Guest guest Report post Posted March 15, 2003 dear gurubhais please care to give guidance iam in a strange situation i had severe mental and physical illness for so many years i could hardly go out of my house.luckily icame into contact of a college student who accidentally got naga and yakshini siddhi.he said that my anscestors were worshippers of a godess (kula devata) and now the family tree is scattered and no one worships the godess thats why she is angry and causing these trouble.he said i have to gather all of the family members and do pooja but it is virtually impossible to gather all of them and do pooja(we have lost contact).i dont know why i should suffer for mistakes my anscestors have done after some time i came to know of a elderly woman who was a devotee of a particular devi and had siddhi she told me that she will not be able to help me.because it was the anger of our housediety.she told that i have to go to my native place and pour milk over the statue and even this is a temporary remedy. i have developed a hatred for that devi because of the hell i have suffered all these years.i feel why should i worship such godess who inspite of being our housediety troubled me so much. i cant figure out what hideous mistake my anscestors have done that the devi is so angry.i feel they have done something else other than stopping worship. if i do sadhana will the devi get more angry on me because sadhanas will destroy shaktis which hurt me. i dont want to hurt the diety(may be i can't/can) because my anscestors have worshipped her for a long time looking upon her as mother.after i finished veer sadhana after two days i started coughing voilently and x-ray showed that i had puss in my lungs is it just a co-incidence or the devis wrath. please please please try to help me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2003 OM Hey Mercury man, Seeing your mail, I had pity on you because it is true the wrath of your kula devatha's is on your family , especially on you. There are certain things which no Hindu should forget, First of all, it is our Kula devatha who is guarding us Whether the Diety is He or She , they will save whenever you are in trouble, this will happen only when you consciously do pooja. I have personally seen so many people who have forgotten their Kuladevatha like you and facing one or the other problem. Please do remember that it is your Kula devatha who will help you in any kind of Spiritual and Material Prosperity. Whenever you or your family members ignore naturally or deliberately, one has to face problems like yours !!! If you ask how it is, then the KARMAS comes in picture, as you may aware that SANJITHA, PRABRABTHA, AKAMYA karmas baggages we are carrying and due to Prabrabtha karma it is everyones' duty to perform Kula devatha pooja wherever the deity is irrespective of the distance . Ofcourse, now you need to gather family member which seems to be difficult in your case, you can pray MANASEEKA to Kuladevatha about inability to make it. She will certainly listen to it. Ultimately, it is her shakti which made you to understand through somebody , that your kuladevatha pooja is due isn't it...! Hence, donot hate or ignore kuladevatha, instead whatever pooja (pouring milk , feeding poor infront of the deity etc) should be conducted on any auspicious day immediately , you can see that things are going good !!! Donot expect that the deity will look out for all of your family members, when there is a will , there is a way, which I am sure your kula devatha will understand and probably start "testing" them :-) HENCE, DO THE POOJA AT THE EARLIEST and Satisfy Her ! Start getting Her Blessings. And also, remember that every year ( especially during the Amavasya /Pournami which falls on Monday or Friday )is an auspicious for kuladevatha pooja during which you have to perform Abhisheka and feeding as much as poor people to be conducted so that your Kula Devatha's blessings are guranteed to all your family members !!! You take initiative , rest She will Take care of ! Whatever I have told is being done by myself to my Kuladevatha every year and I constantly get her blessings !!! This is Divine Wish and Order . So, a HINDU must know who is his Kula Devatha , Goth Rishi and the importance of Karmic factors. One they start thinking in this angle, through various Sadhanas they can overcome their bad karma and by doing Arkya pooja , they can get Gothra Rishis blessings and by performing the Kula Devatha pooja atleast once in a year, their Generations will be blessed and all Spiritual and Material progress will be assured !!! With best regards, Ramkumar ______________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, TV. visit http://in.tv. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2003 Dear Mercuryman, I have done my humble attempt to address your problem in a Question- Answer form. Hope it will be of some help to you. regards ====================================================================== == dear gurubhais please care to give guidance iam in a strange situation i had severe mental and physical illness for so many years i could hardly go out of my house.luckily icame into contact of a college student who accidentally got naga and yakshini siddhi.he said that my anscestors were worshippers of a godess (kula devata) and now the family tree is scattered and no one worships the godess thats why she is angry and causing these trouble. THIS IS THE COMMONEST PROBLEM FACED BY MANY PEOPLE NOWADAYS. ONLY A FEW LUCKY PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO REALISE THE REASON. THE PRIMARY REASON IS THAT WE FORGET OUR "SWADHARMA" i.e., OUR FAMILY CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS THAT WERE FOLLOWED SINCE LONG. EVERY SOUL TAKES BIRTH IN A PARTICULAR FAMILY & ENVIRONMENT ACCORDING TO HIS PREVIOUS LIFE'S DEEDS. SO ONE IS BOUND TO FIRST FOLLOW HIS "SWADHARMA". LORD KRISHNA HAS SAID THUS IN THE GITA: shrEyAn swadharmO vigunah paradharmAth swanushtitAt | swadharmE nidhanam shrEyah paradharmO bhayAvaH || -Gita 3rd chapter (Karmayoga), 35th verse ALSO THE SHASTRAS DECLARE: " Aachaarah prathamO dharmah " - ( family tradition is prime duty ) "KULA DEVATA" , AS THE NAME ITSELF IMPLIES, IS THE DEITY WHICH PROTECTS THE FAMILY AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROGENY. ACTUALLY THERE WILL BE ONE MALE GOD AND A FEMALE GOD FOR EVERY FAMILY. THE MALE GOD IS CALLED THE "KULA DEVA(TA)" AND THE FEMALE GOD IS CALLED THE "KULAMBIKA". ON ALL RELIGIOUS OCCASSIONS, BE IT ANY PUJA OR MARRIAGE ETC, THIS KULA DEVATA IS WORSHIPPED FIRST. TO PUT IT CORRECTLY, ONE'S "KULA DEVATA" IS HIS "KARMA DEVATA". FORGETTING THIS WILL SURELY LEAD TO MANY OBSTACLES/PROBLEMS IN ONE'S LIFE. IF NOTHING IS DONE TO CORRECT THIS, THE FAMILY TREE MAY STOP GROWING AFTER A FEW GENERATIONS. YOUR "KULA DEVATA" BEING AGNRY TOWARDS YOU IS OBVIOUS AND QUITE NATURAL. WILL YOU NOT GET ANGRY IF YOUR CHILDREN FORGET/ ABANDON YOU? SO THE MORAL IS : FIRST SEEK THE BLESSINGS OF YOUR "KULADEVATA" ; LATER YOU CAN WORSHIP ANY GOD OF YOUR CHOICE (ISHTA DEVATA) IN THIS BACKGROUND, I FULLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR COLLEGE FRIEND HAS TOLD YOU. SEEK HIS HELP TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOUR "KULA DEVATA" AS REGARDS TO ITS NAME, PLACE (ABODE) AND WHAT IT IS EXACTLY DEMANDING. IF HE IS UNABLE TO TELL YOU THIS, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO FIND OUT. ALSO, TRY TO FIND OUT WHO IS YOUR KULA-RISHI (GOTRA RISHI). YOUR KULA-RISHI WILL GUIDE YOU IN ALL YOUR PURSUITS AND ENDEAVOURS. he said i have to gather all of the family members and do pooja but it is virtually impossible to gather all of them and do pooja(we have lost contact). WELL, PERSONALLY I FEEL THERE IS NO NEED TO GATHER ALL. YOU DO YOUR DUTY. FOR SURE, THE GOOD DEEDS OF ONE PERSON IN A FAMILY WILL PROTECT OTHERS ALSO. SIMILARLY, BAD DEEDS OF A PERSON WILL AFFECT THE WHOLE FAMILY. SINCE YOU ARE BEING AFFECTED MOST, WE CAN CONCLUDE THAT YOU OWE MORE TO YOUR " KULA DEVATA". i dont know why i should suffer for mistakes my anscestors have done THIS IS A STRANGE QUESTION. WHO ELSE WILL SUFFER IF NOT YOU? WILL YOU NOT ENJOY THE WEALTH/ASSETS CREATED BY YOUR ANCESTORS ? (assume). DON'T FORGET THAT YOU HAD TAKEN MANY BIRTHS PREVIOUSLY AND WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE BIRTHS AFTER THIS LIFE ALSO. WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTHS? YOU MIGHT HAVE BORN SEVERAL TIMES IN YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTHS IN THIS SAME FAMILY. USUALLY, THE GRANDSON WILL BEAR THE FRUITS OF HIS GRAND FATHERS' ACTIONS. IT IS LARGELY BELIEVED THAT THE GRANDSON IS THE REINCARNATION OF GRAND FATHER. I MY SELF HAVE SEEN MANY SUCH INCIDENTS. after some time i came to know of a elderly woman who was a devotee of a particular devi and had siddhi she told me that she will not be able to help me.because it was the anger of our housediety.she told that i have to go to my native place and pour milk over the statue and even this is a temporary remedy. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE THING CLEAR TO YOU IN PARTICULAR AND OTHER SADHAKS IN THIS GROUP IN GENERAL. ATTAINING SIDDHIS IS GOOD BUT LACK OF PROPER UNDERSTANDING/KNOWLEDGE OF THE SHASTRAS WILL PRODUCE DISASTOROUS RESULTS. OFTEN SUCH SIDDHIS ARE USELESS IN THAT THEY CANNOT GIVE YOU PEACE OF MIND IN LIFE. JUST DOING SOME PUJA THAT TOO IN AN IMPROPER WAY (WRONG CHANTING OF MANTRAS AND PROCEDURES) WILL ONLY COMPLICATE THE MATTER. BECAUSE THE GODDESS IS FORGOTTEN SINCE LONG, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THE IDOL IS MUTILATED (BHINNAH), AND ANY PUJA DONE TO SUCH AN IDOL WILL ONLY BRING YOU DISASTOROUS RESULTS. I FEEL VERY SORRY AT THIS POINT. RECENTLY I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRAVEL TO SOME OF THE HOLIEST PLACES IN NORTH INDIA. WHAT I OBSERVED DURING MY PILGRIMAGE IS THAT THERE IS LOT OF BHAKTHI AND SHRADDAH AMONGST THE PEOPLE OF NORTH INDIA, BUT THEIR CHANTING OF SANSKRIT MANTRAS IS VERY MUCH WRONG. EVEN THE PRIESTS AND PUNDITS DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE THE SLIGHTEST KNOWLEDGE. IT IS BETTER NOT TO SAY ABOUT THE PROCEDURES THEY FOLLOW. i have developed a hatred for that devi because of the hell i have suffered all these years.i feel why should i worship such godess who inspite of being our housediety troubled me so much. i cant figure out what hideous mistake my anscestors have done that the devi is so angry.i feel they have done something else other than stopping worship. if i do sadhana will the devi get more angry on me because sadhanas will destroy shaktis which hurt me. i dont want to hurt the diety(may be i can't/can) because my anscestors have worshipped her for a long time looking upon her as mother.after i finished veer sadhana after two days i started coughing voilently and x-ray showed that i had puss in my lungs is it just a co-incidence or the devis wrath. please please please try to help me THERE IS NO USE IN HATING SOMETHING. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE SOLEY RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PLIGHT. WELL, DON'T GET DISHEARTENED. THINK THAT THE DEVI HAS CAUTIONED YOU AND SHOWN A WAY OUT OF YOUR SUFFERINGS. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY SHE HAS PROVIDED YOU TO TURN TO SPIRITUALISM. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO RECALL GURUDEV NARAYAN DUTT SHRIMALI'S WORDS THAT WHEN ALL MATERIALISTC SCIENCES FAIL, SPIRITUALITY BEGINS TO ANSWER. SHE IS YOUR MOTHER. HOW CAN YOU HATE YOUR OWN MOTHER? DON'T BE STUBBORN. SURRENDER TO HER WITH LOVE. PRAY TO HER WITH DEVOTION. LET THE VERY MENTION OF HER NAME BRING TEARS OF JOY. SHE WILL SURELY FORGIVE ALL YOUR SINS AND HELP YOU. PLEASE FORGET ALL TANTRA/MANTRA/SADHANA FOR A WHILE. COME OUT OF THAT MINDSET AND BECOME A CHILD IN FRONT OF HER. FIRST DEVELOP LOVE AND DEVOTION TOWARDS HER. YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG IF YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN CONQUER THE GODS WITH MANTRAS. THAT IS THE WAY FOR THE DEMONS (RAKSHASAS). MANTRAS BRING INFINITE RESULTS ONLY IF YOU HAVE DEVOTION. THIS IS THE TEACHING OF THE GREAT ADI SHANKARACHARYA. VEER SADHANA IS NOT GOOD FOR ORDINARY PEOPLE. IT HAS TO BE PRACTICED ONLY UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF AN ABLE GURU. MANY ILLIGITAMATE PRACTICES HAVE ENTERED IT IN COURSE OF TIME. NON-VEDIC PATHS WILL ONLY SPOIL YOU. I HAVE BEEN TELLING THIS TO MANY EVEN THOUGH THEY DISLIKE IT. NO SADHANA WILL WORK FOR YOU, UNTIL YOU COME OUT OF YOUR "KULADEVATA"s WRATH. TO CONCLUDE, I WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE YOU THE FOLLOWING: 1. CONSULT A VEDIC ASTROLOGER/PUNDIT WHO IS ADEPT IN THE MANTRA SHASTRA. USUALLY "SHRI VIDYA" UPASAKAS (SHRI VIDYA SADHAKS) WILL BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH SUCH CASES. DON'T FALL INTO THE FALSE TRAP OF MANTRIKS AND TANTRIKS AND SPOIL YOUR LIFE. THOUGH THEY MIGHT GIVE YOU TEMPORARY SOLACE, IN THE LONG RUN, YOU WILL LOOSE. 2. A SHANTI HOMAM IS VERY MUCH ESSENTIAL. ORDINARY PUJAS WILL NOT HELP YOU. THE FOLLOWING RITUALS (HAVANS) WILL SURELY BRING THE DESIRED RESULT: A) VIRAJA HOMAM B) PAAPA NIVARAKA HOMAM (YAGNIYA NARAYANAM – YAJURVEDA ) C) PRAAYASCHITTA GANA HOMAM D) MAATRU GANA HOMAM E) GAYATHRI HOMAM ( 10,000 OBLATIONS OF TIL MIXED WITH GHEE) THE FIRST THREE HAVANS (A,B&C) WASHES AWAY THE SINS THAT YOU AND YOUR ANCESTORS MIGHT HAVE COMMITTED IN PREVIOUS BIRTHS. THE FOURTH HAVAN (D) CALMS DOWN YOUR "KULADEVATA" AND SECURES YOU HER BLESSINGS. THE LAST ONE, GAYATHRI HOMAM IS FOR OVERALL PROTECTION, PROSPERITY AND PROGRESS. ALL GODS GET APPEASED BY PERFORMING THE GAYATHRI HAVAN. THE RITUAL MAY BE DISTRIBUTED FOR 3 DAYS: FIRST DAY - A ,B & C SECOND DAY – D THIRD DAY – E THE DHYANA MANTRA FOR THE GODDESS IS: chaturbhujAm pItavasthrAm raktha pankaja lOchanAm | sarvadA varadA bhImAm sarvAlamkAra bhUshitAm || yOgIndra sEvitAm nityam yOginI yOga rUpiNIm | chaturvarga pradAm dEvIm nAgahArOpa shObhitAm || THE AVAHAN MANTRA IS: Agachcha mad gruhE dEvI saha shaktibhih ashtabhih | pUjAm gruhANa vidhivat sarva kalyANa hEtave || ALL THE BEST. JAI JAGADAMBA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2003 dear gurubhai shriram, i thank u from the bottom of my heart.your answer was exhaustive and very very enlightening for me.some days ago i talked to the photo of chinnamasta and slept and in my dream i saw a lady clad in white saree giving me a rosary i humbly took the rosary and said "amma"(mother) and she replied saying that if u are saying "amma" then give the rosary back .i said no no and took the rosary back.she had a flouruscent pink tinge around her mouth.at that time i coudnt realise the meaning but after reading ur message i realise that may be as u said she is a true mother indeed she wants me to get rid of my problem either by doing sadhana or by surrendering to her shelter.i have also observed that she also tries to protect me and people who had tried to harm me also start suffering from the same problem which i suffer.i was a very very unspiritual person may be she is confining me only to my home by problems so that i can sit in house and do sadhana instead of blindly going after worldly persuits.all the pieces of puzzle falling into the right place because of gurudevs grace. yesterday my aunt who came to my house after along time surprisingly told me that our kulambikaa is called SARWESHWARI. I have never come across this name kindly tell me if u know.she also said that she had consulted someone who has said that this problem is suffered by all the male generation in the family and one of the boy born in this family will solve this problem permenantly.every one seems to pridict accurately but no one is able to give exact solution. as i am newly introduced to mantra tantra vigyaan i dont have the ritual of sarweshwari dear members if gurudev have given the ritual of sarweshwari devi in any of the back issues please help hearty thanks to shriram once again jay nikhileshwaranand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
