Round One Mukhi and Nirakar Nepali Rudraksha found!

February 17, 2006

Dear Richard and Friends,

I was just visiting the site of Nepa Rudraksha, considered to be one

of the most authentic and reliable wholesellers of the Nepali

Rudraksha. I believe they supply the majority of the large Indian

retailers. They have just added the STUNNING DISCOVERY, the first in

their 40 years of doing business, of GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND

NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY INCREDIBLE!!!

I believe we can be sure these beads are the real thing, Nepa

Rudraksha have an impeccable reputation and would definitely not risk

to jeopardize this by offering fake beads.

Go to http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of these most

rare Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada for

more information and will update as soon as I learn more.

~ Ole

February 18, 2006

I totally disagree with Mr. Alstrup that GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND NIRAKAR

NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, found in Nepal. I have visited the link and these are fake

ones which you can get in Rs. 500 to 1100 nepali currency. So Bhaktajans do

not get carried away by these unholy beads.

He may be a good supplier of Rudraksha but definitely not the best one. The

best is only one is only Rudra Centre which does not deal at all in so called

GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA. They have also been

approached with these kinds of beads by different suppliers but they do not

deal in these fake beads.

These are those beads which naturally has not completely formed and only 1 face

of these beads is only formed. So be careful, the only check is to cut one bead

and see whether there is only one seed inside. Can he do it to prove its

genuity???.

Om Rudraye Namaha

Juliane Terrysacred-objects, "alstrup" <alstrup

wrote:>> Dear Richard and Friends,> > I was just visiting the site of Nepa

Rudraksha, considered to be one> of the most authentic and reliable

wholesellers of the Nepali> Rudraksha. I believe they supply the majority of

the large Indian> retailers. They have just added the STUNNING DISCOVERY, the

first in> their 40 years of doing business, of GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND >

NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY INCREDIBLE!!!> > I believe we can

be sure these beads are the real thing, Nepa > Rudraksha have an impeccable

reputation and would definitely not risk > to jeopardize this by offering fake

beads.> > Go to http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of these most>

rare Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada for > more

information and will update as soon as I learn more. > > ~ Ole>

February 18, 2006

whether there is only one seed inside. Can he do it to prove its genuity???. Om

Rudraye Namaha Juliane Terrysacred-objects, "alstrup"

<alstrup wrote:>> Dear Richard and Friends,> > I was just visiting the

site of Nepa Rudraksha, considered to be one> of the most authentic and

reliable wholesellers of the Nepali> Rudraksha. I believe they supply the

majority of the large Indian> retailers. They have just added the STUNNING

DISCOVERY, the first in> their 40 years of doing business, of GENUINE ROUND ONE

MUKHI AND > NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY INCREDIBLE!!!> > I

believe we can be sure these beads are the real thing, Nepa > Rudraksha have an

impeccable reputation and would definitely not risk > to jeopardize this by

offering fake beads.> > Go to http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take

Darshan of these most> rare Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda

Khatiwada for > more information and will update as soon as I learn more. > > ~

Ole>

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February 18, 2006

Dear All,

A round Ekmukhi is present with the Son in Law of the home minister

of Rajasthan. It was gifted 20 years back. A Jain Sadhu visited his

place and gifted it to him.

I will try to get the photograph of this bead. According to him the

bead rotates while it is kept in hand.

I want to test his claims. One of my close friends who is in South

Africa had also seen a piece many years back. It was there with his

Guruji. According to him this bead used to rotate while kept in hand.

So many mouths and so many claims. I will try to find out the whole

truth related to ek Mukhi. I have also seen the photographs of the

bead on the website. It is not round first of all. Secondly the beads

like that are culutured in Haridwar. They are round and real. But

they are not natural and are available at the price of 2700 Rs

onwards.

I have seen lot of them. They too are not round.

Regards

Alok

PS: Truth is difficult and bitter. But illusions taste the same.

February 18, 2006

impeccable reputation and would definitely not risk to jeopardize this by

offering fake beads.Go to http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of

these mostrare Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada for

more information and will update as soon as I learn more. ~ Ole

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February 19, 2006

chopra <chopradeven81 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: i ordered few months ago from nepa

rudraksh a and that guy sent me severly cracked beads even the secons time

they sent me cracked beads Since then i have only ordered from rudra center

DEVENalstrup <alstrup > wrote: Dear Richard and Friends,I was just

visiting the site of Nepa Rudraksha, considered to be oneof the most authentic

and reliable wholesellers of the NepaliRudraksha. I believe they supply the

majority of the large Indianretailers. They have just added the STUNNING

DISCOVERY, the first intheir 40 years of doing business, of GENUINE ROUND ONE

MUKHI AND NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY INCREDIBLE!!!I believe we

can be sure these beads are the real thing, Nepa Rudraksha have an impeccable

reputation and would definitely not risk to jeopardize this by offering fake

beads.Go to http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of these mostrare

Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada for more information

and will update as soon as I learn more. ~ Ole Jiyo cricket on India

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February 19, 2006

Hi Friends,

I am Siddharth Mishra. I have recently joined this group as I found

some interesting discussion going on about Ek Mukhi ( 1 MUKHI)

Rudraksha. At the outset I would like to submit that I am into

business of Rudraksha since 5 years and I am teaching Rudraksha

Therapy at Hydrabad. I have visited Nepal and I know all the Nepali

Suppliers and their credentials.

I had visited the link which was sent by one of the group member

about one site claiming that they have 1 mukhi Rudraksha. First of

all let us be very clear that any Rudraksha will have seeds inside

which are actual the source of energy of a bead. It is a proven fact

that a 5 mukhi bead if cut laterally will have 5 seeds inside it and

same goes for any other mukhi bead. A 10 Mukhi will definite have 10

seeds inside. Now the bead which is shown in the site, Friends

believe me this is actually a 4 mukhi Rudraksha whose mukhs have not

formed completely. If you see this bead clearly you will see that it

has four impressions like a 4 Mukhi bead and which actually could

have converted to 4 mukhs of the bead if formed properly. This is a

genuine 4 mukhi rudraksha but definitely not 1 Mukhi Rudraksha as

claimed by the site. Tomorrow I will try to post the cut section of

a similar bead which does not have even 1 line. I have now learnt

that this bead is called as Nirakar bead. There is no such name

mentioned in our ancient text. Infact the description of beads after

14 mukhi is only mentioned in katiyani puran, otherwise there is no

mention of any properties or description available from 15 Mukhi

onwards in any of the text.

Yes I agree that a javanese 1 mukhi has a clear 1 line on the bead

and when it is cut laterally then only one seed is seen. A two mukhi

javanese bead similarly have two seeds inside. I feel javanese one

mukhi is more authentic than even Indian Kaju shaped 1 mukhi. And

have you noticed the shape of 1 mukhi Javanese bead it is just like

a flattened and tappered bead.

I want to further submit that botanically 1 mukhi round bead can

never exist. Simple logic behind this is thatif we srr a 6 mukhi or

five mukhi they will be round beads to the perfection, if we see a 4

mukhi bead , we will find it a bit squarish shaped, if we see a

three mukhi we find it a bit triangular shaped, if we see a 2 mukhi

bead we find it a bit more flat, so in nut shell as the mukhs of the

bead reduces the bead becomes more and more tapered. Why ever we

have not found a perfect shaped 2 mukhi round bead, they will always

be flattened beads whether they are from Nepal, or India or

Indonesia. Similarly a 1 mukhi can never be round it will definitely

be a Kaju shaped or a haly moon shaped bead. Similarly if we go to

higher mukhis like 12 or 13 or 17 and above we will find them more

oval , I mean they will have more length and less breadth.

Now I challange the site that let it cut the bead laterally and if

it does not have 4 seeds I will pay the whole amount to the site

otherwise this site will promise to not to misguide the devotees any

more and dupe people on the name being a reputed site. A reputed

site cannot stoop to such low levels for petty monetary gains. My

suggestion is that it should be immediately removed from the site.

And Devotees pl just do not close your eyes because one particular

site has served you well once with the good beads. We should be very

very rational in our thinking. We should get the best bead for the

amount we are spending. Few devotees show their beads to me and say

that it is 20 years old bead and has been given by one Sadhu or

renowned Baba especially 1 mukhi Rudraksha and beleive me friends

they are all fake ones. Even old Babas I dont know from where they

could manage the fake 1 muhkis or Rudrakshas with artificially

carved Trishuls etc. The age of the Rudraksha can not make it a

genuine bead. Similarly now also the site is basically befooling the

devotees. So beware Freinds.

Aum Namah Shivaye

Siddharth Mishra

sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup

wrote:

>

> Really?! This is very odd to read. So what happened? I ordered 4

malas from Nepa Rudraksha and always received first class beads and

treatment. In 2003 I obtained a siddha mala with stunning collector

beads at much less price than Rudra Centre could offer. I did not

even order collector beads, as this was before the the term was

coined on the internet. We have also purchased from RC twice and

their selection of beads is great, except for one incident where my

wife received a 10 mukhi collector bead and it was quite smaller

than advertised. RC's artisanship is very good, I dont know if any

other retailer offer better quality for this at comparable prices.

>

> Having said this, I am happy that this sort of information can

be exchanged, but ubnfortunately I am also aware that negative

stories can easily be fabricated on forums in the name of promoting

business....

>

> ~ Ole

>

> deven chopra <chopradeven81 wrote:

> i ordered few months ago from nepa rudraksh a and that guy

sent me severly cracked beads

>

> even the secons time they sent me cracked beads

>

> Since then i have only ordered from rudra center

>

> DEVEN

>

> alstrup <alstrup wrote:

> Dear Richard and Friends,

>

> I was just visiting the site of Nepa Rudraksha, considered to be

one

> of the most authentic and reliable wholesellers of the Nepali

> Rudraksha. I believe they supply the majority of the large Indian

> retailers. They have just added the STUNNING DISCOVERY, the first

in

> their 40 years of doing business, of GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND

> NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY INCREDIBLE!!!

>

> I believe we can be sure these beads are the real thing, Nepa

> Rudraksha have an impeccable reputation and would definitely not

risk

> to jeopardize this by offering fake beads.

>

> Go to http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of these most

> rare Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada

for

> more information and will update as soon as I learn more.

>

> ~ Ole

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February 19, 2006

comment about the "Nirakar" bead, but I know that its name is not derived from

any scripture, I guess it means "no mukhi". It seems you are confusing the two

beads shown at the Nepa rudraksha site. Some more pics of the two bead will

shortly be uploaded at the Open Rudraksha Forum, courtesy by the owner

and moderator of that forum. I am informed that the One Mukhi round shown at

the site has its shape like three mukhi round nepali with only one mukhi, the

other mukhi is seen to be covered so it has to be considered as one mukhi as

well. It would be interesting to know how many Nepali suppliers are there and

what are their names? Also, what is the Katiyani Purana - an upa purana?

Where is it available? Thanks, ~ Olesidhmis <sidhmis > wrote: Hi

Friends,I am Siddharth Mishra. I have recently joined this group as I found

some interesting discussion going on about Ek Mukhi ( 1 MUKHI) Rudraksha. At

the outset I would like to submit that I am into business of Rudraksha since 5

years and I am teaching Rudraksha Therapy at Hydrabad. I have visited Nepal and

I know all the Nepali Suppliers and their credentials.I had visited the link

which was sent by one of the group member about one site claiming that they

have 1 mukhi Rudraksha. First of all let us be very clear that any Rudraksha

will have seeds inside which are actual the source of energy of a bead. It is a

proven fact that a 5 mukhi bead if cut laterally will have 5 seeds inside it and

same goes for any other mukhi bead. A 10 Mukhi will definite have 10 seeds

inside. Now the bead which is shown in the site, Friends believe me

this is actually a 4 mukhi Rudraksha whose mukhs have not formed completely. If

you see this bead clearly you will see that it has four impressions like a 4

Mukhi bead and which actually could have converted to 4 mukhs of the bead if

formed properly. This is a genuine 4 mukhi rudraksha but definitely not 1 Mukhi

Rudraksha as claimed by the site. Tomorrow I will try to post the cut section of

a similar bead which does not have even 1 line. I have now learnt that this bead

is called as Nirakar bead. There is no such name mentioned in our ancient text.

Infact the description of beads after 14 mukhi is only mentioned in katiyani

puran, otherwise there is no mention of any properties or description available

from 15 Mukhi onwards in any of the text. Yes I agree that a javanese 1 mukhi

has a clear 1 line on the bead and when it is cut laterally then only one seed

is seen. A two mukhi javanese bead similarly have two seeds inside. I

feel javanese one mukhi is more authentic than even Indian Kaju shaped 1 mukhi.

And have you noticed the shape of 1 mukhi Javanese bead it is just like a

flattened and tappered bead.I want to further submit that botanically 1 mukhi

round bead can never exist. Simple logic behind this is thatif we srr a 6 mukhi

or five mukhi they will be round beads to the perfection, if we see a 4 mukhi

bead , we will find it a bit squarish shaped, if we see a three mukhi we find

it a bit triangular shaped, if we see a 2 mukhi bead we find it a bit more

flat, so in nut shell as the mukhs of the bead reduces the bead becomes more

and more tapered. Why ever we have not found a perfect shaped 2 mukhi round

bead, they will always be flattened beads whether they are from Nepal, or India

or Indonesia. Similarly a 1 mukhi can never be round it will definitely be a

Kaju shaped or a haly moon shaped bead. Similarly if we go to higher mukhis

like 12

or 13 or 17 and above we will find them more oval , I mean they will have more

length and less breadth.Now I challange the site that let it cut the bead

laterally and if it does not have 4 seeds I will pay the whole amount to the

site otherwise this site will promise to not to misguide the devotees any more

and dupe people on the name being a reputed site. A reputed site cannot stoop

to such low levels for petty monetary gains. My suggestion is that it should be

immediately removed from the site.And Devotees pl just do not close your eyes

because one particular site has served you well once with the good beads. We

should be very very rational in our thinking. We should get the best bead for

the amount we are spending. Few devotees show their beads to me and say that it

is 20 years old bead and has been given by one Sadhu or renowned Baba especially

1 mukhi Rudraksha and beleive me friends they are all fake ones. Even old

Babas I dont know from where they could manage the fake 1 muhkis or Rudrakshas

with artificially carved Trishuls etc. The age of the Rudraksha can not make it

a genuine bead. Similarly now also the site is basically befooling the devotees.

So beware Freinds.Aum Namah ShivayeSiddharth Mishra--- In

sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup wrote:>> Really?!

This is very odd to read. So what happened? I ordered 4 malas from Nepa

Rudraksha and always received first class beads and treatment. In 2003 I

obtained a siddha mala with stunning collector beads at much less price than

Rudra Centre could offer. I did not even order collector beads, as this was

before the the term was coined on the internet. We have also purchased from RC

twice and their selection of beads is great, except for one incident where my

wife received a 10 mukhi collector bead and it

was quite smaller than advertised. RC's artisanship is very good, I dont know if

any other retailer offer better quality for this at comparable prices.> >

Having said this, I am happy that this sort of information can be exchanged,

but ubnfortunately I am also aware that negative stories can easily be

fabricated on forums in the name of promoting business....> > ~ Ole> >

deven chopra <chopradeven81 wrote:> i ordered few months ago from nepa

rudraksh a and that guy sent me severly cracked beads> > even the secons

time they sent me cracked beads> > Since then i have only ordered from

rudra center> > DEVEN> > alstrup <alstrup wrote:> Dear Richard

and Friends,> > I was just visiting the site of Nepa Rudraksha, considered to be

one> of the most authentic and reliable wholesellers of the Nepali> Rudraksha. I

believe they supply the majority of the large Indian> retailers. They have just

added the STUNNING DISCOVERY, the first in> their 40 years of doing business,

of GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND > NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY

INCREDIBLE!!!> > I believe we can be sure these beads are the real thing, Nepa

> Rudraksha have an impeccable reputation and would definitely not risk > to

jeopardize this by offering fake beads.> > Go to

http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of these most> rare Rudraksha

in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada for > more information and

will update as soon as I learn more. > > ~ Ole>

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February 19, 2006

rudrakshas available in the market are fake." The rudrakshas are categorised

according to the number of divisions or lines found on them. The Ekamukhi

rudraksha, for instance, has one line running across it. And, when a rudraksha

is horizontally cut into two, the number of chambers or seeds seen is equal to

the number of lines running over it. Mr. Rao heads a research team that works

on rudrakshas. The exhibition at C.P. Art Foundation, Alwarpet, which is open

till February 23 from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m., will also help the public to identify

real and fake rudrakshas. Rare pieces, including those with a single line to

those with 21 lines, are displayed at the exhibition. Some are exclusive

pieces that are available only in Nepal. The cost of pieces for sale range

from 22

paise to Rs.7 lakh.regardsGregwww.spacetrader.com.aua_jagawat wrote: Dear All,A

round Ekmukhi is present with the Son in Law of the home minister of Rajasthan.

It was gifted 20 years back. A Jain Sadhu visited his place and gifted it to

him.I will try to get the photograph of this bead. According to him the bead

rotates while it is kept in hand. I want to test his claims. One of my close

friends who is in South Africa had also seen a piece many years back. It was

there with his Guruji. According to him this bead used to rotate while kept in

hand.So many mouths and so many claims. I will try to find out the whole truth

related to ek Mukhi. I have also seen the photographs of the bead on the

website. It is not round first of all. Secondly the beads like

that are culutured in Haridwar. They are round and real. But they are not

natural and are available at the price of 2700 Rs onwards.I have seen lot of

them. They too are not round. RegardsAlokPS: Truth is difficult and bitter. But

illusions taste the same.

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February 19, 2006

Dear Siddharth ji,

namaste

Well said, Very well explained, Keep it up.

Yours

George Pillai

http://rudraaksha.com

> Hi Friends,

> I am Siddharth Mishra. I have recently joined this group as I found

> some interesting discussion going on about Ek Mukhi ( 1 MUKHI)

> Rudraksha. At the outset I would like to submit that I am into

> business of Rudraksha since 5 years and I am teaching Rudraksha

> Therapy at Hydrabad. I have visited Nepal and I know all the Nepali

> Suppliers and their credentials.

> I had visited the link which was sent by one of the group member

> about one site claiming that they have 1 mukhi Rudraksha. First of

> all let us be very clear that any Rudraksha will have seeds inside

> which are actual the source of energy of a bead. It is a proven fact

> that a 5 mukhi bead if cut laterally will have 5 seeds inside it and

> same goes for any other mukhi bead. A 10 Mukhi will definite have 10

> seeds inside. Now the bead which is shown in the site, Friends

> believe me this is actually a 4 mukhi Rudraksha whose mukhs have not

> formed completely. If you see this bead clearly you will see that it

> has four impressions like a 4 Mukhi bead and which actually could

> have converted to 4 mukhs of the bead if formed properly. This is a

> genuine 4 mukhi rudraksha but definitely not 1 Mukhi Rudraksha as

> claimed by the site. Tomorrow I will try to post the cut section of

> a similar bead which does not have even 1 line. I have now learnt

> that this bead is called as Nirakar bead. There is no such name

> mentioned in our ancient text. Infact the description of beads after

> 14 mukhi is only mentioned in katiyani puran, otherwise there is no

> mention of any properties or description available from 15 Mukhi

> onwards in any of the text.

> Yes I agree that a javanese 1 mukhi has a clear 1 line on the bead

> and when it is cut laterally then only one seed is seen. A two mukhi

> javanese bead similarly have two seeds inside. I feel javanese one

> mukhi is more authentic than even Indian Kaju shaped 1 mukhi. And

> have you noticed the shape of 1 mukhi Javanese bead it is just like

> a flattened and tappered bead.

> I want to further submit that botanically 1 mukhi round bead can

> never exist. Simple logic behind this is thatif we srr a 6 mukhi or

> five mukhi they will be round beads to the perfection, if we see a 4

> mukhi bead , we will find it a bit squarish shaped, if we see a

> three mukhi we find it a bit triangular shaped, if we see a 2 mukhi

> bead we find it a bit more flat, so in nut shell as the mukhs of the

> bead reduces the bead becomes more and more tapered. Why ever we

> have not found a perfect shaped 2 mukhi round bead, they will always

> be flattened beads whether they are from Nepal, or India or

> Indonesia. Similarly a 1 mukhi can never be round it will definitely

> be a Kaju shaped or a haly moon shaped bead. Similarly if we go to

> higher mukhis like 12 or 13 or 17 and above we will find them more

> oval , I mean they will have more length and less breadth.

> Now I challange the site that let it cut the bead laterally and if

> it does not have 4 seeds I will pay the whole amount to the site

> otherwise this site will promise to not to misguide the devotees any

> more and dupe people on the name being a reputed site. A reputed

> site cannot stoop to such low levels for petty monetary gains. My

> suggestion is that it should be immediately removed from the site.

> And Devotees pl just do not close your eyes because one particular

> site has served you well once with the good beads. We should be very

> very rational in our thinking. We should get the best bead for the

> amount we are spending. Few devotees show their beads to me and say

> that it is 20 years old bead and has been given by one Sadhu or

> renowned Baba especially 1 mukhi Rudraksha and beleive me friends

> they are all fake ones. Even old Babas I dont know from where they

> could manage the fake 1 muhkis or Rudrakshas with artificially

> carved Trishuls etc. The age of the Rudraksha can not make it a

> genuine bead. Similarly now also the site is basically befooling the

> devotees. So beware Freinds.

> Aum Namah Shivaye

> Siddharth Mishra

>

sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup

> wrote:

> >

> > Really?! This is very odd to read. So what happened? I ordered 4

> malas from Nepa Rudraksha and always received first class beads and

> treatment. In 2003 I obtained a siddha mala with stunning collector

> beads at much less price than Rudra Centre could offer. I did not

> even order collector beads, as this was before the the term was

> coined on the internet. We have also purchased from RC twice and

> their selection of beads is great, except for one incident where my

> wife received a 10 mukhi collector bead and it was quite smaller

> than advertised. RC's artisanship is very good, I dont know if any

> other retailer offer better quality for this at comparable prices.

> >

> > Having said this, I am happy that this sort of information can

> be exchanged, but ubnfortunately I am also aware that negative

> stories can easily be fabricated on forums in the name of promoting

> business....

> >

> > ~ Ole

> >

> > deven chopra wrote:

> > i ordered few months ago from nepa rudraksh a and that guy

> sent me severly cracked beads

> >

> > even the secons time they sent me cracked beads

> >

> > Since then i have only ordered from rudra center

> >

> > DEVEN

> >

> > alstrup wrote:

> > Dear Richard and Friends,

> >

> > I was just visiting the site of Nepa Rudraksha, considered to be

> one

> > of the most authentic and reliable wholesellers of the Nepali

> > Rudraksha. I believe they supply the majority of the large Indian

> > retailers. They have just added the STUNNING DISCOVERY, the first

> in

> > their 40 years of doing business, of GENUINE ROUND ONE MUKHI AND

> > NIRAKAR NEPALI RUDRAKSHA, WOW, THIS IS TRULY INCREDIBLE!!!

> >

> > I believe we can be sure these beads are the real thing, Nepa

> > Rudraksha have an impeccable reputation and would definitely not

> risk

> > to jeopardize this by offering fake beads.

> >

> > Go to http://www.nepalirudraksha.com/ to take Darshan of these most

> > rare Rudraksha in existence. I have contacted Mukunda Khatiwada

> for

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seeds inside. Here itself you are wrong my dear friend. Pl confirm from your

reputed site that what you are writing is correct or incorrect. Also pl confirm

from your Botanist friend too that what you are saying is right or wrong. If

they think that you are right then let them mail in the group and let other

devotees also know about the same. Pl Mr. Ole come out of your mind set . What

you are saying is absolutely incorrect. Let us not beat around the bush any

more. Tell me how many 8 mukhis if you cut say 100 will have 7 seeds inside ?

pl ponder on this. Our botanist Chandrashekharji can supply much input in

this field, as he has shared that at the RSBC group earlier on and also at the

open rudraksha forum. I want to hear from Mr. Chandrashekar that how many 8

mukhi will have 7 seeds inside or 9 seeds inside if he cuts 100 eight Mukhi

beads. Pl answer Mr.

Shekhar. I would refer anyone to look at David Zaremba's site at

www.rudraksha-center.com and click on inside rudraksha pictures. You will find

an examination of two 5 mukhis beads, which clearly prove this point. This is

not true. Yes some times it happens that two seeds are so close that they

appear to be one. But definitely it will not happen for all the 5 Mukhi beads.

And we cannot generalise that a 5 mukhi will have 4 seeds or 6 seeds. This

could be due to their abnormal growth. This is more of a diseased bead. It

happens in the little ones of animals and human being as well that they are

born with some abnormality. So they are treated to remove this abnormality. Not

that they become super human. So your theory that the number of seeds inside

is the source of the power in a bead is

therefore proven wrong. My theory is unchallengable. Because I know what I am

writing is true to the core. I am not taking anybody's names to prove my point.

I challenge any knowledgable person of Rudraksha will say the same thing what I

have been saying. You ask any one. Infact Lateral cutting is the only test by

which you can ascertain that the Rudraksha is actually how many mukhis. Again I

am sure your site person and Mr. Chandrashekhar will agree with me. I want to

read their comments and I am sure all group members would like to read. I

cannot comment about the "Nirakar" bead, but I know that its name is not

derived from any scripture, I guess it means "no mukhi". Yes it is good that

you are not commenting for some thing you do not know. Pl go to BISHAL BAZAR in

Kathmandu and you will see no. of shops in ground and first floor inside this

complex, pl ask them

whether they can give 'zero' mukhi bead and you will get atleast 5 TO 10 from

them which will either have no mukh or will have one mukh and believe me that

they are genuine ones. The cost would be Rs. 500 to Rs. 1000 NC(NEPALI

CURRENCY). Now here the difference is that on the site they are a bit refined

one, more good to look at. Thats all , but if cut laterally they will have 3

seeds or 4 seeds or 5 seeds. Believe me I am right because I have done it

myself so I dont need any credantials for any one. It seems you are confusing

the two beads shown at the Nepa rudraksha site. My logic and conviction is

beyond doubt. Pl be rest assured. I have done my homework thoroughly before

writing in this group. Some more pics of the two bead will shortly be

uploaded at the Open Rudraksha Forum, courtesy by the

owner and moderator of that forum. I am sure with all this discussion the site

person will not try to befool devotees any more. I am informed that the One

Mukhi round shown at the site has its shape like three mukhi round nepali with

only one mukhi, the other mukhi is seen to be covered so it has to be

considered as one mukhi as well. It does not happen the way you think. The

energy source in any bead is the seed inside. So even if the mukhs are covered

naturally the bead continues to be equivalent to the number of seeds inside.

Its affect will be same as the no. of seeds inside. Botanically it is not

possible to have 1 mukhi round bead. I again reitreate that it has to be flat

one and half moon shaped. It would be interesting to know how many Nepali

suppliers are there and what are their names? I

dont think this will matter in any way. Also, what is the Katiyani Purana - an

upa purana? Where is it available? Write me a personal mail. I will tell the

source where you can get this. My aim is not to take the shelter of any site

or any person otherwise people will start linking my name with them.

Thanks, Siddharthacharyasidhmis <sidhmis > wrote: Hi Friends,I am

Siddharth Mishra. I have recently joined this group as I found some interesting

discussion going on about Ek Mukhi ( 1 MUKHI) Rudraksha. At the outset I would

like to submit that I am into business of Rudraksha since 5 years and I am

teaching Rudraksha Therapy at Hydrabad. I have visited

Nepal and I know all the Nepali Suppliers and their credentials.I had visited

the link which was sent by one of the group member about one site claiming that

they have 1 mukhi Rudraksha. First of all let us be very clear that any

Rudraksha will have seeds inside which are actual the source of energy of a

bead. It is a proven fact that a 5 mukhi bead if cut laterally will have 5

seeds inside it and same goes for any other mukhi bead. A 10 Mukhi will

definite have 10 seeds inside. Now the bead which is shown in the site, Friends

believe me this is actually a 4 mukhi Rudraksha whose mukhs have not formed

completely. If you see this bead clearly you will see that it has four

impressions like a 4 Mukhi bead and which actually could have converted to 4

mukhs of the bead if formed properly. This is a genuine 4 mukhi rudraksha but

definitely not 1 Mukhi Rudraksha as claimed by the site. Tomorrow I will try to

post the cut section of

a similar bead which does not have even 1 line. I have now learnt that this bead

is called as Nirakar bead. There is no such name mentioned in our ancient text.

Infact the description of beads after 14 mukhi is only mentioned in katiyani

puran, otherwise there is no mention of any properties or description available

from 15 Mukhi onwards in any of the text. Yes I agree that a javanese 1 mukhi

has a clear 1 line on the bead and when it is cut laterally then only one seed

is seen. A two mukhi javanese bead similarly have two seeds inside. I feel

javanese one mukhi is more authentic than even Indian Kaju shaped 1 mukhi. And

have you noticed the shape of 1 mukhi Javanese bead it is just like a flattened

and tappered bead.I want to further submit that botanically 1 mukhi round bead

can never exist. Simple logic behind this is thatif we srr a 6 mukhi or five

mukhi they will be round beads to the perfection, if we see a 4

mukhi bead , we will find it a bit squarish shaped, if we see a three mukhi we

find it a bit triangular shaped, if we see a 2 mukhi bead we find it a bit more

flat, so in nut shell as the mukhs of the bead reduces the bead becomes more and

more tapered. Why ever we have not found a perfect shaped 2 mukhi round bead,

they will always be flattened beads whether they are from Nepal, or India or

Indonesia. Similarly a 1 mukhi can never be round it will definitely be a Kaju

shaped or a haly moon shaped bead. Similarly if we go to higher mukhis like 12

or 13 or 17 and above we will find them more oval , I mean they will have more

length and less breadth.Now I challange the site that let it cut the bead

laterally and if it does not have 4 seeds I will pay the whole amount to the

site otherwise this site will promise to not to misguide the devotees any more

and dupe people on the name being a reputed site. A reputed site

cannot stoop to such low levels for petty monetary gains. My suggestion is that

it should be immediately removed from the site.And Devotees pl just do not

close your eyes because one particular site has served you well once with the

good beads. We should be very very rational in our thinking. We should get the

best bead for the amount we are spending. Few devotees show their beads to me

and say that it is 20 years old bead and has been given by one Sadhu or

renowned Baba especially 1 mukhi Rudraksha and beleive me friends they are all

fake ones. Even old Babas I dont know from where they could manage the fake 1

muhkis or Rudrakshas with artificially carved Trishuls etc. The age of the

Rudraksha can not make it a genuine bead. Similarly now also the site is

basically befooling the devotees. So beware Freinds.Aum Namah ShivayeSiddharth

Mishrasacred-objects, Ole

Alstrup <alstrup wrote:>> Really?! This is very odd to read. So what

happened? I ordered 4 malas from Nepa Rudraksha and always received first class

beads and treatment. In 2003 I obtained a siddha mala with stunning collector

beads at much less price than Rudra Centre could offer. I did not even order

collector beads, as this was before the the term was coined on the internet. We

have also purchased from RC twice and their selection of beads is great, except

for one incident where my wife received a 10 mukhi collector bead and it was

quite smaller than advertised. RC's artisanship is very good, I dont know if

any other retailer offer better quality for this at comparable prices.> >

Having said this, I am happy that this sort of information can be exchanged,

but ubnfortunately I am also aware that negative stories can easily be

fabricated on forums in the name

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about Rudraksha you think is correct but I dont think so. I basically had an

interest to know more in the context of your claims, that was all... I would

like to state that it is an ESTABLISHED fact that the number of mukhis do not

necessarily correspond to the number of seeds inside a bead, so I wonder how

many beads you actually have examined? Who say so? It is not an established

fact that no. of beads do not necessarily correspond to the no. of seeds

inside. Here itself you are wrong my dear friend. Pl confirm from your reputed

site that what you are writing is correct or incorrect. Well, first of all

you did not answer my question of how many beads you yourself have examined

according to your own

set standards... Also pl confirm from your Botanist friend too that what you

are saying is right or wrong. If they think that you are right then let them

mail in the group and let other devotees also know about the same. Of course,

as you may know, Chandrashekharji is a frequent poster here and will no doubt

supply his input very soon... Pl Mr. Ole come out of your mind set . What you

are saying is absolutely incorrect. Let us not beat around the bush any more.

Tell me how many 8 mukhis if you cut say 100 will have 7 seeds inside ? pl

ponder on this. I do not know as I have certainly not performed such a test,

have you? Our botanist Chandrashekharji can supply much input in this field,

as he has shared that at the RSBC group earlier on and also at the open

rudraksha forum. I want to hear from Mr. Chandrashekar that how many 8 mukhi

will have 7 seeds inside or 9 seeds inside if he cuts 100 eight Mukhi beads.

Pl answer Mr. Shekhar. Well, I dont think that is any relevant test in the

context of our discussion, and not fair to Chandrahshekharji, I have supplied

you information which refute your theory and you refuse to acknowledge it, so

what can I do? I would refer anyone to look at David Zaremba's site at

www.rudraksha-center.com and click on inside rudraksha pictures. You will find

an examination of two 5 mukhis beads, which clearly prove this

point. This is not true. Yes, it is, you can see it if you will just look...

Yes some times it happens that two seeds are so close that they appear to be

one. That is not what this RANDOM test showed... But definitely it will

not happen for all the 5 Mukhi beads. And we cannot generalise that a 5 mukhi

will have 4 seeds or 6 seeds. No one claimed this, the result is still the

same, seeds inside do not necessarily correspond to number of outside mukhis..

This could

be due to their abnormal growth. This is more of a diseased bead. It happens in

the little ones of animals and human being as well that they are born with some

abnormality. So they are treated to remove this abnormality. Not that they

become super human. A 5 mukhi bead with 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc seeds inside is still

a 5 mukhi bead. Your comparison has absolutely no bearing on the result. Now you

are claiming that any bead with different number of seeds is diseased, but the

FACT remains that if you cut a bead, the number of seeds inside will not

NECESSARILY be the same as the outside mukhis. You may view it as diseased, I

do not. A rudraksha with NATURAL number of mukhis is certainly that bead,

because THIS IS HOW A BEAD IS EXAMINED IN THE FIRST PLACE, NOT THE SEEDS, WE

FIND NOTHING ABOUT THAT FROM RUDRAKSHA TRADITION; SO THAT IS YOUR THEORY

ONLY... So your theory that the number of seeds inside is the source of the

power in a bead is therefore proven wrong. My theory is unchallengable.

Because I know what I am writing is true to the core. I am not taking anybody's

names to prove my point. I challenge any knowledgable person of Rudraksha will

say the same thing what I have been saying. You ask any one. You may claim

as you like, but there is no value to your claim. Infact Lateral cutting is

the only test by which you can ascertain that the Rudraksha is actually how

many mukhis. Again I am sure your site person and Mr. Chandrashekhar will agree

with me. I want to read their comments and I am sure all group members would

like to read. Lateral cutting will show the number of seeds, not mukhis,

thats all. I cannot comment about the "Nirakar" bead, but I know that its

name is not derived from any scripture, I guess it means "no mukhi". Yes it is

good that you are not commenting for some thing you do not know. Pl go to BISHAL

BAZAR in Kathmandu and you will see no. of shops in ground and first floor

inside this complex, pl ask them whether they can give 'zero' mukhi bead and

you will get atleast 5 TO 10 from them which will either have no mukh or will

have one mukh and believe me that they are genuine ones. So what do you mean

by genuine ones? The cost would be Rs. 500 to Rs. 1000 NC(NEPALI CURRENCY).

Now here the difference is that on the site they are a bit refined one, more

good to look at. Thats all , but if cut laterally they will have 3 seeds or 4

seeds or 5 seeds. Believe me I am right because I have done it myself so I dont

need any credantials for any one. It seems you are confusing the two beads

shown at the Nepa rudraksha site. My logic and conviction is beyond doubt. Pl

be rest assured. I have done my homework thoroughly before writing in this

group. Some more pics of the two bead will shortly be uploaded at the Open

Rudraksha Forum, courtesy by the owner and moderator of that forum. I am

sure with all this discussion the site person will not try to befool devotees

any more. That particular bead is still subject

to investigation, contrary to your premature conclusions. I am informed that

the One Mukhi round shown at the site has its shape like three mukhi round

nepali with only one mukhi, the other mukhi is seen to be covered so it has to

be considered as one mukhi as well. It does not happen the way you think. The

energy source in any bead is the seed inside. So even if the mukhs are covered

naturally the bead continues to be equivalent to the number of seeds inside.

Its affect will be same as the no. of seeds inside. What you are stating here

is again not stated in ANY authentic rudraksha scripture and this is of course

NOT the proper way of identifying a bead, except for a botanical investigation,

so we can dismiss it. Botanically it is not possible to have 1 mukhi

round bead. I again reitreate that it has to be flat one and half moon shaped.

Well, of course, according to your own BOTANICAL logic, IF you ever encountered

a TRUE 1 mukhi round bead, you would either label it as a fake, diseased or a

freak of nature, but it would still be a TRUE 1 mukhi. It would be

interesting to know how many Nepali suppliers are there and what are their

names? I dont think this will matter in any way. I was merely interested in

your insights in this area. Also, what is the Katiyani Purana - an upa

purana? Where is it available? Write me

a personal mail. I will tell the source where you can get this. My aim is not to

take the shelter of any site or any person otherwise people will start linking

my name with them. I dont see what the big fuss is about this, but as you

wish. Thanks, Siddharthacharya Ole

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ATTN: RUDRA CENTER:

NAMASTE!!! IS IT A FACT THAT YOU HAVE A GENUINE ROUND EK MUKHI IN YOUR

COLLECTION?

Best rgds,

Richard

sacred-objects, spskathiravan ravan <bb_22_72 wrote:

>

> Greetings to Richard and to all

>

> Round ruthraksha does exists in this world. I personally

seen one round

muki ruthraksha from Sri Kamal Narayana Ji's collection (Founder of Ruthra

Centre). I have

a ruthra tree in my house and have seen that each ruthraksha has different

numbers of

seed irregardless of its muki. Example five face would have three seeds or two

face would

have no seeds. The seeds of a ruthraksha is unpredictable. I'm saying this from

my own

personal experience. I will share the photos of the seeds of the ruthraksha

soon in the

phots gallery.

>

> Thank you

>

> Ravan

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February 21, 2006

other discussions in establishing genuinness of the Rudrakshas and inviting me

to their exhibitions. If I am in that city I will surely attend your

exhibitions. I will very audaciously praise you if your beads are good and you

are serving devotees in good faith but if the beads are not good and some

commercial gain is expected out of it I will criticize as well sordidly. Pl do

not blame me later. I want to further submit that If one or two odd people does

not agree to me , it really makes no difference to me. I am sure in their heart

they have agreed to me and may be because of their ego they do not want to

disclose it. But its Ok with me. Or even if this is not true I am least

bothered. My aim of spreading correct perspective about rudrakshas is acheived.

I will keep on writing in this group when ever I will find that some person is

trying to dupe innocent devotees for his personal gains. Cheers! Om Namah

Shivaye, SiddharthOle Alstrup <alstrup > wrote: Siddharth Mishra, My

comments in blue below:Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > wrote: Ole Alstrup

<alstrup > wrote: Hello Siddarth Mishra, Hello Ole Alstrup. Hello

again It would be interesting if you could share more info about your

rudraksha business and your teaching.of therapy in Hyderabad. I dont think that

this is relevant in the present context. I am not asking about your

background, and your knowledge about Rudraksha you think is correct but I dont

think so. I basically had an interest to know more in the context of your

claims, that was all... I would like to state that it is an ESTABLISHED fact

that the number of mukhis do not necessarily correspond to the number of seeds

inside a bead, so I wonder how many beads you actually have examined? Who say

so? It is not an established fact that no. of beads do not necessarily

correspond to the no. of seeds inside. Here itself you are wrong my dear

friend. Pl confirm from your reputed site that what you are writing is correct

or

incorrect. Well, first of all you did not answer my question of how many

beads you yourself have examined according to your own set standards... Also

pl confirm from your Botanist friend too that what you are saying is right or

wrong. If they think that you are right then let them mail in the group and let

other devotees also know about the same. Of course, as you may know,

Chandrashekharji is a frequent poster here and will no doubt supply his input

very soon... Pl Mr. Ole come out of your mind set . What you are saying is

absolutely incorrect. Let us not beat around the bush any more. Tell me how

many 8 mukhis if you cut say 100 will have 7 seeds inside ?

pl ponder on this. I do not know as I have certainly not performed such a

test, have you? Our botanist Chandrashekharji can supply much input in this

field, as he has shared that at the RSBC group earlier on and also at the open

rudraksha forum. I want to hear from Mr. Chandrashekar that how many 8 mukhi

will have 7 seeds inside or 9 seeds inside if he cuts 100 eight Mukhi beads.

Pl answer Mr. Shekhar. Well, I dont think that is any relevant test in the

context of our discussion, and not fair to Chandrahshekharji, I have supplied

you information which refute your theory and you refuse to acknowledge it, so

what can I do? I would refer anyone to look at David Zaremba's

site at www.rudraksha-center.com and click on inside rudraksha pictures. You

will find an examination of two 5 mukhis beads, which clearly prove this point.

This is not true. Yes, it is, you can see it if you will just look... Yes

some times it happens that two seeds are so close that they appear to be one.

That is not what this RANDOM test showed... But definitely it will not happen

for all the 5 Mukhi beads. And we cannot generalise that a 5 mukhi will have 4

seeds or 6 seeds. No one claimed

this, the result is still the same, seeds inside do not necessarily correspond

to number of outside mukhis.. This could be due to their abnormal growth.

This is more of a diseased bead. It happens in the little ones of animals and

human being as well that they are born with some abnormality. So they are

treated to remove this abnormality. Not that they become super human. A 5

mukhi bead with 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc seeds inside is still a 5 mukhi bead. Your

comparison has absolutely no bearing on the result. Now you are claiming that

any bead with different number of seeds is diseased, but the FACT remains that

if you cut a bead, the number of seeds inside will not NECESSARILY be the same

as the outside mukhis. You may view it as diseased, I do not. A rudraksha with

NATURAL number of mukhis is certainly that bead, because THIS

IS HOW A BEAD IS EXAMINED IN THE FIRST PLACE, NOT THE SEEDS, WE FIND NOTHING

ABOUT THAT FROM RUDRAKSHA TRADITION; SO THAT IS YOUR THEORY ONLY... So your

theory that the number of seeds inside is the source of the power in a bead is

therefore proven wrong. My theory is unchallengable. Because I know what I am

writing is true to the core. I am not taking anybody's names to prove my point.

I challenge any knowledgable person of Rudraksha will say the same thing what I

have been saying. You ask any one. You may claim as you like, but there is

no value to your claim. Infact Lateral cutting is the only test by which you

can ascertain that the Rudraksha is actually how many mukhis. Again I am sure

your site person and Mr.

Chandrashekhar will agree with me. I want to read their comments and I am sure

all group members would like to read. Lateral cutting will show the number of

seeds, not mukhis, thats all. I cannot comment about the "Nirakar" bead, but

I know that its name is not derived from any scripture, I guess it means "no

mukhi". Yes it is good that you are not commenting for some thing you do not

know. Pl go to BISHAL BAZAR in Kathmandu and you will see no. of shops in

ground and first floor inside this complex, pl ask them whether they can give

'zero' mukhi bead and you will get atleast 5 TO 10 from them which will either

have no mukh or will have one mukh and believe me that they are genuine ones.

So what do you

mean by genuine ones? The cost would be Rs. 500 to Rs. 1000 NC(NEPALI

CURRENCY). Now here the difference is that on the site they are a bit refined

one, more good to look at. Thats all , but if cut laterally they will have 3

seeds or 4 seeds or 5 seeds. Believe me I am right because I have done it

myself so I dont need any credantials for any one. It seems you are confusing

the two beads shown at the Nepa rudraksha site. My logic and conviction is

beyond doubt. Pl be rest assured. I have done my homework thoroughly before

writing in this group. Some more pics of the two bead will shortly be

uploaded at the Open Rudraksha Forum, courtesy by the owner and moderator

of that forum. I am sure with all this

discussion the site person will not try to befool devotees any more. That

particular bead is still subject to investigation, contrary to your premature

conclusions. I am informed that the One Mukhi round shown at the site has its

shape like three mukhi round nepali with only one mukhi, the other mukhi is seen

to be covered so it has to be considered as one mukhi as well. It does not

happen the way you think. The energy source in any bead is the seed inside. So

even if the mukhs are covered naturally the bead continues to be equivalent to

the number of seeds inside. Its affect will be same as the no. of seeds inside.

What you are stating here is again not stated in ANY authentic rudraksha

scripture and this is of course NOT the proper way of identifying a bead,

except for a

botanical investigation, so we can dismiss it. Botanically it is not possible

to have 1 mukhi round bead. I again reitreate that it has to be flat one and

half moon shaped. Well, of course, according to your own BOTANICAL logic, IF

you ever encountered a TRUE 1 mukhi round bead, you would either label it as a

fake, diseased or a freak of nature, but it would still be a TRUE 1 mukhi. It

would be interesting to know how many Nepali suppliers are there and what are

their names? I dont think this will matter in any way. I was merely interested

in your

insights in this area. Also, what is the Katiyani Purana - an upa purana?

Where is it available? Write me a personal mail. I will tell the source where

you can get this. My aim is not to take the shelter of any site or any person

otherwise people will start linking my name with them. I dont see what the

big fuss is about this, but as you wish. Thanks, Siddharthacharya Ole

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would have three seeds or two face would have no seeds. The seeds of a

ruthraksha is unpredictable. I'm saying this from my own personal experience.

Wow it is really great. Congrats you have 8 th wonder of the world with you.

I will share the photos of the seeds of the ruthraksha soon in the phots

gallery. Pl do that earliest , I cannot wait anymore. Thank you Siddharth

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<sidhmis > wrote: Dear Members of this esteemed group, I am

extremely thankful to you all for good words you have written about my mail. I

have received 237 messages from different devotees and I am extremely thankful

to you bhaktjans. Almost every one has requested that they need my guidance.

Friends I will surely try to help you. I am very happy that you all have

agreed to quite a bit what I have mentioned and I want to specially thank Mr.

Richard Brown for having complimented me with the 'best mail he has read till

date about Rudraksha. So my purpose of joining this club and sharing my

knowledge about Rudraksha to you all Maha Purushs is solved and I am really

very happy about it. I want to especially thank few very renowned personalities

who wrote to me on my private mail ID

(whose references are given time and again to prove some points) for having

written to me and AGREEING TO ME in counting correct way of Mukhs and other

discussions in establishing genuinness of the Rudrakshas and inviting me to

their exhibitions. If I am in that city I will surely attend your exhibitions.

I will very audaciously praise you if your beads are good and you are serving

devotees in good faith but if the beads are not good and some commercial gain

is expected out of it I will criticize as well sordidly. Pl do not blame me

later. I want to further submit that If one or two odd people does not agree to

me , it really makes no difference to me. I am sure in their heart they have

agreed to me and may be because of their ego they do not want to disclose it.

But its Ok with me. Or even if this is not true I am least bothered. My aim of

spreading correct perspective about rudrakshas is acheived. I will keep on

writing in

this group when ever I will find that some person is trying to dupe innocent

devotees for his personal gains. Cheers! Om Namah Shivaye, SiddharthOle

Alstrup <alstrup > wrote: Siddharth Mishra, My comments in blue

below:Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > wrote: Ole Alstrup

<alstrup > wrote: Hello Siddarth Mishra, Hello Ole

Alstrup. Hello again It would be interesting if you could share more info about

your rudraksha business and your teaching.of therapy in Hyderabad. I dont think

that this is relevant in the present context. I am not asking about your