why manuscripts if there are books

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about Dhumavati . There is another one called Guptasaar tantra which has the

largest material on dhumavati ever known . Take a look at the dhumavati stotra

or kavacha that you chant and look at its colophone you will know what i am

speaking. Take a look at the book Devi Rahasya by Ramchandra Kak and

HaraBhatta Shastri compiled in early 1900 , from the manuscript comming from

the Library of MahaRaja Ram Singh of kashmir to see who were the

DasaMahavidya's . I am not sure , is having bookish knowledge bad ? Were the

books written from manuscripts to give ppl wrong info or guide them . Even

Sankaracharya was a auther and a scholar other than a sadhak . I am not sure

which kind of yantra you work with . Does it contain Astadal , ShoDashadal ,

dvatrinshaldal followed by chatushasthidal followed by bhupur with yoni chakra

as the first and the 2nd avaran . Many ppl worship many kinds of yantra

.. If so, i guess , you will realise that staying within the boundaries of the

books is just limiting your sadhana , because a book with that detail will not

be economic for the publisher to sell , and one has to dive to the manuscript

world for completeness . Although that does not mean one who does not worship

that way is not doing sadhana , he is also doing but the tracks are different.

For example i have not seen any books so far which contains a Nava-yoni-nyasa

and Brihad-yoni-nyas as the Brihad Yoni nyas is itself 80 leaves manuscript and

not economic to be the part of a book , but if one wants to do that nyasa one

has to take a tour to Katmandu and write it in hands . But most books are in

Sanskrit , that limits ordinary Indian from accessing it and many a times

translation into different languages has not been possible because they are big

projects and requires ppl to be employed full time in doing so . For example ,

rudrayamala tantra exists in the market ,even in some states with translations ,

untill 93 chapters / patala . If you grant it as a full book of original

rudrayamala , you commit the biggest mistake because , can you show for example

the trailokyamangal kavacha of ShoDashi there ? . You cant, it comes from a

more larger work , that was existing in a gumpha in Tibet , as seen by Adi

Krishnanada Agambagish on his tour to Tibet , where he comments on his book

Brihat Tantra Saar that , rudrayamal is the lagest written grantha on this

planet consisting of 4000 chapters . But they have now been scattered through

out some parts lost . For pictures comming from analogue films you have to

wait to be convinced . I will scan and show you some pages of other tantra

too in digital version . Just hang on for few days as

it takes time to watch it in a microfilm viewer and zoom appropriately to get

the right image. Regards Bhairav Bhai

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flavor of palm - leaf manuscripts . Have a look at

http://www.franklin.library.upenn.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?ti=101,0&Search_Arg=Tantra&Search_Code=TALL&PID=18374&CNT=50&SEQ=20060320182150&SID=1

to convince yourself . That the manuscripts ( punthi ) are palm leaf can be

understood by the holes inside them used to tie leaves . Take a look at

http://library.wellcome.ac.uk/sanskrit/sanskrit_kp.asp to see that they do not

come from books but do come from manuscripts , though the collection here is

not as good as Royal Asiatic Society . For Royal Asiatic Society

Catalouge you have to become a member yourself . Unless some people have worked

to read them you would not have seen them in books . Catalouge from Nepal is

extremely huge and cannot be uploaded it comes as a seperate books .

Kankalmalini tantra is lost . There are only around 400 -500 verses of

Kankalmalini tantra existing . But the original tantra is of 50,000 verse which

can be noted from the colophone or pushpikaa of the first patala/ chapter saying

iti kankaalmaalini tantre sArdhalaksha tantra granthe ........ partham patal ,

sardhalaksha = sa ardha laksha = 50,000 . The original Dasamahavidya tantra

appeared in 4 th century AD . If you can show some one that that you have at

least 5 chapters of the manuscript , you will be rewarded . But there have been

many books written latter by the same name , if you want one in English is by

Sarbeshwar Satpathy , the one in

Sanskrit is a recent compilation by collecting data's from various tantra

manuscripts . Out of the 64 aagam shastra , its name does not appear as can

be checked from NityaShoDashikaarnava , proving that book has disapperred much

before NityaShoDoshikaarnav a encyclopedia about srividya was written. After

the Kubjika tradition in tantra had ended , comes Todal Tantra and its a

relatively short book or manuscript in which the names of dasamahaviddya's

appeared for the first time with Dhumavati included . The tantras latter were

chamunda and mundamala tantra that said more about Dhumavati . There is another

one called Guptasaar tantra which has the largest material on dhumavati ever

known . Take a look at the dhumavati stotra or kavacha that you chant and look

at its colophone you will know what i am speaking. Take a look at the book

Devi Rahasya by Ramchandra

Kak and HaraBhatta Shastri compiled in early 1900 , from the manuscript comming

from the Library of MahaRaja Ram Singh of kashmir to see who were the

DasaMahavidya's . I am not sure , is having bookish knowledge bad ? Were the

books written from manuscripts to give ppl wrong info or guide them . Even

Sankaracharya was a auther and a scholar other than a sadhak . I am not sure

which kind of yantra you work with . Does it contain Astadal , ShoDashadal ,

dvatrinshaldal followed by chatushasthidal followed by bhupur with yoni chakra

as the first and the 2nd avaran . Many ppl worship many kinds of yantra . If

so, i guess , you will realise that staying within the boundaries of the books

is just limiting your sadhana , because a book with that detail will not be

economic for the publisher to sell , and one has to dive to the manuscript

world for completeness . Although that does not mean one who does not worship

that way

is not doing sadhana , he is also doing but the tracks are different. For

example i have not seen any books so far which contains a Nava-yoni-nyasa and

Brihad-yoni-nyas as the Brihad Yoni nyas is itself 80 leaves manuscript and not

economic to be the part of a book , but if one wants to do that nyasa one has to

take a tour to Katmandu and write it in hands . But most books are in Sanskrit

, that limits ordinary Indian from accessing it and many a times translation

into different languages has not been possible because they are big projects

and requires ppl to be employed full time in doing so . For example ,

rudrayamala tantra exists in the market ,even in some states with translations

, untill 93 chapters / patala . If you grant it as a full book of original

rudrayamala , you commit the biggest mistake because , can you show for example

the trailokyamangal kavacha of ShoDashi there ? . You

cant, it comes from a more larger work , that was existing in a gumpha in Tibet

, as seen by Adi Krishnanada Agambagish on his tour to Tibet , where he

comments on his book Brihat Tantra Saar that , rudrayamal is the lagest written

grantha on this planet consisting of 4000 chapters . But they have now been

scattered through out some parts lost . For pictures comming from analogue

films you have to wait to be convinced . I will scan and show you some pages

of other tantra too in digital version . Just hang on for few days as it

takes time to watch it in a microfilm viewer and zoom appropriately to get the

right image. Regards Bhairav Bhai MailUse

Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

Jiyo cricket on India cricket

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about Dhumavati . There is another one called Guptasaar tantra which has the

largest material on dhumavati ever known . Take a look at the dhumavati stotra

or kavacha that you chant and look at its colophone you will know what i am

speaking. Take a look at the book Devi Rahasya by Ramchandra Kak and

HaraBhatta Shastri compiled in early 1900 , from the manuscript comming from

the Library of MahaRaja Ram Singh of kashmir to see who were the

DasaMahavidya's . I am not sure , is having bookish knowledge bad ? Were the

books written from manuscripts to give ppl wrong info or guide them . Even

Sankaracharya was a auther and a scholar other than a sadhak . I am not sure

which kind of yantra you work with . Does it contain Astadal , ShoDashadal ,

dvatrinshaldal followed by chatushasthidal followed by bhupur with yoni chakra

as the first and the 2nd avaran . Many ppl worship many kinds of yantra

.. If so, i guess , you will realise that staying within the boundaries of the

books is just limiting your sadhana , because a book with that detail will not

be economic for the publisher to sell , and one has to dive to the manuscript

world for completeness . Although that does not mean one who does not worship

that way is not doing sadhana , he is also doing but the tracks are different.

For example i have not seen any books so far which contains a Nava-yoni-nyasa

and Brihad-yoni-nyas as the Brihad Yoni nyas is itself 80 leaves manuscript and

not economic to be the part of a book , but if one wants to do that nyasa one

has to take a tour to Katmandu and write it in hands . But most books are in

Sanskrit , that limits ordinary Indian from accessing it and many a times

translation into different languages has not been possible because they are big

projects and requires ppl to be employed full time in doing so . For example ,

rudrayamala tantra exists in the market ,even in some states with translations ,

untill 93 chapters / patala . If you grant it as a full book of original

rudrayamala , you commit the biggest mistake because , can you show for example

the trailokyamangal kavacha of ShoDashi there ? . You cant, it comes from a

more larger work , that was existing in a gumpha in Tibet , as seen by Adi

Krishnanada Agambagish on his tour to Tibet , where he comments on his book

Brihat Tantra Saar that , rudrayamal is the lagest written grantha on this

planet consisting of 4000 chapters . But they have now been scattered through

out some parts lost . For pictures comming from analogue films you have to

wait to be convinced . I will scan and show you some pages of other tantra

too in digital version . Just hang on for few days as

it takes time to watch it in a microfilm viewer and zoom appropriately to get

the right image. Regards Bhairav Bhai MailUse Photomail to share

photos without annoying attachments. Jiyo cricket on India

cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time.

Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice.

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i suggest to stop this debate now....

everyone has its own individual experience with books,

manuscripts and their gurus.....

 

may be a clash with other's,,,but no one is down and

no one is up,,,

 

the truth of life,,,,when the game is over, both king

and pawn goes in the same box.

 

thanks

satyendra

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

not . as u ask references of books so i told u that where u can get those texts

, becoz trijata ji has big library of almost all trantras texts , many of those

are not published & 1000's of tantra texts , each contain huge no. of pages.

better u can contect gurudev for more information thanking u Gaurav

ShrimaliJammer wow <jammer_it2000 > wrote: Dear Gaurav This is

in response to your email in asking me to prove that i have seen or read or

possesed manuscripts which you call as ancient books . The following

attached files gives a flavor of palm - leaf manuscripts . Have a look at

http://www.franklin.library.upenn.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?ti=101,0&Search_Arg=Tantra&Search_Code=TALL&PID=18374&CNT=50&SEQ=20060320182150&SID=1

to convince yourself . That the manuscripts ( punthi ) are palm leaf can be

understood by the holes inside them used to tie leaves . Take a look at

http://library.wellcome.ac.uk/sanskrit/sanskrit_kp.asp to see that they do not

come from books but do come from manuscripts , though the collection here is

not as good as Royal Asiatic Society . For Royal Asiatic Society Catalouge

you have to become a member yourself . Unless some people have worked to read

them

you would not have seen them in books . Catalouge from Nepal is extremely huge

and cannot be uploaded it comes as a seperate books . Kankalmalini tantra is

lost . There are only around 400 -500 verses of Kankalmalini tantra existing .

But the original tantra is of 50,000 verse which can be noted from the

colophone or pushpikaa of the first patala/ chapter saying iti kankaalmaalini

tantre sArdhalaksha tantra granthe ........ partham patal , sardhalaksha = sa

ardha laksha = 50,000 . The original Dasamahavidya tantra appeared in 4 th

century AD . If you can show some one that that you have at least 5 chapters of

the manuscript , you will be rewarded . But there have been many books written

latter by the same name , if you want one in English is by Sarbeshwar Satpathy

, the one in Sanskrit is a recent compilation by collecting data's from various

tantra manuscripts .

Out of the 64 aagam shastra , its name does not appear as can be checked from

NityaShoDashikaarnava , proving that book has disapperred much before

NityaShoDoshikaarnav a encyclopedia about srividya was written. After the

Kubjika tradition in tantra had ended , comes Todal Tantra and its a relatively

short book or manuscript in which the names of dasamahaviddya's appeared for the

first time with Dhumavati included . The tantras latter were chamunda and

mundamala tantra that said more about Dhumavati . There is another one called

Guptasaar tantra which has the largest material on dhumavati ever known . Take

a look at the dhumavati stotra or kavacha that you chant and look at its

colophone you will know what i am speaking. Take a look at the book Devi

Rahasya by Ramchandra Kak and HaraBhatta Shastri compiled in early 1900 , from

the manuscript comming from the Library

of MahaRaja Ram Singh of kashmir to see who were the DasaMahavidya's . I am

not sure , is having bookish knowledge bad ? Were the books written from

manuscripts to give ppl wrong info or guide them . Even Sankaracharya was a

auther and a scholar other than a sadhak . I am not sure which kind of yantra

you work with . Does it contain Astadal , ShoDashadal , dvatrinshaldal followed

by chatushasthidal followed by bhupur with yoni chakra as the first and the 2nd

avaran . Many ppl worship many kinds of yantra . If so, i guess , you will

realise that staying within the boundaries of the books is just limiting your

sadhana , because a book with that detail will not be economic for the

publisher to sell , and one has to dive to the manuscript world for

completeness . Although that does not mean one who does not worship that way is

not doing sadhana , he is also doing but the tracks are different. For example

i have not seen any books so far which contains a Nava-yoni-nyasa and

Brihad-yoni-nyas as the Brihad Yoni nyas is itself 80 leaves manuscript and not

economic to be the part of a book , but if one wants to do that nyasa one has to

take a tour to Katmandu and write it in hands . But most books are in Sanskrit

, that limits ordinary Indian from accessing it and many a times translation

into different languages has not been possible because they are big projects

and requires ppl to be employed full time in doing so . For example ,

rudrayamala tantra exists in the market ,even in some states with translations

, untill 93 chapters / patala . If you grant it as a full book of original

rudrayamala , you commit the biggest mistake because , can you show for example

the trailokyamangal kavacha of ShoDashi there ? . You cant, it comes from a

more larger work , that was existing in a gumpha in Tibet , as seen

by Adi Krishnanada Agambagish on his tour to Tibet , where he comments on his

book Brihat Tantra Saar that , rudrayamal is the lagest written grantha on this

planet consisting of 4000 chapters . But they have now been scattered through

out some parts lost . For pictures comming from analogue films you have to

wait to be convinced . I will scan and show you some pages of other tantra

too in digital version . Just hang on for few days as it takes time to watch

it in a microfilm viewer and zoom appropriately to get the right image.

Regards Bhairav Bhai MailUse Photomail to share photos without

annoying attachments. Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger

Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Blab-away for as little

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Dear Satyendra Sir

 

You must have realized the debate as you call have led everybody

know many things . The debate was not to prove that one is a king

and one a fakir , if you took it that way you are wrong . Every body

knows we will box to the same box - even a muslim as well as a

street dog.

Tantra is a "guru-gamya" subject so if one says that something is

correct and puts in parenthesis as per words of gurudev , the

problem is solved , but that was not the case .

The difference in opinion is not ours but some one who were more

knowledeable so they will be reflected in tantra's . So knowing what

they thougt helps rather than pulling legs . That was the intention

at least from my part - check the previous emails . Just check where

the protocol broke down . I apologize .

 

Bye the way , did you raise the question regarding kaal-sharpa dasha

and bachhan family , you never replied , guess you were busy .

 

Thank you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, satyendra k gupta

<rsmultimediauk wrote:

>

> i suggest to stop this debate now....

> everyone has its own individual experience with books,

> manuscripts and their gurus.....

>

> may be a clash with other's,,,but no one is down and

> no one is up,,,

>

> the truth of life,,,,when the game is over, both king

> and pawn goes in the same box.

>

> thanks

> satyendra

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jai Gurudev!

 

Rightly said, debate is not for a sadhak at this

juncture. Remember Jagadguru Shankracharya also

realized much later in life that there is nothing in

debates the real aim to be sought is in sadhna.

 

With due respect to learned gurubhais, we would be

much benefitted by your wisdom when you come to our

plane and write in simple lingo that is understandable

by even the newest of gurubhai and gurubehan in our

parivwar.

 

There are scores of us who really do not understand

what you talk about. It is similar to an engineering

graduate talking in front of some middle school guys.

 

So once again it is my humble request to not let pride

come in way of info/knowledge.

 

We are all desciples of the Greatest Guru and what

humilty he has is known to everyone.

 

Recently i was reading the book called "Tantrik

Siddhiyan" and there in one of the letters written to

Him by one of our Gurubhai, Shri Shivanand

Brahamchari" is an eye opener for all, and this letter

by him to Gurudev is must readable for all those who

want to step or attempt to step into Sadhna world.

 

For gurubhai and gurubehan who have not had a chance

to read it, I will take the opportunity in this forum

and bring you a gist of his letter.

 

Shivanand Brahamchari was a deciple of a Yakshini who

nurtured him as his own son and taught him very rare

things from the world of tantra but one day all of a

sudden she said that she was wanted elsewhere very

urgently and she would need to leave that physical

form of hers. Shivanand Brahamchari felt just like

thrown from the sky to the hard soil. He did not know

what to do and what not to. Before leaving Yakshini

maa told him that there is only one person in this

world who could teach him ahead of what he had learnt

and that is Gurudev Shrimaliji.

 

Shivanand came to Him and took diksha and attained

great siddhis but all this led him being very haughty,

so much so that he had regular diagreements, fights

with his gurubhais, which Gurudev kept ignoring for

some time but Shivanand had plans to become a Guru

himself and so one day he crossed all bounds and

behaved in a manner not at all meant for a deciple and

said something to Gurudev, which no deciple would

dream even.

 

Gurudev threw him out of the pariwar fold and told him

that within 6 months he would lose all his siddhis and

powers.

 

Shivanand still was not in his senses and thought that

the siddhis given to him by his Yakshini maa would

remain even if given by Gurudev were to go and he

thought he had enough of those siddhis to move the

world to his feet.

 

Slowly time passed within six months he was back to

zero. All the siddhis given by Gurudev and Yakshini

maa vanished. He became an ordinary man. Then he

realized that all this was a Guruprasad and how

thickheaded he had been.

 

He knew gurudev by name of Shirmali ji. For 15 years

he searched for gurudev everywhere he thought possibly

He could be, Nepal, Gorakpur, and whole of Himalays ,

asked all hermits but could not find Him. Everywhere

he went to seek sadhna again from a sadhu or learned

men they all shunted him out. Not even a single

person was ready to embrace him.

 

One day he read in a newspaper about Gurudev Nikhil

and that He is one and the same as Shirmaliji and thus

he wrote a letter to ask for forgivenss, not daring to

go in front of Him.

 

It is a eye opener to all of us who think by attaining

one or two siddhis we have got the world.

 

I humbly again state this is not a pointer to any

gurubhai but just I have taken the liberty to bring

this incident to light for all memebers of our pariwar

who have not read it and also to remember for all of

us that what we share here is just piece of

information, which presumably facilitates our other

brothers and sisters who have not had the opportunity

to go over all tantra texts or be near Gurudev

physically and listen from His Holiness the mantra

and ways to perform.

 

Therefore to debate over our knowldege and extent of

it is not justified in any way. We are looking at

what we have, but for once just look what we have in

comparsion to the entire tantra. Tantra is bigger

than all five oceans combined and what we have is not

even a drop.

 

Humbly and with all humility, I would request my

brothers and sisters not to get into debates over who

has more info and who does not.

 

Gurudev Ki Kripa Aparampar!!

 

Jai Gurudev

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guru Ki Kripa Aparmpar.

 

--- satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk

wrote:

 

> i suggest to stop this debate now....

> everyone has its own individual experience with

> books,

> manuscripts and their gurus.....

>

> may be a clash with other's,,,but no one is down and

> no one is up,,,

>

> the truth of life,,,,when the game is over, both

> king

> and pawn goes in the same box.

>

> thanks

> satyendra

>

>

>

> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ajay, do you live in Bandra? I could tell you about one house just

opposite your house that's haunted. Contact me.

 

 

 

 

, ajay waghmare <aj_wagh wrote:

>

> JAI GURUDEV

> ABOUT THE HAUNTED PLACES IN INDIA

> I WANT ANY PICTURES/PHOTOS & RELATED INFORMATION

>

>

> AJAY

> MUMBAI

>

> Jammer wow <jammer_it2000 wrote:

> There are 1 lakh 86 thousand books including manuscripts in

National Archives Kathmandu Nepal .

>

> gaurav shrimali <gaurav_nikhil26 wrote: Jai guudev,

>

> I dont want to prove to u that u have read or not . as u ask

references of books so i told u that where u can get those texts ,

becoz trijata ji has big library of almost all trantras texts , many

of those are not published & 1000's of tantra texts , each contain

huge no. of pages.

>

> better u can contect gurudev for more information

>

> thanking u

> Gaurav Shrimali

>

> Jammer wow <jammer_it2000 wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav

>

> This is in response to your email in asking me to prove that i

have seen or read or possesed manuscripts which you call as ancient

books .

>

> The following attached files gives a flavor of palm - leaf

manuscripts .

>

> Have a look at http://www.franklin.library.upenn.edu/cgi-

bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?

ti=101,0&Search_Arg=Tantra&Search_Code=TALL&PID=18374&CNT=50&SEQ=2006

0320182150&SID=1

> to convince yourself .

>

> That the manuscripts ( punthi ) are palm leaf can be understood

by the holes inside them used to tie leaves .

>

> Take a look at

http://library.wellcome.ac.uk/sanskrit/sanskrit_kp.asp to see that

they do not come from books but do come from manuscripts , though

the collection here is not as good as Royal Asiatic Society .

>

> For Royal Asiatic Society Catalouge you have to become a member

yourself . Unless some people have worked to read them you would not

have seen them in books .

>

> Catalouge from Nepal is extremely huge and cannot be uploaded it

comes as a seperate books .

>

> Kankalmalini tantra is lost . There are only around 400 -500

verses of Kankalmalini tantra existing . But the original tantra is

of 50,000 verse which can be noted from the colophone or pushpikaa

of the first patala/ chapter saying

> iti kankaalmaalini tantre sArdhalaksha tantra granthe ........

partham patal , sardhalaksha = sa ardha laksha = 50,000 .

>

> The original Dasamahavidya tantra appeared in 4 th century AD .

If you can show some one that that you have at least 5 chapters of

the manuscript , you will be rewarded . But there have been many

books written latter by the same name , if you want one in English

is by Sarbeshwar Satpathy , the one in Sanskrit is a recent

compilation by collecting data's from various tantra manuscripts .

>

> Out of the 64 aagam shastra , its name does not appear as can be

checked from NityaShoDashikaarnava , proving that book has

disapperred much before NityaShoDoshikaarnav a encyclopedia about

srividya was written.

>

> After the Kubjika tradition in tantra had ended , comes Todal

Tantra and its a relatively short book or manuscript in which the

names of dasamahaviddya's appeared for the first time with Dhumavati

included .

>

> The tantras latter were chamunda and mundamala tantra that said

more about Dhumavati . There is another one called Guptasaar tantra

which has the largest material on dhumavati ever known . Take a look

at the dhumavati stotra or kavacha that you chant and look at its

colophone you will know what i am speaking.

>

> Take a look at the book Devi Rahasya by Ramchandra Kak and

HaraBhatta Shastri compiled in early 1900 , from the manuscript

comming from the Library of MahaRaja Ram Singh of kashmir to see who

were the DasaMahavidya's .

>

> I am not sure , is having bookish knowledge bad ? Were the books

written from manuscripts to give ppl wrong info or guide them . Even

Sankaracharya was a auther and a scholar other than a sadhak .

>

> I am not sure which kind of yantra you work with . Does it

contain Astadal , ShoDashadal , dvatrinshaldal followed by

chatushasthidal followed by bhupur with yoni chakra as the first and

the 2nd avaran . Many ppl worship many kinds of yantra . If so, i

guess , you will realise that staying within the boundaries of the

books is just limiting your sadhana , because a book with that

detail will not be economic for the publisher to sell , and one has

to dive to the manuscript world for completeness . Although that

does not mean one who does not worship that way is not doing

sadhana , he is also doing but the tracks are different.

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> For example i have not seen any books so far which contains a

Nava-yoni-nyasa and Brihad-yoni-nyas as the Brihad Yoni nyas is

itself 80 leaves manuscript and not economic to be the part of a

book , but if one wants to do that nyasa one has to take a tour to

Katmandu and write it in hands .

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> But most books are in Sanskrit , that limits ordinary Indian

from accessing it and many a times translation into different

languages has not been possible because they are big projects and

requires ppl to be employed full time in doing so .

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> For example , rudrayamala tantra exists in the market ,even in

some states with translations , untill 93 chapters / patala . If you

grant it as a full book of original rudrayamala , you commit the

biggest mistake because , can you show for example the

trailokyamangal kavacha of ShoDashi there ? . You cant, it comes

from a more larger work , that was existing in a gumpha in Tibet ,

as seen by Adi Krishnanada Agambagish on his tour to Tibet , where

he comments on his book Brihat Tantra Saar that , rudrayamal is the

lagest written grantha on this planet consisting of 4000 chapters .

But they have now been scattered through out some parts lost .

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> For pictures comming from analogue films you have to wait to be

convinced .

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> I will scan and show you some pages of other tantra too in

digital version .

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> Just hang on for few days as it takes time to watch it in a

microfilm viewer and zoom appropriately to get the right image.

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