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dear friend

 

Actually after death, the soul will be enquired in the ‘Pretaloka’ for ten

days and then only he will be sent to hell for his bad deeds and to heaven for

the good deeds and to ‘Pitruloka’ for mixed deeds. If the soul has straightly

gone to heaven, why his sons are donating cow (Godana), which is meant for

crossing the Vaitarini River, which is before the hell? Infact the soul is not

enjoying the results of the previous deeds.

 

When the soul leaves this body, it goes to hell and is washed severely like a

cloth. The entire dirt goes but a little dirt remains in the soul, which is

called as Karma Sesha. The Karma Sesha means again all the qualities of the soul

with least intensity. When the soul comes back to this world these qualities are

again grown in this atmosphere of earth. The soul again goes to hell for severe

wash. Like this the cycle repeats. When the soul comes to this earth from the

hell, it does works according to the Karma Sesha only i.e., the previous

qualities. In that sense the Karma Sesha is responsible for all the works on

this earth. These works again intensify the Karma Sesha. Buddhi (Karma Sesha)

produces Karma (action) and Karma intensifies the Buddhi. When the soul comes

here there is no result to be enjoyed in this world.

 

A thief was severely beaten in the police station and was left. When the

thief comes out of the police station his quality to steal is very very weak.

But within a short time due to the association of the other thieves in the world

he becomes the original thief and is again beaten in the police station.

Therefore when the thief comes out of the police station there is no punishment

that remains with him. Similarly when the soul is born there is no punishment

that remains with the soul. The only thing that remains with the soul is the

Karma Sesha, which is a very weak quality to steal. This Karma Sesha is called

Sanchita and is also called as the writing of Brahma on the forehead. This

guides the future action of the soul in this world. The birth of the soul is

according to the nature of this Karma Sesha only, which is called Prarabdha. The

actions in this world produce strength to the Karma Sesha and such strength is

called Aagami. All this is related to the souls and the world,

which is based on the ignorance and the blind attraction of the family bonds.

The Lord has nothing to do with this.

 

The work of the Lord is completely different. The Lord enters this world to

uplift the human beings. Such divine work of the Lord is to be recognized and

your participation in such work will be related to the Lord. Such participation

will give you the Brahma Loka in a completely different divine path called

Archiraadi Maarga as told in Gita. For such participation you must first

recognize the birth of the Lord in human form. If you do not recognize the Lord

in the human form there is no question of participation in His work. Gita says

that first the divine birth of the Lord must be recognized and then the divine

work for participation (Janma Karmachame Divyam). Except this type of divine

work the Lord has no connection with the other deeds of souls as said in Gita

(Na Kartrutvam Na Karmaani Lokasya). Thus one should not mix the works of the

souls and the work of the Lord.

 

posted by: His servant

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

Aditya Mukherjee <adimuk wrote:

Dear baba ji

Which books according to you give most detailed description of the period after

death - to - before birth.

 

The souls journey after death to the nexth birth

Kinds of karma and its effect - what bad karma brings about what hell suffering

or good karma effect.

br aditya

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, Aditya Mukherjee <adimuk wrote:

> Which books according to you give most detailed description of

the period after death - to - before birth .

 

 

Dear Aditya,

 

the most authenticated book is Garud-Purana which gives detailed

information about soul's journey after death.

 

Autobiography of a Yogi also has a full chapter devoted to

different lokas where soul goes after death.

 

Shri Sivananda has also in his book "What Happens to soul after

death"..has given a very detailed description about journey after

death.

 

One woman in my friend circle had a "Retrun after Death"

experience and gave the most authenticated mention of soul's journey

after death.

 

In her words " I was ill for a long time...and one day i felt

something very strange going to happen. My legs and hands lost power

and i was unable to move them at will. MY husband and son were on my

side and were talking to me. I felt as if their voices are fading

and i could hear their voices echoing many times. Then i noticed

that the electric bulbs light was diminishing...i felt

afraid...suddenly i felt as if someone has picked me up...and i fly

in the air...and suddenly fell down . This happened many times.

When I fell down...i noticed my senses came back to body. I was very

alert and anxious. I thought I am going to die and was curious to

know what will happen.

 

Then I saw a big whirlpool...black and very big before my body.

This whirlpool had tremendous sound and was circling at fierce

speed. due to its rotation a sort of vaccum was created which sucked

me inside it. I felt as if 1000s of hairs on my body were snapped

together. It was painful..but for some milliseconds.

 

And suddenly i felt myself very light..and then I was sucked into

that whirlpool. As I entered the whirlpool..it was very cold and

dark and i started rotating in it as if in a washing machine. Then I

lost senses.

 

When I regained my senses i found myself in a moon like place. It

was dry and hot and i was uncomfortable there. I tried to move but

culd not..i wished i could have gone to some cold place...and

suddenly i found myself in a beautiful garden...with roses and cool

breeze.

 

Then two clouds whose form was like human came down...picked me up

and float towards earth with me...when i reached near earth..i felt

as if falling down from roof. And then with a big jerk i entered my

body. I wake up and saw my son crying over my apparent death.

--

 

This expanation of NDE was amazing and i tried to fit this into

the theories of hinduism and with some technical deviations...i found

this to be true.

 

It is very important to discuss life after death...as this will

prepare us for our journey beyond life..without any fear or anxiety

 

with love

 

baba

[Guest guest]

, prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

>

> dear friend

>

> Actually after death, the soul will be enquired in

 

Yess your description is correct as per Garuda purana...and this

happens because of disintegration of all the bodies after death...and

it takes 10 days for the different bodies (koshas) to integrate into

a sukhma jivatama to undergo purging in heaven/hell

 

But this is for a common person..not an advanced sadhaka. A

spiritually progressed jiva may not undergo this ordeal and may open

his eyes on the relevant loka (astral plane )

 

There are seven Positive astral planes and seven negative astral

planes, which may be called hell or heaven.

 

Normally Nature do not allow a human to take birth as animal...due

to the deep rooted sanskara as human being engraved in the jiva. But

where one has very strong negative vrittis or violence, anger, Moha

etc...nature finds it suitable to give birth to the jiva in a lower

birth and work out his negative vritis...such animals come back to

human life after purging is over.

 

Those who have strong bonds for their house, property etc. may

reborn immediately as lizards, flies etc. sticking to their

property...this is what Purana say

 

baba

[Guest guest]

Swami Sivanada says in his book "What happens to soul after death"

....

 

At the time of death when the breathing becomes difficult the Jiva or

the individual self that is in the body goes out making noises. Just

as a cart heavily loaded goes on creaking, so does the Jiva creak

while the Prana departs.

 

The Jiva or the individual self has the subtle body as its limiting

adjunct. It moves between this and the next world as between the

waking and the dream states. It moves from birth to death. While in

birth it associates itself with the physical body and the organs, in

death it disassociates with them. The departure of the soul is

immediately followed by the departure of the vital force. It is

presided over by the Supreme self-luminous Atman. It is through the

light of the self that the man sits, moves and does his daily duties.

 

The subtle body has the vital force or Prana as its chief

constituent. It is revealed by the self-luminous Atman. When the

subtle body rises up, the Atman also seems to go with it. Otherwise

how can the self, being unified with the Supreme Self, go making

noises like a cart? It goes making noises because it is afflicted by

the pain as the vital parts are being slashed. Loss of memory is

caused as a result of this vital and excruciating pain. He is then

put in a helpless state of mind on account of the pangs felt.

Therefore, he is unable to adopt the requisite means for his well-

being, before that crisis comes. He must be alert in practising the

means conducive to that end. He is not able to think of God.

 

In old age, the body becomes thin and emaciated on account of fever

and other diseases. When the body is extremely emaciated by fever and

other causes, dyspnoea sets in and at this stage the man goes making

noises like the overloaded cart.

 

The causes of death are many and indefinite. Man is ever in the jaws

of death. Death overtakes him suddenly when he is the least prepared

for it. He ever thinks that he will escape death or even if he

believes in death to be certain he expects it only at a very distant

date. Just as the mango, fig or the fruit of the Peepul tree is

detached from its stalk, so does this Infinite being completely

detached himself from the parts of the body, again go in the same way

that he came to particular bodies, for the unfoldment of his vital

force. The self that is identified with the subtle body completely

detaches itself from the parts of the body such as the eye, etc. He

is not able to preserve the body through the vital force at the time

of his departure. Just as he detaches himself from the body and the

organs, and enters deep sleep, even so, he detaches himself from this

body during death and attaches himself to another. As frequently as

man moves from the dreaming to the waking, from the waking to the

dream and thence to deep sleep, so frequently does he transmigrate

from one body to another. He has transmigrated from many such bodies

in the past and will continue to do so in the future as well. He gets

his future birth according to his past work, knowledge and so forth.

He goes from one body to another, only for the unfoldment of the

vital force. It is by this vital force, that he fulfils his object

viz., the enjoyment of the fruits of his work. The vital force is

only auxiliary to the enjoyment of the fruits of his work and hence

the specification: "For the unfoldment of his vital force."

 

The Jiva has adopted the whole universe as his means to the

realisation of the fruits of his work and he is going from one body

to another to fulfil this object. Therefore the whole universe

implied by his work waits for him with the requisite means for the

realisation of the fruits of his work made ready. The Satapatha

Brahmana says, "A man is born into the body that has been made for

him" (VI-ii. 2-27). It is analogous to the case of a man about to

return from the dream to the waking state.

[Guest guest]

100% agree baba

 

--- Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

 

> Yess your description is correct as per Garuda

> purana...and this

> happens because of disintegration of all the bodies

>

[Guest guest]

This is interesting. Can you tell if soul remembers his last life

while on astral worlds?

 

what decides the number of astral world where the soul will reach?is

it his good karma?

 

gaytri

 

, "Baba ji" <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

>

> , prakki surya <dattapr2000@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friend

> >

> > Actually after death, the soul will be enquired in

>

> Yess your description is correct as per Garuda purana...and this

>