Guest guest Report post Posted July 16, 2004 Adiyean Kombur Oppiliappan Sannidhi Venkatesa Prasad anantha thendan samarpitha vingyaapanam. I have just come to US and am in Chicago. I have a doubt in Sankalpam done before any ritual. Instead of "Bhaaratha Varshae Bharatha kandae", what we need to specify? Is there any alteration in any mantras related to Sandhya Vandanam, Aavani Avittam? Please guide me in this regard. Dasan, Kombur Oppiliappan Sannidhi Venkatesa Prasad. New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Dear SrI Venkatesa Prasad : There are a few , who modify the Sankalpam to say : America KandE , MerO: uthtarE Paarsve etc. In all my travels around the world , I never changed my sankalpam . I never felt that I have left BhAratha KaNDam or the shade of Meru's southern slope . BhagavAn is Sarvaj~nan . He knows where His children are at anyone time in His vast Universe . He appreciates the thought that His children want to perform Nithya-Naimitthika KarmAs ordained in His SaasthrAs . That bhAvam is more important to Him than any inaccuracies in geo-positions . That is my humble opinion . V.Sadagopan - Venkatesa Prasad Oppiliappan Friday, July 16, 2004 4:41 PM Doubt in Sankalpam Sri Vaishnava Perunthagaiyeer, Adiyean Kombur Oppiliappan Sannidhi Venkatesa Prasad anantha thendan samarpitha vingyaapanam. I have just come to US and am in Chicago. I have a doubt in Sankalpam done before any ritual. Instead of "Bhaaratha Varshae Bharatha kandae", what we need to specify? Is there any alteration in any mantras related to Sandhya Vandanam, Aavani Avittam? Please guide me in this regard. Dasan, Kombur Oppiliappan Sannidhi Venkatesa Prasad. New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Dear SrI Venkatesa Prasad : To the limited knowledge of this writer, the Sandhya is part of the Vedic mandate and hence part of the Santana Dharma per se, which put differently implies "universal" approach. In short, Bharatavarsha is the world/universe. You may be in America or Madipakkam but at one point this entire Bhulokam - including Australia, China and of course America - all were part of the same Santana Dharma. In fact one should consider this world as Bharatvarsham. Moreover,during Sandhya you are primarily making the highest offering of your Prana and waters to SrimanNaarayana inside the sun. The Sun is referred as "mitra" in one of the shlokas. Mitra is a friend. The Sun shines all over, be it America or a corner in Iraq. As our learned friend Shri Sadagopan has rightly put, the "Bhavanam" is critical. Your genes are part of a tradition which has originated and pervaded the Universe. One of the key purposes of the Sandhya sankalpam is for illumination to enable you to see everything, everyone in the same light. And more importantly, what has been ordained by the Shrutis cannot be altered. Two things are to be noted: a. Shrutis have laid down certain words/chantings - which again has been given by our beloved SrimanNaarayana b. Shruti also says that what you have taken in from your Guru initially has to be followed implictily. In fact Bharatavarsha is a beautiful word. Look how with great pains the name has been concieved. Bha is knowledge, Rath is Love, therefore, Love of knowledge. The country or place where people hanker after this supreme love for knowledge about the Lord, where spirituality reigns supreme and where spiritual pursuits is one of the most important preoccupations, that place was called " bharata varsha". Moreover it is a Sanskrit word, so one does not need additional justification for using it. Without wanting to demean the word "America" etc. the word if used in sankalpam may not convey any meaning. You are making a resolve. It should be devoid of meaningless words. Just because a majority of people call the place "America" in English does not mean it is the correct expression. In fact it should be then 'united states of america". Beijing is the Engish version of Peking (of which language one does not know) but if you ask a true Chinese he may say "peiping". To each his own. Who is to say what is right. However, Bharatavarsha IS RIGHT. THERE ARE NO TWO WAYS.YOU GREAT GRANDFATHER SAID DURING SANKALPAM,YOUR GRANDFATHER SAID THE SAME AND YOUR FATHER FOLLOWED SUIT. You have the benefit of 'aptavachakam' . With due respect to your query, if a man is in Inner Mongolia, his sankalpam cannot change, or deep in the Artics. Again as our learned friend Shri Sadagopan has said,the Lord knows it all. In the Vamanaavatara one foot covered the entire earth, including America so to say. Trust your doubt stands clarified. The writer has added something to the best of his knowledge. Errors may be forgiven. Om tat sat tat tvam asi Sadagopan <sgopan@computer Oppiliappan .net> cc: Sgt <saranagathi> Re: Doubt in Sankalpam 07/17/04 05:49 PM Please respond to Oppiliappan Dear SrI Venkatesa Prasad : There are a few , who modify the Sankalpam to say : America KandE , MerO: uthtarE Paarsve etc. In all my travels around the world , I never changed my sankalpam . I never felt that I have left BhAratha KaNDam or the shade of Meru's southern slope . BhagavAn is Sarvaj~nan . He knows where His children are at anyone time in His vast Universe . He appreciates the thought that His children want to perform Nithya-Naimitthika KarmAs ordained in His SaasthrAs . That bhAvam is more important to Him than any inaccuracies in geo-positions . That is my humble opinion . V.Sadagopan - Venkatesa Prasad Oppiliappan Friday, July 16, 2004 4:41 PM Doubt in Sankalpam Sri Vaishnava Perunthagaiyeer, Adiyean Kombur Oppiliappan Sannidhi Venkatesa Prasad anantha thendan samarpitha vingyaapanam. I have just come to US and am in Chicago. I have a doubt in Sankalpam done before any ritual. Instead of "Bhaaratha Varshae Bharatha kandae", what we need to specify? Is there any alteration in any mantras related to Sandhya Vandanam, Aavani Avittam? Please guide me in this regard. Dasan, Kombur Oppiliappan Sannidhi Venkatesa Prasad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Dear ShrI Venkatesa Prasad: I read the replies to your queries from ShrI Sadagopan Sir as well as ShrI Ramachandran Sir. My humble pranAmams to them. Like they both say it is a minor point in the larger scheme of things. Everything in this world is encompassed by our Lord and geo-positions do not matter to Him. However, from a purely technical stand-point I have heard it said that the Bhagavata Purana deals with the geography of the world in a great detail. It divides the world into seven dweepas. For. eg: India is in Jambu dweepa. America in "Krauncha dweepa". It is also said that "SarveshAm api varshAnAm mErO: dakshina sthita:" Therefore, all the continents would be south of mEru. According to this the use of mErO: dakshinE parshvE would be correct. As far as "khanda" is concerned I use "AmericAkya khandE" as advised by one of the visiting swamijis(AdamAr Mutt). Once again these are technical and feel free to decide for yourself what you would prefer to use. Thanks. Vijayaraghavan Chakravarthy Buffalo/NY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
