Guest guest Report post Posted December 16, 2003 dear brothers, being completely foolish, i have a unique problem. i have samagri for some prayogs lying at home for years now, but i do not know what to do with it as i do not have the required procedures. if anyone with old issues can help me i will be grateful. 1)sarva karya siddhi yantra, i think moonga mala i think from bhaoutik sadhana and safalta --what is this for and whats the procedure. if anyone has any other procedure using sarva karya siddhi yantra, i will be grateful as then i can send the yantra where it rightly belongs--in the river. 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the procedure. no clue about any issue. 3)kamroopini yantra, ratya ramya safed hakeek mala. from the name it looks like it is some love beauty sadhana. what is it for? and should be in an isuue older than 98. no other idea about its usage. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ also since i read some comment sometime back --dhoomavati siddhi diwas falls on 19th december this friday. for the rest. my best wishes to all of you. and i dont think i am coming back yet. jai gurudev anu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2003 if u r using the samagri, sent them to me my adress is:- Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea Major Road Bois Mangue Plaine des Papayes Mauririus thanks. BT Broadband - Save £80 when you order online today. Hurry! Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2003 , devi_bhagat wrote: in the river. > > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the > procedure. no clue about any issue. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen, if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay gutika" then this is the procedure february 2003 "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays , this is for victory over death accomplished by bhishma pitamah jai gurudev soham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2003 --- dear mohitesswurree i dont think it is a good idea to take samagri lying at someone else's place for so long even if it is unused. i suggest that you first zero in on why you want to do a sadhana ie for what do you wish to achieve from it, then decide on one and only one sadhana. and then according to capacity and time, chant 5, 11 21 rosaries daily without stop till your job is done. the other alternative is to take asankalp (water in hand and an oath) and follow the regime for 21, 32 or 40 days and disperse the samagri in water after that. small prayogs are not for beginners. i have not yet met a single person who got up and chanted a few mala one fine day and changed his life drastically. there has to be a regualr regime. it is a new way of life and that alone will work. we chant guru, chetna and gayatri daily. apart from that i have a personal regime where this is followed by 1 mala of a ganapati mantra and then 1 for all 9 planets- brahma muraristripurant...as a mark of respect to them, and to empty my head of teh astrology i filled it with. then i worship my ishta (which is subject to change from time to time:)-but is always form of divine mother. for a beginner, the first sadhana(s) should involve driving away the negative energies. they may take the form of tantra badha - obsessions, possessions, negative planetary influences whatever. they are usually manifestations of our own negative tendencies/thoughts/actions cumulated over time. i think this is very important. my suggestions are bhuvaneshwari or mahakali or shiva simply aum namah shivaaya to start or mrtyunjaya. BUT, then you have to find who appeals to you and what works for you. best wishes jai gurudev anu In , Kumari J <kumaree1958> wrote: > dear sister, > if u r using the samagri, sent them to me > my adress is:- > > Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea > Major Road > Bois Mangue > Plaine des Papayes > Mauririus > > thanks. > > > > > BT Broadband - Save £80 when you order online today. Hurry! Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2003 --- dear brother, i wasnt so interested in victory over death -i dont think i am dying for atleast the next 50 years! but then maybe i will perform it as i have the samagri. i was hoping for something which will make me a master of my own time efficient and productive as a human being- -a complete opposite to what i am today. thank you very much in anycase. we know each other -- don't we? if you/someone else can provide me with the other two i will be grateful. especially, the kamroopini one as i am on 6 month beauty mission these days-starting this minute:)but then, to stick to it i will have to start the mahakal sadhana first. best wishes and affection, more some other time love to all jaigurudev anu In , tantrasiddhi wrote: > , devi_bhagat wrote: > in the river. > > > > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the > > procedure. no clue about any issue. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen, > if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay > gutika" then this is the procedure > february 2003 > "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and > mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika > duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays , this > is for victory over death > accomplished by bhishma pitamah > > > jai gurudev > soham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2003 , devi_bhagat wrote: > --- > > dear brother, > i wasnt so interested in victory over death -i dont think i am > dying for atleast the next 50 years! but then maybe i will perform > it as i have the samagri. i was hoping for something which will make > me a master of my own time efficient and productive as a human being- > -a complete opposite to what i am today. thank you very much in > anycase. >>>>>>>>>>>>r>>>>>>gurudev has explained about this sadhana as"saans leene se bhi zaroori sadhana" and one becomes successful in every spheres of life on succesful accomplishment of this sadhana. > we know each other -- don't we? if you/someone else can provide me > with the other two i will be grateful. especially, the kamroopini > one as i am on 6 month beauty mission these days-starting this > minute:)but then, to stick to it i will have to start the mahakal > sadhana first. >>>>>>>>>>>>r>>>>>>no we dont know each other i joined just a year back to this forum but i know u from all that messages u posted here. i have magazines of 2001 onwards and i dont think i have the kaamroopini sadhana.good luck from me for ur mission. > > best wishes and affection, > more some other time > love to all >>>>>double the best wishes and affection to u jaigurudev soham >> In , tantrasiddhi wrote: > > , devi_bhagat wrote: > > in the river. > > > > > > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the > > > procedure. no clue about any issue. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen, > > if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay > > gutika" then this is the procedure > > february 2003 > > "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and > > mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika > > duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays , > this > > is for victory over death > > accomplished by bhishma pitamah > > > > > > jai gurudev > > soham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2003 one shouldn't use someone else's samaagri. Once we get saamagri in our name, our feelings/ thoughts get associated with it. So they might not turn out be that beneficial for someone else. Such i came to know recently. Jai Gurudev Kumari J [kumaree1958 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:30 PMSubject: Re: query dear sister, if u r using the samagri, sent them to me my adress is:- Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea Major Road Bois Mangue Plaine des Papayes Mauririus thanks. BT Broadband - Save £80 when you order online today. Hurry! Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be. Jay Gurudev/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2003 devi_bhagat wrote: ---dear brother,i wasnt so interested in victory over death -i dont think i am dying for atleast the next 50 years! but then maybe i will perform it as i have the samagri. i was hoping for something which will make me a master of my own time efficient and productive as a human being--a complete opposite to what i am today. thank you very much in anycase. we know each other -- don't we? if you/someone else can provide me with the other two i will be grateful. especially, the kamroopini one as i am on 6 month beauty mission these days-starting this minute:)but then, to stick to it i will have to start the mahakal sadhana first.best wishes and affection,more some other timelove to alljaigurudevanuIn , tantrasiddhi wrote:> --- In , devi_bhagat wrote:> in the river.> > > > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the > > procedure. no clue about any issue.> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen,> if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay > gutika" then this is the procedure > february 2003> "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and > mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika> duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays , this > is for victory over death > accomplished by bhishma pitamah > > > jai gurudev> sohamJay Gurudev/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2003 If u r in the habbit of changing ISHTA which is termed as the father of devotee than u will be empty-handed at the end of the day. give it a thought. devi_bhagat wrote: ---dear mohitesswurreei dont think it is a good idea to take samagri lying at someone else's place for so long even if it is unused. i suggest that you first zero in on why you want to do a sadhana ie for what do you wish to achieve from it, then decide on one and only one sadhana. and then according to capacity and time, chant 5, 11 21 rosaries daily without stop till your job is done. the other alternative is to take asankalp (water in hand and an oath) and follow the regime for 21, 32 or 40 days and disperse the samagri in water after that.small prayogs are not for beginners. i have not yet met a single person who got up and chanted a few mala one fine day and changed his life drastically. there has to be a regualr regime. it is a new way of life and that alone will work. we chant guru, chetna and gayatri daily. apart from that i have a personal regime where this is followed by 1 mala of a ganapati mantra and then 1 for all 9 planets- brahma muraristripurant...as a mark of respect to them, and to empty my head of teh astrology i filled it with.then i worship my ishta (which is subject to change from time to time:)-but is always form of divine mother. for a beginner, the first sadhana(s) should involve driving away the negative energies. they may take the form of tantra badha -obsessions, possessions, negative planetary influences whatever. they are usually manifestations of our own negative tendencies/thoughts/actions cumulated over time. i think this is very important.my suggestions are bhuvaneshwari or mahakali or shiva simply aum namah shivaaya to start or mrtyunjaya. BUT, then you have to find who appeals to you and what works for you.best wishesjai gurudevanuIn , Kumari J <kumaree1958> wrote:> dear sister,> if u r using the samagri, sent them to me> my adress is:-> > Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea> Major Road> Bois Mangue> Plaine des Papayes> Mauririus> > thanks.> > > > > BT Broadband - Save £80 when you order online today. Hurry! Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be.Jay Gurudev/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2003 If u r in the habbit of changing ISHTA which is termed as the father of devotee than u will be empty-handed at the end of the day. give it a thought. devi_bhagat wrote: ---dear mohitesswurreei dont think it is a good idea to take samagri lying at someone else's place for so long even if it is unused. i suggest that you first zero in on why you want to do a sadhana ie for what do you wish to achieve from it, then decide on one and only one sadhana. and then according to capacity and time, chant 5, 11 21 rosaries daily without stop till your job is done. the other alternative is to take asankalp (water in hand and an oath) and follow the regime for 21, 32 or 40 days and disperse the samagri in water after that.small prayogs are not for beginners. i have not yet met a single person who got up and chanted a few mala one fine day and changed his life drastically. there has to be a regualr regime. it is a new way of life and that alone will work. we chant guru, chetna and gayatri daily. apart from that i have a personal regime where this is followed by 1 mala of a ganapati mantra and then 1 for all 9 planets- brahma muraristripurant...as a mark of respect to them, and to empty my head of teh astrology i filled it with.then i worship my ishta (which is subject to change from time to time:)-but is always form of divine mother. for a beginner, the first sadhana(s) should involve driving away the negative energies. they may take the form of tantra badha -obsessions, possessions, negative planetary influences whatever. they are usually manifestations of our own negative tendencies/thoughts/actions cumulated over time. i think this is very important.my suggestions are bhuvaneshwari or mahakali or shiva simply aum namah shivaaya to start or mrtyunjaya. BUT, then you have to find who appeals to you and what works for you.best wishesjai gurudevanuIn , Kumari J <kumaree1958> wrote:> dear sister,> if u r using the samagri, sent them to me> my adress is:-> > Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea> Major Road> Bois Mangue> Plaine des Papayes> Mauririus> > thanks.> > > > > BT Broadband - Save £80 when you order online today. Hurry! Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be.Jay Gurudev/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 19, 2003 dear dhiraj, first of all thank u for expressing ur veiw uninihibited it is not all that impossible and unrealistic.if u are a shishya nothing is impossible for u.gurudev has said that if u have no darpa and josh in ur life then what is the use of being my shishya.i just follow what he says if he has said conquer death(which has various forms)then i will definately do that if he has said it then how can it be unrealistic. jai gurudev soham , dhiraj sharma <dhiraj4uonly> wrote: > > Dear Friend what do u think that u can win DEATH???? with some small prayog or with some samagri??? Be realistic man, it will pay. Best of luck. > > > devi_bhagat wrote: > --- > > dear brother, > i wasnt so interested in victory over death -i dont think i am > dying for atleast the next 50 years! but then maybe i will perform > it as i have the samagri. i was hoping for something which will make > me a master of my own time efficient and productive as a human being- > -a complete opposite to what i am today. thank you very much in > anycase. > we know each other -- don't we? if you/someone else can provide me > with the other two i will be grateful. especially, the kamroopini > one as i am on 6 month beauty mission these days-starting this > minute:)but then, to stick to it i will have to start the mahakal > sadhana first. > > best wishes and affection, > more some other time > love to all > > jaigurudev > > anu > > > In , tantrasiddhi wrote: > > , devi_bhagat wrote: > > in the river. > > > > > > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the > > > procedure. no clue about any issue. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen, > > if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay > > gutika" then this is the procedure > > february 2003 > > "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and > > mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika > > duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays , > this > > is for victory over death > > accomplished by bhishma pitamah > > > > > > jai gurudev > > soham > > > > > Jay Gurudev > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 21, 2003 if u dont want to perform mahakaal sadhana . its ok. put all sadhana saamagri either ur pooja sthan or drop in water(river). India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 21, 2003 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya saafalya 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp if u r intrested i will tell u process. gaurav shrimali India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2003 sure gaurav, please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please mention the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time etc. no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted a procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will check which mala i have. thank you jai gurudev anu -- - In , gaurav shrimali <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > jay gurudev, > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya saafalya > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp > if u r intrested i will tell u process. > gaurav shrimali > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more.Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2003 -- also gaurav, if you have any sadhan procedure for 1 improving concentration and 2 to get rid of laziness please let me know. and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence? anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures. jaigurudev anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote: > sure gaurav, > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please mention > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time etc. > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted a > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will > check which mala i have. > thank you > jai gurudev > anu > -- > > - In , gaurav shrimali > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > > jay gurudev, > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > saafalya > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp > > if u r intrested i will tell u process. > > gaurav > shrimali > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > more.Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Funny!!! Now, people need sadhana procedures for getting rid of laziness. What would be next? Sadhana procedure for eating food, drinking water and breathing? I am sorry for making fun of it. Get real, brother. God is not going to do everything for you. You must do something for yourself. If you are unable to get rid of laziness, you are not allowed to talk about sadhana procedure. Tantra Shakti mantra_tantra_yantra , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote: > -- > > also gaurav, > if you have any sadhan procedure for > 1 improving concentration > and > 2 to get rid of laziness > please let me know. > > > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence? > anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures. > > > jaigurudev > anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > wrote: > > sure gaurav, > > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please mention > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time etc. > > > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted a > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will > > check which mala i have. > > thank you > > jai gurudev > > anu > > -- > > > > - In , gaurav shrimali > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > > > jay gurudev, > > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > > saafalya > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra > > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp > > > if u r intrested i will tell u process. > > > gaurav > > shrimali > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > > more.Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2003 --- Thank you very much for your comments. I am honored that GUrudev chose to speak to me in your voice when i was making amistake. thanks again. jai gurudev anu In , "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti> wrote: > Funny!!! Now, people need sadhana procedures for getting rid of > laziness. What would be next? Sadhana procedure for eating food, > drinking water and breathing? > > I am sorry for making fun of it. Get real, brother. God is not going > to do everything for you. You must do something for yourself. If you > are unable to get rid of laziness, you are not allowed to talk about > sadhana procedure. > > Tantra Shakti > mantra_tantra_yantra > > , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > wrote: > > -- > > > > also gaurav, > > if you have any sadhan procedure for > > 1 improving concentration > > and > > 2 to get rid of laziness > > please let me know. > > > > > > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last > > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence? > > anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures. > > > > > > jaigurudev > > anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > > wrote: > > > sure gaurav, > > > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please > mention > > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time > etc. > > > > > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted > a > > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will > > > check which mala i have. > > > thank you > > > jai gurudev > > > anu > > > -- > > > > > > - In , gaurav shrimali > > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > > > > jay gurudev, > > > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > > > saafalya > > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting > successintantra > > > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp > > > > if u r intrested i will tell u process. > > > > gaurav > > > shrimali > > > > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages > and > > > more.Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2003 Gaurav, I will specify again, that it is a pleasure that you are chosing to give us sadhana procedures, we otherwise would not have got. But, its just that only Gurudev can give sadhanas and mantras. Even in Gurudham except people like shahtri ji nobody is qualified to give sadhans and mantras and shatry ji does this by contacting Gurudev by telepathy. I myself can vouch on the power of the sadhans given through him. That is why here we always mention the source i.e. the exact issue of MTY or say the sadhana shivir in which the mantra, sadhana procedure was given to us. You mentioned somewhere that you need Gurudev's permission before revealing some sadhana. I asume by this statement that you are close to him. It may either be becuase you are related to him -- a wild guess because of your last name, or are an accomplished sadhak who can contact Gurudev anytime. I myself met such a sadhak who spoke to Gurudev every morning. You are doing all of us a favor and a service to Gurudev we are grateful for that. It will be nice to understand the source -thats all. It is totally up to you whether or not you wish to answer this. If not then, it is totally upto the people here whether they chose to practice what is given without quoting the excat source. I thank you wholeheartedly in advance if i forget to do that later -for the sadhanas you will so kindly type for me. good wishes, and may the common chord that binds us be stronger than the demons inside us in every form. jai gurudev anu > > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last > > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence? > > anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures. > > > > > > jaigurudev > > anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > > wrote: > > > sure gaurav, > > > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please > mention > > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time > etc. > > > > > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted > a > > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will > > > check which mala i have. > > > thank you > > > jai gurudev > > > anu > > > -- > > > > > > - In , gaurav shrimali > > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > > > > jay gurudev, > > > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > > > saafalya > > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting > successintantra > > > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp > > > > if u r intrested i will tell u process. > > > > gaurav > > > shrimali > > > > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages > and > > > more.Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2003 Very Funny!!! If that man has the will to combat the laziness and is asking for help in that field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk sadhna procedure. It is a very easy thing to make fun of people and indeed some of our group members are experts in that. If you cannot help anybody then better not pose like an obstacle for a sain discussion. Now who invented the rule about who is allowed to talk about sadhna and who not? Tantra Shakti probably! Another thing "God is not going to do everything for you" well this statement is not justified as God is doing everything for us and will do everything for us always. Now, there are so many mantra and tantra, some of them given by Lord Shiva and others practiced and tested by our greta ancient sages. These mantras are used in petty matters as well as very complicated issues. If laziness is a problem then there is a solution. Get real brother, don't make fun, if you know too much and think it must be kept for yourself then you are most welcomed! regards, Prakash - tantra_shakti Monday, December 22, 2003 9:56 PM Re: query Funny!!! Now, people need sadhana procedures for getting rid of laziness. What would be next? Sadhana procedure for eating food, drinking water and breathing?I am sorry for making fun of it. Get real, brother. God is not going to do everything for you. You must do something for yourself. If you are unable to get rid of laziness, you are not allowed to talk about sadhana procedure.Tantra Shaktimantra_tantra_yantra--- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote:> --> > also gaurav,> if you have any sadhan procedure for > 1 improving concentration > and > 2 to get rid of laziness> please let me know.> > > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence?> anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures.> > > jaigurudev> anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > wrote:> > sure gaurav,> > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please mention > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time etc.> > > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted a > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will > > check which mala i have.> > thank you > > jai gurudev> > anu> > --> > > > - In , gaurav shrimali > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote:> > > jay gurudev,> > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > > saafalya > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra> > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp> > > if u r intrested i will tell u process.> > > gaurav > > shrimali> > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > > more.Download now.Jay Gurudev/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2003 > If that man has the will to combat the > laziness and is asking for help in that > field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk > sadhna procedure. Will power is everything. Without will power, you can't properly do you routine works let alone doing sadhanas. If that person had the will to combat laziness, he/she would not be asking for sadhanas to get rid of it. I was trying to explain to him/her that you can't expect mantras/god/gurudev to do everything for you. Sure, I made fun of him/her; but, apologized at the same time. Maybe, you forgot to read and understand the whole message. > It is a very easy thing to make fun of people > and indeed some of our group members are > experts in that. If you cannot help anybody > then better not pose like an obstacle for > a sain discussion. I am extremely sorry for that. > Now who invented the rule about who is allowed > to talk about sadhna and who not? Tantra Shakti > probably! I am sorry again. > Another thing "God is not going to do everything > for you" well this statement is not justified as > God is doing everything for us and will do > everything for us always. Certainly, you are not a disciple of Nikhileshwaranand otherwise you would never have said that. But, if you are, it's a pity that you failed to understand the teachings of our guru. Once again, God is not going to do everything for you. > These mantras are used in petty matters as > well as very complicated issues. If laziness > is a problem then there is a solution. Then please, share the solution with us. There must also be mantras for not making fun of people and not pose like an obstacle for a sain discussion and getting evrything from god/guru without doing anything. I am sure, you have those mantras and I would be delighted to have them. Please, be kind and share them with this group. > if you know too much and think it must be kept > for yourself then you are most welcomed! I wish, I knew a little bit about becoming one with my Guru. I would be wasting my time in this filthy body and in this mortal world. Maybe, you could give me a good sadhana procedure to become one with my Guru in a second. In that case, I'll worship you a just as I worship my Guru. Thanks for you kind words and sorry once again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Hi Will power is everything, yes it is. That person had the will to ask (not just sit there and wait to get rid of laziness). He knows that he has a problem of laziness, he is looking for a solution to that. you reply was not a solution! well sadhnas and mantras are better given by a Guru and as you already have a Guru then you must ask your Guru who will surely help you. Isnt it funny, that you can hurt someone and immediately say you are sorry! If you knew that your words will be followed by "sorry" then it surely means you are trying to make fun and hurt someone deliberately. You are a disciple of Guru Nikhileshwaranand, it is a good thing, but that does not give you the license to make fun of anyone! I don't think Gurudev would agree with your insulting and fun making attitudes. I wish to point out that your "funny" replies will deter people to ask for a solution to their problems in the future. You are aspiring to become one with the Guru, your asipration is of high standard, but first try to understand people and their problems and then if you think you can help mankind, do it. the one who think about himself and his own aspiration all the time, is not doing any good for mankind. Help mankind first and then if you have some time remaining then help yourself. If you maintain that God is not going to do everything for us, then i wish to point out that up to now, everything that i did and achieved is due to the grace of God. He is doing everything for me and i am very much grateful to Him. God does everything. If YOU think YOU are doing what YOU are doing then YOU and your attituides/replies are of the same standard which need an uplifting. Talk to Gurudev about it! A simple mantra for not making fun of others is "to start making fun of yourself" and using the mirror to see what your problems are, before making comments on others. Every piece of your replies are insulting, why don't you make a print out and have someone (maybe your Guru) give their independent opinion on what you wrote. Mr tantra shakti, you seems to have a problem, ask the Gurudev to show you the right path. There are some people who admit they have a problem while there are others who do not admit at all. They think they have attain perfection alreaday. Kind regards and i am not sorry for anything that i have written here! Prakash - tantra_shakti Wednesday, December 24, 2003 11:14 AM Re: query > If that man has the will to combat the> laziness and is asking for help in that> field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk> sadhna procedure.Will power is everything. Without will power, you can't properly do you routine works let alone doing sadhanas. If that person had the will to combat laziness, he/she would not be asking for sadhanas to get rid of it. I was trying to explain to him/her that you can't expect mantras/god/gurudev to do everything for you. Sure, I made fun of him/her; but, apologized at the same time. Maybe, you forgot to read and understand the whole message.> It is a very easy thing to make fun of people> and indeed some of our group members are> experts in that. If you cannot help anybody> then better not pose like an obstacle for> a sain discussion.I am extremely sorry for that.> Now who invented the rule about who is allowed> to talk about sadhna and who not? Tantra Shakti> probably!I am sorry again.> Another thing "God is not going to do everything> for you" well this statement is not justified as> God is doing everything for us and will do> everything for us always.Certainly, you are not a disciple of Nikhileshwaranand otherwise you would never have said that. But, if you are, it's a pity that you failed to understand the teachings of our guru.Once again, God is not going to do everything for you.> These mantras are used in petty matters as> well as very complicated issues. If laziness> is a problem then there is a solution.Then please, share the solution with us. There must also be mantras for not making fun of people and not pose like an obstacle for a sain discussion and getting evrything from god/guru without doing anything. I am sure, you have those mantras and I would be delighted to have them. Please, be kind and share them with this group.> if you know too much and think it must be kept> for yourself then you are most welcomed!I wish, I knew a little bit about becoming one with my Guru. I would be wasting my time in this filthy body and in this mortal world. Maybe, you could give me a good sadhana procedure to become one with my Guru in a second. In that case, I'll worship you a just as I worship my Guru.Thanks for you kind words and sorry once again.Jay Gurudev/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 25, 2003 first u have to clear what sadhana u want to accomplish. gaurav shrimali India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 25, 2003 " jab sadhak yah nishchay kar leta hai ki muze is jivan main hi poorta praapt kar leni hai aur jis prakar se ek machali bina paani ke rah hi nahi paati, jis prakar se ek shisya bina guru ke jivan ki kalpana hi nahi kar pata . aur nirantar is tathya ka chintan karata hai ki kaise mere ek ek kshann ka upyog sadhana hatu ho . yah nishchay hi manusya ko devtva se yukt banaataa hai." u have to perform chetana mantra sadhana. gaurav shrimali India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 25, 2003 sorry but u can't say it funny. because of laziness can be result of past sins, tanra prayog or shaap. gaurav India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 25, 2003 > Isnt it funny, that you can hurt someone and > immediately say you are sorry! If you could calm down for a second and read my post again, you may understand what I meant. You may understand what was the motive behind that fun making. I know devi_bhagat very well. I know for sure that she (yes, she; I always knew that) is hard working person, a great shishya of Swami Nikhileshwaranand (no matter whether she admits or not) and my sister. The name of Swami Nikhileshwaranand is enough to energize the entire universe still his shishya is looking for a mantra to loose laziness. So, was I making fun of devi_bhagat or was telling her not to make fun of her and my Guru? And no, I am not asking for your judgement. Initial, I thought that you were a high level sadhak; that's why I wrote a personal, sorry mail to you. Now, i regret that. In the mantra_tantra group, I wrote you making fun of some pbfsg over some mantra. I surely made a mistake though unknowingly. I was careless about choosing my words. I've been in this group right from it's conception and I know, that real sadhaks like Arvind Sharma and Anurag Goel have taken back seats. Maybe, it is time for me to follow them. Devi_bhagat has been trying to tell me just that for a long time. I am sorry devi_bhagat, I should have listened to you. But, no harm done. > If you knew that your words will be followed > by "sorry" then it surely means you are trying > to make fun and hurt someone deliberately. You are free to think what you wish. Is laughing banned here? It has been done here before and it will be done here again. There is nothing wrong is laughing and on something that should be laughed on. Had I known that Mr. Vishwa Dev is going to use my joke against me because I had kicked him out of my group, then I wouldn't have done it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
