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Dear DharmaDevji

 

Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline? Is

this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could not

find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of the

Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be very

individual...

I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get right

now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at #3643

and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the horoscope

readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

them. What would be your fee?

 

Thanks,

Ole

 

 

 

, "ShiningLotus"

<shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

>

> Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice with

RudraAbhishekam is perfect

>

> Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the initial

40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing of

the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

Beads

>

> is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day where

many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take place

that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the day

of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and continue

the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

Ashley Farrand

>

> Thanks and Take Care My Friend

>

> Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

>

> DharmaDev

>

> rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

>

<>

> Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> RBSC : 40 days discipline

>

>

> dear darmadevaji

>

> om namah shivaya and pranams,

>

> i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while wearing

the

> holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra centre

> aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the puja

> and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40 days

> dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi mala

> and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

would

> like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart from

> what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

effect

> cannot be expressed in words.

>

> i would like you to enlighten more on this.

>

> om namah shivaya

>

>

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

> To send an email to: -

 

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

>

>

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I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

comes back online.

 

I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed in

scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard for

both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali cultures.

Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

 

I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it takes

about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that malas

not be "swapped around."

 

Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower mukhi

for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13, without

any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s and

16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

 

Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

 

Take all the very best care, Kari

 

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

> Dear DharmaDevji

>

> Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline? Is

> this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could not

> find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

the

> Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be very

> individual...

> I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

right

> now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at #3643

> and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the horoscope

> readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> them. What would be your fee?

>

> Thanks,

> Ole

>

>

>

> , "ShiningLotus"

> <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> >

> > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice with

> RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> >

> > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the initial

> 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing of

> the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> Beads

> >

> > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

where

> many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take place

> that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

day

> of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and continue

> the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> Ashley Farrand

> >

> > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> >

> > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> >

> > DharmaDev

> >

> > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> >

> <>

> > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> >

> >

> > dear darmadevaji

> >

> > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> >

> > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while wearing

> the

> > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra centre

> > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the puja

> > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40 days

> > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

mala

> > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> would

> > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart from

> > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> effect

> > cannot be expressed in words.

> >

> > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> >

> > om namah shivaya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to: -

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Kari,

 

Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question was for

all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him who

originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I appreciate

insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

recommendations and check any online resources.

Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre Website..?

 

This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a crucial

subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem therapy; the

frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad, if we

feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the deeper

knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative" effects

are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further insights

into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

 

Thanks!

 

Love, Ole

 

, "karisprowl"

<karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> comes back online.

>

> I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

in

> scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

for

> both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

cultures.

> Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

>

> I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

takes

> about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

malas

> not be "swapped around."

>

> Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

mukhi

> for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

without

> any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

and

> 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

>

> Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

>

> Take all the very best care, Kari

>

>

> , "alstrup"

> <alstrup> wrote:

> > Dear DharmaDevji

> >

> > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

Is

> > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

not

> > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> the

> > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

very

> > individual...

> > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> right

> > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

#3643

> > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

horoscope

> > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > them. What would be your fee?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Ole

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In

, "ShiningLotus"

> > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > >

> > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

with

> > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > >

> > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

initial

> > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

of

> > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > Beads

> > >

> > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> where

> > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

place

> > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> day

> > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

continue

> > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > Ashley Farrand

> > >

> > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > >

> > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > >

> > > DharmaDev

> > >

> > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > >

> > <>

> > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > >

> > >

> > > dear darmadevaji

> > >

> > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > >

> > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

wearing

> > the

> > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

centre

> > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

puja

> > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

days

> > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> mala

> > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > would

> > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

from

> > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > effect

> > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > >

> > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > >

> > > om namah shivaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sponsor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to: -

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Terms of

> > Service.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I just had a COSMIC insight - to also search the database of past

postings here - and I already found several answers from DDji!

Missed the forest because of all the trees! Silly little me! Lol. :-)

 

Ole

 

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

> Dear Kari,

>

> Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question was for

> all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him who

> originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I appreciate

> insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> recommendations and check any online resources.

> Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre Website..?

>

> This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a crucial

> subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

> Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem therapy;

the

> frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad, if we

> feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the deeper

> knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative" effects

> are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further insights

> into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Love, Ole

>

> , "karisprowl"

> <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

he

> > comes back online.

> >

> > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

addressed

> in

> > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

> for

> > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> cultures.

> > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

up.

> >

> > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

beads'

> > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

> takes

> > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> malas

> > not be "swapped around."

> >

> > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> mukhi

> > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

any "jarring"

> > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> without

> > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

Some

> > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

> and

> > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> >

> > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> >

> > Take all the very best care, Kari

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Didnt mean to imply that I dont appreciate personal replies to

enquiries! ;-)

 

Thanks,

 

Love, Ole

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

>

>

> I just had a COSMIC insight - to also search the database of past

> postings here - and I already found several answers from DDji!

> Missed the forest because of all the trees! Silly little me!

Lol. :-)

>

> Ole

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Hey, Ole!

 

It IS mentioned on the Rudra Center w/s. I just saw it, a few hours

ago, when I did a Google search. I don't know WHERE on the w/s,

because I didn't think to check it out-- I just noticed the URL. When

I have a minute, I will look it up, again, for you.

 

Now, I'm a woman. I like sparkly gems (I think it's hard-wired into

the x-genes <g>). I'm sitting here, looking at the pretty jewels I

REPLACED with rudraksham. The reason why I replaced the gems with the

beads is that I found rudraksha therapy to be a little better than gem

therapy, at least, for me. You can wear the wrong gem, but you can't

wear the wrong rudraksha. They can't do harm.

 

I found out about wearing the wrong gem the hard way, when a Jyotishi

miscalculated my lagna <g>. Things got kinda weird, for awhile, there.

 

Also, I found the energy impact a little more dramatic with the

rudraksham than with the jewels. It was easire for me to FEEL the

changes the beads were making. So, I made the switch.

 

I think you are right in your theory that any perceived negative

effects are transitory, and are a result of "melding." The beads are

sort of "tuning" your nervous system, and "becoming part of you," if

that makes any sense. They raise your vibrational level. There might

be a tad bit of discomfort, but it won't be much, and it won't last

long.

 

Here's an example of a transitory effect. The first few days, when I

wore them to bed, I felt a lot of heat in my neck. Though a tad

uncomfortable, I found it very reassuring-- it meant that the beads

were starting to work. Then, as the beads and I shared energies, the

heat effect went away. it took maybe a week.

 

And, Kantiji and DDji have told the occasional funny story about

initially having a hard time walking, chewing gum, and wearing a 15 or

higher, at the same time. <g>

 

Enjoy your journey, knowing fully that the beads can do you nothing

but good. Look forward to your 40 days, and 90 days, and the rest of

your life, knowing that you are becoming more and more who you really

are meant to be every, single minute. Enjoy the beauty, and the love,

and the little mircles that you will begin to see all around you all

of the time.(the Gods have a WONDERFUL sense of humor, BTW) <g>. Wear

the beads, cherish them, annoint them, meditate on them, and befriend

them. They really are living jewels and tangeable manifestations of

Dieties. It's been almost a year, for me, and it never gets old, or

stale. Not for a minute. Always remember, you are wearing a tangeable

piece of the immense and umimaginable love of the God/dess/es around

your neck all the time. It's the very best armour that you can have,

in this rough and primitive "school."

 

And, do, please meditate every day. Twice, if you can. It makes it

even better and faster.

 

I'm not very sophisticated, but I'm fairly intuitive. I know that you

were meant to wear the beads.

 

With much love, Kari

 

 

 

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

> Dear Kari,

>

> Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question was for

> all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him who

> originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I appreciate

> insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> recommendations and check any online resources.

> Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre Website..?

>

> This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a crucial

> subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

> Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem therapy; the

> frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad, if we

> feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the deeper

> knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative" effects

> are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further insights

> into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Love, Ole

>

> , "karisprowl"

> <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> > comes back online.

> >

> > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

> in

> > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

> for

> > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> cultures.

> > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

> >

> > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

> takes

> > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> malas

> > not be "swapped around."

> >

> > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> mukhi

> > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> without

> > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

> and

> > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> >

> > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> >

> > Take all the very best care, Kari

> >

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > >

> > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

> Is

> > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

> not

> > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> > the

> > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

> very

> > > individual...

> > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > right

> > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

> #3643

> > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> horoscope

> > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > > them. What would be your fee?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> , "ShiningLotus"

> > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> with

> > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > >

> > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> initial

> > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

> of

> > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > > Beads

> > > >

> > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > where

> > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> place

> > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> > day

> > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> continue

> > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > > Ashley Farrand

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > >

> > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > >

> > > > DharmaDev

> > > >

> > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > >

> > > <>

> > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > >

> > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> wearing

> > > the

> > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> centre

> > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

> puja

> > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> days

> > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> > mala

> > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > > would

> > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

> from

> > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > > effect

> > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > >

> > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sponsor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > To send an email to: -

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Terms of

> > > Service.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dearest Kari,

 

Thanks so much for your blessed letter! Well, what can i say other

than it takes a woman like YOU to finally convince me! :-) May the

Devatas kindly bless me soon through the manifestation of

Rudraksham.

 

Much love!

 

Ole

 

, "karisprowl"

<karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> Hey, Ole!

>

> It IS mentioned on the Rudra Center w/s. I just saw it, a few

hours

> ago, when I did a Google search. I don't know WHERE on the w/s,

> because I didn't think to check it out-- I just noticed the URL.

When

> I have a minute, I will look it up, again, for you.

>

> Now, I'm a woman. I like sparkly gems (I think it's hard-wired

into

> the x-genes <g>). I'm sitting here, looking at the pretty jewels I

> REPLACED with rudraksham. The reason why I replaced the gems with

the

> beads is that I found rudraksha therapy to be a little better than

gem

> therapy, at least, for me. You can wear the wrong gem, but you

can't

> wear the wrong rudraksha. They can't do harm.

>

> I found out about wearing the wrong gem the hard way, when a

Jyotishi

> miscalculated my lagna <g>. Things got kinda weird, for awhile,

there.

>

> Also, I found the energy impact a little more dramatic with the

> rudraksham than with the jewels. It was easire for me to FEEL the

> changes the beads were making. So, I made the switch.

>

> I think you are right in your theory that any perceived negative

> effects are transitory, and are a result of "melding." The beads

are

> sort of "tuning" your nervous system, and "becoming part of you,"

if

> that makes any sense. They raise your vibrational level. There

might

> be a tad bit of discomfort, but it won't be much, and it won't

last

> long.

>

> Here's an example of a transitory effect. The first few days, when

I

> wore them to bed, I felt a lot of heat in my neck. Though a tad

> uncomfortable, I found it very reassuring-- it meant that the

beads

> were starting to work. Then, as the beads and I shared energies,

the

> heat effect went away. it took maybe a week.

>

> And, Kantiji and DDji have told the occasional funny story about

> initially having a hard time walking, chewing gum, and wearing a

15 or

> higher, at the same time. <g>

>

> Enjoy your journey, knowing fully that the beads can do you

nothing

> but good. Look forward to your 40 days, and 90 days, and the rest

of

> your life, knowing that you are becoming more and more who you

really

> are meant to be every, single minute. Enjoy the beauty, and the

love,

> and the little mircles that you will begin to see all around you

all

> of the time.(the Gods have a WONDERFUL sense of humor, BTW) <g>.

Wear

> the beads, cherish them, annoint them, meditate on them, and

befriend

> them. They really are living jewels and tangeable manifestations

of

> Dieties. It's been almost a year, for me, and it never gets old,

or

> stale. Not for a minute. Always remember, you are wearing a

tangeable

> piece of the immense and umimaginable love of the God/dess/es

around

> your neck all the time. It's the very best armour that you can

have,

> in this rough and primitive "school."

>

> And, do, please meditate every day. Twice, if you can. It makes it

> even better and faster.

>

> I'm not very sophisticated, but I'm fairly intuitive. I know that

you

> were meant to wear the beads.

>

> With much love, Kari

>

>

>

>

> , "alstrup"

> <alstrup> wrote:

> > Dear Kari,

> >

> > Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question was

for

> > all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him who

> > originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I

appreciate

> > insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> > recommendations and check any online resources.

> > Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre Website..?

> >

> > This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a crucial

> > subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

> > Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem therapy;

the

> > frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad, if we

> > feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the deeper

> > knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative"

effects

> > are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> > neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further

insights

> > into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Love, Ole

> >

> > , "karisprowl"

> > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

he

> > > comes back online.

> > >

> > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

addressed

> > in

> > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

standard

> > for

> > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > cultures.

> > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

engine,

> > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

up.

> > >

> > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

beads'

> > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like

it

> > takes

> > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

one's

> > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

days.

> > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> > malas

> > > not be "swapped around."

> > >

> > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> > mukhi

> > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

any "jarring"

> > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> > without

> > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

Some

> > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing

15s

> > and

> > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > >

> > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > >

> > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > > , "alstrup"

> > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > >

> > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

discipline?

> > Is

> > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

could

> > not

> > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

specific

> > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

bad

> > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

wearing of

> > > the

> > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

Are

> > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

with

> > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must

be

> > very

> > > > individual...

> > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to

get

> > > right

> > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings

at

> > #3643

> > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > horoscope

> > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

look at

> > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Ole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> > with

> > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > >

> > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> > initial

> > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

balanceing

> > of

> > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

Mukhi

> > > > Beads

> > > > >

> > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a

day

> > > where

> > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> > place

> > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is

the

> > > day

> > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > continue

> > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is

same

> > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

Thomas

> > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > >

> > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > >

> > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > >

> > > > <>

> > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> > wearing

> > > > the

> > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> > centre

> > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

the

> > puja

> > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> > days

> > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

5mukhi

> > > mala

> > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

necklace i

> > > > would

> > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

apart

> > from

> > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

the

> > > > effect

> > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > >

> > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > To send an email to:

-

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Terms

of

> > > > Service.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portio

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Thank you SO much for your kind and beautiful words, Ole!

 

The Devatas are ALREADY blessing you, even as I write this. You will

soon know and feel their blessings, for yourself. You will see proof.

I promise.

 

Much love, K.

 

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

> Dearest Kari,

>

> Thanks so much for your blessed letter! Well, what can i say other

> than it takes a woman like YOU to finally convince me! :-) May the

> Devatas kindly bless me soon through the manifestation of

> Rudraksham.

>

> Much love!

>

> Ole

>

> , "karisprowl"

> <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > Hey, Ole!

> >

> > It IS mentioned on the Rudra Center w/s. I just saw it, a few

> hours

> > ago, when I did a Google search. I don't know WHERE on the w/s,

> > because I didn't think to check it out-- I just noticed the URL.

> When

> > I have a minute, I will look it up, again, for you.

> >

> > Now, I'm a woman. I like sparkly gems (I think it's hard-wired

> into

> > the x-genes <g>). I'm sitting here, looking at the pretty jewels I

> > REPLACED with rudraksham. The reason why I replaced the gems with

> the

> > beads is that I found rudraksha therapy to be a little better than

> gem

> > therapy, at least, for me. You can wear the wrong gem, but you

> can't

> > wear the wrong rudraksha. They can't do harm.

> >

> > I found out about wearing the wrong gem the hard way, when a

> Jyotishi

> > miscalculated my lagna <g>. Things got kinda weird, for awhile,

> there.

> >

> > Also, I found the energy impact a little more dramatic with the

> > rudraksham than with the jewels. It was easire for me to FEEL the

> > changes the beads were making. So, I made the switch.

> >

> > I think you are right in your theory that any perceived negative

> > effects are transitory, and are a result of "melding." The beads

> are

> > sort of "tuning" your nervous system, and "becoming part of you,"

> if

> > that makes any sense. They raise your vibrational level. There

> might

> > be a tad bit of discomfort, but it won't be much, and it won't

> last

> > long.

> >

> > Here's an example of a transitory effect. The first few days, when

> I

> > wore them to bed, I felt a lot of heat in my neck. Though a tad

> > uncomfortable, I found it very reassuring-- it meant that the

> beads

> > were starting to work. Then, as the beads and I shared energies,

> the

> > heat effect went away. it took maybe a week.

> >

> > And, Kantiji and DDji have told the occasional funny story about

> > initially having a hard time walking, chewing gum, and wearing a

> 15 or

> > higher, at the same time. <g>

> >

> > Enjoy your journey, knowing fully that the beads can do you

> nothing

> > but good. Look forward to your 40 days, and 90 days, and the rest

> of

> > your life, knowing that you are becoming more and more who you

> really

> > are meant to be every, single minute. Enjoy the beauty, and the

> love,

> > and the little mircles that you will begin to see all around you

> all

> > of the time.(the Gods have a WONDERFUL sense of humor, BTW) <g>.

> Wear

> > the beads, cherish them, annoint them, meditate on them, and

> befriend

> > them. They really are living jewels and tangeable manifestations

> of

> > Dieties. It's been almost a year, for me, and it never gets old,

> or

> > stale. Not for a minute. Always remember, you are wearing a

> tangeable

> > piece of the immense and umimaginable love of the God/dess/es

> around

> > your neck all the time. It's the very best armour that you can

> have,

> > in this rough and primitive "school."

> >

> > And, do, please meditate every day. Twice, if you can. It makes it

> > even better and faster.

> >

> > I'm not very sophisticated, but I'm fairly intuitive. I know that

> you

> > were meant to wear the beads.

> >

> > With much love, Kari

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear Kari,

> > >

> > > Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question was

> for

> > > all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him who

> > > originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I

> appreciate

> > > insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> > > recommendations and check any online resources.

> > > Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre Website..?

> > >

> > > This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a crucial

> > > subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

> > > Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem therapy;

> the

> > > frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad, if we

> > > feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the deeper

> > > knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative"

> effects

> > > are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> > > neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further

> insights

> > > into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Love, Ole

> > >

> > > , "karisprowl"

> > > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

> he

> > > > comes back online.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

> addressed

> > > in

> > > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

> standard

> > > for

> > > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > > cultures.

> > > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

> engine,

> > > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

> up.

> > > >

> > > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

> beads'

> > > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like

> it

> > > takes

> > > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

> one's

> > > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

> days.

> > > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> > > malas

> > > > not be "swapped around."

> > > >

> > > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> > > mukhi

> > > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

> any "jarring"

> > > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> > > without

> > > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

> Some

> > > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing

> 15s

> > > and

> > > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > > >

> > > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > > >

> > > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "alstrup"

> > > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > > >

> > > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

> discipline?

> > > Is

> > > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

> could

> > > not

> > > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

> specific

> > > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

> bad

> > > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

> wearing of

> > > > the

> > > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

> Are

> > > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

> with

> > > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must

> be

> > > very

> > > > > individual...

> > > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to

> get

> > > > right

> > > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings

> at

> > > #3643

> > > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > > horoscope

> > > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

> look at

> > > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Ole

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> > > with

> > > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> > > initial

> > > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

> balanceing

> > > of

> > > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

> Mukhi

> > > > > Beads

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a

> day

> > > > where

> > > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> > > place

> > > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is

> the

> > > > day

> > > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > > continue

> > > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is

> same

> > > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

> Thomas

> > > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > > >

> > > > > <>

> > > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> > > wearing

> > > > > the

> > > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> > > centre

> > > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

> the

> > > puja

> > > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> > > days

> > > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

> 5mukhi

> > > > mala

> > > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

> necklace i

> > > > > would

> > > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

> apart

> > > from

> > > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

> the

> > > > > effect

> > > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sponsor

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To send an email to:

> -

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Terms

> of

> > > > > Service.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text por

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Hi Kari and Ole and everyone - thought I'd toss in my two cents on the

subject of energy and melding. In 35 years of personal experience with this

and observing the experience of many, many other people -two things stand

out. First, there is an initializing period wherein the energy of the gem

or the beads (or whatever you are bringing into your own energy field) will

interact with you and create as a by-product any number of sensations,

perceptions or experiences. That fades away after a while and you cease to

notice that very much.

 

But, on an ongoing basis, there is a subtle interaction that continues which

is based on the vibrational "entrainment" of the gems or beads in relation

to your own "signature" frequency of vibration. Your energy field varies,

but the gems or beads have a fixed, non-variable, highly coherent field, and

the interaction between the two results in an ongoing "clearing" process.

 

What is being cleared are incoherent or imbalanced harmonics or

sub-frequencies within your greater energy field. At times, the clearing

process can intensify and at other times, it subsides. The same process

happens with anything you expose yourself to that is vibrating at a more

coherent frequency than you are vibrating at. You are entrained by the

"higher" frequency and will begin to resonate with it - which catalyzes the

clearing process.

 

Perhaps another angle to consider....

 

Namaste,

Alan

 

 

>"karisprowl" <karisprowl

>

>

>RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:32:02 -0000

>

>Hey, Ole!

>

>It IS mentioned on the Rudra Center w/s. I just saw it, a few hours

>ago, when I did a Google search. I don't know WHERE on the w/s,

>because I didn't think to check it out-- I just noticed the URL. When

>I have a minute, I will look it up, again, for you.

>

>Now, I'm a woman. I like sparkly gems (I think it's hard-wired into

>the x-genes <g>). I'm sitting here, looking at the pretty jewels I

>REPLACED with rudraksham. The reason why I replaced the gems with the

>beads is that I found rudraksha therapy to be a little better than gem

>therapy, at least, for me. You can wear the wrong gem, but you can't

>wear the wrong rudraksha. They can't do harm.

>

>I found out about wearing the wrong gem the hard way, when a Jyotishi

>miscalculated my lagna <g>. Things got kinda weird, for awhile, there.

>

> Also, I found the energy impact a little more dramatic with the

>rudraksham than with the jewels. It was easire for me to FEEL the

>changes the beads were making. So, I made the switch.

>

>I think you are right in your theory that any perceived negative

>effects are transitory, and are a result of "melding." The beads are

>sort of "tuning" your nervous system, and "becoming part of you," if

>that makes any sense. They raise your vibrational level. There might

>be a tad bit of discomfort, but it won't be much, and it won't last

>long.

>

>Here's an example of a transitory effect. The first few days, when I

>wore them to bed, I felt a lot of heat in my neck. Though a tad

>uncomfortable, I found it very reassuring-- it meant that the beads

>were starting to work. Then, as the beads and I shared energies, the

>heat effect went away. it took maybe a week.

>

>And, Kantiji and DDji have told the occasional funny story about

>initially having a hard time walking, chewing gum, and wearing a 15 or

>higher, at the same time. <g>

>

>Enjoy your journey, knowing fully that the beads can do you nothing

>but good. Look forward to your 40 days, and 90 days, and the rest of

>your life, knowing that you are becoming more and more who you really

>are meant to be every, single minute. Enjoy the beauty, and the love,

>and the little mircles that you will begin to see all around you all

>of the time.(the Gods have a WONDERFUL sense of humor, BTW) <g>. Wear

>the beads, cherish them, annoint them, meditate on them, and befriend

>them. They really are living jewels and tangeable manifestations of

>Dieties. It's been almost a year, for me, and it never gets old, or

>stale. Not for a minute. Always remember, you are wearing a tangeable

>piece of the immense and umimaginable love of the God/dess/es around

>your neck all the time. It's the very best armour that you can have,

>in this rough and primitive "school."

>

>And, do, please meditate every day. Twice, if you can. It makes it

>even better and faster.

>

>I'm not very sophisticated, but I'm fairly intuitive. I know that you

>were meant to wear the beads.

>

>With much love, Kari

>

>

>

>

>, "alstrup"

><alstrup> wrote:

> > Dear Kari,

> >

> > Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question was for

> > all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him who

> > originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I appreciate

> > insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> > recommendations and check any online resources.

> > Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre Website..?

> >

> > This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a crucial

> > subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

> > Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem therapy; the

> > frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad, if we

> > feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the deeper

> > knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative" effects

> > are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> > neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further insights

> > into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Love, Ole

> >

> > , "karisprowl"

> > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> > > comes back online.

> > >

> > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

> > in

> > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

> > for

> > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > cultures.

> > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

> > >

> > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

> > takes

> > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> > malas

> > > not be "swapped around."

> > >

> > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> > mukhi

> > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> > without

> > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

> > and

> > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > >

> > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > >

> > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > > , "alstrup"

> > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > >

> > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

> > Is

> > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

> > not

> > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> > > the

> > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

> > very

> > > > individual...

> > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > > right

> > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

> > #3643

> > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > horoscope

> > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Ole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> > with

> > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > >

> > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> > initial

> > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

> > of

> > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > > > Beads

> > > > >

> > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > > where

> > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> > place

> > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> > > day

> > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > continue

> > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > >

> > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > >

> > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > >

> > > > <>

> > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> > wearing

> > > > the

> > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> > centre

> > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

> > puja

> > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> > days

> > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> > > mala

> > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > > > would

> > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

> > from

> > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > > > effect

> > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > >

> > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > To send an email to: -

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Terms of

> > > > Service.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portio

>

 

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Hi Alan,

 

Those two cents have a lot of value!

Generally, I tend to view things through the Tachyon/SOEF theory

based on my previous experience with frequency tools and later

experience with tachyon tools. Please see the article at

http://www.tachyon-train.com/tachyonenergy.htm for the basics.

 

We know that gems with the "wrong frequency" can create further

chaos in our energetic systems. Jyotish is the science given by the

Rishis on how to calculate the desired frequency spectrums of gems

according to cosmic planetary energy needed for balance. But it

seems that Rudraksha are somehow different, that they cannot "hurt"

you like gems can, although opinions seems to differ on this point.

So there is a difference somewhere, although I have yet to

understand where it is...

 

I am quite impressed with your description of "frequency

entrainment" and will send it to a very good friend of mine who is

regarded as an authority within the tachyon educational community

and who has deep roots in the vedic perspective of life.

 

Thanks,

 

Love, Ole

 

, "Alan Scherr"

<source311@h...> wrote:

> Hi Kari and Ole and everyone - thought I'd toss in my two cents on

the

> subject of energy and melding. In 35 years of personal experience

with this

> and observing the experience of many, many other people -two

things stand

> out. First, there is an initializing period wherein the energy of

the gem

> or the beads (or whatever you are bringing into your own energy

field) will

> interact with you and create as a by-product any number of

sensations,

> perceptions or experiences. That fades away after a while and you

cease to

> notice that very much.

>

> But, on an ongoing basis, there is a subtle interaction that

continues which

> is based on the vibrational "entrainment" of the gems or beads in

relation

> to your own "signature" frequency of vibration. Your energy field

varies,

> but the gems or beads have a fixed, non-variable, highly coherent

field, and

> the interaction between the two results in an ongoing "clearing"

process.

>

> What is being cleared are incoherent or imbalanced harmonics or

> sub-frequencies within your greater energy field. At times, the

clearing

> process can intensify and at other times, it subsides. The same

process

> happens with anything you expose yourself to that is vibrating at

a more

> coherent frequency than you are vibrating at. You are entrained

by the

> "higher" frequency and will begin to resonate with it - which

catalyzes the

> clearing process.

>

> Perhaps another angle to consider....

>

> Namaste,

> Alan

>

>

> >"karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> >

> >

> >RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:32:02 -0000

> >

> >Hey, Ole!

> >

> >It IS mentioned on the Rudra Center w/s. I just saw it, a few

hours

> >ago, when I did a Google search. I don't know WHERE on the w/s,

> >because I didn't think to check it out-- I just noticed the URL.

When

> >I have a minute, I will look it up, again, for you.

> >

> >Now, I'm a woman. I like sparkly gems (I think it's hard-wired

into

> >the x-genes <g>). I'm sitting here, looking at the pretty jewels I

> >REPLACED with rudraksham. The reason why I replaced the gems with

the

> >beads is that I found rudraksha therapy to be a little better

than gem

> >therapy, at least, for me. You can wear the wrong gem, but you

can't

> >wear the wrong rudraksha. They can't do harm.

> >

> >I found out about wearing the wrong gem the hard way, when a

Jyotishi

> >miscalculated my lagna <g>. Things got kinda weird, for awhile,

there.

> >

> > Also, I found the energy impact a little more dramatic with the

> >rudraksham than with the jewels. It was easire for me to FEEL the

> >changes the beads were making. So, I made the switch.

> >

> >I think you are right in your theory that any perceived negative

> >effects are transitory, and are a result of "melding." The beads

are

> >sort of "tuning" your nervous system, and "becoming part of you,"

if

> >that makes any sense. They raise your vibrational level. There

might

> >be a tad bit of discomfort, but it won't be much, and it won't

last

> >long.

> >

> >Here's an example of a transitory effect. The first few days,

when I

> >wore them to bed, I felt a lot of heat in my neck. Though a tad

> >uncomfortable, I found it very reassuring-- it meant that the

beads

> >were starting to work. Then, as the beads and I shared energies,

the

> >heat effect went away. it took maybe a week.

> >

> >And, Kantiji and DDji have told the occasional funny story about

> >initially having a hard time walking, chewing gum, and wearing a

15 or

> >higher, at the same time. <g>

> >

> >Enjoy your journey, knowing fully that the beads can do you

nothing

> >but good. Look forward to your 40 days, and 90 days, and the rest

of

> >your life, knowing that you are becoming more and more who you

really

> >are meant to be every, single minute. Enjoy the beauty, and the

love,

> >and the little mircles that you will begin to see all around you

all

> >of the time.(the Gods have a WONDERFUL sense of humor, BTW) <g>.

Wear

> >the beads, cherish them, annoint them, meditate on them, and

befriend

> >them. They really are living jewels and tangeable manifestations

of

> >Dieties. It's been almost a year, for me, and it never gets old,

or

> >stale. Not for a minute. Always remember, you are wearing a

tangeable

> >piece of the immense and umimaginable love of the God/dess/es

around

> >your neck all the time. It's the very best armour that you can

have,

> >in this rough and primitive "school."

> >

> >And, do, please meditate every day. Twice, if you can. It makes it

> >even better and faster.

> >

> >I'm not very sophisticated, but I'm fairly intuitive. I know that

you

> >were meant to wear the beads.

> >

> >With much love, Kari

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >, "alstrup"

> ><alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear Kari,

> > >

> > > Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question was

for

> > > all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him

who

> > > originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I

appreciate

> > > insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> > > recommendations and check any online resources.

> > > Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre Website..?

> > >

> > > This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a crucial

> > > subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

> > > Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem

therapy; the

> > > frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad, if

we

> > > feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the

deeper

> > > knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative"

effects

> > > are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> > > neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further

insights

> > > into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Love, Ole

> > >

> > > , "karisprowl"

> > > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer,

until he

> > > > comes back online.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

addressed

> > > in

> > > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

standard

> > > for

> > > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > > cultures.

> > > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

engine,

> > > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references

pop up.

> > > >

> > > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

beads'

> > > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like

it

> > > takes

> > > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

one's

> > > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

days.

> > > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended

that

> > > malas

> > > > not be "swapped around."

> > > >

> > > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the

lower

> > > mukhi

> > > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

any "jarring"

> > > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> > > without

> > > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

Some

> > > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing

15s

> > > and

> > > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > > >

> > > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > > >

> > > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "alstrup"

> > > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > > >

> > > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

discipline?

> > > Is

> > > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

could

> > > not

> > > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

specific

> > > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle

of bad

> > > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

wearing of

> > > > the

> > > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in

the

> > > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these

things. Are

> > > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with

special

> > > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What

happens with

> > > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it

must be

> > > very

> > > > > individual...

> > > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to

get

> > > > right

> > > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings

at

> > > #3643

> > > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > > horoscope

> > > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

look at

> > > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Ole

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your

practice

> > > with

> > > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> > > initial

> > > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

balanceing

> > > of

> > > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

Mukhi

> > > > > Beads

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a

day

> > > > where

> > > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot

take

> > > place

> > > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that

is the

> > > > day

> > > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > > continue

> > > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is

same

> > > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

Thomas

> > > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > > >

> > > > > <>

> > > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> > > wearing

> > > > > the

> > > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from

rudra

> > > centre

> > > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

the

> > > puja

> > > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the

40

> > > days

> > > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

5mukhi

> > > > mala

> > > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

necklace i

> > > > > would

> > > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

apart

> > > from

> > > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful

and the

> > > > > effect

> > > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sponsor

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To send an email to:

-

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Terms

of

> > > > > Service.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portio

> >

>

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To Arjuna,

 

I would love your comments on this!

 

Ole

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

> Hi Alan,

>

> Those two cents have a lot of value!

> Generally, I tend to view things through the Tachyon/SOEF theory

> based on my previous experience with frequency tools and later

> experience with tachyon tools. Please see the article at

> http://www.tachyon-train.com/tachyonenergy.htm for the basics.

>

> We know that gems with the "wrong frequency" can create further

> chaos in our energetic systems. Jyotish is the science given by

the

> Rishis on how to calculate the desired frequency spectrums of gems

> according to cosmic planetary energy needed for balance. But it

> seems that Rudraksha are somehow different, that they

cannot "hurt"

> you like gems can, although opinions seems to differ on this

point.

> So there is a difference somewhere, although I have yet to

> understand where it is...

>

> I am quite impressed with your description of "frequency

> entrainment" and will send it to a very good friend of mine who is

> regarded as an authority within the tachyon educational community

> and who has deep roots in the vedic perspective of life.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Love, Ole

>

> , "Alan Scherr"

> <source311@h...> wrote:

> > Hi Kari and Ole and everyone - thought I'd toss in my two cents

on

> the

> > subject of energy and melding. In 35 years of personal

experience

> with this

> > and observing the experience of many, many other people -two

> things stand

> > out. First, there is an initializing period wherein the energy

of

> the gem

> > or the beads (or whatever you are bringing into your own energy

> field) will

> > interact with you and create as a by-product any number of

> sensations,

> > perceptions or experiences. That fades away after a while and

you

> cease to

> > notice that very much.

> >

> > But, on an ongoing basis, there is a subtle interaction that

> continues which

> > is based on the vibrational "entrainment" of the gems or beads

in

> relation

> > to your own "signature" frequency of vibration. Your energy

field

> varies,

> > but the gems or beads have a fixed, non-variable, highly

coherent

> field, and

> > the interaction between the two results in an ongoing "clearing"

> process.

> >

> > What is being cleared are incoherent or imbalanced harmonics or

> > sub-frequencies within your greater energy field. At times, the

> clearing

> > process can intensify and at other times, it subsides. The same

> process

> > happens with anything you expose yourself to that is vibrating

at

> a more

> > coherent frequency than you are vibrating at. You are entrained

> by the

> > "higher" frequency and will begin to resonate with it - which

> catalyzes the

> > clearing process.

> >

> > Perhaps another angle to consider....

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Alan

> >

> >

> > >"karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> > >

> > >

> > >RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> > >Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:32:02 -0000

> > >

> > >Hey, Ole!

> > >

> > >It IS mentioned on the Rudra Center w/s. I just saw it, a few

> hours

> > >ago, when I did a Google search. I don't know WHERE on the w/s,

> > >because I didn't think to check it out-- I just noticed the

URL.

> When

> > >I have a minute, I will look it up, again, for you.

> > >

> > >Now, I'm a woman. I like sparkly gems (I think it's hard-wired

> into

> > >the x-genes <g>). I'm sitting here, looking at the pretty

jewels I

> > >REPLACED with rudraksham. The reason why I replaced the gems

with

> the

> > >beads is that I found rudraksha therapy to be a little better

> than gem

> > >therapy, at least, for me. You can wear the wrong gem, but you

> can't

> > >wear the wrong rudraksha. They can't do harm.

> > >

> > >I found out about wearing the wrong gem the hard way, when a

> Jyotishi

> > >miscalculated my lagna <g>. Things got kinda weird, for awhile,

> there.

> > >

> > > Also, I found the energy impact a little more dramatic with

the

> > >rudraksham than with the jewels. It was easire for me to FEEL

the

> > >changes the beads were making. So, I made the switch.

> > >

> > >I think you are right in your theory that any perceived negative

> > >effects are transitory, and are a result of "melding." The

beads

> are

> > >sort of "tuning" your nervous system, and "becoming part of

you,"

> if

> > >that makes any sense. They raise your vibrational level. There

> might

> > >be a tad bit of discomfort, but it won't be much, and it won't

> last

> > >long.

> > >

> > >Here's an example of a transitory effect. The first few days,

> when I

> > >wore them to bed, I felt a lot of heat in my neck. Though a tad

> > >uncomfortable, I found it very reassuring-- it meant that the

> beads

> > >were starting to work. Then, as the beads and I shared

energies,

> the

> > >heat effect went away. it took maybe a week.

> > >

> > >And, Kantiji and DDji have told the occasional funny story about

> > >initially having a hard time walking, chewing gum, and wearing

a

> 15 or

> > >higher, at the same time. <g>

> > >

> > >Enjoy your journey, knowing fully that the beads can do you

> nothing

> > >but good. Look forward to your 40 days, and 90 days, and the

rest

> of

> > >your life, knowing that you are becoming more and more who you

> really

> > >are meant to be every, single minute. Enjoy the beauty, and the

> love,

> > >and the little mircles that you will begin to see all around

you

> all

> > >of the time.(the Gods have a WONDERFUL sense of humor, BTW)

<g>.

> Wear

> > >the beads, cherish them, annoint them, meditate on them, and

> befriend

> > >them. They really are living jewels and tangeable

manifestations

> of

> > >Dieties. It's been almost a year, for me, and it never gets

old,

> or

> > >stale. Not for a minute. Always remember, you are wearing a

> tangeable

> > >piece of the immense and umimaginable love of the God/dess/es

> around

> > >your neck all the time. It's the very best armour that you can

> have,

> > >in this rough and primitive "school."

> > >

> > >And, do, please meditate every day. Twice, if you can. It makes

it

> > >even better and faster.

> > >

> > >I'm not very sophisticated, but I'm fairly intuitive. I know

that

> you

> > >were meant to wear the beads.

> > >

> > >With much love, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >, "alstrup"

> > ><alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear Kari,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question

was

> for

> > > > all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him

> who

> > > > originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I

> appreciate

> > > > insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> > > > recommendations and check any online resources.

> > > > Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre

Website..?

> > > >

> > > > This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a

crucial

> > > > subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

> > > > Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem

> therapy; the

> > > > frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad,

if

> we

> > > > feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the

> deeper

> > > > knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative"

> effects

> > > > are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> > > > neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further

> insights

> > > > into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > Love, Ole

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, "karisprowl"

> > > > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer,

> until he

> > > > > comes back online.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

> addressed

> > > > in

> > > > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

> standard

> > > > for

> > > > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > > > cultures.

> > > > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

> engine,

> > > > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references

> pop up.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

> beads'

> > > > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies--

like

> it

> > > > takes

> > > > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

> one's

> > > > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

> days.

> > > > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended

> that

> > > > malas

> > > > > not be "swapped around."

> > > > >

> > > > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the

> lower

> > > > mukhi

> > > > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

> any "jarring"

> > > > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through

13,

> > > > without

> > > > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over

time.

> Some

> > > > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first

wearing

> 15s

> > > > and

> > > > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > > > >

> > > > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, "alstrup"

> > > > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

> discipline?

> > > > Is

> > > > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

> could

> > > > not

> > > > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

> specific

> > > > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle

> of bad

> > > > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

> wearing of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in

> the

> > > > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these

> things. Are

> > > > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with

> special

> > > > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What

> happens with

> > > > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it

> must be

> > > > very

> > > > > > individual...

> > > > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what

to

> get

> > > > > right

> > > > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier

postings

> at

> > > > #3643

> > > > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > > > horoscope

> > > > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

> look at

> > > > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Ole

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your

> practice

> > > > with

> > > > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari

also........the

> > > > initial

> > > > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

> balanceing

> > > > of

> > > > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the

Higher

> Mukhi

> > > > > > Beads

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be

a

> day

> > > > > where

> > > > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot

> take

> > > > place

> > > > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as

that

> is the

> > > > > day

> > > > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > > > continue

> > > > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the

process....is

> same

> > > > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

> Thomas

> > > > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > <>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed

while

> > > > wearing

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from

> rudra

> > > > centre

> > > > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly

performing

> the

> > > > puja

> > > > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about

the

> 40

> > > > days

> > > > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

> 5mukhi

> > > > > mala

> > > > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

> necklace i

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

> apart

> > > > from

> > > > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful

> and the

> > > > > > effect

> > > > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sponsor

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Ole,

 

My hypothesis is that Rudrakshas operate on a frequency and non-frequency based

system. As the are the "Tears of Shiva" the are connected with what is called

zero-point energy in other sytems. It is the connnection in the physical realm

with that which is beyond name and form. At the same time because they have

form ( the different faces) they can act on that basis as well. When specific

ones are chosen for or by an individual these rudraskas can direct specific

frequencies of energy to help particular problems. They do not unbalance a

person because they have a more direct connection to the divine consciousness

that do gem stones. I also work with crystals an gemstones in my work with

people. They have their own intelligence, but as has been mentioned it seems

to be more fixed. I seem them as also as useful in healing and balancing but

have noticed that the can cause imbalances if improperly used.

 

Arjuna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Ole - thank you for your comments and sharing. I would be happy to

meet or interact with your friend.

 

To further elucidate on the entrainment theme, think of gems as vibrational

amplifiers that are frequency-specific. So, they can only do one thing but

they can do it very well. Thus, accuracy in recommendation becomes very

important.

 

I believe that Rudraksha, on the other hand, is a not so much a straight

amplifier as it is a transformer. In other words, it is capable of both

pacifying AND amplifying energies. If the energy is malefic (incompatible),

it gets re-structured by the Rudraksha into a compatible energy. If it is

already compatible, it gets amplified. That is why Rudraksha can be used

astrologically for both malefics as well as benefics, whereas gems can only

be used to amplify benefics.

 

Namaste,

Alan

 

>"alstrup" <alstrup

>

>

>RBSC : RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:02:46 -0000

>

>Hi Alan,

>

>Those two cents have a lot of value!

>Generally, I tend to view things through the Tachyon/SOEF theory

>based on my previous experience with frequency tools and later

>experience with tachyon tools. Please see the article at

>http://www.tachyon-train.com/tachyonenergy.htm for the basics.

>

>We know that gems with the "wrong frequency" can create further

>chaos in our energetic systems. Jyotish is the science given by the

>Rishis on how to calculate the desired frequency spectrums of gems

>according to cosmic planetary energy needed for balance. But it

>seems that Rudraksha are somehow different, that they cannot "hurt"

>you like gems can, although opinions seems to differ on this point.

>So there is a difference somewhere, although I have yet to

>understand where it is...

>

>I am quite impressed with your description of "frequency

>entrainment" and will send it to a very good friend of mine who is

>regarded as an authority within the tachyon educational community

>and who has deep roots in the vedic perspective of life.

>

>Thanks,

>

>Love, Ole

>

>, "Alan Scherr"

><source311@h...> wrote:

> > Hi Kari and Ole and everyone - thought I'd toss in my two cents on

>the

> > subject of energy and melding. In 35 years of personal experience

>with this

> > and observing the experience of many, many other people -two

>things stand

> > out. First, there is an initializing period wherein the energy of

>the gem

> > or the beads (or whatever you are bringing into your own energy

>field) will

> > interact with you and create as a by-product any number of

>sensations,

> > perceptions or experiences. That fades away after a while and you

>cease to

> > notice that very much.

> >

> > But, on an ongoing basis, there is a subtle interaction that

>continues which

> > is based on the vibrational "entrainment" of the gems or beads in

>relation

> > to your own "signature" frequency of vibration. Your energy field

>varies,

> > but the gems or beads have a fixed, non-variable, highly coherent

>field, and

> > the interaction between the two results in an ongoing "clearing"

>process.

> >

> > What is being cleared are incoherent or imbalanced harmonics or

> > sub-frequencies within your greater energy field. At times, the

>clearing

> > process can intensify and at other times, it subsides. The same

>process

> > happens with anything you expose yourself to that is vibrating at

>a more

> > coherent frequency than you are vibrating at. You are entrained

>by the

> > "higher" frequency and will begin to resonate with it - which

>catalyzes the

> > clearing process.

> >

> > Perhaps another angle to consider....

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Alan

> >

> >

> > >"karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> > >

> > >

> > >RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> > >Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:32:02 -0000

> > >

> > >Hey, Ole!

> > >

> > >It IS mentioned on the Rudra Center w/s. I just saw it, a few

>hours

> > >ago, when I did a Google search. I don't know WHERE on the w/s,

> > >because I didn't think to check it out-- I just noticed the URL.

>When

> > >I have a minute, I will look it up, again, for you.

> > >

> > >Now, I'm a woman. I like sparkly gems (I think it's hard-wired

>into

> > >the x-genes <g>). I'm sitting here, looking at the pretty jewels I

> > >REPLACED with rudraksham. The reason why I replaced the gems with

>the

> > >beads is that I found rudraksha therapy to be a little better

>than gem

> > >therapy, at least, for me. You can wear the wrong gem, but you

>can't

> > >wear the wrong rudraksha. They can't do harm.

> > >

> > >I found out about wearing the wrong gem the hard way, when a

>Jyotishi

> > >miscalculated my lagna <g>. Things got kinda weird, for awhile,

>there.

> > >

> > > Also, I found the energy impact a little more dramatic with the

> > >rudraksham than with the jewels. It was easire for me to FEEL the

> > >changes the beads were making. So, I made the switch.

> > >

> > >I think you are right in your theory that any perceived negative

> > >effects are transitory, and are a result of "melding." The beads

>are

> > >sort of "tuning" your nervous system, and "becoming part of you,"

>if

> > >that makes any sense. They raise your vibrational level. There

>might

> > >be a tad bit of discomfort, but it won't be much, and it won't

>last

> > >long.

> > >

> > >Here's an example of a transitory effect. The first few days,

>when I

> > >wore them to bed, I felt a lot of heat in my neck. Though a tad

> > >uncomfortable, I found it very reassuring-- it meant that the

>beads

> > >were starting to work. Then, as the beads and I shared energies,

>the

> > >heat effect went away. it took maybe a week.

> > >

> > >And, Kantiji and DDji have told the occasional funny story about

> > >initially having a hard time walking, chewing gum, and wearing a

>15 or

> > >higher, at the same time. <g>

> > >

> > >Enjoy your journey, knowing fully that the beads can do you

>nothing

> > >but good. Look forward to your 40 days, and 90 days, and the rest

>of

> > >your life, knowing that you are becoming more and more who you

>really

> > >are meant to be every, single minute. Enjoy the beauty, and the

>love,

> > >and the little mircles that you will begin to see all around you

>all

> > >of the time.(the Gods have a WONDERFUL sense of humor, BTW) <g>.

>Wear

> > >the beads, cherish them, annoint them, meditate on them, and

>befriend

> > >them. They really are living jewels and tangeable manifestations

>of

> > >Dieties. It's been almost a year, for me, and it never gets old,

>or

> > >stale. Not for a minute. Always remember, you are wearing a

>tangeable

> > >piece of the immense and umimaginable love of the God/dess/es

>around

> > >your neck all the time. It's the very best armour that you can

>have,

> > >in this rough and primitive "school."

> > >

> > >And, do, please meditate every day. Twice, if you can. It makes it

> > >even better and faster.

> > >

> > >I'm not very sophisticated, but I'm fairly intuitive. I know that

>you

> > >were meant to wear the beads.

> > >

> > >With much love, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >, "alstrup"

> > ><alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear Kari,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question was

>for

> > > > all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him

>who

> > > > originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I

>appreciate

> > > > insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> > > > recommendations and check any online resources.

> > > > Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre Website..?

> > > >

> > > > This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a crucial

> > > > subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like Dr.

> > > > Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem

>therapy; the

> > > > frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad, if

>we

> > > > feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the

>deeper

> > > > knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative"

>effects

> > > > are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> > > > neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further

>insights

> > > > into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > Love, Ole

> > > >

> > > > , "karisprowl"

> > > > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer,

>until he

> > > > > comes back online.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

>addressed

> > > > in

> > > > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

>standard

> > > > for

> > > > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > > > cultures.

> > > > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

>engine,

> > > > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references

>pop up.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

>beads'

> > > > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like

>it

> > > > takes

> > > > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

>one's

> > > > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

>days.

> > > > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended

>that

> > > > malas

> > > > > not be "swapped around."

> > > > >

> > > > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the

>lower

> > > > mukhi

> > > > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

>any "jarring"

> > > > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> > > > without

> > > > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

>Some

> > > > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing

>15s

> > > > and

> > > > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > > > >

> > > > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "alstrup"

> > > > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

>discipline?

> > > > Is

> > > > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

>could

> > > > not

> > > > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

>specific

> > > > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle

>of bad

> > > > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

>wearing of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in

>the

> > > > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these

>things. Are

> > > > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with

>special

> > > > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What

>happens with

> > > > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it

>must be

> > > > very

> > > > > > individual...

> > > > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to

>get

> > > > > right

> > > > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings

>at

> > > > #3643

> > > > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > > > horoscope

> > > > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

>look at

> > > > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Ole

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your

>practice

> > > > with

> > > > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> > > > initial

> > > > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

>balanceing

> > > > of

> > > > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

>Mukhi

> > > > > > Beads

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a

>day

> > > > > where

> > > > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot

>take

> > > > place

> > > > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that

>is the

> > > > > day

> > > > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > > > continue

> > > > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is

>same

> > > > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

>Thomas

> > > > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > <>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> > > > wearing

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from

>rudra

> > > > centre

> > > > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

>the

> > > > puja

> > > > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the

>40

> > > > days

> > > > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

>5mukhi

> > > > > mala

> > > > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

>necklace i

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

>apart

> > > > from

> > > > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful

>and the

> > > > > > effect

> > > > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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... and here's proof of the harmlessness of the beads, Ole. Fives are,

as we know, the most common (I think that means we are supposed to

use a lot of them <g>).

 

Most commercially available japa malas are made of fives. Lotta folks

wear and use them. Fives are the planetary representation of Jupiter.

Jupiter is malefic for some lagnas. But, one doesn't hear a lot of

complaints of illness or discomfort from five-mukhi japa malas. One

does read, in the Indian papers, about folks who complain of problems

from wearing the wrong gem.

 

Thanks SO much, Alan for you fascinating theory. Which makes PERFECT

sense, to me.

 

Love, Kari

 

 

, "Alan Scherr"

<source311@h...> wrote:

> Hello Ole - thank you for your comments and sharing. I would be

happy to

> meet or interact with your friend.

>

> To further elucidate on the entrainment theme, think of gems as

vibrational

> amplifiers that are frequency-specific. So, they can only do one

thing but

> they can do it very well. Thus, accuracy in recommendation becomes

very

> important.

>

> I believe that Rudraksha, on the other hand, is a not so much a

straight

> amplifier as it is a transformer. In other words, it is capable of

both

> pacifying AND amplifying energies. If the energy is malefic

(incompatible),

> it gets re-structured by the Rudraksha into a compatible energy.

If it is

> already compatible, it gets amplified. That is why Rudraksha can

be used

> astrologically for both malefics as well as benefics, whereas gems

can only

> be used to amplify benefics.

>

> Namaste,

> Alan

>

> >"alstrup" <alstrup>

> >

> >

> >RBSC : RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:02:46 -0000

> >

> >Hi Alan,

> >

> >Those two cents have a lot of value!

> >Generally, I tend to view things through the Tachyon/SOEF theory

> >based on my previous experience with frequency tools and later

> >experience with tachyon tools. Please see the article at

> >http://www.tachyon-train.com/tachyonenergy.htm for the basics.

> >

> >We know that gems with the "wrong frequency" can create further

> >chaos in our energetic systems. Jyotish is the science given by the

> >Rishis on how to calculate the desired frequency spectrums of gems

> >according to cosmic planetary energy needed for balance. But it

> >seems that Rudraksha are somehow different, that they cannot "hurt"

> >you like gems can, although opinions seems to differ on this point.

> >So there is a difference somewhere, although I have yet to

> >understand where it is...

> >

> >I am quite impressed with your description of "frequency

> >entrainment" and will send it to a very good friend of mine who is

> >regarded as an authority within the tachyon educational community

> >and who has deep roots in the vedic perspective of life.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >

> >Love, Ole

> >

> >, "Alan Scherr"

> ><source311@h...> wrote:

> > > Hi Kari and Ole and everyone - thought I'd toss in my two cents

on

> >the

> > > subject of energy and melding. In 35 years of personal

experience

> >with this

> > > and observing the experience of many, many other people -two

> >things stand

> > > out. First, there is an initializing period wherein the energy

of

> >the gem

> > > or the beads (or whatever you are bringing into your own energy

> >field) will

> > > interact with you and create as a by-product any number of

> >sensations,

> > > perceptions or experiences. That fades away after a while and

you

> >cease to

> > > notice that very much.

> > >

> > > But, on an ongoing basis, there is a subtle interaction that

> >continues which

> > > is based on the vibrational "entrainment" of the gems or beads

in

> >relation

> > > to your own "signature" frequency of vibration. Your energy

field

> >varies,

> > > but the gems or beads have a fixed, non-variable, highly

coherent

> >field, and

> > > the interaction between the two results in an ongoing "clearing"

> >process.

> > >

> > > What is being cleared are incoherent or imbalanced harmonics or

> > > sub-frequencies within your greater energy field. At times, the

> >clearing

> > > process can intensify and at other times, it subsides. The same

> >process

> > > happens with anything you expose yourself to that is vibrating

at

> >a more

> > > coherent frequency than you are vibrating at. You are entrained

> >by the

> > > "higher" frequency and will begin to resonate with it - which

> >catalyzes the

> > > clearing process.

> > >

> > > Perhaps another angle to consider....

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > Alan

> > >

> > >

> > > >"karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> > > >Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:32:02 -0000

> > > >

> > > >Hey, Ole!

> > > >

> > > >It IS mentioned on the Rudra Center w/s. I just saw it, a few

> >hours

> > > >ago, when I did a Google search. I don't know WHERE on the w/s,

> > > >because I didn't think to check it out-- I just noticed the

URL.

> >When

> > > >I have a minute, I will look it up, again, for you.

> > > >

> > > >Now, I'm a woman. I like sparkly gems (I think it's hard-wired

> >into

> > > >the x-genes <g>). I'm sitting here, looking at the pretty

jewels I

> > > >REPLACED with rudraksham. The reason why I replaced the gems

with

> >the

> > > >beads is that I found rudraksha therapy to be a little better

> >than gem

> > > >therapy, at least, for me. You can wear the wrong gem, but you

> >can't

> > > >wear the wrong rudraksha. They can't do harm.

> > > >

> > > >I found out about wearing the wrong gem the hard way, when a

> >Jyotishi

> > > >miscalculated my lagna <g>. Things got kinda weird, for awhile,

> >there.

> > > >

> > > > Also, I found the energy impact a little more dramatic with

the

> > > >rudraksham than with the jewels. It was easire for me to FEEL

the

> > > >changes the beads were making. So, I made the switch.

> > > >

> > > >I think you are right in your theory that any perceived

negative

> > > >effects are transitory, and are a result of "melding." The

beads

> >are

> > > >sort of "tuning" your nervous system, and "becoming part of

you,"

> >if

> > > >that makes any sense. They raise your vibrational level. There

> >might

> > > >be a tad bit of discomfort, but it won't be much, and it won't

> >last

> > > >long.

> > > >

> > > >Here's an example of a transitory effect. The first few days,

> >when I

> > > >wore them to bed, I felt a lot of heat in my neck. Though a tad

> > > >uncomfortable, I found it very reassuring-- it meant that the

> >beads

> > > >were starting to work. Then, as the beads and I shared

energies,

> >the

> > > >heat effect went away. it took maybe a week.

> > > >

> > > >And, Kantiji and DDji have told the occasional funny story

about

> > > >initially having a hard time walking, chewing gum, and wearing

a

> >15 or

> > > >higher, at the same time. <g>

> > > >

> > > >Enjoy your journey, knowing fully that the beads can do you

> >nothing

> > > >but good. Look forward to your 40 days, and 90 days, and the

rest

> >of

> > > >your life, knowing that you are becoming more and more who you

> >really

> > > >are meant to be every, single minute. Enjoy the beauty, and the

> >love,

> > > >and the little mircles that you will begin to see all around

you

> >all

> > > >of the time.(the Gods have a WONDERFUL sense of humor, BTW)

<g>.

> >Wear

> > > >the beads, cherish them, annoint them, meditate on them, and

> >befriend

> > > >them. They really are living jewels and tangeable

manifestations

> >of

> > > >Dieties. It's been almost a year, for me, and it never gets

old,

> >or

> > > >stale. Not for a minute. Always remember, you are wearing a

> >tangeable

> > > >piece of the immense and umimaginable love of the God/dess/es

> >around

> > > >your neck all the time. It's the very best armour that you can

> >have,

> > > >in this rough and primitive "school."

> > > >

> > > >And, do, please meditate every day. Twice, if you can. It

makes it

> > > >even better and faster.

> > > >

> > > >I'm not very sophisticated, but I'm fairly intuitive. I know

that

> >you

> > > >were meant to wear the beads.

> > > >

> > > >With much love, Kari

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >, "alstrup"

> > > ><alstrup> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Kari,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for those valuable insights! Actually, my question

was

> >for

> > > > > all, but I addressed the question to DharmaDev as it was him

> >who

> > > > > originally answered the related post from Rajeswara. I

> >appreciate

> > > > > insights from all..! I will do a search according to your

> > > > > recommendations and check any online resources.

> > > > > Wonder why this is not mentioned at the Rudra Centre

Website..?

> > > > >

> > > > > This aspect of "energy melding" that you describe is a

crucial

> > > > > subject matter! Some people I have had contact with (like

Dr.

> > > > > Ramesh) apply Rudraksha effects to be identical to gem

> >therapy; the

> > > > > frequency of the particular gem can either be good or bad,

if

> >we

> > > > > feel some bad effects, then we should stop using. But the

> >deeper

> > > > > knowledge about Rudraksha is that any perceived "negative"

> >effects

> > > > > are transient due to the energy meld and shift of the

> > > > > neurophysiology, right? Would like to learn about further

> >insights

> > > > > into the energetics of this phenomenon. Any hints?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > > > Love, Ole

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, "karisprowl"

> > > > > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > > > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer,

> >until he

> > > > > > comes back online.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

> >addressed

> > > > > in

> > > > > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

> >standard

> > > > > for

> > > > > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > > > > cultures.

> > > > > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

> >engine,

> > > > > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references

> >pop up.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

> >beads'

> > > > > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies--

like

> >it

> > > > > takes

> > > > > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

> >one's

> > > > > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

> >days.

> > > > > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations,

I

> > > > > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended

> >that

> > > > > malas

> > > > > > not be "swapped around."

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the

> >lower

> > > > > mukhi

> > > > > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

> >any "jarring"

> > > > > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through

13,

> > > > > without

> > > > > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over

time.

> >Some

> > > > > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first

wearing

> >15s

> > > > > and

> > > > > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, "alstrup"

> > > > > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

> >discipline?

> > > > > Is

> > > > > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

> >could

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

> >specific

> > > > > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle

> >of bad

> > > > > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

> >wearing of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in

> >the

> > > > > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these

> >things. Are

> > > > > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with

> >special

> > > > > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What

> >happens with

> > > > > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it

> >must be

> > > > > very

> > > > > > > individual...

> > > > > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what

to

> >get

> > > > > > right

> > > > > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier

postings

> >at

> > > > > #3643

> > > > > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you

the

> > > > > horoscope

> > > > > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

> >look at

> > > > > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Ole

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your

> >practice

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari

also........the

> > > > > initial

> > > > > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

> >balanceing

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the

Higher

> >Mukhi

> > > > > > > Beads

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may

be a

> >day

> > > > > > where

> > > > > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot

> >take

> > > > > place

> > > > > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as

that

> >is the

> > > > > > day

> > > > > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs

and

> > > > > continue

> > > > > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the

process....is

> >same

> > > > > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

> >Thomas

> > > > > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <>

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed

while

> > > > > wearing

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from

> >rudra

> > > > > centre

> > > > > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly

performing

> >the

> > > > > puja

> > > > > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about

the

> >40

> > > > > days

> > > > > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

> >5mukhi

> > > > > > mala

> > > > > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

> >necklace i

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

> >apart

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful

> >and the

> > > > > > > effect

> > > > > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > > > > >

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RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

 

 

> I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> comes back online.

>

> I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed in

> scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard for

> both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali cultures.

> Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

>

> I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it takes

> about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that malas

> not be "swapped around."

>

> Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower mukhi

> for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13, without

> any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s and

> 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

>

> Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

>

> Take all the very best care, Kari

>

>

> , "alstrup"

> <alstrup> wrote:

> > Dear DharmaDevji

> >

> > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline? Is

> > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could not

> > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> the

> > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be very

> > individual...

> > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> right

> > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at #3643

> > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the horoscope

> > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > them. What would be your fee?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Ole

> >

> >

> >

> > , "ShiningLotus"

> > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > >

> > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice with

> > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > >

> > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the initial

> > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing of

> > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > Beads

> > >

> > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> where

> > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take place

> > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> day

> > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and continue

> > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > Ashley Farrand

> > >

> > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > >

> > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > >

> > > DharmaDev

> > >

> > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > >

> > <>

> > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

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> > >

> > >

> > > dear darmadevaji

> > >

> > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > >

> > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while wearing

> > the

> > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra centre

> > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the puja

> > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40 days

> > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> mala

> > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > would

> > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart from

> > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > effect

> > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > >

> > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > >

> > > om namah shivaya

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Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day ritual, for those

who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each month.

 

Lada

 

 

 

 

L. Baines

 

 

 

sakthi [sakthiguru]

September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

 

Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

 

 

 

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> I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> comes back online.

>

> I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed in

> scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard for

> both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali cultures.

> Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

>

> I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it takes

> about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that malas

> not be "swapped around."

>

> Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower mukhi

> for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13, without

> any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s and

> 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

>

> Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

>

> Take all the very best care, Kari

>

>

> , "alstrup"

> <alstrup> wrote:

> > Dear DharmaDevji

> >

> > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline? Is

> > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could not

> > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> the

> > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be very

> > individual...

> > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> right

> > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at #3643

> > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the horoscope

> > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > them. What would be your fee?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Ole

> >

> >

> >

> > , "ShiningLotus"

> > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > >

> > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice with

> > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > >

> > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the initial

> > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing of

> > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > Beads

> > >

> > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> where

> > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take place

> > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> day

> > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and continue

> > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > Ashley Farrand

> > >

> > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > >

> > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > >

> > > DharmaDev

> > >

> > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > >

> > <>

> > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > >

> > >

> > > dear darmadevaji

> > >

> > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > >

> > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while wearing

> > the

> > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra centre

> > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the puja

> > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40 days

> > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> mala

> > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > would

> > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart from

> > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > effect

> > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > >

> > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > >

> > > om namah shivaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Many of us believe, I think, that women can wear them right through

the month. As DDji reminds us, women are even CLEANER, as the old

blood leaves the womb. The stuff that is no longer useable is coming

OUT.

 

I know I wear my beads, without respect to monthlies.

 

K.

 

 

, "Baines, Lada

AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day ritual,

for those

> who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each month.

>

> Lada

>

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

> sakthi [sakthiguru@s...]

> September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

>

> Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

>

> -

> "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> <>

> Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:12 AM

> RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> > comes back online.

> >

> > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

in

> > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

for

> > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

cultures.

> > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

> >

> > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

takes

> > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

malas

> > not be "swapped around."

> >

> > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

mukhi

> > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

without

> > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

and

> > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> >

> > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> >

> > Take all the very best care, Kari

> >

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > >

> > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

Is

> > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

not

> > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> > the

> > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

very

> > > individual...

> > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > right

> > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

#3643

> > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

horoscope

> > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > > them. What would be your fee?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

, "ShiningLotus"

> > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

with

> > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > >

> > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

initial

> > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

of

> > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > > Beads

> > > >

> > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > where

> > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

place

> > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> > day

> > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

continue

> > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > > Ashley Farrand

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > >

> > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > >

> > > > DharmaDev

> > > >

> > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > >

> > > <>

> > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > >

> > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

wearing

> > > the

> > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

centre

> > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

puja

> > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

days

> > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> > mala

> > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > > would

> > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

from

> > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > > effect

> > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > >

> > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sponsor

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Thnx Sis. appreciate your response. This is a very busy time of the year

for me workwise. I have been working overtime, just about everyday and

week-ends. After work, running off to my 'Hot Yoga'. As I suffer from

fibromyalgia, getting up early in the morning is a chore. I haven't been

able to chant all of my mantras. At work in the mornings I push paper, and

afternoons I deal with my clients. So I plug myself to my headsets and

listen to all my mantra tapes at work, with interruptions in between. I

have been feeling very guilty about this, as I leave for work each morning,

I do a shortcut pooja, and I say to them...'you know how much I love you

all, stay with me, in my heart and in my thoughts throughout the day'.

 

This morning, as I was changing the water, which I leave in a stainless

tumbler each morning on my alter for the deities to drink in case they're

thirsty, the color of the water had changed to milky in color. I've used

only water, no milk at all in that tumbler. Also, on the day of 'Ganesh

Chaturthi', I found a 'one inch long white rock candy just below 'Lakshmi's

picture', I figured it was a gift for me so I ate it.

 

I hope this is a good sign.

 

Lada

 

 

 

 

L. Baines

 

 

 

 

karisprowl [karisprowl]

September 3, 2003 9:35 AM

 

RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

 

 

Many of us believe, I think, that women can wear them right through

the month. As DDji reminds us, women are even CLEANER, as the old

blood leaves the womb. The stuff that is no longer useable is coming

OUT.

 

I know I wear my beads, without respect to monthlies.

 

K.

 

 

, "Baines, Lada

AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day ritual,

for those

> who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each month.

>

> Lada

>

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

> sakthi [sakthiguru@s...]

> September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

>

> Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

>

> -

> "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> <>

> Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:12 AM

> RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> > comes back online.

> >

> > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

in

> > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

for

> > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

cultures.

> > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

> >

> > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

takes

> > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

malas

> > not be "swapped around."

> >

> > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

mukhi

> > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

without

> > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

and

> > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> >

> > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> >

> > Take all the very best care, Kari

> >

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > >

> > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

Is

> > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

not

> > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> > the

> > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

very

> > > individual...

> > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > right

> > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

#3643

> > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

horoscope

> > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > > them. What would be your fee?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

, "ShiningLotus"

> > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

with

> > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > >

> > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

initial

> > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

of

> > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > > Beads

> > > >

> > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > where

> > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

place

> > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> > day

> > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

continue

> > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > > Ashley Farrand

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > >

> > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > >

> > > > DharmaDev

> > > >

> > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > >

> > > <>

> > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > >

> > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

wearing

> > > the

> > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

centre

> > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

puja

> > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

days

> > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> > mala

> > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > > would

> > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

from

> > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > > effect

> > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > >

> > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya

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I think the candy is unmistakeable. Again, I'm no Hinduism expert,

but isn't Lord Ganesha associated with milk?

 

Don't beat yourself up. You are doing more than I am doing. I start

at 6:30 a.m. Long hours, stressed out bosses, calls all day from

frantic clients. I am the lead, and we are understaffed. Often too

spent to do anything, after work. Similar situation to yours, at

least workwise, no?

 

I have just a few inviolables that are absolute MINUMUMS. Pujas to

Lord Ganesha and Hanumaan once per month, each. A minimum of 20

minutes of meditation in the evenings, and 10 in the mornings. More,

if I can make the time. Meditation is not possible, at work.

 

My schedule has been so crazy, that I am often to tired to work out.

So, a few of us take a 15 minute break, in the p.m., and climb the

stairs (lobby to 27th floor). If I don't work out, I will get too

ungrounded to do anything religious.

 

My point is.. time and events are moving faster, in the Kaliyuga, and

even faster than that in the U.S., I think. So, we clear time when we

can clear time. I think we are forgiven that. In fact, I'm sure of

it.

 

Love, K.

 

-- In , "Baines, Lada

AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Thnx Sis. appreciate your response. This is a very busy time of

the year

> for me workwise. I have been working overtime, just about everyday

and

> week-ends. After work, running off to my 'Hot Yoga'. As I suffer

from

> fibromyalgia, getting up early in the morning is a chore. I

haven't been

> able to chant all of my mantras. At work in the mornings I push

paper, and

> afternoons I deal with my clients. So I plug myself to my headsets

and

> listen to all my mantra tapes at work, with interruptions in

between. I

> have been feeling very guilty about this, as I leave for work each

morning,

> I do a shortcut pooja, and I say to them...'you know how much I

love you

> all, stay with me, in my heart and in my thoughts throughout the

day'.

>

> This morning, as I was changing the water, which I leave in a

stainless

> tumbler each morning on my alter for the deities to drink in case

they're

> thirsty, the color of the water had changed to milky in color.

I've used

> only water, no milk at all in that tumbler. Also, on the day

of 'Ganesh

> Chaturthi', I found a 'one inch long white rock candy just

below 'Lakshmi's

> picture', I figured it was a gift for me so I ate it.

>

> I hope this is a good sign.

>

> Lada

>

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

>

> karisprowl [karisprowl@e...]

> September 3, 2003 9:35 AM

>

> RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> Many of us believe, I think, that women can wear them right through

> the month. As DDji reminds us, women are even CLEANER, as the old

> blood leaves the womb. The stuff that is no longer useable is

coming

> OUT.

>

> I know I wear my beads, without respect to monthlies.

>

> K.

>

>

> , "Baines, Lada

> AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> > Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day ritual,

> for those

> > who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each month.

> >

> > Lada

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > L. Baines

> >

> >

> >

> > sakthi [sakthiguru@s...]

> > September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

> >

> > Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> > <>

> > Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:12 AM

> > RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >

> >

> > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

he

> > > comes back online.

> > >

> > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

addressed

> in

> > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

standard

> for

> > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> cultures.

> > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

up.

> > >

> > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

beads'

> > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

> takes

> > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> malas

> > > not be "swapped around."

> > >

> > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> mukhi

> > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

any "jarring"

> > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> without

> > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

Some

> > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

> and

> > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > >

> > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > >

> > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > > , "alstrup"

> > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > >

> > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

discipline?

> Is

> > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

> not

> > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

specific

> > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

bad

> > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing

of

> > > the

> > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

Are

> > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

with

> > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must

be

> very

> > > > individual...

> > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > > right

> > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

> #3643

> > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> horoscope

> > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look

at

> > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Ole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> with

> > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > >

> > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> initial

> > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

balanceing

> of

> > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

Mukhi

> > > > Beads

> > > > >

> > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > > where

> > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> place

> > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is

the

> > > day

> > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> continue

> > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

Thomas

> > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > >

> > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > >

> > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > >

> > > > <>

> > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> wearing

> > > > the

> > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> centre

> > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

the

> puja

> > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> days

> > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

5mukhi

> > > mala

> > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

necklace i

> > > > would

> > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

apart

> from

> > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

the

> > > > effect

> > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > >

> > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya

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Kari:

 

I was under the impression that non of you worked. So do you just wear the

beads and not chant any mantras???

 

What did you mean by unmistakeable?? I have other things materialize in

bits and peices before.

 

Lada

 

 

 

L. Baines

 

 

 

 

karisprowl [karisprowl]

September 3, 2003 10:23 AM

 

RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

 

 

I think the candy is unmistakeable. Again, I'm no Hinduism expert,

but isn't Lord Ganesha associated with milk?

 

Don't beat yourself up. You are doing more than I am doing. I start

at 6:30 a.m. Long hours, stressed out bosses, calls all day from

frantic clients. I am the lead, and we are understaffed. Often too

spent to do anything, after work. Similar situation to yours, at

least workwise, no?

 

I have just a few inviolables that are absolute MINUMUMS. Pujas to

Lord Ganesha and Hanumaan once per month, each. A minimum of 20

minutes of meditation in the evenings, and 10 in the mornings. More,

if I can make the time. Meditation is not possible, at work.

 

My schedule has been so crazy, that I am often to tired to work out.

So, a few of us take a 15 minute break, in the p.m., and climb the

stairs (lobby to 27th floor). If I don't work out, I will get too

ungrounded to do anything religious.

 

My point is.. time and events are moving faster, in the Kaliyuga, and

even faster than that in the U.S., I think. So, we clear time when we

can clear time. I think we are forgiven that. In fact, I'm sure of

it.

 

Love, K.

 

-- In , "Baines, Lada

AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Thnx Sis. appreciate your response. This is a very busy time of

the year

> for me workwise. I have been working overtime, just about everyday

and

> week-ends. After work, running off to my 'Hot Yoga'. As I suffer

from

> fibromyalgia, getting up early in the morning is a chore. I

haven't been

> able to chant all of my mantras. At work in the mornings I push

paper, and

> afternoons I deal with my clients. So I plug myself to my headsets

and

> listen to all my mantra tapes at work, with interruptions in

between. I

> have been feeling very guilty about this, as I leave for work each

morning,

> I do a shortcut pooja, and I say to them...'you know how much I

love you

> all, stay with me, in my heart and in my thoughts throughout the

day'.

>

> This morning, as I was changing the water, which I leave in a

stainless

> tumbler each morning on my alter for the deities to drink in case

they're

> thirsty, the color of the water had changed to milky in color.

I've used

> only water, no milk at all in that tumbler. Also, on the day

of 'Ganesh

> Chaturthi', I found a 'one inch long white rock candy just

below 'Lakshmi's

> picture', I figured it was a gift for me so I ate it.

>

> I hope this is a good sign.

>

> Lada

>

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

>

> karisprowl [karisprowl@e...]

> September 3, 2003 9:35 AM

>

> RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> Many of us believe, I think, that women can wear them right through

> the month. As DDji reminds us, women are even CLEANER, as the old

> blood leaves the womb. The stuff that is no longer useable is

coming

> OUT.

>

> I know I wear my beads, without respect to monthlies.

>

> K.

>

>

> , "Baines, Lada

> AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> > Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day ritual,

> for those

> > who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each month.

> >

> > Lada

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > L. Baines

> >

> >

> >

> > sakthi [sakthiguru@s...]

> > September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

> >

> > Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> > <>

> > Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:12 AM

> > RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >

> >

> > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

he

> > > comes back online.

> > >

> > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

addressed

> in

> > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

standard

> for

> > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> cultures.

> > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

up.

> > >

> > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

beads'

> > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

> takes

> > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> malas

> > > not be "swapped around."

> > >

> > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> mukhi

> > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

any "jarring"

> > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> without

> > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

Some

> > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

> and

> > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > >

> > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > >

> > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > > , "alstrup"

> > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > >

> > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

discipline?

> Is

> > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

> not

> > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

specific

> > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

bad

> > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing

of

> > > the

> > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

Are

> > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

with

> > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must

be

> very

> > > > individual...

> > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > > right

> > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

> #3643

> > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> horoscope

> > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look

at

> > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Ole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> with

> > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > >

> > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> initial

> > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

balanceing

> of

> > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

Mukhi

> > > > Beads

> > > > >

> > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > > where

> > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> place

> > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is

the

> > > day

> > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> continue

> > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

Thomas

> > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > >

> > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > >

> > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > >

> > > > <>

> > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> wearing

> > > > the

> > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> centre

> > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

the

> puja

> > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> days

> > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

5mukhi

> > > mala

> > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

necklace i

> > > > would

> > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

apart

> from

> > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

the

> > > > effect

> > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > >

> > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

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, "Baines, Lada

AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Kari:

>

> I was under the impression that non of you worked.

 

Don't I wish? <g> Maybe, someday, Lady Laxmi will give me the

wherewithal to be a lady of leisure. But, She hasn't, so far. <g>

 

So do you just wear the

> beads and not chant any mantras???

 

You CAN just wear the beads, and not chant any mantram. They'll still

work. I use mine for japa meditation, using a Shiva mantra, everyday.

Because they are Shiva's tears.

>

 

Some people keep separate malas for wearing and chanting.

 

Some people don't wear them, at all-- they just keep them on the

altar.

 

Some people wear them, but don't do puja or meditate.

 

I think it's important to do whatever works best for you. I use mine

for japa, because I feel that meditating, using the beads, builds a

relationship with them, and also with Lord Shiva.

 

> What did you mean by unmistakeable?? I have other things

materialize in

> bits and pieces before.

 

I just have the impression, given the circumstances you've described,

that they are, indeed, likely a gift from Lady Laxmi. Just my take.

>

> Lada

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

>

> karisprowl [karisprowl@e...]

> September 3, 2003 10:23 AM

>

> RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> I think the candy is unmistakeable. Again, I'm no Hinduism expert,

> but isn't Lord Ganesha associated with milk?

>

> Don't beat yourself up. You are doing more than I am doing. I start

> at 6:30 a.m. Long hours, stressed out bosses, calls all day from

> frantic clients. I am the lead, and we are understaffed. Often too

> spent to do anything, after work. Similar situation to yours, at

> least workwise, no?

>

> I have just a few inviolables that are absolute MINUMUMS. Pujas to

> Lord Ganesha and Hanumaan once per month, each. A minimum of 20

> minutes of meditation in the evenings, and 10 in the mornings.

More,

> if I can make the time. Meditation is not possible, at work.

>

> My schedule has been so crazy, that I am often to tired to work

out.

> So, a few of us take a 15 minute break, in the p.m., and climb the

> stairs (lobby to 27th floor). If I don't work out, I will get too

> ungrounded to do anything religious.

>

> My point is.. time and events are moving faster, in the Kaliyuga,

and

> even faster than that in the U.S., I think. So, we clear time when

we

> can clear time. I think we are forgiven that. In fact, I'm sure of

> it.

>

> Love, K.

>

> -- In , "Baines, Lada

> AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> > Thnx Sis. appreciate your response. This is a very busy time of

> the year

> > for me workwise. I have been working overtime, just about

everyday

> and

> > week-ends. After work, running off to my 'Hot Yoga'. As I

suffer

> from

> > fibromyalgia, getting up early in the morning is a chore. I

> haven't been

> > able to chant all of my mantras. At work in the mornings I push

> paper, and

> > afternoons I deal with my clients. So I plug myself to my

headsets

> and

> > listen to all my mantra tapes at work, with interruptions in

> between. I

> > have been feeling very guilty about this, as I leave for work

each

> morning,

> > I do a shortcut pooja, and I say to them...'you know how much I

> love you

> > all, stay with me, in my heart and in my thoughts throughout the

> day'.

> >

> > This morning, as I was changing the water, which I leave in a

> stainless

> > tumbler each morning on my alter for the deities to drink in case

> they're

> > thirsty, the color of the water had changed to milky in color.

> I've used

> > only water, no milk at all in that tumbler. Also, on the day

> of 'Ganesh

> > Chaturthi', I found a 'one inch long white rock candy just

> below 'Lakshmi's

> > picture', I figured it was a gift for me so I ate it.

> >

> > I hope this is a good sign.

> >

> > Lada

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > L. Baines

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > karisprowl [karisprowl@e...]

> > September 3, 2003 9:35 AM

> >

> > RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >

> >

> > Many of us believe, I think, that women can wear them right

through

> > the month. As DDji reminds us, women are even CLEANER, as the old

> > blood leaves the womb. The stuff that is no longer useable is

> coming

> > OUT.

> >

> > I know I wear my beads, without respect to monthlies.

> >

> > K.

> >

> >

> > , "Baines, Lada

> > AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> > > Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day

ritual,

> > for those

> > > who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each

month.

> > >

> > > Lada

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > L. Baines

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sakthi [sakthiguru@s...]

> > > September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

> > >

> > > Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> > > <>

> > > Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:12 AM

> > > RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> > >

> > >

> > > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer,

until

> he

> > > > comes back online.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

> addressed

> > in

> > > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

> standard

> > for

> > > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > cultures.

> > > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

engine,

> > > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

> up.

> > > >

> > > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

> beads'

> > > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like

it

> > takes

> > > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

one's

> > > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

days.

> > > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended

that

> > malas

> > > > not be "swapped around."

> > > >

> > > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the

lower

> > mukhi

> > > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

> any "jarring"

> > > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> > without

> > > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

> Some

> > > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing

15s

> > and

> > > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > > >

> > > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > > >

> > > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "alstrup"

> > > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > > >

> > > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

> discipline?

> > Is

> > > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

could

> > not

> > > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

> specific

> > > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

> bad

> > > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

wearing

> of

> > > > the

> > > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

> Are

> > > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

> with

> > > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must

> be

> > very

> > > > > individual...

> > > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to

get

> > > > right

> > > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings

at

> > #3643

> > > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > horoscope

> > > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

look

> at

> > > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Ole

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your

practice

> > with

> > > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> > initial

> > > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

> balanceing

> > of

> > > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

> Mukhi

> > > > > Beads

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a

day

> > > > where

> > > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot

take

> > place

> > > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that

is

> the

> > > > day

> > > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > continue

> > > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is

same

> > > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

> Thomas

> > > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > > >

> > > > > <>

> > > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> > wearing

> > > > > the

> > > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from

rudra

> > centre

> > > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

> the

> > puja

> > > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the

40

> > days

> > > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

> 5mukhi

> > > > mala

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> > > > > would

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> apart

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> > > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

> the

> > > > > effect

> > > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > > >

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Dear Ladaji,

When I was working a stressful job, I asked my guru about how long I should

meditate. He said to just do it every morning and evening and that the length

of time would take care of itself. He said that regularity was improtant. I

have found that to be the case. It certainly sounds like Sri Ganesh and Sri

Laxmi have blessed you. May their blessings continue without a break!

Jai Sridaya! Jai Sridayi!

Arjuna

 

"Baines, Lada AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines wrote:

Thnx Sis. appreciate your response. This is a very busy time of the year

for me workwise. I have been working overtime, just about everyday and

week-ends. After work, running off to my 'Hot Yoga'. As I suffer from

fibromyalgia, getting up early in the morning is a chore. I haven't been

able to chant all of my mantras. At work in the mornings I push paper, and

afternoons I deal with my clients. So I plug myself to my headsets and

listen to all my mantra tapes at work, with interruptions in between. I

have been feeling very guilty about this, as I leave for work each morning,

I do a shortcut pooja, and I say to them...'you know how much I love you

all, stay with me, in my heart and in my thoughts throughout the day'.

 

This morning, as I was changing the water, which I leave in a stainless

tumbler each morning on my alter for the deities to drink in case they're

thirsty, the color of the water had changed to milky in color. I've used

only water, no milk at all in that tumbler. Also, on the day of 'Ganesh

Chaturthi', I found a 'one inch long white rock candy just below 'Lakshmi's

picture', I figured it was a gift for me so I ate it.

 

I hope this is a good sign.

 

Lada

 

 

 

 

L. Baines

 

 

 

 

karisprowl [karisprowl]

September 3, 2003 9:35 AM

 

RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

 

 

Many of us believe, I think, that women can wear them right through

the month. As DDji reminds us, women are even CLEANER, as the old

blood leaves the womb. The stuff that is no longer useable is coming

OUT.

 

I know I wear my beads, without respect to monthlies.

 

K.

 

 

, "Baines, Lada

AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day ritual,

for those

> who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each month.

>

> Lada

>

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

> sakthi [sakthiguru@s...]

> September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

>

> Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

>

> -

> "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> <>

> Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:12 AM

> RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> > comes back online.

> >

> > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

in

> > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

for

> > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

cultures.

> > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

> >

> > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

takes

> > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

malas

> > not be "swapped around."

> >

> > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

mukhi

> > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

without

> > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

and

> > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> >

> > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> >

> > Take all the very best care, Kari

> >

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > >

> > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

Is

> > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

not

> > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> > the

> > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

very

> > > individual...

> > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > right

> > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

#3643

> > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

horoscope

> > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > > them. What would be your fee?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

, "ShiningLotus"

> > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

with

> > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > >

> > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

initial

> > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

of

> > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > > Beads

> > > >

> > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > where

> > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

place

> > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> > day

> > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

continue

> > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > > Ashley Farrand

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > >

> > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > >

> > > > DharmaDev

> > > >

> > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > >

> > > <>

> > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > >

> > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

wearing

> > > the

> > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

centre

> > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

puja

> > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

days

> > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> > mala

> > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > > would

> > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

from

> > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > > effect

> > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > >

> > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Brother:

 

ThankQ so much for your analysis. Actually, I had done the 'Lakshmi Ganesh'

pooja on Saturday. I wasn't very successful with the 'laddoo' recipe,

however, they tasted great, but were a little soft. It took me all day to

make the laddoos, so I had done my pooja late afternoon. I managed to make

108 laddoos. I guess they must have been impressed!

 

ThankQ again.

Lada

 

 

 

 

L. Baines

 

 

 

 

Arjuna [arjunaacharya]

September 3, 2003 12:05 PM

 

RE: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

 

 

Dear Ladaji,

When I was working a stressful job, I asked my guru about how long I should

meditate. He said to just do it every morning and evening and that the

length of time would take care of itself. He said that regularity was

improtant. I have found that to be the case. It certainly sounds like Sri

Ganesh and Sri Laxmi have blessed you. May their blessings continue without

a break!

Jai Sridaya! Jai Sridayi!

Arjuna

 

"Baines, Lada AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines wrote:

Thnx Sis. appreciate your response. This is a very busy time of the year

for me workwise. I have been working overtime, just about everyday and

week-ends. After work, running off to my 'Hot Yoga'. As I suffer from

fibromyalgia, getting up early in the morning is a chore. I haven't been

able to chant all of my mantras. At work in the mornings I push paper, and

afternoons I deal with my clients. So I plug myself to my headsets and

listen to all my mantra tapes at work, with interruptions in between. I

have been feeling very guilty about this, as I leave for work each morning,

I do a shortcut pooja, and I say to them...'you know how much I love you

all, stay with me, in my heart and in my thoughts throughout the day'.

 

This morning, as I was changing the water, which I leave in a stainless

tumbler each morning on my alter for the deities to drink in case they're

thirsty, the color of the water had changed to milky in color. I've used

only water, no milk at all in that tumbler. Also, on the day of 'Ganesh

Chaturthi', I found a 'one inch long white rock candy just below 'Lakshmi's

picture', I figured it was a gift for me so I ate it.

 

I hope this is a good sign.

 

Lada

 

 

 

 

L. Baines

 

 

 

 

karisprowl [karisprowl]

September 3, 2003 9:35 AM

 

RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

 

 

Many of us believe, I think, that women can wear them right through

the month. As DDji reminds us, women are even CLEANER, as the old

blood leaves the womb. The stuff that is no longer useable is coming

OUT.

 

I know I wear my beads, without respect to monthlies.

 

K.

 

 

, "Baines, Lada

AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day ritual,

for those

> who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each month.

>

> Lada

>

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

> sakthi [sakthiguru@s...]

> September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

>

> Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

>

> -

> "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> <>

> Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:12 AM

> RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> > comes back online.

> >

> > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

in

> > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

for

> > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

cultures.

> > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

> >

> > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

takes

> > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

malas

> > not be "swapped around."

> >

> > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

mukhi

> > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

without

> > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

and

> > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> >

> > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> >

> > Take all the very best care, Kari

> >

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > >

> > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

Is

> > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

not

> > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> > the

> > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

very

> > > individual...

> > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > right

> > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

#3643

> > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

horoscope

> > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > > them. What would be your fee?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

, "ShiningLotus"

> > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

with

> > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > >

> > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

initial

> > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

of

> > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > > Beads

> > > >

> > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > where

> > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

place

> > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> > day

> > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

continue

> > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > > Ashley Farrand

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > >

> > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > >

> > > > DharmaDev

> > > >

> > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > >

> > > <>

> > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > >

> > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

wearing

> > > the

> > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

centre

> > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

puja

> > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

days

> > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> > mala

> > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > > would

> > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

from

> > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > > effect

> > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > >

> > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya

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I guess they WERE impressed, if they left you milk and candy! <g>

 

Love, K.

 

, "Baines, Lada

AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Dear Brother:

>

> ThankQ so much for your analysis. Actually, I had done

the 'Lakshmi Ganesh'

> pooja on Saturday. I wasn't very successful with the 'laddoo'

recipe,

> however, they tasted great, but were a little soft. It took me all

day to

> make the laddoos, so I had done my pooja late afternoon. I managed

to make

> 108 laddoos. I guess they must have been impressed!

>

> ThankQ again.

> Lada

>

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

>

> Arjuna [arjunaacharya]

> September 3, 2003 12:05 PM

>

> RE: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> Dear Ladaji,

> When I was working a stressful job, I asked my guru about how long

I should

> meditate. He said to just do it every morning and evening and that

the

> length of time would take care of itself. He said that regularity

was

> improtant. I have found that to be the case. It certainly sounds

like Sri

> Ganesh and Sri Laxmi have blessed you. May their blessings

continue without

> a break!

> Jai Sridaya! Jai Sridayi!

> Arjuna

>

> "Baines, Lada AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> Thnx Sis. appreciate your response. This is a very busy time of

the year

> for me workwise. I have been working overtime, just about everyday

and

> week-ends. After work, running off to my 'Hot Yoga'. As I suffer

from

> fibromyalgia, getting up early in the morning is a chore. I

haven't been

> able to chant all of my mantras. At work in the mornings I push

paper, and

> afternoons I deal with my clients. So I plug myself to my headsets

and

> listen to all my mantra tapes at work, with interruptions in

between. I

> have been feeling very guilty about this, as I leave for work each

morning,

> I do a shortcut pooja, and I say to them...'you know how much I

love you

> all, stay with me, in my heart and in my thoughts throughout the

day'.

>

> This morning, as I was changing the water, which I leave in a

stainless

> tumbler each morning on my alter for the deities to drink in case

they're

> thirsty, the color of the water had changed to milky in color.

I've used

> only water, no milk at all in that tumbler. Also, on the day

of 'Ganesh

> Chaturthi', I found a 'one inch long white rock candy just

below 'Lakshmi's

> picture', I figured it was a gift for me so I ate it.

>

> I hope this is a good sign.

>

> Lada

>

>

>

>

> L. Baines

>

>

>

>

> karisprowl [karisprowl@e...]

> September 3, 2003 9:35 AM

>

> RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

>

>

> Many of us believe, I think, that women can wear them right through

> the month. As DDji reminds us, women are even CLEANER, as the old

> blood leaves the womb. The stuff that is no longer useable is

coming

> OUT.

>

> I know I wear my beads, without respect to monthlies.

>

> K.

>

>

> , "Baines, Lada

> AVED:EX" <Lada.Baines@g...> wrote:

> > Just out of curiosity, how do women deal with this 40day ritual,

> for those

> > who are not suppose to wear them for the 3to 5 days each month.

> >

> > Lada

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > L. Baines

> >

> >

> >

> > sakthi [sakthiguru@s...]

> > September 3, 2003 1:51 AM

> >

> > Re: RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...>

> > <>

> > Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:12 AM

> > RBSC : Re: 40 days discipline / Detox

> >

> >

> > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

he

> > > comes back online.

> > >

> > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

addressed

> in

> > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

standard

> for

> > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> cultures.

> > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

up.

> > >

> > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

beads'

> > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

> takes

> > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> malas

> > > not be "swapped around."

> > >

> > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> mukhi

> > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

any "jarring"

> > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> without

> > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

Some

> > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

> and

> > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > >

> > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > >

> > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > > , "alstrup"

> > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > >

> > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

discipline?

> Is

> > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

> not

> > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

specific

> > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

bad

> > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing

of

> > > the

> > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

Are

> > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

with

> > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must

be

> very

> > > > individual...

> > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > > right

> > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

> #3643

> > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> horoscope

> > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look

at

> > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Ole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> with

> > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > >

> > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> initial

> > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

balanceing

> of

> > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

Mukhi

> > > > Beads

> > > > >

> > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > > where

> > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> place

> > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is

the

> > > day

> > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> continue

> > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

Thomas

> > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > >

> > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > >

> > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > >

> > > > <>

> > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> wearing

> > > > the

> > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> centre

> > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

the

> puja

> > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> days

> > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

5mukhi

> > > mala

> > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

necklace i

> > > > would

> > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

apart

> from

> > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

the

> > > > effect

> > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > >

> > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya

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