Guest guest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 In a message dated 8/6/04 12:43:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Aside from the pesticide problem, Coke factories in Kerala use well > water to make the beverage, and have been accused of contaminating the > well water. > What would be safe to drink for a Westerner in Kerala? Avram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Le - <Ammachi> <Ammachi> Friday, August 06, 2004 12:37 AM Digest Number 1263 > > There are 23 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: being cooked > "gudechristiane" <gudechristiane > 2. Re: Problems in LIFE > "gudechristiane" <gudechristiane > 3. Re: Just a Thought on saying Brother's and Sister's in the Room > "gudechristiane" <gudechristiane > 4. Re: No peace > Tom Childers <tom > 5. Thank you > Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel > 6. Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > Mike Brooker <patria1818 > 7. Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > <jpm333_bc > 8. Re: healing the eyes. > "Connie Habash" <Connie > 9. Boston Brother Bows to You > "satyadev" <satyadev108 > 10. Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > "manoj_menon" <ammasmon > 11. Re: healing the eyes. > kalipadma > 12. Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > kalipadma > 13. Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > "Aikya Param" <aikya > 14. Re: Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2 > 15. Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > avinash ramidi <avinash7_99 > 16. Re: Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > Linda Puckett <lkpuckett143 > 17. Thank you all for comments on Coca Cola > WayOfEagle2 > 18. Job interview > "Erica" <sugarandbrine > 19. Prayers needed for me too > balakrishnan Shankar <balakrishnan_sh > 20. Boredom. > "manoj_menon" <ammasmon > 21. Re: Prayers needed for me too > "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou > 22. Re: Boston Brother Bows to You > "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou > 23. Re: Boredom. > Tom Childers <tom > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Thu, 05 Aug 2004 10:34:36 -0000 > "gudechristiane" <gudechristiane > Re: being cooked > > namah shivaya erica. > > the feeling of guilt is just another trap of the mind/ego. it's an emotion which arises only > out of your past. you should watch it. don't judge, just watch and see when it comes up. > see the cause and observe the effect. this brings you into the present and while you learn > to differentiate you'll stop nourishing that feeling and eventually it'll disappear. . . oh well, > simple is not the same as easy. but hey! we have to keep trying. > > in amma > > christiane > > > Ammachi, "Erica" <sugarandbrine> wrote: > > Namah Shivayah Christiane: > > > > Being COOKED! I couldn't have put it in a better way. Maybe I am > > showing my age here, but when I was younger I used to love watching > > The Smurfs. I remember how the Smurfs would avoid trying to get into > > the evil villain's pot of boiling water. I feel, more often than not, > > that I am in the pot already! Instead of clammoring to get out, > > perhaps I should try to think of it as a jacuzzi tub. I wanna go > > back to the looove stage!! > > > > Spontaneous moments of consciousness -- so true. But what to do about > > the guilt? > > > > Robin: > > > > I am so glad to hear that you're doing well. I never had any > > doubt. You are so devoted to Mother. It is a model for me! > > > > With love, > > Niseema > > > > Ammachi, "gudechristiane" > > <gudechristiane> wrote: > > > namah shivaya robin, > > > > > > glad to hear you're doing well. you'll be fine! as far as reading > > suggestions go for you > > > roman catholic friend: i would recommend judith cornell's biography > > on amma. it's written > > > from a 'western perspective' which might make it easier for her to > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Thu, 05 Aug 2004 10:53:46 -0000 > "gudechristiane" <gudechristiane > Re: Problems in LIFE > > yes, anger ... guilt ... jealousy ... all a waste of time yet very much part of every day life. all > ego traps which keep us bonded in samsara. i don't even think the anger you feel NOW > would feel the same TOMORROW. but what if you die between today and tomorrow? > nobody should die angry. it's everybody's responsibility to put forth the necessary effort of > being content with what is given to us. FAITH really is the key. and keep praying. amma > wants us to give it all to her. do the names and with every name give her a sorrow until > you can give her a flower with each name again. amma is here to take from us. so we > should learn how to give. > > jai ma > > christiane > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:05:36 -0000 > "gudechristiane" <gudechristiane > Re: Just a Thought on saying Brother's and Sister's in the Room > > amma considers EVERYBODY as her child. so yes --- we are ALL brothers and sisters. > > the good the bad and the ugly --- are all our siblings. whether we like it or not ;-) > > in amma > > christiane > > > > Ammachi, WayOfEagle2@c... wrote: > > It's very nice to say when making a post there to start out by > > saying Brother's and Sister's there but aren't ALL of humanity our > > brother's and sister's there even though they may NOT know of Amma? > > To me it seems very narrow minded when it just applies to those that > > know of Amma and just mention it to those who just know of Amma. I > > think that AMMA would like to all of us to know that EVERYBODY is our > > brother and sister no matter how difficult it may seems. I have been > > restling with this for many many years and come to realize that even > > the lowest of the low or the worst of humanity is our brother and > > sister. And it is up to us as to how we react to it. There will > > always be those who are in need and always those that will need our > > help regardless of whether one knows of Amma or not. NAMASTE > > > > > > Alexander > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Wed, 04 Aug 2004 23:50:21 -0400 > Tom Childers <tom > Re: No peace > > Robin, > > I hear that you are suffering, deeply frustrated and feel trapped. I > have no words of wisdom for your situation. Amma's words and books > contain all the wisdom I will ever need and there's nothing I can add. > All I can offer is the following prayer "Dearest Amma, if in harmony > with Your Divine will, please now let Robin fully experience Your > everpresent love and grace." > > The many arms of our sangha hold you. > > Jai Amma, > > Tom > > > Robin Wilson wrote: > > >Namaste, > > > > I have no peace in my heart today. I feel like I have let Mother down. I have AGAIN failed miserably. I feel like I have let you all down. I am SO angry at Mother right now. I don't like it. Not hatred or anything but just anger. I am having HUGE problems at work, I almost walked out today but this is IMPOSSIBLE for me to do. I can't afford NOT TO WORK. But I can't go on like this. My friend called me on the way home and told me things I am not suppose to know like, my immediate manager (whom I get along with) went and told our "higher up manager" that we were NOT going to have a meeting tomorrow because it didn't involve everyone in the department. She told my friend that she told our manger (this is after I left) that if I walk out tomorrow then she is walking out too. I can't have this on my conscious. Granted I can't quit but I get pretty upset at THIS situation and emotions get wound up and I blurt out I quit and thats it. If I really do quit I can't have people quiti! > > ng > > because of me!!! Thats crazy I won't have it, but at the same time I can't have my actions held against me in the heat of the moment. In any case I can't quit and I am so angry at Amma, SCREAMING in my heart, do you see how your children are treating me?!?! Do you not care?!?! Must I suffer through this?!?!?!?! I throw my hands up I feel defeated and at complete loss. Someone PLEASE help me. I feel that I can't even pray I'm just so angry. If I quit with no job lined up I can't pay rent. I feel lost. Stuck. I feel like this is getting shoved down my throat and I am made to swallow it whether I like it or not. Help. > > > >At Amma's Feet > > Robin > > > > > > > > > >Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 05:43:21 -0700 (PDT) > Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel > Thank you > > Namaste, > > > Once again my brothers and sisters all run to my rescue in a moments notice. (grin) How comforting you all are with you words of wisdom. I am taking all of your advice, last night I wrote Mother a very nasty letter and sent it to her. I could never rip up a precious picture. But I did cry and pour my heart out in anger to her. I am still angry this morning, unfortunately, but I am trying to bring myself "above" the situation as you say. I ask Amma when should we lay back and let it happen to us and when do we get up and fight for ourselves? Must I and others suffer from this? I am going to try and go into work and just work, but my nerves are on eggshells and I am afraid to set foot in the door. Thank you all for such quick and very much needed advice. It helps. I feel Mother with me I just hope I don't let her down again. Its past time for me to go into work so I should go. > > At Amma's Lotus Feet, > Robin > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 06:01:02 -0700 (PDT) > Mike Brooker <patria1818 > Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > > > A question was asked to Amma about Coca Cola and > > if I am not > > mistaken in my recollection as to why it should be > > sold there and/or > > have anything to do with it. > > The answer basically that was given was that we > > have choices and > > that She has nothing to do with Coca Cola. > > Like a knife itself which can be used by a > > surgeon to save a life > > or by one to kill someone so it is with Coca Cola. > > > > As I recall from previous RI retreats, there were Coke > machines all over the Bryant campus. So why not sell > Thums Up - the national soda of India - at Amma's > programs? It's horrible stuff! Tastes like a cross > between Sprite and Mountain Dew. There is also an > Indian soda called Limca Cola, which I think was sold > as a poor substitute for Coke and Pepsi during the > years after Independence until the 1980s, when > virtually all foreign products were banned in India. > > I was really craving Diet Coke while in India. Maybe > they have it there now, but they sure didn't back in > '95. I had no trouble getting Coke Classic, Pepsi, > and of course Thumbs Up, but there wasn't a Diet Coke > to be found anywhere in Bharat Mata! > > I've never heard of anyone being killed by Coca Cola, > though a broken Coke bottle (if they still come in > glass) can be a deadly weapon! > > Keval > (with a fridge full of Diet Coke!) > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:00:47 -0700 (PDT) > <jpm333_bc > Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > > Just a note about Coke in India ... at the time of Amma's 50th. BD celebration, Amma recommended that we not purchase even major brand soft drinks in India, due to the high level of harmful chemicals (pesticides?) they contained. This may still be the case. > > Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:> A question was asked to Amma about Coca Cola and > > if I am not > > mistaken in my recollection as to why it should be > > sold there and/or > > have anything to do with it. > > The answer basically that was given was that we > > have choices and > > that She has nothing to do with Coca Cola. > > Like a knife itself which can be used by a > > surgeon to save a life > > or by one to kill someone so it is with Coca Cola. > > > > As I recall from previous RI retreats, there were Coke > machines all over the Bryant campus. So why not sell > Thums Up - the national soda of India - at Amma's > programs? It's horrible stuff! Tastes like a cross > between Sprite and Mountain Dew. There is also an > Indian soda called Limca Cola, which I think was sold > as a poor substitute for Coke and Pepsi during the > years after Independence until the 1980s, when > virtually all foreign products were banned in India. > > I was really craving Diet Coke while in India. Maybe > they have it there now, but they sure didn't back in > '95. I had no trouble getting Coke Classic, Pepsi, > and of course Thumbs Up, but there wasn't a Diet Coke > to be found anywhere in Bharat Mata! > > I've never heard of anyone being killed by Coca Cola, > though a broken Coke bottle (if they still come in > glass) can be a deadly weapon! > > Keval > (with a fridge full of Diet Coke!) > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > Ammachi/ > > > Ammachi > > > > > > > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 08:11:25 -0700 > "Connie Habash" <Connie > Re: healing the eyes. > > > > > Start trying out a cosmetic (very black in colour ) which indian females > do apply ( especially keralites , on lower eye lids , in the early days > people were noramally extracting that from the remains of the temple lamp > ashes and all ) . forgot its name . pls do ask to any amma's keralite > devotees . heyy any mallu sisters there ? pls do mail here the name of it ... > > > > it is called Kajal, and it is known Ayurvedically to have very healing > properties for the eyes... contains camphor and I forget what else. I have > considered using it, even though I don't like makeup. You can apply a very > little bit and receive some benefits. I understand they sell a very pure > brand (the kind in Indian stores may not be) at Kali Ray's website: > http://gallery.bcentral.com/GID4607549DD200573-Health-Items.aspx this is > the address for their online shop, and you'll see the Kajal listed there. > An ayurvedic practitioner would likely recommend this. > Blessings, > Achintya > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Thu, 05 Aug 2004 15:54:53 -0000 > "satyadev" <satyadev108 > Boston Brother Bows to You > > Namah Shivaya, brothers and sisters in Amma... > > ...I have not posted here since Amma's visit last year! However, I do come to > read here often and love keeping up with you. I think Amma would want me to > participate more in online satsang! It is such a good way to start and end each > day. > > I was blessed to be able to receive Amma's darshan at Her Boston evening > program and at the RI Devi Bhava again this year. (Keval, I looked for you!! > Didn't see you or other T.O. brothers and sisters, but I was thinking of you all!) > I was able to bring a dear colleague of mine to Amma in RI, his first time. It > was a profoundly moving experience for him, which made my experience all > the more blessed and joyous! At the end of RI, we went around to the back > exit of the hall(11:45 A.M.!) to Amma's car to say goodbye and try to get one > last touch of Her hand. We were standing a row behind the people who > formed the first row of the human tunnel of Amma's children that forms when > She exits the hall. My colleague was standing a few people down toward Her > car. As She brushed all our hands as She passed, I saw Her brush by my > colleague's (Gerard's) hand, stop at his area and look directly at HIM with a > beaming smile, and reach Her hand out right to him! As he touched Her, She > looked over a few people directly to me, and reached out to me next and > grabbed my hand! Then, back to Gerard to grab his hand one more time! > Amma wanted to welcome Her newest little baby into the fold, and Gerard > (and I!) got an experience with Mother that we will never forget. She was > clearly saying, "I know who you are and who you came with! You're mine!", it > felt like to me, this little one who depends on Her and His Lord for so much, for > everything.... Thank you, Amma. Thank you, Lord. > > It was an especially beautiful Bhava... Mother was resplendent, ever more so > as the night unfolded into morning. The energy around Mother felt softer and > more playful this year, or was it just me? Things felt a little less frenetic and a > little easier. I had lots of wonderful connections and conversations with > Amma's children from all over... lots of first-timers coming up and asking me > questions at the booths... "which books should I buy? which CDs are best > here?", was like Amma saying, "you haven't signed up for enough seva! > You're helping newcomers... get busy!" It was great. > > In Boston, Amma blessed an "Om Christave Namaha" bracelet for me and put > it on my wrist Herself... I have yet to remove it! All I've done is close it tighter to > me. It was a beautiful moment I will always cherish. She has made it so clear > to me in so many ways, when I first tried meditating on Her Form, that I had > unfinished business with Jesus and needed to heal that relationship and > honor Him as my Lord as well, having been a Roman Catholic refugee and > pilgrim, wandering for so long... so Amma placing that bracelet on me was a > continuation of Her pointing the way for me, showing me the way to God in the > way that best suits each one of our unique dispositions and understanding. > Jai Ma! > > I joyfully bow you all, my fellow little sisters and brothers in God. > > At the Master's Feet, > satyadev > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:00:52 -0000 > "manoj_menon" <ammasmon > Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > > Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote: > > As I recall from previous RI retreats, there were Coke > > machines all over the Bryant campus. So why not sell > > Thums Up - the national soda of India - at Amma's > > programs? It's horrible stuff! Tastes like a cross > > between Sprite and Mountain Dew. > > Actually, Limca (not Limca Cola)is the lime-lemony drink, not Thums > up. You got the names mixed up. > > > There is also an Indian soda called Limca Cola, which I think was > > sold as a poor substitute for Coke and Pepsi during the > > years after Independence until the 1980s, when > > virtually all foreign products were banned in India. > > This is Thums up. If there is a national drink in India, it is this > one. It's a matter of perspective, but I don't think it's a poor > substitute to Coke/Pepsi. Early 80s, when Pepsi came to India, Thums > Up was apprehensive about surviving. But survive it did, and > magnificiently; Pepsi hardly made a dent into the Thums Up market. > Then when Coke came in, the owner of Thums Up caved in to the > pressure and sold his drink to Coke. > > Coke wanted to "phase out" Thums Up using grand advertising and > promotions, so that the Thums Up market would be gradually gotten by > Coke, and ensure that Pepsi not benefit by Thums Up's exit. > > It's been years since the takeover happened, and they were never > able to phase out Thums Up, as it proved to be just too popular... > Coke (India) has now started exporting Thums Up to the Far East too, > so there you go! > > In terms of fizz and sugar content, it lies between Coke and Pepsi. > > Coke is more fizzy than TU, TU is less sugary than Pepsi. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 11 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:27:04 -0400 > kalipadma > Re: healing the eyes. > > > > On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 08:11:25 -0700 "Connie Habash" > <Connie writes: > > > > > > Start trying out a cosmetic (very black in colour ) which indian > > females > > do apply... > > > it is called Kajal, and it is known Ayurvedically to have very > > healing > > properties for the eyes... contains camphor and I forget what else. > > I have > > considered using it, even though I don't like makeup. > > > As I am a Western man who is not a rock star, my suddenly appearing with > a line of Ayurvedic mascara under my eyes is likely to get me a lot of > unwanted attention. > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > ______________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 12 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:20:43 -0400 > kalipadma > Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > > > Aside from the pesticide problem, Coke factories in Kerala use well > water to make the beverage, and have been accused of contaminating the > well water. > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:00:47 -0700 (PDT) <jpm333_bc > writes: > > Just a note about Coke in India ... at the time of Amma's 50th. BD > > celebration, Amma recommended that we not purchase even major brand > > soft drinks in India, due to the high level of harmful chemicals > > (pesticides?) they contained. This may still be the case. > > > > Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:> A question was asked > > to Amma about Coca Cola and > > > if I am not > > > mistaken in my recollection as to why it should be > > > sold there and/or > > > have anything to do with it. > > > The answer basically that was given was that we > > > have choices and > > > that She has nothing to do with Coca Cola. > > > Like a knife itself which can be used by a > > > surgeon to save a life > > > or by one to kill someone so it is with Coca Cola. > > > > > > > As I recall from previous RI retreats, there were Coke > > machines all over the Bryant campus. So why not sell > > Thums Up - the national soda of India - at Amma's > > programs? It's horrible stuff! Tastes like a cross > > between Sprite and Mountain Dew. There is also an > > Indian soda called Limca Cola, which I think was sold > > as a poor substitute for Coke and Pepsi during the > > years after Independence until the 1980s, when > > virtually all foreign products were banned in India. > > > > I was really craving Diet Coke while in India. Maybe > > they have it there now, but they sure didn't back in > > '95. I had no trouble getting Coke Classic, Pepsi, > > and of course Thumbs Up, but there wasn't a Diet Coke > > to be found anywhere in Bharat Mata! > > > > I've never heard of anyone being killed by Coca Cola, > > though a broken Coke bottle (if they still come in > > glass) can be a deadly weapon! > > > > Keval > > (with a fridge full of Diet Coke!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > Ammachi/ > > > > > > Ammachi > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 13 > Thu, 05 Aug 2004 18:19:19 -0000 > "Aikya Param" <aikya > Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > > Regarding Coke, it has no food value, does it? In addition, from > the point of view of India, Coke is made by a foreign country. Why > should anybody be delighted to import a product that has no value > and makes lots of money for a foreign company. The Indian sodas > arent' any better for people, but at least they are made there. > > When I was in Kerala, the most delicious and refreshing drink we had > was called lime soda. You got all the ingredients...club soda, a > cut lime and sugar syrup and could assemble it yourself. I thought > that I would continue to love this madly when I returned to the US > but part of the allure is the steamy Kerala temperatures. > > Aikya > > Ammachi, kalipadma@j... wrote: > > > > Aside from the pesticide problem, Coke factories in Kerala use > well > > water to make the beverage, and have been accused of contaminating > the > > well water. > > > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > > > > On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 07:00:47 -0700 (PDT) > <jpm333_bc> > > writes: > > > Just a note about Coke in India ... at the time of Amma's > 50th. BD > > > celebration, Amma recommended that we not purchase even major > brand > > > soft drinks in India, due to the high level of harmful chemicals > > > (pesticides?) they contained. This may still be the case. > > > > > > Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote:> A question was asked > > > to Amma about Coca Cola and > > > > if I am not > > > > mistaken in my recollection as to why it should be > > > > sold there and/or > > > > have anything to do with it. > > > > The answer basically that was given was that we > > > > have choices and > > > > that She has nothing to do with Coca Cola. > > > > Like a knife itself which can be used by a > > > > surgeon to save a life > > > > or by one to kill someone so it is with Coca Cola. > > > > > > > > > > As I recall from previous RI retreats, there were Coke > > > machines all over the Bryant campus. So why not sell > > > Thums Up - the national soda of India - at Amma's > > > programs? It's horrible stuff! Tastes like a cross > > > between Sprite and Mountain Dew. There is also an > > > Indian soda called Limca Cola, which I think was sold > > > as a poor substitute for Coke and Pepsi during the > > > years after Independence until the 1980s, when > > > virtually all foreign products were banned in India. > > > > > > I was really craving Diet Coke while in India. Maybe > > > they have it there now, but they sure didn't back in > > > '95. I had no trouble getting Coke Classic, Pepsi, > > > and of course Thumbs Up, but there wasn't a Diet Coke > > > to be found anywhere in Bharat Mata! > > > > > > I've never heard of anyone being killed by Coca Cola, > > > though a broken Coke bottle (if they still come in > > > glass) can be a deadly weapon! > > > > > > Keval > > > (with a fridge full of Diet Coke!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > Ammachi/ > > > > > > > > > Ammachi > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > --------------------~--> > > > Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 > > > http://us.click./Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/XUWolB/TM > > > -------------------------------- > ---~-> > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________ > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 14 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 11:44:39 -0700 (PDT) > "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2 > Re: Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > > Namah Shivayah, > > Actually, the questioner was criticizing Amma for having products from both the > Coca Cola Corportation and the Hersheys Chocolate Corporation at the retreat. > ("With all due respect, Amma, how could you?" was the exact quote, I believe.) > > Amma had Swamiji ask the questioner that if her life was threatened by an illness, > wouldn't she take a life-saving medicine developed by those corporations. > The questioner (whom I never could spot in the crowd) retorted, "No!" Swamiji > (or Amma) said, "Well, you say that now, but you really would if the situation > arose." Amma pointed out that today's enemies are tomorrow's friends and today's > friends are tomorrow's enemies. She said the questioner could not use those > products if she chose or could organize heer own protest with 10,000 people. It was > also pointed out that MA Center had signed a contract with Bryant College not > to sell anything but Coke products. (This is a nationwide trend, I've noticed, that > both colleges and hotels have only one company's products available.) > > The next evening during the Atma Puja, Amma was giving discourse. At the end > of the discourse she said, "When one eats a meal, one should remember the > hands that prepared it; when one eats chocolate, one should remember the > chocolate company that made it," causing hearty laughter among those who > had heard the question the day before! > > In Amma's love, > Jyotsna > > Jim Butler <acujames wrote: > I would give anything to know what Amma thinks about some of these > questions. Boundless compassion tinged with more than a little > mirth, I'm guessing. :-) > -Jim > > Ammachi, WayOfEagle2@c... wrote: > > As this was my 2nd retreat in Rhode Island I always find the > > question and answer period with Amma very enlightened and at the > same > > time amusing. > > A question was asked to Amma about Coca Cola and if I am not > > mistaken in my recollection as to why it should be sold there > and/or > > have anything to do with it. > > The answer basically that was given was that we have choices > and > > that She has nothing to do with Coca Cola. > > Like a knife itself which can be used by a surgeon to save a > life > > or by one to kill someone so it is with Coca Cola. > > Or nuclear energy that can be used for either good or a > > destructive force so it is with Coca Cola. > > Or even fire itself that can be used to cook our food and keep > us > > warm in the Winter it has caused the destruction of many acres of > > land and homes and so it is with Coca Cola. > > > > Coca Cola in the CARBONATED form is very unhealthy to one. It > > breaks down the teeth over a period of time and is totally > > destructive ...over time... to one's health.......BUT........ > > Coca Cola SYRUP mixed with water is very beneficial to one's > health > > for it aids in purifying the kidney activity and bladder and the > > circulation between them. > > > > Alexander > > > > PS ... I Had been an A.R.E. member for many years which is the > > Association of Reasearch and Enlightenment. It is the foundation > of > > Edgar Cayce who many consider him to be the father of Holistic > > Medicine. One of his many readings had talked on Coca Cola why I > > mention it. Om Amma. > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > Ammachi/ > > > Ammachi > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 15 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 15:42:42 -0700 (PDT) > avinash ramidi <avinash7_99 > Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > > > > Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote: > > A question was asked to Amma about Coca Cola and > > if I am not > > mistaken in my recollection as to why it should be > > sold there and/or > > have anything to do with it. > > The answer basically that was given was that we > > have choices and > > that She has nothing to do with Coca Cola. > > Like a knife itself which can be used by a > > surgeon to save a life > > or by one to kill someone so it is with Coca Cola. > > > > As I recall from previous RI retreats, there were Coke > machines all over the Bryant campus. So why not sell > Thums Up - the national soda of India - at Amma's > programs? It's horrible stuff! Tastes like a cross > between Sprite and Mountain Dew There is also an > Indian soda called Limca Cola, which I think was sold > as a poor substitute for Coke and Pepsi during the > years after Independence until the 1980s, when > virtually all foreign products were banned in India. > > I was really craving Diet Coke while in India. Maybe > they have it there now, but they sure didn't back in > '95. I had no trouble getting Coke Classic, Pepsi, > and of course Thumbs Up, but there wasn't a Diet Coke > to be found anywhere in Bharat Mata! > > I've never heard of anyone being killed by Coca Cola, > though a broken Coke bottle (if they still come in > glass) can be a deadly weapon! > > Keval > (with a fridge full of Diet Coke!) > > > Dear Keval, > > Coke and Pepsi when compared to Thumps Up suck big time. Thumps Up ROCKS.Believe me, I am not exaggerating. All Indians in United States miss TU badly. Given the inferiority complex and contempt towards anything Indian,Thums Up should have phased out long back. But it thrives and prevails. > > I think Diet Coke is avilable in India, but it has no market. Unlike United States, half of the Indians are not obese nor Indians suffer from Severe Food Addiction. For most Indians Diet Coke tastes disguting, they would take Water as a low cal(if at all needed) suppliment. > > regards > Avinash. > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > Ammachi/ > > > Ammachi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 16 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 15:50:53 -0700 (PDT) > Linda Puckett <lkpuckett143 > Re: Re: A comment on coca cola asked Amma in Rhode Island > > Thank you for sharing this, Jyotsna! Very interesting > (and amusing.) > > I have some memory of being told in the past that the > current head of the Hershey Company grew up in an > orphanage, and as an adult has been generous in giving > to various causes benefitting children. Does anyone > know anything about this? > > Amma's love to you all -- > Amala > > --- "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2 wrote: > > > Namah Shivayah, > > > > Actually, the questioner was criticizing Amma for > > having products from both the > > Coca Cola Corportation and the Hersheys Chocolate > > Corporation at the retreat. > > ("With all due respect, Amma, how could you?" was > > the exact quote, I believe.) > > > > Amma had Swamiji ask the questioner that if her life > > was threatened by an illness, > > wouldn't she take a life-saving medicine developed > > by those corporations. > > The questioner (whom I never could spot in the > > crowd) retorted, "No!" Swamiji > > (or Amma) said, "Well, you say that now, but you > > really would if the situation > > arose." Amma pointed out that today's enemies are > > tomorrow's friends and today's > > friends are tomorrow's enemies. She said the > > questioner could not use those > > products if she chose or could organize heer own > > protest with 10,000 people. It was > > also pointed out that MA Center had signed a > > contract with Bryant College not > > to sell anything but Coke products. (This is a > > nationwide trend, I've noticed, that > > both colleges and hotels have only one company's > > products available.) > > > > The next evening during the Atma Puja, Amma was > > giving discourse. At the end > > of the discourse she said, "When one eats a meal, > > one should remember the > > hands that prepared it; when one eats chocolate, one > > should remember the > > chocolate company that made it," causing hearty > > laughter among those who > > had heard the question the day before! > > > > In Amma's love, > > Jyotsna > > > > Jim Butler <acujames wrote: > > I would give anything to know what Amma thinks about > > some of these > > questions. Boundless compassion tinged with more > > than a little > > mirth, I'm guessing. :-) > > -Jim > > > > Ammachi, WayOfEagle2@c... > > wrote: > > > As this was my 2nd retreat in Rhode Island I > > always find the > > > question and answer period with Amma very > > enlightened and at the > > same > > > time amusing. > > > A question was asked to Amma about Coca Cola > > and if I am not > > > mistaken in my recollection as to why it should be > > sold there > > and/or > > > have anything to do with it. > > > The answer basically that was given was that we > > have choices > > and > > > that She has nothing to do with Coca Cola. > > > Like a knife itself which can be used by a > > surgeon to save a > > life > > > or by one to kill someone so it is with Coca Cola. > > > Or nuclear energy that can be used for either > > good or a > > > destructive force so it is with Coca Cola. > > > Or even fire itself that can be used to cook > > our food and keep > > us > > > warm in the Winter it has caused the destruction > > of many acres of > > > land and homes and so it is with Coca Cola. > > > > > > Coca Cola in the CARBONATED form is very > > unhealthy to one. It > > > breaks down the teeth over a period of time and is > > totally > > > destructive ...over time... to one's > > health.......BUT........ > > > Coca Cola SYRUP mixed with water is very > > beneficial to one's > > health > > > for it aids in purifying the kidney activity and > > bladder and the > > > circulation between them. > > > > > > > > Alexander > > > > > > PS ... I Had been an A.R.E. member for many > > years which is the > > > Association of Reasearch and Enlightenment. It is > > the foundation > > of > > > Edgar Cayce who many consider him to be the father > > of Holistic > > > Medicine. One of his many readings had talked on > > Coca Cola why I > > > mention it. Om Amma. > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > Ammachi/ > > > > > > Ammachi > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 17 > Fri, 06 Aug 2004 00:05:13 -0000 > WayOfEagle2 > Thank you all for comments on Coca Cola > > Like anything else in life it can be helpful or detriment to one's > life. It all depends on the choices we have there. Some things are > good and some things are not so good. And so I would like to quote > the words to a Bob Dylan song......."What's good is bad and what's > bad is good you'll find out that it's all ONE in the end. > > Namaste > > > Alexander > > > > PS .. Does anything REALLY matters but love itself? > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 18 > Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:04:32 -0000 > "Erica" <sugarandbrine > Job interview > > Namah Shivayah all, > > I have a job interview tomorrow -- two actually. Please say a > small prayer for me that I am offered the right position. I would > surely appreciate it. > > With love, > Hopefully, > Niseema > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 19 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:15:12 -0700 (PDT) > balakrishnan Shankar <balakrishnan_sh > Prayers needed for me too > > Namah Shivaya > > Looks like Amma turned on the 'job karma' button on this year after the tour .. well, after taking some time off for the tour, my project too is in a critical state- need your prayers please ... > > Erica- best of luck for your interview tomorrow .. and Robin and everyone else being cooked- hang in there- Amma will see us through ... > > Jai Ma > > bala > > ps: It does get HOT in Amma's oven. > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 20 > Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:35:07 -0000 > "manoj_menon" <ammasmon > Boredom. > > Has anyone encountered boredom > 1. in spirituality (doing spiritual practices etc) > 2. in day-to-day life events? > 2a. while being a follower of a spiritual path?, or > 2b. while living life without being aware of spirituality? > 3. in pushing oneself to do basic everyday tasks? > > Needless to say, I am going through it, to a small extent. > > If you have gone through this, or have knowledge of this, then I > would like to know: > 1. what are the symptoms representative of? > 2. what are the remedies? > 3. what reference materials can i read to gain more insight? > 4. is there anything in jyotish that I need to do? > > I did a google search, and I got some pretty interesting answers, > but unfortunately, they are not convincing to me. > > If I have not dramatized this mail, it is because it's not in my > nature to do so. But this is a very serious question I have, and all > help you can render will be most gratefully taken. > > Jai Ma! > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 21 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 22:09:02 -0400 > "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou > Re: Prayers needed for me too > > > - > balakrishnan Shankar > Ammachi > Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:15 PM > Prayers needed for me too > > Namaste, > > Prayers and hugs all around for those who are cooking-and congratulations on the additional opportunity to hang on to your faith (and, hopefully, your behinds!!!). > > > Seriously, I hope Mother's will prevails and that the best outcomes occur for each of you. > > At Mother's lotus feet, > Snehalata > > Namah Shivaya > > Looks like Amma turned on the 'job karma' button on this year after the tour .. well, after taking some time off for the tour, my project too is in a critical state- need your prayers please ... > > Erica- best of luck for your interview tomorrow .. and Robin and everyone else being cooked- hang in there- Amma will see us through ... > > Jai Ma > > bala > > ps: It does get HOT in Amma's oven. > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > -------- ---- > Links > > > Ammachi/ > > b.. > Ammachi > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 22 > Thu, 5 Aug 2004 22:13:19 -0400 > "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou > Re: Boston Brother Bows to You > > > - > satyadev > Ammachi > Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:54 AM > Boston Brother Bows to You > > Please keep osting; this was just beautiful. Thank you. > > Namaste, > Snehalata > > Namah Shivaya, brothers and sisters in Amma... > > ...I have not posted here since Amma's visit last year! However, I do come to > read here often and love keeping up with you. I think Amma would want me to > participate more in online satsang! It is such a good way to start and end each > day. > > I was blessed to be able to receive Amma's darshan at Her Boston evening > program and at the RI Devi Bhava again this year. (Keval, I looked for you!! > Didn't see you or other T.O. brothers and sisters, but I was thinking of you all!) > I was able to bring a dear colleague of mine to Amma in RI, his first time. It > was a profoundly moving experience for him, which made my experience all > the more blessed and joyous! At the end of RI, we went around to the back > exit of the hall(11:45 A.M.!) to Amma's car to say goodbye and try to get one > last touch of Her hand. We were standing a row behind the people who > formed the first row of the human tunnel of Amma's children that forms when > She exits the hall. My colleague was standing a few people down toward Her > car. As She brushed all our hands as She passed, I saw Her brush by my > colleague's (Gerard's) hand, stop at his area and look directly at HIM with a > beaming smile, and reach Her hand out right to him! As he touched Her, She > looked over a few people directly to me, and reached out to me next and > grabbed my hand! Then, back to Gerard to grab his hand one more time! > Amma wanted to welcome Her newest little baby into the fold, and Gerard > (and I!) got an experience with Mother that we will never forget. She was > clearly saying, "I know who you are and who you came with! You're mine!", it > felt like to me, this little one who depends on Her and His Lord for so much, for > everything.... Thank you, Amma. Thank you, Lord. > > It was an especially beautiful Bhava... Mother was resplendent, ever more so > as the night unfolded into morning. The energy around Mother felt softer and > more playful this year, or was it just me? Things felt a little less frenetic and a > little easier. I had lots of wonderful connections and conversations with > Amma's children from all over... lots of first-timers coming up and asking me > questions at the booths... "which books should I buy? which CDs are best > here?", was like Amma saying, "you haven't signed up for enough seva! > You're helping newcomers... get busy!" It was great. > > In Boston, Amma blessed an "Om Christave Namaha" bracelet for me and put > it on my wrist Herself... I have yet to remove it! All I've done is close it tighter to > me. It was a beautiful moment I will always cherish. She has made it so clear > to me in so many ways, when I first tried meditating on Her Form, that I had > unfinished business with Jesus and needed to heal that relationship and > honor Him as my Lord as well, having been a Roman Catholic refugee and > pilgrim, wandering for so long... so Amma placing that bracelet on me was a > continuation of Her pointing the way for me, showing me the way to God in the > way that best suits each one of our unique dispositions and understanding. > Jai Ma! > > I joyfully bow you all, my fellow little sisters and brothers in God. > > At the Master's Feet, > satyadev > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > -------- ---- > Links > > > Ammachi/ > > b.. > Ammachi > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 23 > Thu, 05 Aug 2004 23:39:09 -0400 > Tom Childers <tom > Re: Boredom. > > I definitely experience boredom once in a while in my sadhana. When I > experience boredom (or any other difficult feeling) I sometimes try the > following steps: > > * say to myself that the feeling is not bad or good, just another empty > phenomenon passing across the screen of my awareness > > * explore the "feeling" of boredom? Where in my body do I feel it? How > does it feel? Restless? Tired? > > * Then I try to just be with the feeling, without going off on all kinds > of thought trains about the feeling. There's boredom and then there's > your "story" about boredom. What would boredom be like if you had no > "story" about it? One spiritual teacher said "The emotions are the mind > reflected in the body." > > * then I ask myself "Would it be totally OK if this feeling never went > away? Who would I be if this feeling was totally OK?" > > * then I contemplate that *every* phenomenon is the divine will of God > (this helps me take deeper responsibility for my own well-being). > Keeping that in mind, I contemplate what the feeling may be trying to > tell me (sometimes it has a message, sometimes not) > > * then I pray to Amma that (with Her grace) I can experience the feeling > with deep compassion and acceptance. > > * Then I imagine all the people who may feel the difficult feeling even > stronger then I do. Then I pray to Amma "Please let me fully surrender > to this feeling so that I may be of service to all people who suffer > from this feeling." If I can give up fighting against it and fully > accept my boredom, then I'm better able to help others who suffer from > boredom. So, in a strange way, I now feel gratitude for the boredom. > > Usually these steps work and I feel a spaciousness around the boredom or > whatever difficult feeling I'm experiencing. > > If the steps don't work, then I put on an Amma video and pop open a cold > "Thums Up" ;-) > > Jai Jai Amma, > > Tom > > manoj_menon wrote: > > >Has anyone encountered boredom > >1. in spirituality (doing spiritual practices etc) > >2. in day-to-day life events? > > 2a. while being a follower of a spiritual path?, or > > 2b. while living life without being aware of spirituality? > >3. in pushing oneself to do basic everyday tasks? > > > >Needless to say, I am going through it, to a small extent. > > > >If you have gone through this, or have knowledge of this, then I > >would like to know: > >1. what are the symptoms representative of? > >2. what are the remedies? > >3. what reference materials can i read to gain more insight? > >4. is there anything in jyotish that I need to do? > > > >I did a google search, and I got some pretty interesting answers, > >but unfortunately, they are not convincing to me. > > > >If I have not dramatized this mail, it is because it's not in my > >nature to do so. But this is a very serious question I have, and all > >help you can render will be most gratefully taken. > > > >Jai Ma! > > > > > > > > > >Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > ------ > Links > > > > > ------ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Bottled water, if sealed. Be sure it's sealed because unscrupulous people will fill empty bottles with impure water. I drank a cola (TU?) with no adverse effects. Too late I figured out that brushing my teeth with tap water was probably not too smart. However, I grew up on cistern water, so probably have some immunity from that. Through Amma's grace I wasn't ill. Jyotsna sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 8/6/04 12:43:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Aside from the pesticide problem, Coke factories in Kerala use well > water to make the beverage, and have been accused of contaminating the > well water. > What would be safe to drink for a Westerner in Kerala? Avram Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 8/6/04 12:43:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Aside from the pesticide problem, Coke factories in Kerala use well > water to make the beverage, and have been accused of contaminating the > well water. > What would be safe to drink for a Westerner in Kerala? Avram "Naryal Pani" aka Coconut Water and do ask the vendor to scarp out white pulp form the shell,it is simply relishing. Om Namh Shivaya Avinash. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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