Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2000 JAY GURUDEV- respected gurubhais and sisters jay gurudev. i wanted to know that poojya sadgurugi before going to siddhashram had trained our gurubhais in some special field of different sadhana and procedures. i wanted to know that is there any gurubhai who has mastered in the science of sammhon and hyptonism? if there is any gurubhai who is trained or know this science very well can help lot of our gurubhais suffering from various problems, please give me a reply fast. hope of full cooperation from all of you. pujya sadguruji ki jay pujya trimurti guruji ki jay vadnani mataji ki jay siddhashram sadhak parivar ki jay from vishal patel pune . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2000 Dear Vishal, JAI GURUDEV Your anxiety to know about the gurubhais who have achieved comlete success in Sammohan and hytonism is correct, to some extent, as you may be new in this sadhana field. It is a FACT that a lot many number of our gurubhais have achieved the complete success in different sadhnas including Sammohan and hypnotysm and they are progressing further in different different fields as per the instructions of Gurudevji. Success is achieved after great devotion and with the blessing of Gurudevji, hence it is the first and prime most responsibility of such gurubhais to act as per the Gurudevji's advice and such gurubhais must have been involved in helping others for whom they are getting signals from Gurudevji. Secondly you are concerned about the help to other gurubhais in solving their problems. Here, I would say that it is the Pride, Gaurav, Bhagya of our Generation that we have Sakshat Trimurti Gurudevs to guide/advice us and take us away from any sort of our problems. When Sakshat Gurudevs are there, I feel, one should not even think of anyone to solve our problems. NIKHILESHWAR BHAGWAN KI JAI Mohan Rathore Jaipur - vishalpatel18 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com Saturday, December 23, 2000 2:57 PM sammhon&hyptonism JAY GURUDEV-respected gurubhais and sistersjay gurudev. i wanted to know that poojya sadgurugibefore going to siddhashram had trained our gurubhais in some special field of different sadhana and procedures. i wanted to know that is there any gurubhaiwho has mastered in the science of sammhon and hyptonism? if there is any gurubhai who is trained or know this science very well can help lot of our gurubhais suffering from various problems, please give me a reply fast. hope of full cooperation from all of you. pujya sadguruji ki jay pujya trimurti guruji ki jay vadnani mataji ki jay siddhashram sadhak parivar ki jayfrom vishal patelpune. Jay Gurudev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2000 jay gurudev respected mohan sir. thanks for yr advice and guidence. the answer given by u was satisfactory but i think that if some gurubhais can solve the problems of other gurubhais then it is not worth to discuss small problems with poojya guruji. i am telling this with according to my view but if i am mistaken then i am sorry and please give me future more guidence. vishal patel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 24, 2000 Dear Vishal, JAI GURUDEV You are not at all mistaken. We all the members of International Sidhasharam Sadhak Parivar are learing a lot and learing the way of life from Gurudevji and we are to help not only among ourselves but to guide and show a way to whole society. I had already told that successful gurubhais must be helping others for whom they must be getting signals. The whole tantra and maya of Gurudevji is such that the gurubhai, who is in need of help, gets help definitely, may it be from gurubhai or someone else. As regard to small problems, you are very right that we must not discuss with poojya Gurudevs because Poojya Gurudevs have given a Guru Mantra which is known as Maha Mantra. If we sincerely do Guru Mantra Sadhana, I am sure, not only the small problems but bigger problems of our lives can also be solved permanently. Poojya Gurudevs have time and again told that we should not believe in chamatkar which is done automatically. Rather we should believe in Karma and for us karma means Sadhna besides carrying out our social obligations/responsibilities. If we do our Karma means regular sadhana and fulfilling our social obligations/responsibilities, then there will not any small or big problem in our life. NIKHILESHWAR BHAGWAN KI JAI - vishalpatel18 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com Sunday, December 24, 2000 10:49 AM Re: sammhon&hyptonism jay gurudevrespected mohan sir. thanks for yr advice and guidence. the answer given by u was satisfactory but i think that if some gurubhais can solve the problems of other gurubhais then it is not worth to discuss small problems with poojya guruji. i am telling this with according to my view but if i am mistaken then i am sorry and please give me future more guidence. vishal patelJay Gurudev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 27, 2000 Dear Vishalbhai, Jai Gurudev Mohanji is very correct. You should always discuss all your problems with Pujya Trimurti Gurudev only and take Their advice. A lot of Gurubhais claim that they have mastered so&so sadhana, but mastering one (or even a couple of) Sadhana(s) is not everything. Sadhanas are very elementary entities. As Pujya Sadgurudev said in one Pravachan that " attaining success in Sadhanas is something like a child learning basic alphabets.. Sadhanas are basic alpahabets. And when one gets a bit of success in Sadhana, one starts showing it off to fellow humans like a child starts writing the basic alphabets on all walls as soon as he learns them". It is very easy to impress others by showing some "miracles" and proclaim oneself as master. Anyone can do it by getting some success in any Sadhana. A lot of people have done more greater harm to themselves by taking help and advice of these so-called experts. It is something akin to " a blind leading the lame". A blind Guru can only teach about blindness leading to darkness of ignorance. And even Guru Gita says that one should discuss all the issues with one's Gurudev only and follow only Gurudev's advice. So , my advice will be to contact the pujya Trimurti Gurudevs directly to resolve the problems etc. Do not depend on such "masters" of sammohan and hypnotism. Take Diksha from Gurudev, and perform Sadhana to become a master yourself in these. Pujya Gurudev has given very durlabh (extremely hard to get), and powerful Dikshas to us. Let us not abuse these powerful Dikshas by turning to other "masters". Let us fulfil His dreams and make use of these Dikshas by performing Sadhanas. Jai Gurudev vishalpatel18@h otmail.com cc: 23/12/00 09:27 sammhon&hyptonism Please respond to JAY GURUDEV- respected gurubhais and sisters jay gurudev. i wanted to know that poojya sadgurugi before going to siddhashram had trained our gurubhais in some special field of different sadhana and procedures. i wanted to know that is there any gurubhai who has mastered in the science of sammhon and hyptonism? if there is any gurubhai who is trained or know this science very well can help lot of our gurubhais suffering from various problems, please give me a reply fast. hope of full cooperation from all of you. pujya sadguruji ki jay pujya trimurti guruji ki jay vadnani mataji ki jay siddhashram sadhak parivar ki jay from vishal patel pune . Jay Gurudev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
