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Hi and Sat Nam to everyone!

 

I'm trying to find some more info on Tershula meditation other

than what is in the explanation I have.

Is there anyone else out there that's done it? That would be

major help. I've found it very intense, probably because of the

combining of the muhlabhand with holding the breath. It seems pretty

straight forward, but for me extremely hard to do for more than a few

minutes. I've worked up to 31 mins. but feeling like my head was

going to pop off. Could be I'm not doing it exactly right.

All comments/suggestions welcome. Thanks and blessings.

 

 

Brad

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probably because of the

> combining of the muhlabhand with holding the breath.

 

Correction, make that with the breath held out.

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Sat Nam Brad,

I think you are doing it right. This meditation is just really so

powerful that you feel that you are burning up. Make sure that you drink a lot

of water so you do not get dehydrated. Start holding the breath out comfortably

and increase it a little with each new breath. After one hour you will be

sweating and your nervous system will be stressed but you will feel great.

 

Enjoy it and keep up.

 

Sincerely yours

Hari Sant Singh

 

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And touching people's hearts is the only language God knows.

 

 

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>Hi and Sat Nam to everyone!

>

> I'm trying to find some more info on Tershula meditation other

>than what is in the explanation I have.

> Is there anyone else out there that's done it? That would be

>major help. I've found it very intense, probably because of the

>combining of the muhlabhand with holding the breath. It seems pretty

>straight forward, but for me extremely hard to do for more than a few

>minutes. I've worked up to 31 mins. but feeling like my head was

>going to pop off. Could be I'm not doing it exactly right.

> All comments/suggestions welcome. Thanks and blessings.

>

>

>Brad

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Thanks Hari Sant,

Yes, that sounds like good advice. Its to easy to become

taxed quickly by holding the breath out too long, too early.

 

I think thats the key, to ease into it, even on the first part,

holding the breath. Did you have a problem with eyes being bloodshot

too?

 

 

Brad

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Hi Brad,

 

I've been doing this meditation since mid- december, and have found it to

be the most powerful I've ever done. I've never done more than 11 mins

because that felt like the right amount to me. It's brought me places no

other meditation has done, and I've done others for much longer periods

and greater stretches of time. There came a point where I had to stop for

a couple of weeks, because I just burnt out a bit. A lot of negative

issues came up, and I feel the "time out' was what I needed, but I'm back

on track again. It's a fabulous meditation, and I hope to extend the

time period soon. Enjoy it !

 

Hope this helps,

Avtar

 

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Avatar, Sat Nam

 

Thanks for the reply. I'd gathered from my local group that

Tershula was not as popluar (Sat Kriya, Sodarshan) as some others.

But its obviously much more strenuos, its as challenging as Sat Kriya

just in a different way

The side effects, dryness, heat, blood shot eyes

(for me anyway),... that I've noticed. Question, are you pulling

hard on muhlabhand or are you kind of easing up to pace yourself?

"There came a point where I had to stop for

> a couple of weeks, because I just burnt out a bit." In what way

were you burned out?

 

BTW, I'd gotten that as a hand out from my first teacher, not

really sure which manual it came from. Where did you get it from?

 

Its really an awesome meditation especially if you are practicing

SNR or thinking about it, which is why i started it originally.

 

Thanks for sharing Avtar. Keep in touch let me know how you are

progressing, I'm presently working on Sat Kriya.

 

Blessings..

 

Brad

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Hi Brad,

 

Actuallly, I found this meditation MUCH more challenging than Sat Kryia,

but then I suppose we are drawn to what we need. I noticed in another

post that you gave the mantra as Wahe Guru. In my book 'The Mind' it's

Har Har Wahe Guru. I first got this meditation from Dharam - he

mentioned it here last year and offered to share it with anyone who

wanted it. As soon as I read it I knew it was for me.

 

The burn out came from challenges in my life and I found I just could

not drum up any enthusiasm for yoga. I kept thinking I was just being

lazy , which was quite ridiculous given the workload I have been

carrying, and kept thinking I needed to force myself. When the day came

that I did just that, I found I just couldn't manage any yoga. This is

the first time that has happened to me so I decided to give myself a

break. It seemed to be what I needed and I have been able to begin

again, and go back to Tershula.

 

I've been doing the rootlock the way I always do it, which is not

terribly hard. More a pulling up and in of the entire pelic floor. I

haven't had the side effects you mention, mine were more emotional. I

went into a deep depression, which is very unusual for me, having being

described as 'sickeningly optimistic' ! For a while I lost the ablilty

to see this all as a clearing out of the nasties - things have to show up

before they can move out ! It only lasted a few weeks, but believe me,

it was long enough for me !!

 

I've wondered why this meditation isn't as popular as the other ones -

could Gururattan Kaur or Dharam shed any light on this ? Or anyone else

?

 

Blessings and love to all,

Avtar

 

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Avatar,

 

I knew there was an error or 2 in what I posted. I was recalling

it. Yes it is Har Har Wahe Guru.

 

> I've wondered why this meditation isn't as popular as the other

ones -

 

 

Other than it being physically taxing, and making you feel like you

are on fire, I can't think of anything :-). Seriously, it does

bring up alot of heat. I always feel it in the back of my head, my

eyes, and of course the wonderful sweating.

 

> could Gururattan Kaur or Dharam shed any light on this ? Or anyone

else?

 

Yes, I'd be interested in hearing more too.

 

 

 

Sat Nam

 

Brad

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Sat Nam,

 

> > I've wondered why this meditation isn't as popular as the other ones -

 

> Other than it being physically taxing, and making you feel like you are

on fire, I can't think of anything :-).

 

I guess that is enough.

 

I was wondering the same about the brainwave meditation which I now call

Divine Connection meditation. I absolutely love the effects and have

committed to 1000 days. Only the third meditation to get this attention

from me.

 

Actually, Yogi Bhajan has given thousands of meditations. It is a wonder

any reach the top of the hit parade. Often when he teaches one, you have

the feeling you must do this one. Then reality sets in and you do another

one. Or you do one for a while until you get the effects and them move on

to another set of experiences and energies that are more appropriate at that

time in your life.

 

And we each are drawn the the ones we need and are willing to do. I

personally do ones that create a great effect without having to hold my arms

in the air. I have fulfilled my quota of painful positions for this

lifetime.

 

The spread is good and every dish is tempting.

 

SAt Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

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Sat Nam,

 

Thanks for the comments Gururattan.

 

"I have fulfilled my quota of painful positions for this

lifetime."

I personally believe we've always got one more in us! I stay away from them

and I'm still working on my quota.

 

"brainwave meditation which I now call

Divine Connection meditation."

You've got my curiosity about the above. Does it rearrange brain patterns?

 

I'd like a copy or can I check it out on Kundaliniyoga.org?

 

Blessings

 

Brad

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Dear Brad,

 

> "brainwave meditation which I now call

> Divine Connection meditation."

> You've got my curiosity about the above. Does it rearrange brain

patterns?

 

Yes. Read all about it in the KYTRaining lesson. I think it is #22.

 

 

> I'd like a copy or can I check it out on Kundaliniyoga.org?

 

Yes.

 

You have to do it 31 minutes to get the effect.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

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I learned this from Guru Dev, but in a class you don't all of the detailed

instruction. I've been doing it for just 11 minutes for the last 25 days.

But not quite as specifically as Guru Rattan Kaur's description. He said it

would speed up ourdecision making and we as a class needed it. Why is the

description so different? I wish I could go to a written source imediately.

If it were too easy, no doubt I would be overwhelmed.

 

On one hand, I sense that a generalized "program" is being propogated. On

the other hand, there is some aiming of specific instruction to individuals.

 

In different sources I find slightly different explanations of many things.

I guess the only recourse is to be well read and to keep looking and to

communicate with others.

 

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"Gururattan K.Khalsa" <rattanak

<Kundaliniyoga>

Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:04 PM

Re: Re: Tershula, questions

 

 

> Dear Brad,

>

> > "brainwave meditation which I now call

> > Divine Connection meditation."

> > You've got my curiosity about the above. Does it rearrange brain

> patterns?

>

> Yes. Read all about it in the KYTRaining lesson. I think it is #22.

>

>

> > I'd like a copy or can I check it out on Kundaliniyoga.org?

>

> Yes.

>

> You have to do it 31 minutes to get the effect.

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> Gururattan Kaur

>

>

>

>

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Sat Nam, Gian Kaur,

 

> I guess the only recourse is to be well read and to keep looking and to

communicate with others.

 

The only recourse is to do the meditation and see what happens. They are

each very special and create changes way beyond the descriptions given. It

is a process of discovery.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Gururattan Kaur

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