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--- Sandeep Kodali <doktersandy wrote:

 

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> Sandeep Kodali <doktersandy

> Mon, 16 Aug 2004 06:42:24 +0100 (BST)

> Re: [VFA-members] The Gypsies and their

> Journey

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friend vijai <friend_vijai wrote:

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> Bury Me Standing--The Gypsies and Their Journey

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> by Isabel Fonseca (New York: Vintage, 1996)

> 322 pages, $13

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> Reviewed by C. J. S. Wallia

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> http://www.indiastar.com/wallia2.htm

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> Gypsies, the long-lost children of India, number

> about 12 million worldwide. In Europe, the 8 million

> Gypsies constitute its largest minority. Recent

> films like Tony Gatlif's Latcho Drom: A Musical

> History of the Gypsies from India to Spain (1994)

> and books like Isabel Fonseca's Bury Me Standing:

> The Gypsies and their Journey (1996) will help

> ensure that the Gypsies do not again disappear --

> outside the world's consciousness.

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> Bury Me Standing -- the title comes from the Gypsy

> saying, "Bury me standing, I've been on my knees all

> my life"-- is a compassionate book about a

> marginalized and much-maligned people. Nonetheless,

> over the past seven centuries, the Gypsies have made

> many contributions to European folk music, dance,

> and lore. An outstanding example of these

> contribitions --Flameno-- highlights the Cannes

> award-winning Latcho Drom .

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> When Isabel Fonseca, an American journalist and

> former assistant editor of the Times Literary

> Supplement, set out to write this book in 1991, she

> "had in mind that the Gypsies were 'the New Jews of

> Eastern Europe.'" After four years of field work

> that included living with Gypsy families in many

> European countries and researching library

> documents, she concluded that the Gypsies "alongside

> with the Jews are ancient scapegoats."

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> Traditionally, Gypsies never kept any written

> records nor sustained an oral history. The research

> on their origin began with a systematic philological

> analysis of their language, Romani, which has been

> firmly established as a Sanskritic language. Words

> like dand (tooth), mun(mouth), lon (salt), akha

> (eyes), khel (play) are identical with those in

> Punjabi spoken in northwest India. Fonseca does not

> comment on the obvious resemblance with Punjabi,

> presumably because of her unfamiliarity with it or

> any other modern Indian language. She is also

> puzzled by the Gypsy habit of shaking head

> side-to-side to signify yes. This distinctive

> gesture alone suffices to pinpoint their India

> origin -- rendering all linguistic evidence

> redundant! If confirmation were needed, it would be

> readily provided by the Gypsy music's use of the

> Indian ragas such as Bairavi, Mulkausa, and Kalyani

> as well as the bol (the rhythmic syllables -- tak,

> dhin, dha -- imitating drum beats).

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> Fonseca seems to think that the current scholarly

> consensus is that the Gypsies are from the Dom group

> of tribes, still extant in India, making their

> living as wandering musicians, smiths, metalworkers,

> scavengers, and basketmakers. They migrated first

> from northwest India to Persia in 950 A.D. at the

> invitation of Shah Behram Gur. As recorded by the

> contemporary Persian historian Hamza, the Shah "out

> of solicitude for his subjects, imported 12,000

> musicians for their listening pleasure."

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> Fonseca errs in stating that the Gypsy designation

> for themsleves as Roma is derived from Dom, one of

> the outcaste tirbes in India. Roma is a variation of

> "ramante," a Punjabi word meaning moving, wandering.

> This etymology is cogently discussed in W.R. Rishi's

> book "ROMA: The Panjabi Emigrants in Europe, second

> edition" published in 1996 by Punjabi University,

> Patiala, Punjab, India. Rishi traces the origin of

> the Roma to the 500, 000 prisoners of war taken by

> Muhamad Ghaznvi in 1001 from the Punjab to

> Afghanistan and subjected to Islamic conversion by

> the sword. Many of them resisted by escaping

> westward to the Christian lands of Armenia and

> Greece. To this day, the Roma use the word Gajo,

> derived from Ghazi-- the Koranic title of

> infidel-killing Muslims-- as a disparaging term. The

> Roma are from the warrior castes of the Punjab.

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> The Roma appeared in Europe first in 1300 A.D.,

> fleeing from forcible Islamic conversions by the

> Turks. In Europe, ironically, they were accused of

> being advance spies for the Turks, and persecuted

> again. They were also mistaken as Egyptians, whence

> the folklore origin of the term Gypsy. Fonseca

> apparently is unaware of yet another etymology:

> Punjab-say -- from Punjab, which was what the

> earliest immigrants to Persia replied when asked

> where they have come from. By the time, they reached

> Byzantium, the locals heard Punjab-say as Jabsay,

> Gypsy. The locals took Gypsy to mean from Egypt, a

> country they had heard of.

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> The history of the Roma in Europe, gleaned, for the

> most part, from court- and church-records and from

> rare academic publications, is a horror--Europe's

> heart of darkness. One of the examples Fonseca cites

> is the 1783 dissertation published by Heinrich

> Grellman of Gottingen University. In his book,

> Grellman describes an event of the previous year in

> Hont county, Hungary: "The case involved more than

> 150 Gypsies, forty-one of whom were tortured into

> confessions of cannibalism. Fifteen men were hanged,

> six broken on the wheel, two quartered, and eighteen

> women beheaded -- before an investigation ordered by

> the Hapsburg monarch Joseph II revealed that all of

> the supposed victims were still alive."

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> During World War II, the Nazis exterminated 1.5

> million Gypsies. At the Nuremberg trials, the Nazis'

> lawyers argued that the killing of the Gypsies was

> justified since they had been punished as criminals,

> not as a race. There was no one to speak for the

> Gypsies, and the international tribunal accepted

> this as exonerating defense! Ah, humanity.

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> Although tyrants, bigots, and the misinformed have

> often stereotyped the Gypsies as congenital

> criminals, sociological studies show that the

> Gypsies commit crimes no more than others. A

> large-scale study cited by Fonseca: In Romania,

> which has the largest Gypsy population of any

> country, out of all criminal convictions that of the

> Gypsies total 11 percent. Their population in the

> country? Exactly 11 percent. (The Gypsies in Romania

> do not have equal access to the justice system.

> Their situation is worse than that of the Blacks and

> Hispanics in the U.S.A.)

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> In recent decades, a Gypsy intelligentsia has begun

> to emerge. Fonseca presents detailed profiles of

> several. Dr. Ian Hancock, an American Gypsy, and the

> author of The Pariah Syndrome, was instrumental in

> bringing about, in April 1994, the first-ever

> Congressional hearing in Washington, D.C., on the

> human-rights abuses of the Gypsies. After prolonged

> efforts, Hancock also succeeded in the Gypsy

> inclusion in the United States Holocaust Memorial

> Museum. Gypsy inclusion had long been opposed by

> Elie Wiesel, the Nobel Peace Prize winner! It was

> only after Wiesel's resignation, writes Fonseca,

> herself an American Jew, that one Gypsy was allowed

> onto the museum's 65-member council. (The council

> comprised more than thirty Jews as well as Poles,

> Ukranians, and Russians among others but not a

> single Gypsy.)

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> Saip Jusuf is the author of one of the first Romani

> grammars and a principal leader in Skopje,

> Macedonia, which has the largest Gypsy settlement

> anywhere. Jusuf helped organize the first world

> Romany Congress in 1971 in London. The conference

> was financed in part by the Government of India, and

> at its urging the U.N. agreed first to recognize the

> Rom as a distinct ethnic group and several years

> later accorded voting rights to the International

> Romani Union.

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> In an interview with the author, Jusuf, having

> converted from Islam to his ancestral Hinduism,

> joyously displayed his new icon collection of

> Ganesha, Parvati, and Durga . Ramche Mustupha, a

> poet, showed his passport. Under "citizenship" it

> recorded Yugoslav; under "nationality," Hindu. The

> lost children of India, having found their ancestral

> land, are very proud of its ancient civilization --

> the oldest continuous civilization in the world --

> "Amaro Baro Thanh" (Romani for "our big land").

> Fonseca observes: "Many of the young women, fed up

> with the baggy-bottomed Turkish trousers they were

> supposed to wear, have begun to wear saris."

>

> Unlike other beleaguered and marginalized

> minorities, the Rom are not seeking a homeland of

> their own, a Romanistan, in or outside India. The

> Rom are resisting, as they always have, to maintain

> the freedom for a life-style of their choosing. "To

> allow this to the Gypsies," Vaclav Havel, in Prague,

> said, "is the litmus test of a civil society."

> However, Havel's is a lonely voice. All over Central

> and East Europe "Death to the Gypsies" graffiti can

> be observed. Since the Velvet Revolution in

> Czechoslavakia, twenty-eight Gypsies have been

> murdered.

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> Fonseca cites several specific cases of terrorism

> against the Gypsies during the 90's. "In February

> 1995, in Oberwart, Austria, a town seventy-five

> miles south of Vienna, four Gypsy men were murdered.

> A pipe bomb had been concealed behind a sign that

> said, in Gothic tombstone lettering, 'Gypsies go

> back to India'; the bomb exploded in their faces

> when they tried to take it down. The first response

> of the Austrian police was to search the victims'

> own settlement for weapons; 'Gypsies killed by own

> bomb,' the papers reported." Oberwart, Austria, is

> in Burgenland, where the Gypsies have been settled

> for three centuries.

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> The resurging repression of the Gypsies is Europe's

> continuing crime against humanity. At the Nazi

> trials in Nuremberg, there was no one to speak on

> behalf of the Gypsies. Now, the Gypsies have at

> least this eloquent book exposing Europe's

> recrudescing genocidal threats to them.

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