exam by guruji

July 5, 2005

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">Jai Gurudev,

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">Just want to know, who are other two

shishya;s of swami sachhidanand apart from nikhileshwaranand,

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">And then wasn’t sachhidanand was

guru of Nityanand?

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">And what was that exam which pojya gurudev

gave it to qualify shishya of swami Sacchidanand.

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">I am really keen to know it.

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">Jai Gurudev

10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"">Vikram

July 6, 2005

jaigurudev

three shisyas are nikhileshoranand, gunatitanand, hiranyagarva(sankaracharya)

Madhav Mainali

Atlanta, USA>"Vikram Korde" <vikram.korde (AT) ness-gsg (DOT) com>>

>"'iss'" <>>Subject:

exam by guruji>Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:08:20 +0530>>Jai

Gurudev,>>>>Just want to know, who are other two shishya;s of swami

sachhidanand apart>from nikhileshwaranand,>>>>And then wasn't sachhidanand was

guru of Nityanand?>>>>And what was that exam which pojya gurudev gave it to

qualify shishya of>swami Sacchidanand.>>>>I am really keen to know it.>>>>Jai

Gurudev>>Vikram>

July 7, 2005

Jai Gurudev

Pujya Shankaracharyaji's Gurudev is/was a shisya of His Holiness

Pujyapaad DadaGurudev Swami Sachidanandji.

I do not remember name of third Shishya (disciple)

Vikramji, are you a shisya of Pujya Gurudev. Have you taken Diksha?

If yes, then, you should take Pujya DadaGurudev's name with respect.

Your question regarding exam is a bit naive. This is not a academic

classroom wherein one takes an annula or a periodic exam.

The concept of exam/test here is continuous. One gets tested every

moment. For instance, a disciple may get a feeling to perform 21

rounds of Guru Mantra on a particular day. After a few moments,

someone (family member/neighbour) may give some other work to

disciple to do within same timeframe. This itself is a test to

ascertain if the disciple feels Guru Mantra jap to be more important

than any other physical-mundane work.

Or a disciple may have decided to do Guru Sewa by distributing

pamphlets on a particular day. However, as soon as he starts from

house, it may start raining, and then the test is to ascertain if

disciple is brave enough to weather the rain to accomplish his task.

Or a disciple may have started a multiple day Sadhana/anusthaan, and

his work-boss may ask him to go on a tour within that timeframe. Or

he may get a craving to eat meat or fish during the Sadhana period.

The above two are very basic examples. Pujya SadGuru constantly keeps

testing the disciples, at every moment. One is constantly under His

gaze. And, one keeps getting opposition in various forms (family

circumstances, work pressure, illness, environment etc.) as soon as

one starts thinking of starting a Sadhana, or doing some Guru Sewa.

These "oppositions" are meant to test the resolve of Sadhak.

The "oppositions" are also manifestations of past sins and karmas of

Sadhak. These past sins appear as a opposing family member, or work

pressure, or illness, or something else. One has to have a very

strong resolution, if one wants to tread this path. Tranversing on

this path is similar to walking on a sword, wherein one has to

constantly give highest priority to Sadhana/Gurusewa, over everything

else- children, family, job etc.

Even Jesus Christ said -Oh God, please do not put me on more tests.

In fact, in this age, it is very difficult for Pujya Gurudev to test

a disciple. In the olden days, disciples used to live in Ashrams,and

could not go out. These days, a disciple may simply bend under the

pressure, and decide to opt out and leave Gurudev & Sadhanas. Some of

such people, who are unable to cope with the tests, then start to

defame pujya Gurudev and Sadhanas, little realizing that they could

also have succeeded if they had acted more resolutely and

industriously.

Anyone can attain success in Sadhanas. If person "A" can, so can "B",

and so can you. You only need to follow the process both physically

and mentally, with strong resolution.

Jai Gurudev

, "Vikram Korde" <vikram.korde@n...>

wrote:

> Jai Gurudev,

>

> Just want to know, who are other two shishya;s of swami

sachhidanand apart

> from nikhileshwaranand,

>

> And then wasn't sachhidanand was guru of Nityanand?

>

> And what was that exam which pojya gurudev gave it to qualify

shishya of

> swami Sacchidanand.

>

> I am really keen to know it.

>

> Jai Gurudev

>

> Vikram

July 7, 2005

Well, I read book "Amrit Bund", its really very nice book.

In same book, guruji has told that he had given some test.

I just want to know what was that test. Because I am wondering what could be

test taken by great saint sacchidanandji.

Also sankaracharya is that one who established 4 mathas & blessed by Shiva?

- vikram

July 7, 2005

I agree completely with desi_videshi's explanation on exams?

Every disciple of Pujya Gurudev has gone through and keeps going through

such situations.

July 7, 2005

I think its Sandipani Rishi not Gunatitanand. Both happens to be Guru of Lord Krishna.

Very well put desi_videshi Jee. I will try to reach you over the weekend.

Warm Regards

Mithilesh

On 7/6/05, Madhav Mainali <m_mainali (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

jaigurudev

three shisyas are nikhileshoranand, gunatitanand, hiranyagarva(sankaracharya)

Madhav Mainali

Atlanta, USA>"Vikram Korde" <vikram.korde (AT) ness-gsg (DOT) com

>>>"'iss'" <

>> exam by guruji>Wed, 6 Jul

2005 11:08:20 +0530 >>Jai Gurudev,>>>>Just want to know, who are other two

shishya;s of swami sachhidanand apart>from nikhileshwaranand,>

>>>And then wasn't sachhidanand was guru of Nityanand?>>>>And what was that exam

which pojya gurudev gave it to qualify shishya of>swami Sacchidanand.>>

>>I am really keen to know it.>>>>Jai Gurudev>>Vikram>

Jay Gurudev

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July 8, 2005

Any idea how

pujya gurudev filled that basket with water?

Or it was just

with will power?.

I remember one

story of some rishi’s wife, used to bring water in sari due to her

pati-vrat.

- vikram

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[] On Behalf Of Goel Anurag-A20572

Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:55

PM

''

RE: exam by

guruji

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Yup! there was series of exams. Pujya

Gurudev had to attain a extremely high level in Sadhanas & everything.

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Most imp. exam was Dada Gurudev asked

Pujya Gurudev to fill basket of wood (tokri) which had holes are over it with

water and bring it to him. And Pujya Gurudev was not to use any Mantra,

Sadhana or anything else.

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Pujya Gurudev passed the exam.

12.0pt">

[] On Behalf

Of Madhav Mainali

Wednesday, July 06, 2005

10:36 PM

RE: exam by

guruji

jaigurudev

three

shisyas are nikhileshoranand, gunatitanand, hiranyagarva(sankaracharya)

Madhav

Mainali

Atlanta,

USA

12.0pt">

>"Vikram Korde" <vikram.korde (AT) ness-gsg (DOT) com>

>

>"'iss'" <>

> exam by guruji

>Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:08:20 +0530

>

>Jai Gurudev,

>

>Just want to know, who are other two shishya;s of swami sachhidanand apart

>from nikhileshwaranand,

>

>And then wasn't sachhidanand was guru of Nityanand?

>

>And what was that exam which pojya gurudev gave it to qualify shishya of

>swami Sacchidanand.

>

>I am really keen to know it.

>

>Jai Gurudev

>

>Vikram

>

12.0pt">

Jay

Gurudev

Jay Gurudev

July 8, 2005

Could u plz tell me if there is some ans to how our Pujya Gurudev was able to do that ?

I am just curious to know.

Jay Gurudev.Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com> wrote:

Yup! there was series of exams. Pujya Gurudev had to attain a extremely high

level in Sadhanas & everything.

Most imp. exam was Dada Gurudev asked Pujya Gurudev to fill basket of wood

(tokri) which had holes are over it with water and bring it to him. And Pujya

Gurudev was not to use any Mantra, Sadhana or anything else.

Pujya Gurudev passed the exam.

[] On Behalf Of Madhav MainaliWednesday,

July 06, 2005 10:36 PMSubject: RE: exam

by guruji

jaigurudev

three shisyas are nikhileshoranand, gunatitanand, hiranyagarva(sankaracharya)

Madhav Mainali

Atlanta, USA>"Vikram Korde" <vikram.korde (AT) ness-gsg (DOT) com>>

>"'iss'" <>>Subject:

exam by guruji>Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:08:20 +0530>>Jai

Gurudev,>>>>Just want to know, who are other two shishya;s of swami

sachhidanand apart>from nikhileshwaranand,>>>>And then wasn't sachhidanand was

guru of Nityanand?>>>>And what was that exam which pojya gurudev gave it to

qualify shishya of>swami Sacchidanand.>>>>I am really keen to know it.>>>>Jai

Gurudev>>Vikram>Jay GurudevJay Gurudev

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July 8, 2005

Jai Gurudev!

Gurdev Ki Kripa Aparampar!

Pujaya gurubhai aur bhen

What I have heard until now from Gurubhais, as old as

20 years and those who have done sadhnas under the

guidance of Bade Gurudev present in physical form, is

that the two other desciples of Bhagwan Sachhidanandji

are pujya Shree Kirshna and Raja Brihathari. Our

beloved SaddGurudev is the third desciple our

bhagwatpaad parampujniya brahamswaroop bhagwan

sachhidanandji.

It is in fact that Lord Krishna has in may places in

the Holy Gita spoken about Bhagwan Sachhidanandji too.

I got confused by the answers given by other pujaya

gurubhai, but i will get thsi confirmed soon.

Jai Gurudev!

som

--- Vikram Korde <vikram.korde wrote:

> Jai Gurudev,

>

> Just want to know, who are other two shishya;s of

> swami sachhidanand apart

> from nikhileshwaranand,

>

> And then wasn't sachhidanand was guru of Nityanand?

>

> And what was that exam which pojya gurudev gave it

> to qualify shishya of

> swami Sacchidanand.

>

> I am really keen to know it.

>

> Jai Gurudev

>

> Vikram

>

July 11, 2005

They say that respect is in the feelings of heart. Two words here or there do

not matter. That "some rishi" is Rishi Jamdagni. Rishi Jamdagni is father of

Lord Parshurama, incarnation of Shri Vishnu. Rishi Jamdagni's wife is Sati

Renuka.

Om Namah Shivaye

Om Param Tatvaye Narayanaye Gurubhyo Namah

Om Namah Shivaye

Vikram Korde <vikram.korde (AT) ness-gsg (DOT) com> wrote:

Any idea how pujya gurudev filled that basket with water?

Or it was just with will power?.

I remember one story of some rishi’s wife, used to bring water in sari due to her pati-vrat.

- vikram

[] On Behalf Of

Goel Anurag-A20572Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:55 PMTo:

''RE: exam by guruji

Yup! there was series of exams. Pujya Gurudev had to attain a extremely high

level in Sadhanas & everything.

Most imp. exam was Dada Gurudev asked Pujya Gurudev to fill basket of wood

(tokri) which had holes are over it with water and bring it to him. And Pujya

Gurudev was not to use any Mantra, Sadhana or anything else.

Pujya Gurudev passed the exam.

[] On Behalf Of Madhav MainaliWednesday,

July 06, 2005 10:36 PMSubject: RE: exam

by guruji

jaigurudev

three shisyas are nikhileshoranand, gunatitanand, hiranyagarva(sankaracharya)

Madhav Mainali

Atlanta, USA

>"Vikram Korde" <vikram.korde (AT) ness-gsg (DOT) com>>

>"'iss'" <>>Subject:

exam by guruji>Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:08:20 +0530>>Jai

Gurudev,>>>>Just want to know, who are other two shishya;s of swami

sachhidanand apart>from nikhileshwaranand,>>>>And then wasn't sachhidanand was

guru of Nityanand?>>>>And what was that exam which pojya gurudev gave it to

qualify shishya of>swami Sacchidanand.>>>>I am really keen to know it.>>>>Jai

Gurudev>>Vikram>

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July 12, 2005

Om Nikhileshwaraye Namah Om Gam Ganpatye Namah Om Nikhileshwaraye Namah

This instance has been published in MTYV to motivate the sadhaks. There it is

not mentioned that the disciple in this instance Are our Gurudev Nikhil. This

instance has been mentioned in a book also.We will have to search that book

again to see if Gurudev's Name has been mentioned there.

Looking at the questions and answers, we realise that how the myths are created.

We would just look at the how this instance has been presented in MTYV magazine.

A Guru asks his disciples to bring water in baskets made of bamboo sticks. All

disciples move towards the river and start filling their respective baskets. As

the bamboo sticks were not bound airtight, water leaked out of those baskets as

soon as they were taken out water. All disciples after trying for some time

decided to come back and report their inabilty to fill the water in those

buckets. Only one disciple did not come back. He kept on trying to fill his

bamboo stick bucket again and again. He was completely sure that if his Guru

has given this task then there has to be some reason. Guru does not do any

activity without any reason. If Guru has asked to fill this basket then surely

it would be possible to fill this bamboo stick basket with water. That disciple

kept on trying till evening, by that time the bamboo sticks, of which his basket

was made of, absorbed enough water that they became thick enough to plug the air

gaps. So after trying

for whole day that disciple was to fill up water and bring it before his Guru in

the evening. Guru was very pleased and said" I knew that I had given an

impossible task, a disciple is one who just turns impossible into possible by

sheer hard work,resolve and unwavering faith ."

Here it is the underlying message which needs to be inculcated by sadhaks

rather than enjoying it as a "story". That the real purpose of publishing such

instances every month in MTYV Magazine and also in books.

A single instance can not sum up the qualities of our Gurudev which made them

the favourite disciple of Swami Sachidananda. Whoever is the disciple in the

abovementioned instance, is an icon of the heritage of Guru- Shishya tradition

in India which has kept the essence of knowledge and values of our anscetors

alive till today.

Our Gurudev has done which is unparalled in the whole history of world. Even

Swami Sachidanand had said" The circumstances prevailing in the society were

not so poisonous even in the times when Jagat Guru Adi Sankra and Guru

Gorakhnath appeared on BharatBhoomi to uphold the values and knowledge of

country. " Swami Sachidananda knew that Gurudev Nikhil has near impossible task

at His hands and He will have to suffer to extent, which can not be put into

words.

We have used some of the quotes from the Gurudev's books and various

descriptions given by sadhaks who were with our Gurudev during Their days as a

Sanyasi Sadhak.

Gurudev you created History. We just write few mails about that and earn

applause of the readers. We know that and still we keep on writing. As such who

are we to write anything about You when even Goddess Saraswati could not

describe you completely.

Om Namah Shivaye

Om Param Tatvaye Narayanaye Gurubhyo Namah

Om Namah Shivaye

Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com> wrote:

faith in Guru did that. Pujya Gurudev kind of said that if my Guru says that

water can be filled in this basket then water can be filled. And with such a

faith he lowered basket in the river and when he took out the basket water was

still there.

Jai Gurudev!!!

[] On Behalf Of Vikram KordeFriday, July

08, 2005 2:57 PMSubject: RE: exam by

guruji

Any idea how pujya gurudev filled that basket with water?

Or it was just with will power?.

I remember one story of some rishi's wife, used to bring water in sari due to her pati-vrat.

- vikram

[] On Behalf Of

Goel Anurag-A20572Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:55 PMTo:

''RE: exam by guruji

Yup! there was series of exams. Pujya Gurudev had to attain a extremely high

level in Sadhanas & everything.

Most imp. exam was Dada Gurudev asked Pujya Gurudev to fill basket of wood

(tokri) which had holes are over it with water and bring it to him. And Pujya

Gurudev was not to use any Mantra, Sadhana or anything else.

Pujya Gurudev passed the exam.

[] On Behalf Of Madhav MainaliWednesday,

July 06, 2005 10:36 PMSubject: RE: exam

by guruji

jaigurudev

three shisyas are nikhileshoranand, gunatitanand, hiranyagarva(sankaracharya)

Madhav Mainali

Atlanta, USA

>"Vikram Korde" <vikram.korde (AT) ness-gsg (DOT) com>>

>"'iss'" <>>Subject:

exam by guruji>Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:08:20 +0530>>Jai

Gurudev,>>>>Just want to know, who are other two shishya;s of swami

sachhidanand apart>from nikhileshwaranand,>>>>And then wasn't sachhidanand was

guru of Nityanand?>>>>And what was that exam which pojya gurudev gave it to

qualify shishya of>swami Sacchidanand.>>>>I am really keen to know it.>>>>Jai

Gurudev>>Vikram>

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Jay Gurudev,

Dear GoelJi, can you please tell the

page number where you read the above instance in

'Mantra Rahasya'.

Thanks & Regards

--- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

wrote:

> Dear Ajay,

>

> Thanks for posting it. If i

> remember correctly i read it in

> "Mantra Rahasya", and if i am able to recall

> correctly Swami Sachidananda

> gave this task to Pujya Gurudev.

>

> Jai Gurudev!!!

>

> [] On Behalf

> Of ajay sharma

> Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:53 PM

>

> RE: exam by guruji

>

> Om Nikhileshwaraye Namah Om Gam Ganpatye Namah Om

> Nikhileshwaraye Namah

>

> This instance has been published in MTYV to

> motivate the sadhaks. There it

> is not mentioned that the disciple in this instance

> Are our Gurudev Nikhil.

> This instance has been mentioned in a book also.We

> will have to search that

> book again to see if Gurudev's Name has been

> mentioned there.

>

> Looking at the questions and answers, we realise

> that how the myths are

> created. We would just look at the how this instance

> has been presented in

> MTYV magazine.

>

> A Guru asks his disciples to bring water in

> baskets made of bamboo sticks.

> All disciples move towards the river and start

> filling their respective

> baskets. As the bamboo sticks were not bound

> airtight, water leaked out of

> those baskets as soon as they were taken out water.

> All disciples after

> trying for some time decided to come back and report

> their inabilty to fill

> the water in those buckets. Only one disciple did

> not come back. He kept on

> trying to fill his bamboo stick bucket again and

> again. He was completely

> sure that if his Guru has given this task then there

> has to be some reason.

> Guru does not do any activity without any reason. If

> Guru has asked to fill

> this basket then surely it would be possible to fill

> this bamboo stick

> basket with water. That disciple kept on trying till

> evening, by that time

> the bamboo sticks, of which his basket was made of,

> absorbed enough water

> that they became thick enough to plug the air gaps.

> So after! trying for

> whole day that disciple was to fill up water and

> bring it before his Guru in

> the evening. Guru was very pleased and said" I knew

> that I had given an

> impossible task, a disciple is one who just turns

> impossible into possible

> by sheer hard work,resolve and unwavering faith ."

> Here it is the underlying message which needs to be

> inculcated by sadhaks

> rather than enjoying it as a "story". That the real

> purpose of publishing

> such instances every month in MTYV Magazine and also

> in books.

> A single instance can not sum up the qualities of

> our Gurudev which made

> them the favourite disciple of Swami Sachidananda.

> Whoever is the disciple

> in the abovementioned instance, is an icon of the

> heritage of Guru- Shishya

> tradition in India which has kept the essence of

> knowledge and values of our

> anscetors alive till today.

> Our Gurudev has done which is unparalled in the

> whole history of world. Even

> Swami Sachidanand had said" The circumstances

> prevailing in the society were

> not so poisonous even in the times when Jagat Guru

> Adi Sankra and Guru

> Gorakhnath appeared on BharatBhoomi to uphold the

> values and knowledge of

> country. " Swami Sachidananda knew that Gurudev

> Nikhil has near impossible

> task at His hands and He will have to suffer to

> extent, which can not be put

> into words.

> We have used some of the quotes from the Gurudev's

> books and various

> descriptions given by sadhaks who were with our

> Gurudev during Their days as

> a Sanyasi Sadhak.

>

> Gurudev you created History. We just write few mails

> about that and earn

> applause of the readers. We know that and still we

> keep on writing. As such

> who are we to write anything about You when even

> Goddess Saraswati could not

> describe you completely.

>

> Om Namah Shivaye

> Om Param Tatvaye Narayanaye Gurubhyo Namah

> Om Namah Shivaye

>

Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel wrote:

>

> faith in Guru did that. Pujya Gurudev kind of said

> that if my Guru says that

> water can be filled in this basket then water can be

> filled. And with such a

> faith he lowered basket in the river and when he

> took out the basket water

> was still there.

>

> Jai Gurudev!!!

>

> [] On Behalf

> Of Vikram Korde

> Friday, July 08, 2005 2:57 PM

>

> RE: exam by guruji

>

> Any idea how pujya gurudev filled that basket with

> water?

>

> Or it was just with will power?.

>

> I remember one story of some rishi's wife, used to

> bring water in sari due

> to her pati-vrat.

>

> - vikram

>

> _____

>

> [] On Behalf

> Of Goel Anurag-A20572

> Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:55 PM

> ''

> RE: exam by guruji

>

> Yup! there was series of exams. Pujya Gurudev had to

> attain a extremely high

> level in Sadhanas & everything.

>

> Most imp. exam was Dada Gurudev asked Pujya Gurudev

> to fill basket of wood

> (tokri) which had holes are over it with water and

> bring it to him. And

> Pujya Gurudev was not to use any Mantra, Sadhana or

> anything else.

>

> Pujya Gurudev passed the exam.

>

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Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Ajay,

Thanks for posting it. If i remember correctly i read it in

"Mantra Rahasya", and if i am able to recall correctly Swami Sachidananda gave

this task to Pujya Gurudev.

Jai Gurudev!!!

[] On Behalf Of ajay sharmaTuesday, July

12, 2005 1:53 PMSubject: RE: exam by