Guest guest Report post Posted December 24, 2001 I haven't been to this Board in a while, & I'm also behind on my reading. I just the NY magazine<br>article on-line, which some people actually thought was a parody! The 1 thing that I got out of it is the "identity" of El Senor: Mr. Hedge Fund Guy. He's the only person not mentioned by name, & he also referred to Jivamukti as Jive-Ass-Monkey; I've never seen any one refer to Jivamukti in that way except El Senor. The article also said Mr. Hedge is a serious Yogi-goes to Eddie's. So, El Senor-I think it's you. That dizzy woman who wrote the article gave you away. I must say, it's the most bizarre article I have ever read about about Yoga & those who practice it; it flatters no one, not even the author herself! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 25, 2001 I haven't read this article. Can you post the link? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 25, 2001 Here is the article in New York Magazine:<br><br><a href=http://www.nymag.com/page.cfm?page_id=5394 target=new>http://www.nymag.com/page.cfm?page_id=5394</a><br><br>Links to more online articles on Ashtanga yoga are here (at bottom of page):<br><br><a href=http://www.ionet.net/~tslade/yogabook.htm target=new>http://www.ionet.net/~tslade/yogabook.htm</a> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 25, 2001 Congratulations, you have discovered my secret. I, El Senor Pinche Wey, am indeed the hedge fund manager from the article. From now on you may refer to me as El Senor Hedge Fund. I am blessed with mastery of ashtanga yoga, vast wealth and a hot wife. I owe my success to drinking a glass of urine every morning before practice and smoking a fatty every evening before bed.<br><br>El Senor, Ole! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 26, 2001 I think the article points out just how unconnected and pathetic mainstream American yoga is from its spiritual roots--resulting in such yoga distortions as El Senor and those like him.<br>Draupadi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 26, 2001 what is ths link to this article? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 4, 2002 it's sad that that awful article is so misleading. Jivamukti, the center it focuses on, is the most spiritually-rooted yoga center i've been to in the west. that magazine is just puttting a spin on stories that will attract their audience -- rich upper eastside new yorkers. most of the people practicing yoga at jivamukti and other centers in NY are true devotees - whether they have money or not. please don't base your opinion on that article. it's a true injustice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 clk0893: I began my Yoga practice @ Jivamukti in 1999, & that's why I found that article so disturbing. I had never done Yoga before, knew very little about it, & felt very fortunate to be able to attend Basics classes in a room that held 20 people max, with teachers who were very knowledgeable & caring. When I felt comfortable, I began attending Open classes, & eventually Led Primary Series out of curiosity; @ that point, Christopher enouraged me to begin Mysore practice. It's a shame New York magazine ran that article, & not 1 about how knowledgeable & dedicated the instructors there are; it's also a shame the author pratices @ Jivamukti & that wasn't what she chose to focus on. I suppose since her scene is peopled with the kind she wrote about, that's her vision of what JYC is; sad, isn't it? Most of the people I met @ JYC were not like those in the article. Also, I am aquainted with Russell Simmons, & was very dismayed that nothing was mentioned about the programs he funds for inner city youth. Yeah, he's made a lot of money, but he also uses it to help people. As I said, it's the most bizarre article I've ever read about Yoga & the people who practice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 OOPS-I started my practice @ JYC in 1998, not 1999-@ that time there were still many people taking classes from the origional 2nd Avenue studio, hardly millionaire-wanna-be's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 i read the article and found it not evil at all and no reference to the hedge fund guy - was this THE article? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 Yes that's the article. Note that the link (in post 11439) is just to the first page. The article is 4 pages long. ("Flex Appeal" 1|2|3|4) at the bottom of the page is the navigation. I don't know why they didn't just make it one page. I didn't think it was too bad, though it was from a kind of odd and superficial perspective, very gossipy with lots of name-dropping. <br><br>For anyone who doesn't know, there is a VERY COOL documentary about yoga made by the Jivamukti people. Its called "What Is Yoga?" and can be ordered from <a href=http://www.jivamuktiyoga.com target=new>http://www.jivamuktiyoga.com</a><br>Also David and Sharon are putting out a book called Jivamukti Yoga (in April). Here is an Amazon link: <a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345442083/ target=new>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345442083/</a> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 Terry,<br><br>What is the Jivamukti video like? <br><br>Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 kia72 i noticed you are now in SF. where are you practicing there? how is it compared to jivamukti? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 You shouldn't be surprised, NY Magazine is the essential journal of crass existence. They could do an article on the Dalai Lama and leave you with a foul taste in your mouth. Spend some time on the Upper West Side on a Friday night to get a sense of their dedicated readership. Then get in a good strong practice first thing Saturday morning to wipe it off quickly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 B u s ted...ooops Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 6, 2002 The article was actually very well written for its audience by one of them. and wouldn't i just leave if someone preaches to me about commitment in my downdog - what bs. But i feel the pain of those who have experienced fullfillment at Jivamukti - i am sure it is not all trendy superficial crap but people people yoga is not group stuff - it is when you are quiet at home facing the challenge of practicing alone ...(meditation or asana)and it is not particularly fun but through commitment (that word again) it can become much more than satisfying (i trust). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2002 clk0893:I practice @ Open Door Yoga in SF; they have, in my opinion, the best teachers in SF. Devorah is the instructor for Mysore classes; she has Guruji's blessing to teach. The classes other than Mysore practice are varied, not all are Astaga-based, but all the instructors there are wonderful. It's very different than JYC, but I really like the energy and sincerity of the teachers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
