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Jai Ramanuja,

Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord whose face

was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA)

DASAN

On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote :

>Sri Krishnaya Namah!

>

>Dear Bhaktas,

>

>I would appreciate if you could let me know

>

>the meaning of the word - Hayagriva.

>

>the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a delicious

>dish called

>by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord has also

>been called

>by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya offered to

>Lord

>Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once

>consumed by the

>Lord.

>

>Humble Pranams!

>

>Sukumar

>

>

>Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!

>

>

> Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi]

>16/04/2003 10:21 AM

>

> Re: need clarification.

>

>Sri

>Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

>

> > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam of

> > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan?

>

>Please see:

>http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html

>

> >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of Mahavishnu

>too?

> >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam?

>

>http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html

>

>There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The DasA

>avatArams

>are the most prominent.

>

>Regards,

>

>Malolan Cadambi

>

>

>

>

>

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Jai Ramanuja,

Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures (saatvik)mension

LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom seekers of

salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says that those

worshipping other gods reach them while those worshipping me

attain me from where there is no return.Though the efforts are

same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits approach other

gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even ADI

SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented thus.Hence

srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only Bhagvan with one

mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in GITA).This is a brief

answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI SHANKARA'S GITA

COMMENTARY.

dasan

9minor)

, 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote :

>Dear All

>

>Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have asked several

>time

>these question but none of them have replied.

>Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say no pl let

>me

>know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka.

>

>Kindly do replay

>

>nagaraj

>

> -

> Vasan Sriranga Chari

> sukumar

> Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; ;

>ramanuja ; bhakti-list

> Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM

> Re: RE: Re: need clarification.

>

>

>

> Jai Ramanuja,

> Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord whose

>face

> was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA)

> DASAN

> On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote :

> >Sri Krishnaya Namah!

> >

> >Dear Bhaktas,

> >

> >I would appreciate if you could let me know

> >

> >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva.

> >

> >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a

>delicious

> >dish called

> >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord has

>also

> >been called

> >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya offered

>to

> >Lord

> >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once

> >consumed by the

> >Lord.

> >

> >Humble Pranams!

> >

> >Sukumar

> >

> >

> >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!

> >

> >

> > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi]

> > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM

> >

> > Re: need clarification.

> >

> >Sri

> >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

> >

> > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam

>of

> > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan?

> >

> >Please see:

>

> >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html

> >

> > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of

>Mahavishnu

> >too?

> > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam?

> >

> >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html

> >

> >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The DasA

> >avatArams

> >are the most prominent.

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >Malolan Cadambi

> >

> >

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Dear Sir,

 

You raise a point I have heard many times before (although in different

contexts). I had a question then as I do now:

Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are all are not equal"?

Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord Vinayaka before reciting

either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram?

 

I would really appreciate any answer you might have or any pointers you

might have that I can follow that might help me understand Vaishnavism

better.

 

Siva.

 

 

Vasan Sriranga Chari [vasan_chari_hk]

Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:48 AM

Nagraj

Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi'; ;

ramanuja; bhakti-list; sukumar

Re: Re: RE: Re: need clarification.

 

Jai Ramanuja,

Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures (saatvik)mension

LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom seekers of

salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says that those

worshipping other gods reach them while those worshipping me

attain me from where there is no return.Though the efforts are

same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits approach other

gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even ADI

SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented thus.Hence

srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only Bhagvan with one

mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in GITA).This is a brief

answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI SHANKARA'S GITA

COMMENTARY.

dasan

9minor)

, 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote :

>Dear All

>

>Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have asked several

>time

>these question but none of them have replied.

>Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say no pl let

>me

>know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka.

>

>Kindly do replay

>

>nagaraj

>

> -

> Vasan Sriranga Chari

> sukumar

> Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; ;

>ramanuja ; bhakti-list

> Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM

> Re: RE: Re: need clarification.

>

>

>

> Jai Ramanuja,

> Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord whose

>face

> was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA)

> DASAN

> On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote :

> >Sri Krishnaya Namah!

> >

> >Dear Bhaktas,

> >

> >I would appreciate if you could let me know

> >

> >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva.

> >

> >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a

>delicious

> >dish called

> >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord has

>also

> >been called

> >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya offered

>to

> >Lord

> >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once

> >consumed by the

> >Lord.

> >

> >Humble Pranams!

> >

> >Sukumar

> >

> >

> >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!

> >

> >

> > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi]

> > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM

> >

> > Re: need clarification.

> >

> >Sri

> >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

> >

> > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam

>of

> > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan?

> >

> >Please see:

>

> >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html

> >

> > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of

>Mahavishnu

> >too?

> > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam?

> >

> >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html

> >

> >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The DasA

> >avatArams

> >are the most prominent.

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >Malolan Cadambi

 

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When Narayana says I am everything. I am in everything. How does Ganesha

become different for Narayana himself. For those who seek the eternity, the

supreme power with a pure mind and genuine bakthi, he will show himself to

the baktha in every form in every jeevan.

It is all perspective.

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>"Vasan Sriranga Chari" <vasan_chari_hk

>"Vasan Sriranga Chari" <vasan_chari_hk

>"Nagraj" <g_nagraj

>CC: "'Malolan Cadambi'" <mcadambi, ,

>ramanuja, "bhakti-list" <bhakti-list>,

>"sukumar" <sukumar

>Re: Re: RE: Re: need clarification.

>24 Apr 2003 06:48:01 -0000

>

>Jai Ramanuja,

>Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures (saatvik)mension

>LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom seekers of

>salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says that those

>worshipping other gods reach them while those worshipping me

>attain me from where there is no return.Though the efforts are

>same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits approach other

>gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even ADI

>SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented thus.Hence

>srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only Bhagvan with one

>mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in GITA).This is a brief

>answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI SHANKARA'S GITA

>COMMENTARY.

>dasan

>9minor)

>, 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote :

> >Dear All

> >

> >Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have asked several

> >time

> >these question but none of them have replied.

> >Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say no pl let

> >me

> >know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka.

> >

> >Kindly do replay

> >

> >nagaraj

> >

> > -

> > Vasan Sriranga Chari

> > sukumar

> > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; ;

> >ramanuja ; bhakti-list

> > Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM

> > Re: RE: Re: need clarification.

> >

> >

> >

> > Jai Ramanuja,

> > Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord whose

> >face

> > was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA)

> > DASAN

> > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote :

> > >Sri Krishnaya Namah!

> > >

> > >Dear Bhaktas,

> > >

> > >I would appreciate if you could let me know

> > >

> > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva.

> > >

> > >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a

> >delicious

> > >dish called

> > >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord has

> >also

> > >been called

> > >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya offered

> >to

> > >Lord

> > >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once

> > >consumed by the

> > >Lord.

> > >

> > >Humble Pranams!

> > >

> > >Sukumar

> > >

> > >

> > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!

> > >

> > >

> > > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi]

> > > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM

> > >

> > > Re: need clarification.

> > >

> > >Sri

> > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

> > >

> > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam

> >of

> > > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan?

> > >

> > >Please see:

> >

> > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html

> > >

> > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of

> >Mahavishnu

> > >too?

> > > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam?

> > >

> > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html

> > >

> > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The DasA

> > >avatArams

> > >are the most prominent.

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >

> > >Malolan Cadambi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Vaishnavites generally pray to Sri Vishvaksena to

remove the obstacles. Vishvaksena is the head of the

army in Sri Vaikuntam and is the chief of the army

for the Leela Vibhuthi (this temepraory aboard

consisting of numerous universies) and Nithy Vibhoothi

(permanent abode). Vinayaka is the chief of the army

in the devaloka and our universe. Consequently, it is

siad that there are numerous Vinayakas in the army of

Sri Vishvaksena. Both are above us and are vandaniyas.

However, as Sri vaishnavas, we pray to Sri Vishvaksena

for any obstacle removal. It is up to you whether you

want to approach the local S.P. or the I.G.P. For

those who do not know the IGP, they may approach the

SP. However, thos who know the IGP prefer to appraoch

the IGP directly.

 

I hope, I have answered your question. Please let me

know if you have more questions or comments.

 

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Sincerely

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--- Bhaktan <bhaktan wrote:

> Dear Sir,

>

> You raise a point I have heard many times before

> (although in different

> contexts). I had a question then as I do now:

> Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are

> all are not equal"?

> Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord

> Vinayaka before reciting

> either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram?

>

> I would really appreciate any answer you might have

> or any pointers you

> might have that I can follow that might help me

> understand Vaishnavism

> better.

>

> Siva.

>

>

> Vasan Sriranga Chari

> [vasan_chari_hk]

> Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:48 AM

> Nagraj

> Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi'; ;

> ramanuja; bhakti-list; sukumar

> Re: Re: RE: Re: need

> clarification.

>

> Jai Ramanuja,

> Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures

> (saatvik)mension

> LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom

> seekers of

> salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says

> that those

> worshipping other gods reach them while those

> worshipping me

> attain me from where there is no return.Though the

> efforts are

> same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits

> approach other

> gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even

> ADI

> SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented

> thus.Hence

> srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only

> Bhagvan with one

> mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in

> GITA).This is a brief

> answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI

> SHANKARA'S GITA

> COMMENTARY.

> dasan

> 9minor)

> , 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote :

> >Dear All

> >

> >Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have

> asked several

> >time

> >these question but none of them have replied.

> >Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say

> no pl let

> >me

> >know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka.

> >

> >Kindly do replay

> >

> >nagaraj

> >

> > -

> > Vasan Sriranga Chari

> > sukumar

> > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ;

> ;

> >ramanuja ; bhakti-list

> > Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM

> > Re: RE: Re: need

> clarification.

> >

> >

> >

> > Jai Ramanuja,

> > Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be

> the lord whose

> >face

> > was like a horse is called

> HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA)

> > DASAN

> > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote :

> > >Sri Krishnaya Namah!

> > >

> > >Dear Bhaktas,

> > >

> > >I would appreciate if you could let me know

> > >

> > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva.

> > >

> > >the above is necessitated as, we used to

> prepare a

> >delicious

> > >dish called

> > >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and

> the Lord has

> >also

> > >been called

> > >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri

> Madhvacharya offered

> >to

> > >Lord

> > >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same

> name once

> > >consumed by the

> > >Lord.

> > >

> > >Humble Pranams!

> > >

> > >Sukumar

> > >

> > >

> > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!

> > >

> > >

> > > Malolan Cadambi

> [sMTP:mcadambi]

> > > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM

> > >

> > > Re: need

> clarification.

> > >

> > >Sri

> > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

> > >

> > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an

> avatharam

> >of

> > > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan?

> > >

> > >Please see:

> >

> >

>

>http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html

> > >

> > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an

> avatharam of

> >Mahavishnu

> > >too?

> > > >Why are we not including him in the

> Dasavatharam?

> > >

> >

>

>http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html

> > >

> > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the

> Lord. The DasA

> > >avatArams

> > >are the most prominent.

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >

> > >Malolan Cadambi

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If we understand or agree upon a definition of GOD

then many questions can be answered. I have accepted

a simple definition of GOD as follows:

GOD is all things infinite and in every dimension we

may think of.

Having said that there can only be one god.

There is support for this in upanishads and there is

no

higher truth than Upanishads.

This god principle is also absolute, in that like

speed of light it never changes from any perspective.

In all frames of references HE is same. Infinitely

merciful if I demonstrate anything like Prahalada.

HE is also infinitely unforgiving if

I behave like Hiranyakasipu.

lest my words are mistaken HE does not imply any

gender to this GOD.

Like Swamy Nammazwar says GOD is IT, HE and SHE.

 

Now we may call or refer to this GOD in any number

of ways. As long as we invoke that one GOD regardless

of the names we use, HE will bless us.

My favorite name for this GOD is Sriman Narayana.

This name brings me a lot of joy, calm and happiness.

Find that name that brings you joy, happiness

and a sense of purpose.

 

How to experience is this GOD. Swamy Nammazwar

again clarifies this, if we approach HIM, HE will

approach us. If we run away from HIM, HE will

run away from us. Swamy Nammazwar says

" anugin anugum akalin akalum ".

So start developing a taste for

HIM and soon you will experience HIM.

 

PAST has no bearing. Start today.

procedures, rituals, prescriptions are all secondary

to your love for GOD. We can find copious examples

of this Azwar life histories.

 

Self Surrender is the best principle in approaching

GOD. Because HE is infinite in all dimensions,

and we are finite, we can only influence HIM by

surrendering without any expectation. All of this

is clearly explained in GITA.

 

Adi Sankara, the foremost Narayana devotee, clearly

says read a little bit of GITA in Baja Govindam.

 

There is no higher truth or experience than Govinda.

There is no difference between Govinda or any other

name you choose. All names imply Govinda and Govinda

alone.

 

When our mind is focused on Govinda, then our mind

will not hear, see or feel anything but Govinda.

this is what we all should seek!

here again Azwar Nammazwar has "Unnum Sorum, parugum

neerum ellam Kannan"

 

Seek those things in life that help you in seeking

Govinda more. Stay away from things that distract

you from Govinda.

 

if you wish to find Govinda, start with MathuraKavi

Azwars work and enjoying his works set your elevated

mind on to Nammazwar. All your wants will be

fullfilled.

the road to Govinda is a slippery one. Therefore we

need a guide. A guide who will forgive and forget

our misgivings and help us.

If you cannot find an Acharyan, then take to

seek Swamy Nammazwar. He will and HE can accept all of

us provided we can meditate upon Swamy Nammazwar.

 

In my limited life I find nothing more inspiring

or lifting or truthful than the above.

I surrender!

Swamy Nammazwar thiruvadigale saranam.

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> Dear Sir,

>

> You raise a point I have heard many times before

> (although in different

> contexts). I had a question then as I do now:

> Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are

> all are not equal"?

> Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord

> Vinayaka before reciting

> either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram?

>

> I would really appreciate any answer you might have

> or any pointers you

> might have that I can follow that might help me

> understand Vaishnavism

> better.

>

> Siva.

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Saturday, April 26, 2003 4:10 AM

RE: Re: RE: Re: need clarification.

 

 

> Dear Siva

>

> If we understand or agree upon a definition of GOD

> then many questions can be answered. I have accepted

> a simple definition of GOD as follows:

> GOD is all things infinite and in every dimension we

> may think of.

> Having said that there can only be one god.

> There is support for this in upanishads and there is

> no

> higher truth than Upanishads.

> This god principle is also absolute, in that like

> speed of light it never changes from any perspective.

> In all frames of references HE is same. Infinitely

> merciful if I demonstrate anything like Prahalada.

> HE is also infinitely unforgiving if

> I behave like Hiranyakasipu.

> lest my words are mistaken HE does not imply any

> gender to this GOD.

> Like Swamy Nammazwar says GOD is IT, HE and SHE.

>

> Now we may call or refer to this GOD in any number

> of ways. As long as we invoke that one GOD regardless

> of the names we use, HE will bless us.

> My favorite name for this GOD is Sriman Narayana.

> This name brings me a lot of joy, calm and happiness.

> Find that name that brings you joy, happiness

> and a sense of purpose.

>

> How to experience is this GOD. Swamy Nammazwar

> again clarifies this, if we approach HIM, HE will

> approach us. If we run away from HIM, HE will

> run away from us. Swamy Nammazwar says

> " anugin anugum akalin akalum ".

> So start developing a taste for

> HIM and soon you will experience HIM.

>

> PAST has no bearing. Start today.

> procedures, rituals, prescriptions are all secondary

> to your love for GOD. We can find copious examples

> of this Azwar life histories.

>

> Self Surrender is the best principle in approaching

> GOD. Because HE is infinite in all dimensions,

> and we are finite, we can only influence HIM by

> surrendering without any expectation. All of this

> is clearly explained in GITA.

>

> Adi Sankara, the foremost Narayana devotee, clearly

> says read a little bit of GITA in Baja Govindam.

>

> There is no higher truth or experience than Govinda.

> There is no difference between Govinda or any other

> name you choose. All names imply Govinda and Govinda

> alone.

>

> When our mind is focused on Govinda, then our mind

> will not hear, see or feel anything but Govinda.

> this is what we all should seek!

> here again Azwar Nammazwar has "Unnum Sorum, parugum

> neerum ellam Kannan"

>

> Seek those things in life that help you in seeking

> Govinda more. Stay away from things that distract

> you from Govinda.

>

> if you wish to find Govinda, start with MathuraKavi

> Azwars work and enjoying his works set your elevated

> mind on to Nammazwar. All your wants will be

> fullfilled.

> the road to Govinda is a slippery one. Therefore we

> need a guide. A guide who will forgive and forget

> our misgivings and help us.

> If you cannot find an Acharyan, then take to

> seek Swamy Nammazwar. He will and HE can accept all of

> us provided we can meditate upon Swamy Nammazwar.

>

> In my limited life I find nothing more inspiring

> or lifting or truthful than the above.

> I surrender!

> Swamy Nammazwar thiruvadigale saranam.

> adiyen

> anandavalli dasan

> --- Bhaktan <bhaktan wrote:

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > You raise a point I have heard many times before

> > (although in different

> > contexts). I had a question then as I do now:

> > Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are

> > all are not equal"?

> > Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord

> > Vinayaka before reciting

> > either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram?

> >

> > I would really appreciate any answer you might have

> > or any pointers you

> > might have that I can follow that might help me

> > understand Vaishnavism

> > better.

> >

> > Siva.

>

>

>

>

> Srirangasri-

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Jai Ramanuja,

The VED says AGNI DEVANAAM AVAMAHA ,VISHNU PARAMAHA.Hence there is

gradation in the deva group.But VISHNU being omnipresent ,He is

antaryami of everything from Brahma to ant to inanimate

beings.Vishnu alone is the supreme reality (ved says NARAYANA

PARAM BRAHMA)& all others are jivas which are graded from ants to

gods.

Sri Krishna says that everything is His VIBHUTI(GLORY).One can see

everything as GOD in this aspect that HE IS PERVADING &

CONTROLLING EVERYTHING.All the so called gods derive power from

Lord Vishnu(again this is from Gita).So we vaishnavas worship Lord

VISHNU alone who is the supreme reality & HIS DEVOTEES .We have

respect for all other gods as they are His vibhutis.The RELATION

between a PRAPANNA(ONE WHO HAS SURRENDERED TO LORD)& his SWAMI is

similar to a pativrata & her husband.She serves only her husband

as a wife & has only respect for other males.She gets all her

needs fulfilled by her husband alone.Similarly a Prapanna sri

vaishnava worships LORD NARAYANA alone though he shows respect to

others.

dasan

 

On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 Bhaktan wrote :

>Dear Sir,

>

>You raise a point I have heard many times before (although in

>different

>contexts). I had a question then as I do now:

>Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are all are not

>equal"?

>Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord Vinayaka

>before reciting

>either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram?

>

>I would really appreciate any answer you might have or any

>pointers you

>might have that I can follow that might help me understand

>Vaishnavism

>better.

>

>Siva.

>

>

> Vasan Sriranga Chari

>[vasan_chari_hk]

>Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:48 AM

>Nagraj

>Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi'; ;

>ramanuja; bhakti-list; sukumar

>Re: Re: RE: Re: need clarification.

>

>Jai Ramanuja,

>Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures (saatvik)mension

>LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom seekers of

>salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says that those

>worshipping other gods reach them while those worshipping me

>attain me from where there is no return.Though the efforts are

>same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits approach

>other

>gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even ADI

>SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented thus.Hence

>srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only Bhagvan with one

>mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in GITA).This is a

>brief

>answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI SHANKARA'S

>GITA

>COMMENTARY.

>dasan

>9minor)

>, 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote :

> >Dear All

> >

> >Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have asked

>several

> >time

> >these question but none of them have replied.

> >Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say no pl let

> >me

> >know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka.

> >

> >Kindly do replay

> >

> >nagaraj

> >

> > -

> > Vasan Sriranga Chari

> > sukumar

> > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; ;

> >ramanuja ; bhakti-list

> > Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM

> > Re: RE: Re: need clarification.

> >

> >

> >

> > Jai Ramanuja,

> > Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord

>whose

> >face

> > was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA)

> > DASAN

> > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote :

> > >Sri Krishnaya Namah!

> > >

> > >Dear Bhaktas,

> > >

> > >I would appreciate if you could let me know

> > >

> > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva.

> > >

> > >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a

> >delicious

> > >dish called

> > >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord

>has

> >also

> > >been called

> > >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya

>offered

> >to

> > >Lord

> > >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once

> > >consumed by the

> > >Lord.

> > >

> > >Humble Pranams!

> > >

> > >Sukumar

> > >

> > >

> > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!

> > >

> > >

> > > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi]

> > > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM

> > >

> > > Re: need clarification.

> > >

> > >Sri

> > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

> > >

> > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam

> >of

> > > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan?

> > >

> > >Please see:

> >

> >

> >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html

> > >

> > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of

> >Mahavishnu

> > >too?

> > > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam?

> > >

> >

> >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html

> > >

> > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The

>DasA

> > >avatArams

> > >are the most prominent.

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >

> > >Malolan Cadambi

>

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