Guest guest Report post Posted January 12, 1996 > > Sri. Sumanth Kaushik wrote at length about so many issues. A very responsible posting, and a well thoughtover one too. I just would like to present some of my views on few issues here. .... stuff deleted. > 3. Support needy temples. Whereas this is a great idea in concept, I > am not sure if we really ought to get involved in this. In India, > there are govt. sources of funds for temples. The same cannot be said > for our muttams and (often) poor vaidikas and their families. The > muttmas have survived on lands given to them by ancient kings. Now, > the govt. is takinga way a large portion of this wealth. I hear that > the Parakala muttam is facing this problem in Mysore. Ahobila Muttam > also derives its wealth from lands. I am not sure the status of these > lands. If anything, the tides of affairs are turned against the > muttams. I think the tempses are relatively better. > > Besides, I just think it is very hard, despite all our efforts, to > administer funds 15000 miles away. Groups within India have enough > trouble managing funds 5 km away. We have two levels of trouble to > deal with money going from here (the middlemen, and their > subordinates) > The main problem that we have is lack of information. Put together all of us haven't visited all the dhivya dhEsams. Not many actually know of the dilapidated state of our "dhivya" dhEsams. Though i am repeating this, the n'th time, i am sure that atleast 50 % of the DDs need some kind of attention, the intensity of which differs widely. I am talking about those where neither the Govt. nor the local matams could offer any help. This is very much true. If we take a statistics of the DDs and their basic needs and verify we would get a better idea, which is kinda of impossible for us 15K miles away. But trust me, from what i have seen, some temples in navathiruppathi ( ThirunelvEli), some around seergaazhi, some around kancheepuram, the one near madras(!) - thirukkadalmallai have serious problems. I heard during my recent trip to India that this temple, thirukkadalmallai, the avathaara sthalam of bhoothathaazhwaar(?) , a paadal peRRa sthalam is under bhaalaalayam for years. due to lack of funds, this state continues. so uthsavams and other things cannot be carried out unless the construction is complete and perumaaL is made ready(i dont find the right word.) for the uthsavams. This is a very sorry state. Our sampradhaayam views the perumaaLs as archchaavadhaarams, who have all guNaNGgaLs (qualities?!)all these uthsavams, alaNGgaarams, saaRRumaRais, thaLigais, and other nithyaanushtaanakramams are done to please HIM. Our aazhwaars and aachariyans have praised the beauties of these archaavathaarams. It will really bring tears to one's eyes if he/she happens to see the sorry state of these archaavathaarams and think of aazhwaar's paasurams on that perumaaL simultaneously. A commoner who visits such a temple could just shed tears. Can't we , being in USA, being away from our great bhoomi, earning in US$s, living in a relatively better life than our fellow bhakthaas in India, having good spiritual thoughts and bhakthi toward our sriman naaraayaNan do SOMETHING for the betterment of these dear perumaaLs about whom our aazhwaars have sung heaps of pasurams? As PD had mentioned, the rupee Vs dollar makes it even more inviting to help such causes. u have written that there are govt. sources for temples which is not true for all the temples. once again we need some kinda statistics to support this. I am not saying that matams have money. But atleast the sishyaas can take care to some extent, no such sishyaas for temples! coming to managing the funds ( if at all we decide to collect some money as a group for these noble causes!): problems: - being far away it is difficult to manage - lotso problems with muRais between bhattars.. too complicated - some kinda tax hassles for such donations - lack of information about the status of these temples - no direction as such on what is needed and where and how to disburse.... I think the organization that i talked with provides reasonable answers to most of these problems. They are based in Madras. They have in their committee highly learned scholars and are blessed by the heads of mutts ( TT Vasu(Music academy,..?), Sureshkrishna(tvs), vELukkudi krishNan (does very good upanyaasam, scholar), KrishNaprEmi (great scholar and engages in lot of such activities, known to many in our group ), N.C. ragavachari (advocate (for MGR!!)) , Mrs. YGP (good administrator, principal PSBB school). They have an official organization and would have done proper homework in terms of collecting info about the needs of the temples (only The 108), status in terms of vasthrams, nithya aaraadhai, thaLigai, infra structure etc.. Doing for 45 DDs presently , had been doing for more than 3 years, we can make use of them as follows: use them to get necessary info we can then decide whether we need to help them in their ventures if so, they can act as a channel for the funds that we have collected . the unnecessary tax hassles, the proper management of funds for the battars, the supervision of the work being carried out, and all other associated difficulties will be taken care of by them. They have some direction which they are going on for the past 3 + years. They as such dont have any expectation of any sorta help from us. I just talked to one person and also i didn't commit anything. i just mentioned that a group here(US) would probably plan to do something along these lines, let there not be duplication of efforts for the same cause, esp the one in which they are in a better position (not monetarily of course, but in terms of knowledge and proximity and legal advises govt. contacts ..etc) All these things can be done after properly assessing their credibility, their intentions regarding the projects, their actual project details etc. Only if we are satisfied with everything, we are going to proceed with this. In order to doo these, I had asked them to send info about them, some brochure or some sort, what they have done, what are their future plans etc.. Once i get it i will submit it for the group's perusal and then we shall decide. I feel that this makes things simple that once we have similar intentions, we just use them as a channel to spend our money according to our intentions. they do the dirty work actually!!. > > > SUMMARY > ------ > > In short, I am very concerned about handling money and having our > organization be responsible for actual disbursement of funds. We > should merely be a conduit for organization for established > organizations in India. > > Our role should be only one of service. We should feel happy to do the > dirty work of distributing information, collecting money, seeing that > it gets where it shold get. ALll this requires no funding, no > membership fees, nothing -- except service. This is perhaps thankless. > We may very well remain nameless and faceless, but I think we can be > truly successful this way. > > Sumanth > > =================End of Sri Sumanth Kaushik's mail========================= > In fact this could act as my summary too. 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Guest guest Report post Posted October 6, 1996 On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, M K Sudarshan wrote: =>> It is said that it was only at such an elemental moment when Draupadi, in an =>> act of supreme renunciation just voluntarily let go off the one last piece =>> of fabric she believed was everything to her at that moment in life, and =>> made one last plaintive cry to the Lord to save her, did Krishna come to her =>> rescue. =>> =>> I think there is indeed an experiential difference--- symbolised by the =>> fabric Draupadi clung to till the very last and which the Lord wanted her to =>> give up first as a condition for his rescue --- there is a difference =>> between a soul's renunciation of 'upaya' and 'paripurna saranagathi'. =>> =>> Sri LakshniNrusumhaya Namaha =>> Sri Vedanta Desika GuravE Namaha =>> Srimate Srivan Satagopa Sri Narayana Yateendra Maha Desikaya Namaha. =>> =>> Most Humbly, =>> =>> Sudarshan Namaskaram Yes Gajendra Moksham also illustrates the above point. Poet Potana beautifully depicts the surrender of Lord of elephants to the Lord and Lords grace and compassion to save his devotee. with love shashi ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** Shashikanth Hosur Email:shashi Dept Of Industrial Engg shashi Texas A&M University shashikanth Home:(409) 691 8644 Fax: (409) 846 5468 office :(409) 845 0441 !OM! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your right is to work only, but never to the fruit thereof. Nor let your attachment for the fruits of your action lead you to inaction. - BhagavatGita 2:47 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love All and Serve All --- Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba ******************************************************************************** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
