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> It is obvious that we have gone outside the realms of food for " food"

> and are

> discussing all aspects of esoteric Sattvic life style and inner peace.

>

> I need to make all of us aware of 2 things.

>

> 1) if you have visited East African Safari, you'll notice that all the

> vegetarian animals are frolicking together and they all trust each

> other. The

> Giraffes, the deer, the Zebras, the Buffaloes, .........., whereas the

> carnivores live singly and do not trust each other. Even those that

> live in

> packs, do not trust the other packs, who are out to destroy each other.

> One thing that needs to be understood, is that perhaps, vegetarianism

> breeds

> getting along and " living together".

 

Dear Durgesh

 

i find your comments to be over-generalized

no-one can deny that wolves are carnivores and also display intense

social bonds

in Africa, there are also several primates that are omnivores, and are

similarly sociable, as well as hyenas and the African dog, to but name

a few

 

further, in human development, it was perhaps big-game hunting that was

the first true example of a collective working together t6o achieve a

common aim

 

on the other hand, it is only among the herbivores, e.g. mountain

goats/sheep, walruses, that undergo intense battles for social

supremacy, i.e. the seasonal rut prior to mating - you don't see this

among carnivores, where the hierarchy is firmly established; in fact,

you could say that the elders are respected, venerated and cared for

among carnivores, whereas in herbivores, the elders are usurped from

their position of status, and are left to fend for themselves

 

perhaps vegetarianism causing fighting, revolution and disrespect for

the elderly? (tongue in cheek - no reply needed ;-)

 

>

> 2) A point was made that an average Indian is miserable. I do not

> think we can

> equate it with food. Misery may be from lack of jobs, lack of water

> supply, lack

> of electricity, from pollution, from lack of money to do things, from

> the "

> overly conservative social attitudes" that do not let average boys and

> girls

> mingle together, etc.....and may have nothing to do with food consumed,

> vegetarian or otherwise.

 

this wasn't a point i was making other then to point out the fallacy in

thinking

of course its ridiculous to assume the lot of the average Indian is due

to diet!

Caldecott

phyto

http://www.wrc.net/phyto

 

 

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Hyenas - wolves - and other pack animals spend a great deal of their

time fighting and viciously contending with each other. Herds are

much more peaceful in their nature.

 

Still these issues have nothing to do with whether it is good or

better for man to eat flesh or vehetables and milk.

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