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Dear Ramesh,

 

You have done it ! Why do you ask if there is none to vote for Nrisimha?

 

Tiru Allik Keni Koil is the home for Nrisimha as well as Parthasarath besides

Ranganatha, Rama and Varada.

 

Please await my next post and you will find that when one mentions Tiru Allik

Keni one votes for Nrisimhan as well - the same Nrisimhan who adorns Ahobilam.

 

While all are welcome to Pomona, it is not necessarily to learn about the

glories of Nrisimha.

 

Dasoham

Anbil Ramaswamy

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Dear Bhagavathas -

 

These days i look forward to opening my email session

and reading all these wonderful posts on "My favorite Divya

Desam". I thank all the participants for sharing these

wonderful insights on the various divya desams (all of

which are our only true "kula dhanam"). However i done have

a sense of disappointment that i would like to share :-)

 

None of the posts so far have voted for Ahobilam as the

most favoured DD. Isn't there a single bhagavatha who

can sing the glory of my dear lord Sri Malolan? Isn't

there one soul who feels

that He should be given the status of "first among equals"??

Is my dear lord bereft of supporters??

 

adiyEn considers himself "akinshnaha" when it comes to

speaking about the glory of Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan, but

is unable to keep quite when every else seems to have

madeup his/her mind (misguided, in my opininon) that someone

else (other than the lord of Singavelkundram) is their

isthadevatha. To all such folks i have one questions :

 

Kaliyan while singing the glory of Azhagiya singar (at

Tiruvalikani) narrates succintly the avathara rahasyam

of Lakshmi Narasimhan and says "Angu Appoyude avan viya

thondriya en singapiran perumai"...meaning "that day

when his parama bhakta, Prahaladan, was in distress,

our Lord came to his rescue in an instant".

 

That same Lord, "Engu eppOyudum" (even now, to this day),

wearing His padukas is going from village to village and

rescuing countless devotees by having samashrayanam and

bharanyasam performed on them under His lotus feet.

 

Show me one other Lord who is doing this ?

 

It is one thing to preach the

charama slokam, but something all together different to execute

it day-in-and-day-out (for all Tiru-alli-kAni vasis :-))

 

Of what use is the sweet smile on the tirumukam of

tiruvenkatamudayan, if i can enjoy it for only a

fraction of a second? (may be a minute...if i can

spare 10 bucks :-))

 

Of what use is even our pEriya

perumal, if he refuses to budge from his "bed"?

 

Devadirajan, ofcourse, standing on Attigiri and holding

his abhaya-hastam is showering His benign glance on

all His devotees. But then it takes just one "dancer"

(Arayar) to snatch away even his darling son (Udayavar).

Prersonally, i would think twice before taking refuge

under such a "vehuli" :-)

 

So friends...maybe now you would like to change your

mind (vote)...its never too late! Well, if you are still not

convinced, just showup at the Longhill township

community center in NJ on the 6th and 7th of September

and we have assembled a galaxy of erudite scholars

who will praise my dear lord, Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan

of Ahobilam, much better than what i have done here.

 

For more information on this function contact

one of either adiyEn, Jagan, Dileepan, Rengarajan,

Anbil Ramaswamy, or Murali Kadambi.

 

adiyEn

Azhayiyasinger dAsan

Ramesh Saranagapani

 

PS : This post is not meant to hurt any ones feeling.

All the members who have posted on the various DD's are

good friends of mine and i have great respect for them.

Please consider adiyEn post as one that is posted in the

spirit of friendship.

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Srimathe Narayanaya Namaha

 

On 8/13/98 9:40 PM

 

Sri Ramesh Sarangapani wrote :

Quote ________

It is one thing to preach the

charama slokam, but something all together different to execute

it day-in-and-day-out (for all Tiru-alli-kAni vasis :-))

Unquote _______

 

Just because we are not able to follow what is said in the Charama

Slokam doesn't mean that the Divya DEsam has lost its prominence. It

is we who should follow what is said in the Charama Slokam. If we are

not following the same, it is no good, be it that we are in

ThiruvallikkENi or Ahobilam or any other Divya DEsam.

 

Quote __________

Of what use is the sweet smile on the tirumukam of

tiruvenkatamudayan, if i can enjoy it for only a

fraction of a second? (may be a minute...if i can

spare 10 bucks :-))

Unquote __________

 

Atleast we can see his smile for a fraction of a second and for a

minute on sparing 10 bucks, but none of us can see the EmberumAns in

Paramapadham and Vaikuntam with this body. Does this mean that they

are of no significance? Once again let me bring

Thondar-adi-podi-AzhwAr in to picture. He says ".. ichchuvai thavira

yAn pOi indhira lOgam ALum, achchuvai perinum vEndEn..". While he

praises Ranganathan by this paasuram, we can also interpret this as

the ArchAvatAra swaroopam of emberumAn and say that even the fraction

of second smile is enought for me. (This really doesn't mean that I am

siding towards Thirumalai in my argument!!)

 

 

Quote ____________

Of what use is even our pEriya

perumal, if he refuses to budge from his "bed"?

Unquote __________

 

Good, is Sri Malolan coming out of his Sannidhi every day so that he

can be superior to our Periya PerumAL?

 

Quote __________

Devadirajan, ofcourse, standing on Attigiri and holding

his abhaya-hastam is showering His benign glance on

all His devotees. But then it takes just one "dancer"

(Arayar) to snatch away even his darling son (Udayavar).

Prersonally, i would think twice before taking refuge

under such a "vehuli" :-)

Unquote ____________

 

Beautiful. But please note that our PerumAL became a VehuLi just for

the benefit of Sri VaishNavism. If he would have been more possessive

about his son Ramanujar, where will all the now rich Sri VaishNava

sampradhAyam be?

 

So please keep Ahobilam at the bay. Please, please, please, please,

take this in a lighter way as an argument. I have no disregards for

Ahobilam in anyway or could there be any for anybody. All the above is

meant only in a lighter vein.

 

Forgive me if I have hurt any body's feelings.

 

adiyEn RAmAnuja dAsan

 

Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh

 

P.S: However there is no question of changing my mind over Srirangam!!

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Dear Bhagavathas,

 

While we are enjoying the postings on greatness of each

divya desam, the Azwar's words "Angu appozude" while singing

Singapiran perumai,from Shri Ramesh Sarangapani's post took

my memory a couple of months back where Tridandi Jeeyar Swamy

was giving excellent discourses in Denver and few experts on

the above words are as follows:

 

As Hiraniyan was getting ready to break the pillar, he wanted

one final confirmation from Prahaladan. Is your Narayanan present in

this pillar? Yes, father. Not only this pillar, he is present

everywhere and every time says Prahaladan. Are you sure? Yes father,

please go ahead and check it out. "Bang" goes Hiraniyan and our Lord

appears. This is where the Azwar's words "Angu appozude" comes into

play. He could have simply sang "avan viya thondriya en singapiran

perumai" instead he added "Angu appozude" so as to mean something.

What is he trying to convey ? Consider this: When Hiraniyan hit the

pillar at a particular spot and out Lord came out from some other

spot, then Hiraniyan, who was looking for some loopholes in the words

of Prahaladan, would claim that your Narayana is not present at the

spot I hit and so your claim as to "He is present everywhere" is false.

To convey this, our Azwar added the words "Angu"(at that spot).

Similar claim could also be made by Hiraniyan, as regards the time,

if our Lord appeared after few seconds of Hiraniyan's hitting the

pillar. Hence the words "appozude"(at that time)was used. Now, if we

read "Angu appozude avan viya thondriya en singapiran perumai" (adiyEn's

rough translation "The glory of Lord Narasimhan who appeared then and

there to destroy Hiraniyan")the first two words does mean something

special about Singapiran's avataram.

 

Any shortcoming in the expert belongs to me and all the

appreciation goes to the Acharya.

 

adiyEn,

 

c.s. ramesh

Colorado Springs.

 

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Ramesh Sarangapani <sarangap

isn't there one to vote for ahObilam?

Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:18:38 -0400 (EDT)

bhakti

 

 

Kaliyan while singing the glory of Azhagiya singar (at

Tiruvalikani) narrates succintly the avathara rahasyam

of Lakshmi Narasimhan and says "Angu Appoyude avan viya

thondriya en singapiran perumai"...meaning "that day

when his parama bhakta, Prahaladan, was in distress,

our Lord came to his rescue in an instant".

 

 

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08/14/98

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Dear Bhaktas,

 

I thoroughly enjoyed Sri Sarangapani's testimony in support of

Ahobilam. I wish to point out that Sri Vaishnavas need not pay

10 bucks for a one second Darshanam of Tiruvenkatan. One service

which is absolutely free is the daily SaRRmuRai Seva. One can get

a Darshan of the Lord from less than 10 ft away for 25 minutes

without paying a single penny! Again glory be to Goda Piratti for

blessing us with these verses, for these pave the way to

Lord Srinivasa for free! Thanks again Sri Sarangapani.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Muralidhar Rangaswamy

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Sri Murali Rangaswamy wrote:

>

> I wish to point out that Sri Vaishnavas need not pay

> 10 bucks for a one second Darshanam of Tiruvenkatan. One service

> which is absolutely free is the daily SaRRmuRai Seva. One can get

> a Darshan of the Lord from less than 10 ft away for 25 minutes

> without paying a single penny! Again glory be to Goda Piratti for

> blessing us with these verses, for these pave the way to

> Lord Srinivasa for free! Thanks again Sri Sarangapani.

 

This is true, and I have had the blessed fortune of

seeing thiruvEngadam udaiyaan unobstructed during

this sEvai, without anyone saying "jargaNdi" (Telugu

speakers, please pardon any mistakes in spelling!).

 

I would like to point out that unfortunately, this sEvai

is only open to men, not to women, and the men have to

wear yajnopavIta, wear thirumaN, and have no sideburns

or exclusive mustache. This restricts it essentially

to brahmins, or to those adventurous few who don a

yajnopavIta to sneak in!

 

Mani

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Sri:

Srimate Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha ParaBrahmane Namaha

 

Dear Sri Venkatesh ,

namo nArAyanA. kindly accept adiyen's pranAmams .

 

-------------------------

Sri Venkatesh wrote :

 

Sri Ramesh Sarangapani wrote :

Quote ________

It is one thing to preach the

charama slokam, but something all together different to execute

it day-in-and-day-out (for all Tiru-alli-kAni vasis :-))

Unquote _______

 

Just because we are not able to follow what is said in the Charama

Slokam doesn't mean that the Divya DEsam has lost its prominence. It

is we who should follow what is said in the Charama Slokam. If we are

not following the same, it is no good, be it that we are in

ThiruvallikkENi or Ahobilam or any other Divya DEsam.

 

Adiyen : The intention of Sri Ramesh has been unfortunately

interpreted wrongly by

Sri Venkatesh & adiyen can understand that it would have hurt him

very badly. But ,

Sri Venkatesh didn't project that "hurt" in his later postings & was

kind in taking that

also somewhat lightly though he couldn't have digested his

interpretation of Sri Ramesh's statement .

 

Actually , the statement of Sri Ramesh regarding the " Practise of

SaranAgati" was nothing to do with the KainkaryaparAs of ThiruvallikkENi

( ie. The statement doesn't mean that the

devotees dedicated to Thiruvallikeni Divya Desam are not prapannAs ) .

 

The purport of the remark was simply that MAlolan goes from village

to village &

AzhagiyaSingars perform "Prapatti" to the devotees , which is accepted

by MAlolan ,

whereas in other Divya Desams , this doesn't take place ( ie.

AchAryAs doesn't

perform the Prapatti to devotees in front of PerumALs of other Divya

Desams , whereas

in front of MAlolan , it is happening . ) . So, Sri Ramesh says that

eventhough pArthasArathy perumAL did the upadesam of Charama slokam ,

He is not accepting

the "Prapatti" the way in which MAlolan is accepting => Not

efficient in practise , though a great preacher . Ofcourse this has to

taken in proper spirit & the whole debate

regarding this issue has that inherent assumption .

 

The remark was certainly not on bhAgavathAs performing kainkaryam to

pArthasArathy

perumAL .

 

adiyen

anantha padmanAbha dAsan

krishnArpanam

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