Mata Sita in Ramayanam

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Ramaya Rama Bhadraya Ramachandraya Vedase

Raghunathaya Nathaya Seetaya Pataye Namah

Asmad Gurubhyon Namah.

My Koti Pranams to Vishnu Bhakthas.

You can find Lord Sri Hari every where,

but rearly you come across Vishnu

Bhaktas, so say the great Saints .

 

Dear Vishnu Bhaktha Srinivasa Iyengar /Sampige

srinivasa

What a nice question why did Lord Rama

ask Sita Matha to do agnipravesham.

This has haunted me also, you feel very

sad to hear this in Ramayana.

With my very little knowledge

I would like to convince you(and myself)

On the following lines:

1) First of all Agni is subservient

to Matha Sita who is the Avathar of

Mahalakshmi.As per Hierarchy of

Gods as laid down by the great

Vasihnava Saint Sri Madhwacharya,

Vishnu is Sarvottama, next comes lakshmi

than Chaturmukha Brahma and so on.

God Agni comes much below in the

Hierarchy of Gods. Hence Agni is

totally incapable of even touching

Sita Matha, forget of burning her,

He can no where go near her.

This is all a drama enacted by Lord

Sri Rama and Matha Sita, just to show

The world, that a king should be

Sensitive to his Prajas(Subordinates).

Keeping this in mind, the lord

Ordered Matha Sita to do Agni Pravesham.

2) Lord Vishnu’s Lilas are Achinthya

and Adbhutha. Which simply means

beyond the Comprehension of common

man. At times you need to think impassionately

to understand these Intricacies.

3)There is one more incident in

Maharabharatha, about which one

feels emotional. When Karna’s

Chariot is stuck in the mud, he requests

Arjuna to stop the war, so that he can

set right his chariot. But Lord SriKrishna

orders Arjuna to kill the helpless Karna,

which Arjuna does it.

This also has to be thought in the

right perspective to arrive at the right

conclusions.

I hope my clarification will help you

in analyzing things.

Pranams

NS Gururaj

Bangalore

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sri Srinivasa Iyengar,

 

Let me provide some inputs to your questions,

according to what I have read and from what I can

remember about the topics on Sita’s fire ordeal and

banishment.

 

The episode on the slaying of Vali, the brother of

Sugriva Maharaj in Kishkinda kanda, Sita’s fire ordeal

in Yuddha Kanda, plus banishment of Sita in Uttara

Kanda are the 3 of most debated issuses/topics in

Ramayana.

 

In this aspect, we need to make clear distinctions

between what was written by Valmiki Muni, Srila Vyasa

and other arcaryas. Let me answer your question based

on Valmiki Ramayana (original Ramayana) and Adhyatma

Ramayana (said to be part of Brahmanda Purana).

 

Valmiki Muni presented the human aspect of Lord

Ramachandra while recognizing him as the Supreme Lord

himself, while Srila Vyasa presented Lord Ramachandra

directly as the Supreme Lord. Valmiki Ramayana (24,000

verses) is like an ocean of ethical teachings and

spiritual instructions whereby the reader has to dive

into the ocean to find the gems, whereas Adhyatma

Ramayana (8000 verses if I am not mistaken) is like a

lake with crystal clear water through which the gems

are easily seen.

 

Based on Adhyatma Ramayana, Sita knows that she will

be kidnapped by Ravana and Ravana knows that he will

be killed by Rama. Both Ravana and his brother

Kumbakarna were Hiranyaksa and Hiranyakasipu in their

previous birth. They were both Jaya and Vijaya cursed

by the four Kumaras.

 

Rama knows that Sita will be kidnapped so he told the

Sita (real Sita) to enter the fire and from the fire

Maya Sita (Vedavati who cursed Ravana she will be

reborn for his destruction) appeared. So in Aranya

Kanda the person kidnapped by Ravana was not the real

Sita but maya Sita. The fact of Maya Sita not the

real Sita being taken away by Ravana is mentioned in

other puranas such as Kurma purana, Varaha purana and

Agni-purana. Even Ravana did not even touch the maya

Sita, as he took the entire block of earth which she

stood. He was cursed by Nalakubera that if Ravana

touches any woman without her consent his 10 heads

will burst.

 

So after killings of Kumbakarna, Indrajit and Ravana,

the war ended and Lord Rama rescused maya Sita and at

that time (of the fire ordeal), Agni took the maya

Sita and returned the real Sita. Rama had to sent the

maya Sita to Agni to be united with the real Sita.

 

Lord Rama never doubted Sita, the fire ordeal serves 2

purposes, to get back the real Sita and to prove to

the public that Sita is indeed pure.

 

Regarding Sita’s banishment, in Uttara Kanda, Lord

Ramachandra demonstrated, the ideal king should look

at the interest of the country that his own personal

interest. Remember that Lord Rama, belong to line of

Ishvaku, Harichandra, Aja and etc where the kings even

willing to sacrifice their own life to uphold dharma.

Even Lord Rama oonce said to Sita in Aranya kandam

that he was willing to give up Laksamana, Sita and his

own life to uphold dharma. It was the conflict between

the duty of the king and duty as the husband. Well,

what would you do if you were caught in that position?

It was not an easy decision to make. Even in modern

days, in management of organization a classical

management writer by the name of Henri Fayol in one of

his 14 principles of management said the individual

interest must be subordinate to organizational

interest.

 

So Lord Ramachandra as an ideal king and leader need

to set good example. Even in Gita Chapter 3, Lord

Krisna says whatever actions of a great man will be

followed by people in general.

 

Many many years ago I recall watching an old tamil

movie called Lava and Kusa. I am sure in India, since

you are in Bangalore the movie should available.

 

I hope it helps. Other arcaryas / bhagavathas

especially Mr Hari Krishnan who writes about Ramayana

in www.chennaionline.com can give more inputs/points

on the above topic.

 

Regards

 

Bala

Penang, Malaysia

http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/District/9622/resbala.html

 

 

--- sampige srinivasa <sampiges wrote:

> Poojya Bhagavatare,

> I have and I think many have this suspicion in the

> events at the end of

> Ramayana. Why did Rama the Purshottama, doubted on

> Sita(Avatar of

> MahaLakshmi) and asked her to do Agnipravesham and

> in the Uttarakaandam why

> he sent Sita to the forest hearing the words of a

> common man. Many and even

> I think that this is not ethical.

>

> This is a sensitive issue for Women. Many women

> critisice Lord Rama for this

> act. Please can someone Known give some

> clarification on this, so that I can

> defend Lord Rama's act.

>

> Om Namo Narayanaaya

> Om Sri Melukote CheluvanarayanaSwamy Namaha

>

> Sharanam

> Srinivasa Iyengar

> Bangalore

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My Humble Pranamams to Bhagavathas.

 

I thank you all for your explanation on this doubt.

 

So I am in the right group whom I can contact to clear my doubts regarding

Dharma, Adhyatma etc....

 

Namaskara

Srinivasa Iyengar

Bangalore

 

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>Ramaya Rama Bhadraya Ramachandraya Vedase

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>Asmad Gurubhyon Namah.

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