad.

What do you think?

c

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Hi C,

 

I don't do any interpretaton without reading the Navamsa. I read the Moon chart,

the natal chart and the Navamsa. In cases where the Sun is strong, I also see

the Sun chart. The Navamsa is important for the strength of planets, as well as

knowing whether significations of the planets and houses are going to prosper. A

Mars-Saturn conjunction in 10th house of Navamsa can show serious problems at

place of work, or related to father.

 

I look at Dashas, Antardashas and Bhuktis alongwith transits. I don't depend only on Dashas.

 

Venus is malefic for Sagittarius, as it is Lord of Upachaya houses 6 and 11. Now

the lord of 7th and 10th, Mercury is placed in Venus Navamsha. This means Venus

will have a role to play in the houses owned by Mercury. Which means 6th lord

in 7th house, which is bad for any marriage.

 

Saturn is strong in your chart and it will give strong good and bad results

depending on the transits. I wouldn't call the Moon in your chart weak, but

since it is 8th lord, its good that it is not powerful either:) Jupiter in 6th

house in Venus ruled rasi doesnot help him much, and to make things worse,

Jupiter in Navamsa is in Capricorn in 8th. So yes, Jupiter is weak and badly

placed. The Saturn/Rahu/Sun period will be much better for you.

 

Glad to know that your husband travels regularly, and also that he has a sister.

Its good to see Vedic principles proving themselves again and again.

 

Regards,

K.

Lol, see this is where I get confused. You have my birth chart, and then in

order to read the dasha results, are you reading the Navamsa chart? Also if

venus navamsha is malefic for Sagittarius, does that make venus malefic for

anything I do and also does it make it malefic for any marriages because Rahu

is in the seventh house? Okay I think I get that. The second spouse is not

afflicted in the same way the first one was? Is Navamsha a more relevant chart

for events in the life? It seems like you're looking at the transit in the

birthchart and the dasha and then deducing the positive and negative effects

from the planets in Navamsha?

. I think you're much better at this than me, that's what I think. I do not

have any problem relating to my eyes, but I do have a lot of problems. I'm

surprised that you said Jupiter is weak because I thought I remembered that the

only weak planet in my chart was the moon -- I guess I have to go and look at

that part again. Now, you said I had a strong Saturn...so if a planet is strong

does that mean it's a planet that gives mostly good results? Or if it's strong

does it give strong good and bad results depending on the transits? So I want

to ask you...the dasha that I'm in right now...Saturn/ Rahu/Venus/Moon,

according to what you've said, should be pretty bad since Saturn and Rahu are

strong and Venus is a malefic to my lagna and the moon is weak? Truthfully when

I look at my chart it seems like all my planets are bad. What do you think? c

[Guest guest]

Dear List,

 

Kundalika, you wrote:

 

>>>Your second marriage was in Saturn Dasha, Mercury

Antardasha. I take the 9th house for second spouse.

 

Long ago on this list Das gave his thoughts on where to see second and if

necessary more marriages. I haven't seen much on it for some time. Could

others please give which house they see and use for second marriage? I have

been using the 2nd house (as 8th from 7th house and the logic was end of the

first marriage). Kundalika, why do you take 9th house for second spouse?

Third from 7th, so brother/sister of first marriage?

 

Also, in some situations there have been relationships that although there

was no marriage there have been children. As far as Karakas for a specific

marriage for timing or to see the nature of that marriage would you count a

relationship involving children basically as a marriage and then go 8th from

the 2nd house, if this is correct using the 2nd house? So, third 'marriage'

would be in 8th house?

 

In looking at Calla's chart, she was in Sa/Me at the time of the 2nd

marriage. Saturn ruling her 2nd house and Mercury owning the 7th house now

used as Karaka for marriage rather than the marriage itself as in her first

marriage. Also on the day of her second marriage, Rahu in 7H in natal chart

transiting in her 2H and Saturn transiting first house. Also, Venus is

transiting natal Mercury in her 10th house Scorpio, Mars is natally

aspecting her 2nd house from the 8th.

 

Many thanks to clarify what others use for second marriage.

 

Best regards,

Patrice

[Guest guest]

Hi Patrice,

 

There is a distinction between spouse and marriage. 2nd house denotes death

of spouse. Also, how do you assume that the first marriage has ended? Bigamy

was outlawed only in recent times, as compared to 5000 years of Vedic

astrology. Bin Laden and co. still have more than one wife. I also know of

cases where people are in an extra-marital relationship and maintaining a

marriage at the same time. In this context, it is safer to assume third from

7th, as in sibling, yes, because it is a competition for the affection of a

single person.

 

To tell you honestly, I had become so used to assuming ninth for second

spouse, that while analysing Calla's chart, I simply didn't stop and think

why. When I start reading a chart, I just let my intuition guide me, and

then the chart starts talking to me. In fact the analysis I did was just

done like that, in a single chain of thought, and put forward in the mail.

 

I have to thank you for making me go back to the basics, and remember why I

do something. There is a book I read some seven or eight years back, that

clearly stated why the ninth is for second spouse, but I can't remember its

name, or even the language it was in. When I do remember, I'll tell you.

 

But again, often the 7th house alone does all the talking, you don't have to

look any place else. Then there is the position of planets in the Moon chart

and from Venus as well. Now I think, I must have been drawn to Venus in

ninth in Calla's chart as well when interpreting for second spouse. I guess

its all a matter of personal experience, we should all follow what works for

us.

 

Regards,

K.

 

 

 

-

"Patrice Curry" <patrice.curry

 

> first marriage). Kundalika, why do you take 9th house for second spouse?

> Third from 7th, so brother/sister of first marriage?

>

> Many thanks to clarify what others use for second marriage.

>

> Best regards,

> Patrice

 

 

 

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--- KISHEN UCHIL <kishy_99 wrote:

>

> can some one please tell me what my future will be

> like (career,marriage etc...)

> the following is my chart:

>

> d.o.b : 11/18/1978, at 01:55:00

>

> Vedic Astrology Weekday (Sunrise to Sunrise): Friday

> Calendar Weekday: Saturday

> Lahiri: 23:33:47

> mumbai MAH India

> 72 E 50 18 N 58

> Standard Time Hours from Greenwich: -5.50

>

>

>

> RASI chart

>

> *************************************************

> * 8* 9* 10* 11*

> * * * * *

> * ketu * * * *

> * Pi* Ar* Ta* moon Ge*

> *************************************************

> * 7* * 12*

> * * * jup *

> * * * *

> * Aq* * Ca*

> ************* *************

> * 6* * 1*

> * * * LAG *

> * * * saturn *

> * Cp* * Le*

> *************************************************

> * 5* 4* 3* rahu 2*

> * * merc * uranus * pluto *

> * * sun,mars * venus * *

> * Sa* Sc* Li* Vi*

> *************************************************

>

>

> Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras

>

--------------------

> Ascendant Leo 22° 49’ Purvaphalguni

> Sun Scorpio 1° 34’ Visakha

> Moon Gemini 6° 30’ Mrgashira

> Mars Scorpio 17° 53’ Jyestha

> Mercury Scorpio 23° 54’ Jyestha

> Jupiter Cancer 15° 23’ Pushya

> Venus R Libra 16° 6’ Swati

> Saturn Leo 19° 8’ Purvaphalguni

> Rahu Virgo 1° 8’ Uttaraphalgun

> Ketu Pisces 1° 8’ Purvabhadrapa

>

>

> Navamsa Chart

>

> *************************************************

> * 6* 7* 8* 9*

> * * * * *

> * * * * *

> * Pi* Ar* Ta* Ge*

> *************************************************

> * 5* * SUN 10*

> * * * KET *

> * * * *

> * VEN MER Aq* * Ca*

> ************* *************

> * 4* * 11*

> * * * *

> * * * *

> * RAH Cp* * Le*

> *************************************************

> * 3* MOO 2* LAG 1* SAT 12*

> * * JUP * * *

> * * * * *

> * MAR Sa* Sc* Li* Vi*

> *************************************************

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I found -3hours for today's date, it might be different for the day you are

looking for.

 

I searched the ACS atlas

 

cynthia

 

 

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Saturday, May 11, 2002 4:12 PM

[GJ] (unknown)

 

 

> Dear sir/madam,

> Please can anybody help me to find the correct time zone

for

> Uganda. Some software tells me it it 2.75 and others tell me it is 3.00.

> Please could you tell me which is correct.

> At the moment i am trying to create a chart for a town in Uganda called

> Pallisa. The lattitude is 1 N 10 and the longittude is 33 E 43.

>

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Dear Anand and Cynthia,

 

standard time of 3.00 east is used since 1st January 1957. Before that local

mean time of 41E15 was used.

Source: Astrodienst.

 

Regards

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Sunday, May 12, 2002 12:19 AM

Re: [GJ] (unknown)

 

 

> I found -3hours for today's date, it might be different for the day you

are

> looking for.

>

> I searched the ACS atlas

>

> cynthia

>

>

> -

> Anand Nisang <anand_nisang

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> [GJ] (unknown)

>

>

> > Dear sir/madam,

> > Please can anybody help me to find the correct time zone

> for

> > Uganda. Some software tells me it it 2.75 and others tell me it is 3.00.

> > Please could you tell me which is correct.

> > At the moment i am trying to create a chart for a town in Uganda called

> > Pallisa. The lattitude is 1 N 10 and the longittude is 33 E 43.

> >

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> >

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>"Anand Nisang" <anand_nisang

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>[GJ] (unknown)

>Sat, 11 May 2002 21:12:48 +0000

>

>Dear sir/madam,

> Please can anybody help me to find the correct time zone

>for

>Uganda. Some software tells me it it 2.75 and others tell me it is 3.00.

>Please could you tell me which is correct.

>At the moment i am trying to create a chart for a town in Uganda called

>Pallisa. The lattitude is 1 N 10 and the longittude is 33 E 43.

>

>I am waiting for your reply

>

>Thankyou

>

>

>

>

>

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Pallisa, UG 1 n 10 33 e 42

 

 

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Monday, May 13, 2002 9:39 AM

Fwd: [GJ] (unknown)

 

 

>

>

>

> >"Anand Nisang" <anand_nisang

> >gjlist

> >gjlist

> >[GJ] (unknown)

> >Sat, 11 May 2002 21:12:48 +0000

> >

> >Dear sir/madam,

> > Please can anybody help me to find the correct time zone

> >for

> >Uganda. Some software tells me it it 2.75 and others tell me it is 3.00.

> >Please could you tell me which is correct.

> >At the moment i am trying to create a chart for a town in Uganda called

> >Pallisa. The lattitude is 1 N 10 and the longittude is 33 E 43.

> >

> >I am waiting for your reply

> >

> >Thankyou

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >_______________

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Dear Anand

 

Before you practice jyotish you must have at hand a very important tool

i.e.Time Zone Changes.A reasonably good reference is TIME CHANGES IN THE

WORLD by DORIS CHASE DOANE it is a reliable document constantly being

updated otherwise there is a software program TMATLAS I dont know by

whom.Otherwise you will be only getting half answers by sincere enthusiasts

who are doing their best to help you.A lot of astrology programs may not

have the most accurate data you have to check it out.

 

Time Zone History for Uganda:

All Changes at Midnight:

Before Jul 1st 1928 LMT (Local Mean Time)

1928 Jul 1st 1928 at 0.00hrs changed to-BGT,-3.00hrs

1930 Jan 1st 1930 at 0.00hrs changed to-KET- -2.30hrs

1948 Jan 1st 1948 at 0.00hrs changed to-Z02- -2.45hrs

1957 Jan 1st 1957 at 0.00hrs changed to-BGT- -3.00hrs

 

Hope this helps.Good luck.God Bless.

 

Love and Regards

S Purushothaman

-

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<gjlist>

Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:39 AM

Fwd: [GJ] (unknown)

 

 

>

>

>

> >"Anand Nisang" <anand_nisang

> >gjlist

> >gjlist

> >[GJ] (unknown)

> >Sat, 11 May 2002 21:12:48 +0000

> >

> >Dear sir/madam,

> > Please can anybody help me to find the correct time zone

> >for

> >Uganda. Some software tells me it it 2.75 and others tell me it is 3.00.

> >Please could you tell me which is correct.

> >At the moment i am trying to create a chart for a town in Uganda called

> >Pallisa. The lattitude is 1 N 10 and the longittude is 33 E 43.

> >

> >I am waiting for your reply

> >

> >Thankyou

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Om Namo Narayanaya,

What a nice name-Krishna Prasad,

Dashamsa lagna as all lagnas in divisional charts stand for the self

in the terms of that area, so that is the Person in Professional Field.

However, dashamsa is the chart of the karma, not only the profession, yet

it is beyond this short reference. So firstly,

1.Examine dashamsa Lagna, to see all about your professional aspects,

such as inclinations, happiness, choice etc.

2. Examine 10th house which stands for professional aspects. Artha

Trikona, namely that is 10th, 2nd and 6th as well as strongest graha in

those houses will determine the choice of career

3. Grahas in 4th house (aspecting 10th), or 7th house (natural pada

of 10th ) will also tend to infleunce the career

4. 6th stands for service while 7th for business. Whichever is stronger

will determine the choice or preference to own business or service.

5. All other graha/bhava information may be used. For example

strong 5th house could infleunce the teaching or councelling or other 5th

house significations, etc.

6. 8th house signifies debts and ending of profession (retirement),

unless person is involved in 8th house profession such is insurance, banking,

medical aspect or inherited business. 8th house will otherwise indicate

serious losses in business

7.Later on you may correlate the Rashi chart with Dashamsa, examining

lagna lord from rashi, 10th lord from rashi or karakas in dashamsa

Thats is for a start, see it yourself and try to determine your

profession

Best wishes

Zoran

krishnaPrasad wrote:

Can any one please tell me how to read Dashamsa

Chart,is it same like reading rasi chart or is there

any difference from it.

regards

prasad

 

 

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Thanks Zoran.

 

I would request you to explain me little more about my

dashamsa chart.

My Dashamsa chart is as follows.

Lagna is in Aries.

I have Jupiter,Venus,Saturn in cancer i.e in 4th

house.

Mercury,Ketu in virgo i.e in 6th..

Sun,Mars in scorpio i.e in 8th house

Moon in Saggitarius i.e in 9th house.

Rahu in Pisces i.e in 12th house.

 

My Rasi chart is as follows.

Lagna is in cancer.

Mars,Jupiter,Ketu in virgo i.e in 3rd house.

Sun,Mercury in scorpio i.e in 5th house.

venus in saggitarius in 6th house.

Saturn,Rahu and Moon in pisces in 9th house.

 

Thanks&Regards

 

prasad.

 

 

 

 

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Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Prasad,

Since this is the primarily learning forum, do try to analyze dashamsa in

order to learn more. I will pick up your traits, and guide you in the

process. Use the guidelines I 've given. Birthtime must be accurate, or

dashamsa will have to be corrected. Look at a few hints:

 

> Thanks Zoran.

>

> I would request you to explain me little more about my

> dashamsa chart.

> My Dashamsa chart is as follows.

> Lagna is in Aries.

> I have Jupiter,Venus,Saturn in cancer i.e in 4th

> house.

>

 

Exalted Guru with Shani is dharmakarma Yoga and good work and deeds. Guru

indicates service in the state institutions. Shukra will tend to bring own

business or private sector, and a major change may occur, due to the

parivarthana of Guru and Chandra. Budha and Ketu in 6th indicate service in

communication area or much use of the same, as well as hands and dexterity.

 

> Mercury,Ketu in virgo i.e in 6th..

> Sun,Mars in scorpio i.e in 8th house

 

Bad for private sector, indicates loans. Good for banking/medical etc

Now go on, and do your own analyses. If these info of my makes no sense, than

we should consider the change of lagna

Best wishes

Zoran

 

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Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

mails: ahimsa

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>Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:00:16 +0000

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>

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Please post your data, including time zone and map

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--- Neeraj VilashRaj <cliffatsea wrote:

> I have a problem with my chart

> is there anybody who can help me with this

> Asc - sagittarius

> 2 house - ketu

> 8 house - rahu,Mars

> 9 house - Sun

> 10 th house - Jup,sat,venus,mercury

> 12th house - moon

>

> accoriding to the chart

> Sun is exalted in leo

>

> however these days when i am undergoing Mercury's

> Mahadasa and Sun's Antardasha ; both of which are

> exalted in there houses i am having probably what is

> the worst time of my life i have seen .

>

> Noticeable is the fact that there is a Kalasarpa

> Yoga

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