Guest guest Report post Posted August 16, 2005 CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 9, 2005 I suggest before writing such kind mails, please go through book. "Century Gothic"">LEFT HAND SIDE OF GOD – AGHORA "Century Gothic"">KUNDALINI TANTRA "Century Gothic"">THE LAW OF THE KARMA. color:blue"> color:blue">Author: Robert E Svoboda & Vimalananda color:blue"> color:blue">Although author is American, he know very well MARATHI as he studied in pune & he also has done smashan sadhana along with his Indian Guru Swami Vimalananda. These books will reveal you the power of TANTRA & MANTRA. After reading these books I am sure all your doubts will be cleared. On amazon.com also you can find review of these books. color:blue"> color:blue">Even if you are able to read 50 pages of 1st book, you have achieved something gr8. This book is really very horrible. www.drsvoboda.com font-family:"Century Gothic";color:blue"> Jai Gurudev Vikram font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of anill shaw Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:49 PM B E L I E F 12.0pt"> JOY GURUDEV ! 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">IF YES I AM READY. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? 12.0pt"> BIG QUESTION FOREVER? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 9, 2005 DO U BELIEVE IN GOD OR NOT??? (we'll talk of mantra-tantra later)anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 9, 2005 why would anyone spend hard earned power to show god to you? think about that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Boy this is going to be fun.. Long time since anyone on this list has asked these kind of questions.... and I am trying to stop myself not to answer it.. but what the heck I will drop in one line.. just for the sake of it.. and off course will apologies for what ever I am about to say.. before I say it.. "Give me one good reason why I should waste my time and energy in showing you that. I dont want to/ have to prove anything to anyone. You are the one who is asking for proof. Loose some sleep and do it yourself, and find out if its "'pakhand" or not. If you think it is pakhand then be happy with it. The entire idea you took the time and liberty to come to this mailing list and put this email in, means that either A) you dont believe in all this stuff but are doubting yourself now, or B) You just like to have fun by picking on other peaceful people." And now about the proof part, Science has not yet been able to isolate one of the parts of the body called "brain" All that can figured out 2 different sides to it called as "grey and white matter". Theories of Einstine are still unsolved, even he gave up after a certain point saying that normal human brain cant go after a certain point..., there is a place near san jose called mystery point where law of gravity dosent work (ya no one has an answer to it, its still open), and here you come trying to challange these occult sciences of India, which are far more ahead / advanced / tough then the problems I have described above. So I suggest you as this question to yourself first "Are you worth, understanding these occult indian sciences...?" All the answeres are inside you. BTW its considered very rude to type in all CAPS, its like shoulting and yelling.. please dont do that... Be respectful to other, if not for any other reason, then just because they are humans. Again I am sorry if I have hurt anyone... didnt mean to do it.. just sometimes its hard for me to control when these kind of questions arise... Thanks Dp On 8/16/05, anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Jay Gurudev Different religions beliefs Visit your group "" on the web. -- Thanks/dev/dp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Hi Anil, Did you ask your science teacher in class 9th to show you the proof that an electron exists, when she/he was teaching the basic Bohr model? Did you ask the maths teacher in class 6th if the formulae for calculating the volume were correct ? You BELIEVED in it then .. and now that you have grown up in science, you can yourself discern the scientific truth from scientific hoax. Ofcourse now you also know that no one can SEE electrons ... but you KNOW (actually you believe) that electrons better exist. Suppose you asked your teacher to prove to you that the formulae were correct by actual verification, do you think she would go through the pains of doing it ? No, She would just ignore you because its your loss if you do not want to BELIEVE in the formulae. You would fail for all she cares. Similarily, in the world of meditation/ sadhna/ tantra etc. , there are very few people (but ofcourse there are) who would go through the pains of actually showing you some "supernatural" phenomenon just to prove it to you. If you dont want to believe it .. its YOUR LOSS. There is an alternative however ... do what you did in your school years. You BELIEVED in the science you were taught in class without a question. All you cared was to somehow pass the exams just coz you were SUPPOSED to do so. Now that you have grown in science, you not only have been able to come across phenomenon supporting your scientific belief, you now have answers to most of the doubts you could have had in school years. Answers .. you would not have understood in class 6th for sure ! Similarily .. unless you find someone very compassionate, who actually goes through all the pain of showing you something supernatural just because you are READY . .... I suggest that if you really want to grow up in this sciene, start with a blind faith and work on it .. do what should be done and if you work hard, you would see the similar results, many of us have found. Unfortunately everythiing on this path has to be DONE by you yourself before you see the results. But I can assure you that once you start walking on the path .. you would see how every piece falls in place. Eventually you would find what you are looking for. Dont ask sadhaks to reveal their supernatural experiences... it just wont help. Honestly ... would you believe if someone writes to you in the email that he can fly ??? You have to work hard on this path yourself to get the results you dont even know . All the best. Shobhit , anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw> wrote: > JOY GURUDEV ! > > > CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! > > IF YES I AM READY. > > CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? > > BIG QUESTION FOREVER? > > BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. > > > > > > > > Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. > http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 11, 2005 Anill, A good Shadak will never demonstrate his powers to prove to anyone , “yes” there is something far beyond one can contemplate. This not a show where an audience comes and watches the performance. Tell me why should they prove it you? Whether you believe in God or in Tantra it makes no difference to Shadhaks. But if you approached with respect rather than challenge then I am sure some Sadhak would have enlightened you. anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 12, 2005 I had just kept your mail in abeyance thinking that I'll reply at leisure. But it seems that you have got too many replies...so I shall at this point of time restrain myself. Maybe sometimes we could catch up with each other in Chat!!! K.I.T. Regards & Best Wishes, Anupamanill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Thanks for reply. I have never realise or seen the GOD and his power. I have read or heard from other or books about miracle and power of Mantra & tantra , GOD but never realised. I have realised fragrance of Flower, and blow of wind but not of so called God and his power. Please note that I have gone through deeply about so many books written by GURUDEV NIKHIL JI. For Example ..... "Amrit Bunda" Can you please let me realise the power of Tantra as realised by Mr. POLAR & Mrs. Amies through GURUDEV. I will be satisfy even for small sidhhi like" KARNA PISHACHINI" CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT MY PAST AS A PROOF OF POWER OF TANTRA ????? IF U CAN PLEASE REPLY OTHERWISE DONT ...... THANKING YOU JOY GURUDEVAnupam Shil <anupamshil > wrote: WHY DO YOU ASK THIS??? DO U BELIEVE IN GOD OR NOT??? (we'll talk of mantra-tantra later)anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 13, 2005 dear Anil, Mr shobit verma , gave the most compelling answer to ur questions. i would like to add some of my exp in it. during the starting phases of journey towards the greater truth . one's mind is filled with such questions and doubts. i am sure each one of us might have experienced it. It is quite difficult to believe what we are listing. and ever more difficult to understand what is all this thing abt. Generally, people are arrogant , full of pride and very narrow-minded, that they cannot open their mind to such greater truth. they make things impossible for them to believe or feel presence of this truth by shunting their minds and heart . Let me ask u , why do people say there is god and have faith in him . B'cos they believe in him. Even though they have never seen him. Keep ur heart and mind open to this new field of tantra and mantra . read guruji's pravachans ,try to get more info on guruji, get in touch with gurubhai's near u and if possible try and visit trimurti gurudev . ur idea abt tantra and mantra will get more and more clear. Beware of the fake people , as in any field tantra and mantra also has them. Keep faith and listen to ur heart . Don't be a horse, who has blinds on his eyes, who can see straight and just walks on that way. No one is going to perform any miracle to prove u , u will realize the miracle ur self . Ignore this and u will live a superficial life never knowing the real knowledge , the truth abt this universe ,over all the greater truth of life. U know what the best part of this, is u will never realize that , u had a chance to know all this and u have missed it . Regards, Rahul pandey , "Shobhit Verma" <shobhitverma> wrote: > Hi Anil, > > Did you ask your science teacher in class 9th to show you the proof > that an electron exists, when she/he was teaching the basic Bohr > model? > > Did you ask the maths teacher in class 6th if the formulae for > calculating the volume were correct ? > > You BELIEVED in it then .. and now that you have grown up in science, > you can yourself discern the scientific truth from scientific hoax. > Ofcourse now you also know that no one can SEE electrons ... but you > KNOW (actually you believe) that electrons better exist. > > Suppose you asked your teacher to prove to you that the formulae were > correct by actual verification, do you think she would go through the > pains of doing it ? > No, She would just ignore you because its your loss if you do not want > to BELIEVE in the formulae. You would fail for all she cares. > > Similarily, in the world of meditation/ sadhna/ tantra etc. , there > are very few people (but ofcourse there are) who would go through the > pains of actually showing you some "supernatural" phenomenon just to > prove it to you. If you dont want to believe it .. its YOUR LOSS. > > There is an alternative however ... do what you did in your school > years. You BELIEVED in the science you were taught in class without a > question. All you cared was to somehow pass the exams just coz you > were SUPPOSED to do so. Now that you have grown in science, you not > only have been able to come across phenomenon supporting your > scientific belief, you now have answers to most of the doubts you > could have had in school years. Answers .. you would not have > understood in class 6th for sure ! > > Similarily .. unless you find someone very compassionate, who actually > goes through all the pain of showing you something supernatural just > because you are READY . .... > I suggest that if you really want to grow up in this sciene, start > with a blind faith and work on it .. do what should be done and if you > work hard, you would see the similar results, many of us have found. > > Unfortunately everythiing on this path has to be DONE by you yourself > before you see the results. But I can assure you that once you start > walking on the path .. you would see how every piece falls in place. > Eventually you would find what you are looking for. > > Dont ask sadhaks to reveal their supernatural experiences... it just > wont help. > Honestly ... would you believe if someone writes to you in the email > that he can fly ??? > You have to work hard on this path yourself to get the results you > dont even know . > > All the best. > Shobhit > > , anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw> > wrote: > > JOY GURUDEV ! > > > > > > CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! > YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME > PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! > > > > IF YES I AM READY. > > > > CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? > > > > BIG QUESTION FOREVER? > > > > BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests > and lots more. > > http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 13, 2005 You may not believe in God but you must be very much sure about the certainty of death. You may not believe in blessings of Guru but you surely would have experienced pain and misery and they will come again and again till you learn the lesson they want to teach you or for that any human being. You may not had the glimpse of the power of tantra, but you must have experienced the wretched state of a powerless creature who wonders if he is a human being. Tantra text say that anyone who insults Tantra dies the painful death of a powerless creature. This statement is as sure as death. ou are open to test it, infact you have started your journey in that direction only. You may not believe in the Love of Gurudev but you will surely come across cheating,backstabbing,unfaithfull behaviour of your so called near and dear ones. You may spend your whole life waiting to move up the ladder, away from fear of death and feeling of insecurity. No one will come to help you. It is only you who have to make the first move to realise the highest element of this universe called "Guru". Without Guru nothing works, what to talk about Tantra,Mantra & Yantra. Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 13, 2005 There comes another one...Boy this is going to be fun.. Long time since anyone on this list has asked these kind of questions.... and I am trying to stop myself not to answer it.. but what the heck I will drop in one line.. just for the sake of it.. and off course will apologies for what ever I am about to say.. before I say it.."Give me one good reason why I should waste my time and energy in showing you that. I dont want to/ have to prove anything to anyone. You are the one who is asking for proof. Loose some sleep and do it yourself, and find out if its "'pakhand" or not. If you think it is pakhand then be happy with it. The entire idea you took the time and liberty to come to this mailing list and put this email in, means that either A) you dont believe in all this stuff but are doubting yourself now, or B) You just like to have fun by picking on other peaceful people."And now about the proof part, Science has not yet been able to isolate one of the parts of the body called "brain" All that can figured out 2 different sides to it called as "grey and white matter". Theories of Einstine are still unsolved, even he gave up after a certain point saying that normal human brain cant go after a certain point..., there is a place near san jose called mystery point where law of gravity dosent work (ya no one has an answer to it, its still open), and here you come trying to challange these occult sciences of India, which are far more ahead / advanced / tough then the problems I have described above.So I suggest you as this question to yourself first "Are you worth, understanding these occult indian sciences...?" All the answeres are inside you.BTW its considered very rude to type in all CAPS, its like shoulting and yelling.. please dont do that... Be respectful to other, if not for any other reason, then just because they are humans.Again I am sorry if I have hurt anyone... didnt mean to do it.. just sometimes its hard for me to control when these kind of questions arise...ThanksDp On 8/16/05, anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Jay Gurudev Different religions beliefs Visit your group "" on the web. -- Thanks/dev/dp Find your next car at Canada Autos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 14, 2005 In my opinion your question is not wrong. But have you asked your self what type of god you want to see? What is your picture of god ? First you ask yourself that.Then you will get the answer very soon through poojya gurudev.This you can believe. Regards Srilakshmi.R India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 15, 2005 I have been just observing the response you were getting. I dont know what is your real intention of sending a mail to this group. Stay out, if you dont believe without disturbing the others. Like you write may gurudev bring JOY to your disturb mind. (JOY GURUDEV) JAI GURUDEVuj9vy uj9vy <uj9vy1 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Anill, A good Shadak will never demonstrate his powers to prove to anyone , “yes” there is something far beyond one can contemplate. This not a show where an audience comes and watches the performance. Tell me why should they prove it you? Whether you believe in God or in Tantra it makes no difference to Shadhaks. But if you approached with respect rather than challenge then I am sure some Sadhak would have enlightened you. anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 17, 2005 First the thing, that is dignity of sadhak that they will never show what they are and how much they able to do. and whenever question of manifestation of divinity I ask to you " HAVE YOU POWER TO MANIFEST THEM ?" and "WHAT IS GUARRENTY AFTER MANIFEST U BECOME ALIVE?" many sadhaks of this group are not fool that they prepare them from foundation & gradually increase there power. " WE CAN PROVE ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE THE PRESENCE OF GOD ,WE ARE ABLE TO DO BUT R U ELIGIBLE FOR THAT? " have u power to digest the divine power becoz the ultimate climex of power is form of divine person. have u power to bear any tanra ? have u power to utter the proper mantra. this is only grace of gurudev that he provide simple ways of sadhana otherwise even in the group nobody can able to perform single sadhana. so we always remine and connect and contain guru? tantra is very vast, guru is very massive, mantras are so big , and god is so energetic. even you are not able to face the sign of god , not even the sun ? not even the view the sun more then for 10 mins. at its boom time then how u consider that u can view god who is koti surya samam syaat. first get the energy then I will talk to u. thanking u Gaurav Shrimali anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 19, 2005 Jai Gurudev! Guru Ki Kripa Aparampar!! Hello Brothers and Sisters! In my opinion, brothers, I feel everyone is over reacting on Mr. Anil Shaw's question if anyone has manifested the Lord and would make him do so. Once again to all my brothers....pls don't over react to questions hit directly...but surely we can help him find out the truth. Do you know, this question is nothing. When I was not a deciple of Gurudev I used to hit questions 100 times as aggresive as this one to the brother in law and my mom and my sis ....they never over reacted this way......they just said.....let time come...Gurudev will answer you, and once I saw Gurudev in My dreams every thing melted....in me.....everything. So Mr. Vishwas if you really want to seeking the Supreme then Welcome......you are at the right place. All your queries will find answers...pls visit Guruddham, Jodhpur on October 28, 29, 30 or at Gurudham Delhi on 15, 16, 17. Jai Gurudev --- Bhupendra Jamnadas <b_jamna> wrote: > Are very good reply! BRAVO! > > Dhirendra Pal Singh <dpal.singh > wrote:There comes another one... > > Boy this is going to be fun.. > > Long time since anyone on this list has asked these > kind of questions.... and I am trying to stop myself > not to answer it.. but what the heck I will drop in > one line.. just for the sake of it.. and off course > will apologies for what ever I am about to say.. > before I say it.. > > "Give me one good reason why I should waste my time > and energy in showing you that. I dont want to/ have > to prove anything to anyone. You are the one who is > asking for proof. Loose some sleep and do it > yourself, and find out if its "'pakhand" or not. If > you think it is pakhand then be happy with it. The > entire idea you took the time and liberty to come to > this mailing list and put this email in, means that > either A) you dont believe in all this stuff but > are doubting yourself now, or B) You just like to > have fun by picking on other peaceful people." > > And now about the proof part, Science has not yet > been able to isolate one of the parts of the body > called "brain" All that can figured out 2 different > sides to it called as "grey and white matter". > Theories of Einstine are still unsolved, even he > gave up after a certain point saying that normal > human brain cant go after a certain point..., there > is a place near san jose called mystery point where > law of gravity dosent work (ya no one has an answer > to it, its still open), and here you come trying to > challange these occult sciences of India, which are > far more ahead / advanced / tough then the problems > I have described above. > > So I suggest you as this question to yourself first > "Are you worth, understanding these occult indian > sciences...?" All the answeres are inside you. > > BTW its considered very rude to type in all CAPS, > its like shoulting and yelling.. please dont do > that... Be respectful to other, if not for any other > reason, then just because they are humans. > > Again I am sorry if I have hurt anyone... didnt mean > to do it.. just sometimes its hard for me to control > when these kind of questions arise... > > Thanks > Dp > > > On 8/16/05, anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw > wrote:JOY GURUDEV ! > > > CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... > YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT > PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY > WHATSOEVER MEANS! > > IF YES I AM READY. > > CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? > > BIG QUESTION FOREVER? > > BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE > ENSURED. > > > > > > > > > Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi > shopping, contests and lots more. > http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html > > Jay Gurudev > > Different religions beliefs > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > -- > Thanks > /dev/dp > > Jay Gurudev > > Different religions beliefs > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > Find your next car at Canada Autos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2005 Thanks and Regards Dp On 9/17/05, gaurav shrimali <gaurav_nikhil26 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Jai Gurudev, First the thing, that is dignity of sadhak that they will never show what they are and how much they able to do. and whenever question of manifestation of divinity I ask to you " HAVE YOU POWER TO MANIFEST THEM ?" and "WHAT IS GUARRENTY AFTER MANIFEST U BECOME ALIVE?" many sadhaks of this group are not fool that they prepare them from foundation & gradually increase there power. " WE CAN PROVE ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE THE PRESENCE OF GOD ,WE ARE ABLE TO DO BUT R U ELIGIBLE FOR THAT? " have u power to digest the divine power becoz the ultimate climex of power is form of divine person. have u power to bear any tanra ? have u power to utter the proper mantra. this is only grace of gurudev that he provide simple ways of sadhana otherwise even in the group nobody can able to perform single sadhana. so we always remine and connect and contain guru? tantra is very vast, guru is very massive, mantras are so big , and god is so energetic. even you are not able to face the sign of god , not even the sun ? not even the view the sun more then for 10 mins. at its boom time then how u consider that u can view god who is koti surya samam syaat. first get the energy then I will talk to u. thanking u Gaurav Shrimali anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: JOY GURUDEV ! CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! IF YES I AM READY. CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? BIG QUESTION FOREVER? BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Jay Gurudev Visit your group "" on the web. -- Thanks/dev/dp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Hello, Sorry for this late responce.. somehow I missed a batch of emails I guess... My Answer are embeded... Also Shri is not needed before my name.. anill shaw wrote: > Thanks Sri /*Dhirendra Pal Singh .... You have written very well but > my friend all u written is only assumption .... even strong peson > like u might have not seen the miracle. > */ What makes you think that I havent seen the miracle... May be I have seen it as a kid? Or may be I have not, how ever I will prefer to stay silent on this point as usual. Just because you havent seen it dosent means no one else has seen it. Dont verify for me, let me do the verification. Also Anill ji, I dont just write because I have to write, I write or say something only when I am following it too or I am convinced that at least thats the most logical way of doing it.. > /**/ > // > /*Please think a simple thing ...... * do not go on manifest or > question of live after MANIFEST ..u r having great power and u can do > a miracle just ....just .....my friend give a small belief either by > yourself or with help of SADHAK PARIWAR tell me somthing about my past > or future absolutely right..... this is very simple thing to prove > that GOD is there. CAN U DO SO ? IF NOT , PLEASE DO NOT SHOUT > UNNECESSARILY ... about manifest or other power of MANTRA .../ Anill ji, Just because I cant prove it dosent means GOD is not there. My Capabilities have nothing to do with that of existance of God. In case you havent understood let me clerify it for you, I am way too small when it comes to God, not even an ant. Now Even Hypoticatically - Logically , just becase I cant see it, doesen means its not there... as if that was the case, then in relation to all blind persons, this world would not have existed. How ever the world exists even though they cant see it. Now I am not shouting, thats a mistake... Just trying to make a point firmly, thats all. You think you are the first person who has asked this question... Fortunately or Un-Fortunately the world is full of people like you. And I dont have to convince you for anything... you are free to believe what ever you want... and finally "my belief doesnt require you to believe on it". Its way stronger then that. Its is you who is raising this questions, not me.. I am cool.. > > /"EMPTY VESSELS SOUNDS MUCH AND BARKING DOG SELDOM BITE"/ That is very true.. how ever I never said, what I can do or what I cant. Its not about me, its about you. I just said how dumb of you to come here and ask this quesiton.. being very frank.. You dont like it.. leave...simple. Dont waste other peoples time...If you are inquisitive, then ask, just waste time. > > COME TO WORLD OF *_YATHARTA BECAUSE GOD LIKE YTHARTA.. NOT VAGUE > ..AS PER ...DHARMA ETC._* The world I have to go or come, has already been decided way before I came here (on earth).. you neither have to ask me to come, nor have to guide me. Gurudev is taking care of me... I dont need no body, specially not you, who himself dosent know what to do... > > > *_THANKING U ONCE AGAIN_* You dont have to thank me. I didnt do nothing. Just spent 15 mins in writing, just because I cant stand when people ask these questions. Perhaps you will find answer to you question. Howeve I would like to say one thing, Dont challange when you are in this (meditation /tantra) world. It doesnt get you squat. Please expect no further responce from me on this point... Thanks.. Dp > > // > /*Dhirendra Pal Singh <dpal.singh*/ wrote: > > Very Well said.. I liked the answer... > Thanks and Regards > Dp > > > On 9/17/05, *gaurav shrimali* <gaurav_nikhil26 > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > > Jai Gurudev, > > First the thing, that is dignity of sadhak that they will > never show what they are and how much they able to do. and > whenever question of manifestation of divinity I ask to you " > HAVE YOU POWER TO MANIFEST THEM ?" and "WHAT IS > GUARRENTY AFTER MANIFEST U BECOME ALIVE?" > many sadhaks of this group are not fool that they prepare them > from foundation & gradually increase there power. > " WE CAN PROVE ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE THE PRESENCE OF GOD ,WE > ARE ABLE TO DO BUT R U ELIGIBLE FOR THAT? " > have u power to digest the divine power becoz the ultimate > climex of power is form of divine person. > have u power to bear any tanra ? have u power to utter the > proper mantra. > this is only grace of gurudev that he provide simple ways of > sadhana otherwise even in the group nobody can able to perform > single sadhana. so we always remine and connect and contain guru? > tantra is very vast, guru is very massive, mantras are so big > , and god is so energetic. > even you are not able to face the sign of god , not even the sun ? > not even the view the sun more then for 10 mins. at its boom > time then how u consider that u can view god who is koti surya > samam syaat. > first get the energy then I will talk to u. > > thanking u > Gaurav Shrimali > > */anill shaw <anilprasad_shaw > <anilprasad_shaw>/ *wrote: > > *JOY GURUDEV !* > > > CAN ANY BODY PLEASE SHOW ME PERSONNELY THAT ..... YES GOD > IS THERE ! YES TANTRA MANTRA IS REAL ! NOT PAKHAND ? NOT > A BUSINESS OF SOME PAKHANDIES! BY WHATSOEVER MEANS! > > IF YES I AM READY. > > CAN ANY BODY LET ME REALISE ? > > *BIG QUESTION FOREVER? * > > BEFORE DISCUSSION ANY THING ITS REALITY MUST BE ENSURED. > > > > > ------ > Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, > contests and lots more. > http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html > <http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html> > > ------ > India Matrimony <http://.shaadi.com/>: Find your > partner now. > > Jay Gurudev ------ > > > * Visit your group " > <>" on the web. > > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * > Terms of Service <>. > > > ------ > > > > > -- > Thanks > /dev/dp > > Jay Gurudev ------ > > > * Visit your group " > <>" on the web. > > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > > ------ > India Matrimony <http://.shaadi.com>: Find your partner now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
