when is Amma's birthday this year?

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Namah Shivaya.

 

When is Amma¹s birthday this year?

 

In Her love,

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It should be Sep 9 according to the calendar - vedic calendar that is.

 

Ammachi, Kenna <itskenna@c...> wrote:

> Namah Shivaya.

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> When is Amma¹s birthday this year?

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> In Her love,

> premarupa

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> When is Amma¹s birthday this year?

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Septwmber 27. Same as every year DOHHHHH!

 

As far as I know, this year Amma's 52nd birthday

doesn't fall during Navratri or the Jewish High Holy

Days.

 

Keval

 

 

 

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Actually, the "new" thing is that Amma was not born in 1953 or on Sept. 27.

They were saying in India when i was there that Amma was actually born

sometime in 1952, but her parents never kept track of when. Sigh. It's so

hard not to have certainty...

 

In Amma,

Jyotsna

 

Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:

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> When is Amma¹s birthday this year?

>

>

 

Septwmber 27. Same as every year DOHHHHH!

 

As far as I know, this year Amma's 52nd birthday

doesn't fall during Navratri or the Jewish High Holy

Days.

 

Keval

 

 

 

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The Birthday of the Divine Mother of the Universe?

 

This reminds me of an incident with Paramahansa Yogananda. The

devotees had a birthday party for Him.

 

They asked him how old he was. He answered: One.

 

With Love,

 

GeorgeSon

 

Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote:

> Actually, the "new" thing is that Amma was not born in 1953 or on

Sept. 27.

> They were saying in India when i was there that Amma was actually

born

> sometime in 1952, but her parents never kept track of when. Sigh.

It's so

> hard not to have certainty...

>

> In Amma,

> Jyotsna

>

> Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote:

> >

> > When is Amma¹s birthday this year?

> >

> >

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> Septwmber 27. Same as every year DOHHHHH!

>

> As far as I know, this year Amma's 52nd birthday

> doesn't fall during Navratri or the Jewish High Holy

> Days.

>

> Keval

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> Ammachi

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Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote:

> Actually, the "new" thing is that Amma was not born in 1953 or on

Sept. 27.

> They were saying in India when i was there that Amma was actually

born

> sometime in 1952, but her parents never kept track of when.

 

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

 

We trust and pray that Amma is blessing and protecting all of you

always!

 

in reference to Jyotsna's comments, i am struck by the thought that

this idea of not knowing when one is born is NOT a Hindu practice.

 

Hindus as far as i know, generally think that the date and time of

birth is EXTREMELY important...and almost always people will have

that

kind of information...When Hindu parents want to marry off their

daughters and sons, they almost ALWAYS will go to an astrologer to

arrange WHAT the birth chart says...such as which Nakshatra the moon

is

in...and what tithi (part of the nakshatra)...and they will want to

know whether moon was waxing or waning, and what the phase actually

was...such as "panchami" or "shashti" or so...Also, most Hindu

parents tend to be concerned extremely with whether their child is

suffering from a "Kuja Dosha" (or Mars affliction)....because a Kuja

Dosha can result in very bad marriages...unless proper mitigation of

the curse is done...or the person waits until at least the age of 28

years.

 

In fact one reads in the Amma biography that her parents DID consult

an astrologer, who firmly told them that Amma is a Mahatma and that

they

should forget about marrying HER off...and that if She was ALREADY

married, that they should get the marriage annulled....cause it would

be dangerous to the husband. (She had already threatened one

prospective groom with his life...waving a big chilly chopping knife

and yelling She would kill him if they married Her to him...)

 

Now HOW could the astrologer tell them all these things if they did

NOT know When Amma was born???? did they just make up some arbitrary

date and time for the astrologer?? or did the astrologer figure it

out FOR them? (from details in Amma's life)....

 

i would be extremely surprised if Amma's parents did not know what

year

or date that Amma was born....it is SO important to know one's

Nakshatra if one is a traditional Hindu...

 

They might not remember the exact TIME that Amma was born...but an

astrologer could figure THAT out to the minute, given again, some

important events in Amma's life...and the status of Her family...(not

social status...but how they were doing at certain times)...

 

So i would tend to suggest that indeed the year and date of Amma's

Birth would have been remembered quite well by Her Parents...Which

parent among us would not remember WHEN his or Her child was born???

we might forget the actual TIME of birth, but we would NOT forget the

day, month and YEAR of birth unless we were seriously ill with no

memory left...or suffering from one of the forms of dementia...then

we

might not remember such things, but otherwise...

 

Keval has stated that Her birthday is on Sept 27 this year as it is

always...but he forgets that Hindus tell their birthdays by the

NAKSHATRA in which the Moon was found at the time of Birth...the so

called Lunar Calendar.

 

so we must look for the days when Moon is passing through Krittika (a

nakshatra in Taurus, and Amma's "birthstar", also known as the

Pleiades) in the month of September/October....this year of 2005

 

This year according to my Jyotish program (in which i use Lahiri

Ayanamsha)...Jagannatha Hora, Moon is in the Nakshatra Krittika (or

Karthika, if you're more used to that), on Sept 22,

so i would venture to say that Amma's "Hindu" birthday, or Her

Birthstar birthday is on Sept 22 this year...they may celebrate it on

another day but as far as i can tell, that is the right day.

 

i just looked at my Amma calendar, and indeed they show Sept 22 as

the day that Moon passes through Krittika...(Her Birthstar)...which

makes Sept 22 the lunar birthday.

 

the thing is that even IF Amma's parents don't really remember those

details, it may be possible for some extremely skilled astrologer to

reconstruct the time and date of birth from Amma's character, from

Her

actions in this world, and from events which have occurred TO

her...such as the death of Her brother...the time when She got thrown

out of the house...time of Her Krsna and Devi sadhanas...those kinds

of

things.

 

Prasannan for example appears to be very skilled (and with the help of

his Jyotish program) in discovering the precise times of birth of his

clients....in fact i believe he USUALLY checks the client

information against his program and will alter the given time of

birth by whatever it takes to make the charts work...usually only a

few minutes on one side or the other of the given time...

 

in my case he told me after asking a few questions that he believed

that the time of my birth was actually three minutes LATER than i had

given him...because that timing made the

Mahadasha/bhuktis/antaradashas (life periods) line up more

precisely with the known transits of planets at that time...and his

timing WAS right...it WORKS exactly right on as i have tested over

and over by comparing life events to the vimshottari dashas given for

those periods...often an event will happen on the DAY that the life

period would change from one planetary ruler to the next..usually in

the smaller divisions of the periods of course...but it is amazing to

see how one's life is so neatly ordered according to the stars...

 

One hears a LOT of rumours in spirtual groups, and it is probably

best to take most of them with a very big grain of salt...

Why would the swamis have given Amma's birthday and time and year, if

they did not KNOW it?? that would have been contrary to their vows of

truthfulness.

i cannot believe that Swami Nealu (Paramatmanandaji) and Swami Balu..

(Amritaswarupanandaji) would knowingly perpertrate such a falsehood..

 

i think that if they had stated that Amma was born on September 27

1953, that indeed She was born then....on the astrology lists, they

even discuss the TIME of Amma's birth...which was given as 9:09 AM,

and

which appears to show the strange event of Her birth being recorded

in

what adds up to the number NINE...

 

(time) (date) (year)

9:09 Septmber 27, 1953 adds up to (9+9+9)+(2+7)+(1+9+5+3)=45=4+5=9

(when added up in the numerological sense).

 

 

in an astrological chart, the Ninth house is the House of Guru, (as

well as Father, distant travel, and a few other things...)

 

i personally have been given that birthtime, 9:09 AM by Dayalu, who

is a Jyotishi, and has been with Amma for a long time...he wrote (in

the year 2000):

"Amma is a Libra ascendant 23 degrees 18. She was born Sept.

27th 1953 at 9:09A.M. Kayankulam, India. She's getting more popular

now during Jupiter Venus and in 2006 when She goes into Saturn Saturn

she'll probably be World famous."

 

according to my Jyotish program, Amma would have been born on a

Sunday, known as "Krishna Panchami", or the Fifth day of the Waning

moon, in the month of "Bhadrapada", Year, "Vijaya" with the Sun/Moon

yoga called Vajra, ruled by Moon.

 

Her ascendant of 23 Libra 18 would place the Lagna (ascendant) in the

Nakshatra (mansion of the Moon) known as Vishakham, a nakshatra in

which if there are planets to be found, may indicate a devout

follower of Lord Krsna, (or Jesus Christ...as i have discovered in

analysing western charts...it appears to work very well for

either "Deity"...so isn't that strange that Paramahansa Yogananda

used to say that Krsna and Christ were basically the same? you can

even see it from the charts of the devotees!!!)...and as we know,

Amma was a Great Krsna devotee in Her youth...

 

anyways...just a few little tidbits to pique the mind...

 

In Amma's Divine Love,

and in Her Service,

as ever,

 

visvanathan

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

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Aum Amriteshwariye Namah!!

 

it seems Amm seems to be answering all my doubts and questions through Amma's

!

 

Thank you for youe post Vishwanathan.I had my charts done by Prasannan a few

years ago ago in Amritapuri. Recently i had gone and seen another astrologer who

informed me that my time of birth was off by 3 minutes.I have always had doubt

about my time of birth and was wondering if Prasannan had been able to spot it.

Well now i know if that was the case Prasannan would have corrected it. Only

problem is, i can't read anything stated in the booklet as its all in Malayalam!

 

Aum Amriteshwariye Namah!

 

kasi_visvanath <kasi_visvanath wrote:

Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote:

> Actually, the "new" thing is that Amma was not born in 1953 or on

Sept. 27.

> They were saying in India when i was there that Amma was actually

born

> sometime in 1952, but her parents never kept track of when.

 

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

 

We trust and pray that Amma is blessing and protecting all of you

always!

 

in reference to Jyotsna's comments, i am struck by the thought that

this idea of not knowing when one is born is NOT a Hindu practice.

 

Hindus as far as i know, generally think that the date and time of

birth is EXTREMELY important...and almost always people will have

that

kind of information...When Hindu parents want to marry off their

daughters and sons, they almost ALWAYS will go to an astrologer to

arrange WHAT the birth chart says...such as which Nakshatra the moon

is

in...and what tithi (part of the nakshatra)...and they will want to

know whether moon was waxing or waning, and what the phase actually

was...such as "panchami" or "shashti" or so...Also, most Hindu

parents tend to be concerned extremely with whether their child is

suffering from a "Kuja Dosha" (or Mars affliction)....because a Kuja

Dosha can result in very bad marriages...unless proper mitigation of

the curse is done...or the person waits until at least the age of 28

years.

 

In fact one reads in the Amma biography that her parents DID consult

an astrologer, who firmly told them that Amma is a Mahatma and that

they

should forget about marrying HER off...and that if She was ALREADY

married, that they should get the marriage annulled....cause it would

be dangerous to the husband. (She had already threatened one

prospective groom with his life...waving a big chilly chopping knife

and yelling She would kill him if they married Her to him...)

 

Now HOW could the astrologer tell them all these things if they did

NOT know When Amma was born???? did they just make up some arbitrary

date and time for the astrologer?? or did the astrologer figure it

out FOR them? (from details in Amma's life)....

 

i would be extremely surprised if Amma's parents did not know what

year

or date that Amma was born....it is SO important to know one's

Nakshatra if one is a traditional Hindu...

 

They might not remember the exact TIME that Amma was born...but an

astrologer could figure THAT out to the minute, given again, some

important events in Amma's life...and the status of Her family...(not

social status...but how they were doing at certain times)...

 

So i would tend to suggest that indeed the year and date of Amma's

Birth would have been remembered quite well by Her Parents...Which

parent among us would not remember WHEN his or Her child was born???

we might forget the actual TIME of birth, but we would NOT forget the

day, month and YEAR of birth unless we were seriously ill with no

memory left...or suffering from one of the forms of dementia...then

we

might not remember such things, but otherwise...

 

Keval has stated that Her birthday is on Sept 27 this year as it is

always...but he forgets that Hindus tell their birthdays by the

NAKSHATRA in which the Moon was found at the time of Birth...the so

called Lunar Calendar.

 

so we must look for the days when Moon is passing through Krittika (a

nakshatra in Taurus, and Amma's "birthstar", also known as the

Pleiades) in the month of September/October....this year of 2005

 

This year according to my Jyotish program (in which i use Lahiri

Ayanamsha)...Jagannatha Hora, Moon is in the Nakshatra Krittika (or

Karthika, if you're more used to that), on Sept 22,

so i would venture to say that Amma's "Hindu" birthday, or Her

Birthstar birthday is on Sept 22 this year...they may celebrate it on

another day but as far as i can tell, that is the right day.

 

i just looked at my Amma calendar, and indeed they show Sept 22 as

the day that Moon passes through Krittika...(Her Birthstar)...which

makes Sept 22 the lunar birthday.

 

the thing is that even IF Amma's parents don't really remember those

details, it may be possible for some extremely skilled astrologer to

reconstruct the time and date of birth from Amma's character, from

Her

actions in this world, and from events which have occurred TO

her...such as the death of Her brother...the time when She got thrown

out of the house...time of Her Krsna and Devi sadhanas...those kinds

of

things.

 

Prasannan for example appears to be very skilled (and with the help of

his Jyotish program) in discovering the precise times of birth of his

clients....in fact i believe he USUALLY checks the client

information against his program and will alter the given time of

birth by whatever it takes to make the charts work...usually only a

few minutes on one side or the other of the given time...

 

in my case he told me after asking a few questions that he believed

that the time of my birth was actually three minutes LATER than i had

given him...because that timing made the

Mahadasha/bhuktis/antaradashas (life periods) line up more

precisely with the known transits of planets at that time...and his

timing WAS right...it WORKS exactly right on as i have tested over

and over by comparing life events to the vimshottari dashas given for

those periods...often an event will happen on the DAY that the life

period would change from one planetary ruler to the next..usually in

the smaller divisions of the periods of course...but it is amazing to

see how one's life is so neatly ordered according to the stars...

 

One hears a LOT of rumours in spirtual groups, and it is probably

best to take most of them with a very big grain of salt...

Why would the swamis have given Amma's birthday and time and year, if

they did not KNOW it?? that would have been contrary to their vows of

truthfulness.

i cannot believe that Swami Nealu (Paramatmanandaji) and Swami Balu..

(Amritaswarupanandaji) would knowingly perpertrate such a falsehood..

 

i think that if they had stated that Amma was born on September 27

1953, that indeed She was born then....on the astrology lists, they

even discuss the TIME of Amma's birth...which was given as 9:09 AM,

and

which appears to show the strange event of Her birth being recorded

in

what adds up to the number NINE...

 

(time) (date) (year)

9:09 Septmber 27, 1953 adds up to (9+9+9)+(2+7)+(1+9+5+3)=45=4+5=9

(when added up in the numerological sense).

 

 

in an astrological chart, the Ninth house is the House of Guru, (as

well as Father, distant travel, and a few other things...)

 

i personally have been given that birthtime, 9:09 AM by Dayalu, who

is a Jyotishi, and has been with Amma for a long time...he wrote (in

the year 2000):

"Amma is a Libra ascendant 23 degrees 18. She was born Sept.

27th 1953 at 9:09A.M. Kayankulam, India. She's getting more popular

now during Jupiter Venus and in 2006 when She goes into Saturn Saturn

she'll probably be World famous."

 

according to my Jyotish program, Amma would have been born on a

Sunday, known as "Krishna Panchami", or the Fifth day of the Waning

moon, in the month of "Bhadrapada", Year, "Vijaya" with the Sun/Moon

yoga called Vajra, ruled by Moon.

 

Her ascendant of 23 Libra 18 would place the Lagna (ascendant) in the

Nakshatra (mansion of the Moon) known as Vishakham, a nakshatra in

which if there are planets to be found, may indicate a devout

follower of Lord Krsna, (or Jesus Christ...as i have discovered in

analysing western charts...it appears to work very well for

either "Deity"...so isn't that strange that Paramahansa Yogananda

used to say that Krsna and Christ were basically the same? you can

even see it from the charts of the devotees!!!)...and as we know,

Amma was a Great Krsna devotee in Her youth...

 

anyways...just a few little tidbits to pique the mind...

 

In Amma's Divine Love,

and in Her Service,

as ever,

 

visvanathan

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

 

Ammachi