Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 Istanbul / Turkey , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > Hi > > It would be interesting to find out where people on the list live. > > Usually you find most americans on the net, so I hope we have other people here also. > > I live in Scandinavia (Sweden). > > Regards > > Lars > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 yesssssssssssss so when an SS member visits an area where a member is they can send a mail and if mutually agreed meet and say Hi NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote:ganpra wrote: > Just a stupid question. > > The poll question is where one is from??? > > May be an addition to ask where one is might also be an interesting > data. > > Also a database can be created for each member to add those data - > of course on a voluntary basis. > > G Nope, not stupid. Practical one. yeah why not. I think the database is already there. Check them out. / Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 Thats where there are a lot of voodoo practitioners? Eve__69 <eve__69 wrote:Louisiana - ganpra Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:31 PM Re: Where do you live? Puerto Rico Links / b.. c.. / ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 - > [....] I just heard that there are "oxygen bars" > [....] I said " let me guess, it started in California" What is the point with these bars? Only fresh air? Lars Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 Thanks for the enlightening explanation Swastika. But I guess Kochu was asking about Lousiana. I too was a bit puzzled by Kochu's query, searching my memory for any voodoo events if I have witnessed. Then noticed the single line statement from Eve. G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 I know one such person personally, HE did Sri Vidya Navarana puja everyday for 16 years straight without missing a single day. Then Sri Lalitha Devi told HIM do do the puja internally in his body. He has gone into the Thuriya aditha stage and is in constantly in Samadhi. HE lives in kerala, India. HE will leave the physical plane in the next 2/3 years. He follows the Bhaskararaya Kaula sampradhaya. At HIS holy feet,pradeesh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 I'm sorry I missed the question. What was it again? I belong to Voodoo boards as well, so - ganpra Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:01 AM Re: Where do you live? Thanks for the enlightening explanation Swastika. But I guess Kochu was asking about Lousiana. I too was a bit puzzled by Kochu's query, searching my memory for any voodoo events if I have witnessed. Then noticed the single line statement from Eve. G Links / b.. c.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 can I have his name please? suresh deepak <onthispath wrote:I know one such person personally, HE did Sri Vidya Navarana puja everyday for 16 years straight without missing a single day. Then Sri Lalitha Devi told HIM do do the puja internally in his body. He has gone into the Thuriya aditha stage and is in constantly in Samadhi. HE lives in kerala, India. HE will leave the physical plane in the next 2/3 years. He follows the Bhaskararaya Kaula sampradhaya. At HIS holy feet,pradeesh / Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2005 HE is a desciple of Sri Yogeshananda natha and i believe you Guru's Gurubai. HIS name is Dr. S. Vijayan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 -Well I live in Atlanta Ga.USA --it's great here we have 5 hindu temples and supposedly the largest shakti temple in US with large murti's of Amba (the main deity)santoshi ma ,bahuchar ma,Kali ma ,mahalaxmi,gayati and others.That's a gujarat temple .THe South indian temple is awesome too, Balaji with large sri durga installed laxmi, sri andal, large hanuman ,and 9 planets.Next door Shiva temple was built last year ,which contains large lingam, Parvati ,Kartekeya with 2 wives ganesha of course and this weekend kal Bhairava will be installed along with sri meru chakra for Lalita.We have a large Lalita group and many sri vidya devottees at temple.---Buvaneswar -- In , "kara_kagan" <kara_kagan> wrote: > Istanbul / Turkey > > , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > > Hi > > > > It would be interesting to find out where people on the list live. > > > > Usually you find most americans on the net, so I hope we have > other people here also. > > > > I live in Scandinavia (Sweden). > > > > Regards > > > > Lars > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 deepak wrote: "I know one such person personally, HE did Sri Vidya Navarana puja everyday for 16 years straight without missing a single day. Then Sri Lalitha Devi told HIM do do the puja internally in his body. He has gone into the Thuriya aditha stage and is in constantly in Samadhi. HE lives in kerala, India. HE will leave the physical plane in the next 2/3 years. He follows the Bhaskararaya Kaula sampradhaya." Why doesn't he stay here helping the poor in the world or try to stop the pollution and devastation of Mother Earth? Who ought to be our ideal, the christian Mother Theresa or yogis of this kind? I have a friend who is a member of the salvation army. We usually argue about christianity and yoga, which is the best for people. Last time we argued he said that he do not see any tendencies of the yogaculture to do the same social work as the christians do. I had to agree with him. "I once picked up a woman from a garbage dump and she was burning with fever; she was in her last days and her only lament was: `My son did this to me.' I begged her: You must forgive your son. In a moment of madness, when he was not himself, he did a thing he regrets. Be a mother to him, forgive him. It took me a long time to make her say: `I forgive my son.' Just before she died in my arms, she was able to say that with a real forgiveness. She was not concerned that she was dying. The breaking of the heart was that her son did not want her. This is something you and I can understand." - Mother Teresa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Mother Theresas and other christian groups have been and are intensly evil.Following in the footsteps of colonilization, military oppression, and rascism the "Help"is like unto the plague causing endless pain and suffering in asia as well as in africa. The Keywords of the social work of the Christian organisations are power, money, religious fanatism, bigotry, oppression. Mother Teresa was a conservative Catholic who supported the evil Pope's hard line on abortion, contraception, divorce, women priests, and generally had very bad ideas about women. A woman's highest virtue was to do her duty to the church and her husband – to be a "good" wife and mother and to serve the Catholic church. Mother T had a lifelong obsession with abortion. It was her central issue. She was fundamentally opposed to it, regardless of circumstances. She was against abortion in all cases, even in the case of rape, incest, or risk to the woman's health. In her acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1976, she made her stance clear: "Abortion is the worst evil, and the greatest enemy of peace ... Because if a mother can kill her own child, what will prevent us from killing ourselves or one another? Nothing." In 1993 she was asked about a case in Ireland about a 14-year-old rape victim. Mother T remarked: "Abortion can never be necessary because it is pure killing." Needless to say, M.T. was equally opposed to contraception in all forms. She had other questionable supporters as well. Charles Keating, who stole in excess of $252 million in the Savings and Loan scandal of the 1980s, donated $1.25 million of his loot to Mother Teresa. When he was eventually caught, M.T. interceded on his behalf and wrote a letter to the court urging leniency. When the district attorney wrote back informing her that the money she had received was stolen money, she made no attempt to reply. She also accepted money from the embezzler Robert Maxwell, who stole £450 million from his employees' pension funds (and committed suicide rather than face Scotland Yard). In fact, the Missionaries of Charity probably garner annual donations in excess of $100 million worldwide. (It's only "probably" because her organization patently refuses to release their financials.) It certainly doesn't go into health care for her wards. People get the misconception that her facilities operate as hospices or medical clinics. This is not so. Those facilities are devoted to giving people someplace to lay down and die. , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > deepak wrote: > > "I know one such person personally, HE did Sri Vidya Navarana puja everyday for 16 years straight without missing a single day. Then Sri Lalitha Devi told HIM do do the puja internally in his body. He has gone into the Thuriya aditha stage and is in constantly in Samadhi. HE lives in kerala, India. HE will leave the physical plane in the next 2/3 years. He follows the Bhaskararaya Kaula sampradhaya." > > Why doesn't he stay here helping the poor in the world or try to stop the pollution and devastation of Mother Earth? > > Who ought to be our ideal, the christian Mother Theresa or yogis of this kind? > > I have a friend who is a member of the salvation army. We usually argue about christianity and yoga, which is the best for people. Last time we argued he said that he do not see any tendencies of the yogaculture to do the same social work as the christians do. > > I had to agree with him. > > "I once picked up a woman from a garbage dump and she was burning with > fever; she was in her last days and her only lament was: `My son did this > to me.' I begged her: You must forgive your son. In a moment of madness, > when he was not himself, he did a thing he regrets. Be a mother to him, > forgive him. It took me a long time to make her say: `I forgive my son.' > Just before she died in my arms, she was able to say that with a real > forgiveness. She was not concerned that she was dying. The breaking of the > heart was that her son did not want her. This is something you and I can understand." > > - Mother Teresa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 That's Buddhism and Christianity. Any other religions that you hate? - mahahradanatha Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:42 AM Re: Where do you live? Mother Theresas and other christian groups have been and are intensly evil.Following in the footsteps of colonilization, military oppression, and rascism the "Help"is like unto the plague causing endless pain and suffering in asia as well as in africa. The Keywords of the social work of the Christian organisations are power, money, religious fanatism, bigotry, oppression. Mother Teresa was a conservative Catholic who supported the evil Pope's hard line on abortion, contraception, divorce, women priests, and generally had very bad ideas about women. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 "...Cynics say that real life is a choice between the failed revolution and the shabby deal. I don't know... maybe they're right. But even they should know that there's no limit to just how shabby that shabby deal can be. What we need to search for and find, what we need to hone and perfect into a magnificent, shining thing, is a new kind of politics. Not the politics of governance, but the politics of resistance. The politics of opposition. The politics of forcing accountability. The politics of slowing things down. The politics of joining hands across the world and preventing certain destruction. In the present circumstances, I'd say that the only thing worth globalizing, is dissent. It's India's best export." arundhati roy , "Eve__69" <eve__69@h...> wrote: > That's Buddhism and Christianity. Any other religions that you hate? > > - > mahahradanatha > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:42 AM > Re: Where do you live? > > > Mother Theresas and other christian groups have been and are intensly > evil.Following in the footsteps of colonilization, military > oppression, and rascism the "Help"is like unto the plague causing > endless pain and suffering in asia as well as in africa. > The Keywords of the social work of the Christian organisations are > power, money, religious fanatism, bigotry, oppression. > > Mother Teresa was a conservative Catholic who supported the evil > Pope's hard line on abortion, contraception, divorce, women priests, > and generally had very bad ideas about women. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 > > Why doesn't he stay here helping the poor in the world or try to stop the pollution and devastation of Mother Earth? ----This kind of judgement is truely ignorant. The yogi gives hope in the truest sense. He shows the path to cessation of suffering while alive, not just after death. This is something that a Christian cannot hope to understand. The yogi serves the larger picture, becoming a mythical figure, and a larger than Schwartzeneggar hero, for the common person. Moreover, who is to say that this person is not also contributing charitably? So he knows the time of his death. That doesn't mean he was given the choice to change that. > > Who ought to be our ideal, the christian Mother Theresa or yogis of this kind? ----Do you have a throne to sit in such high judgement? The flipside of such thinking is the depression of seeing all as a nihilistic void. If some one human or another can be so righteous and judgemental then they must also hope that they didn't slip up along the way somehow. Or else. It's best to lose such conceptual thinking all together. Ever read Jesus? He didn't give concepts but revelation. Try revelation sometime. Leave conceptual thinking to dualistic moralists and those who think they're superior to others. If you give, then give without judgement. Otherwise all the charity that you do will be taken from you when people see your real motives to convert the pagans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 "Social change A1 The oppressive structures of society are internalized by all of us, molding our psychological and experiential structures. If we set out to transform society without having transformed our own inner structures we unavoidably reproduce those structures in the new order of things. Therefore, what we mean to be a total transformation of society will be but a mere change of masters. A2 The internalized, aggressive and oppressive elements of society are integrated into the structure of our psyche. If we project those elements of our psyche on the ruling class and try to destroy them by destroying the members of that class our destructive and oppressive actions will make all the more powerful the negative elements of our psyche which we wished to destroy. Having destroyed the ones on whom we projected those elements, the latter's' underground presence will be felt again in our own selves and thus we shall be compelled to project them in new "others" who may also be destroyed as though they were those aspects." {(THE MEANING OF SELF-LIBERATION AND THE LOOPY LOOPS FROM THE SOURCE OF DANGER IS FEAR By Elías Capriles University of The Andes Department of Philosophy and Chair of Eastern Studies Mérida, Venezuela Article Originally Published in the International Journal of Transpersonal Studies, vol 20, 2001 (pp. 53-66)} - mahahradanatha Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:23 AM Re: Where do you live? "...Cynics say that real life is a choice between the failed revolution and the shabby deal. I don't know... maybe they're right. But even they should know that there's no limit to just how shabby that shabby deal can be. What we need to search for and find, what we need to hone and perfect into a magnificent, shining thing, is a new kind of politics. Not the politics of governance, but the politics of resistance. The politics of opposition. The politics of forcing accountability. The politics of slowing things down. The politics of joining hands across the world and preventing certain destruction. In the present circumstances, I'd say that the only thing worth globalizing, is dissent. It's India's best export." arundhati roy , "Eve__69" <eve__69@h...> wrote: > That's Buddhism and Christianity. Any other religions that you hate? > > - > mahahradanatha > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:42 AM > Re: Where do you live? > > > Mother Theresas and other christian groups have been and are intensly > evil.Following in the footsteps of colonilization, military > oppression, and rascism the "Help"is like unto the plague causing > endless pain and suffering in asia as well as in africa. > The Keywords of the social work of the Christian organisations are > power, money, religious fanatism, bigotry, oppression. > > Mother Teresa was a conservative Catholic who supported the evil > Pope's hard line on abortion, contraception, divorce, women priests, > and generally had very bad ideas about women. > > -- / b.. c.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 i agree I only object to the crazy idea that a srividya upasaka should behave like Mother Theresa, But She was very oppressive and her arguments inhuman and her thinking evil. Nobody should behave like her or like any christian missionary. There is no christian "social work" what the christians mostly do is about power and economy and politics, in the past it was called colonial rule that was backed up by religion, now it is called globalisation, also backed up by religion but it is only a name change. That is why i cited arundhati roy what she calls dissent you can also call adhikari bhedam, to each his own, the power of that state of acceptance of whatis different to your own belief. Politics and conversive Religions like Islam Christianity and Buddhism try to brainwash you to believe that there is only one truth and one way to look at things. That is only to better control and manipulate the faceless mass. arundhati roy the full speech: http://www.sustaindane.org/main/a_roy.html , "Eve__69" <eve__69@h...> wrote: > "Social change > > A1 The oppressive structures of society are internalized by all of us, > molding our psychological and experiential structures. > If we set out to transform society > without having transformed our own inner structures > we unavoidably reproduce those structures in the new order of things. > > Therefore, what we mean to be a total transformation of society > will be but a mere change of masters. > > A2 The internalized, aggressive and oppressive elements of society > are integrated into the structure of our psyche. > If we project those elements of our psyche on the ruling class > and try to destroy them by destroying the members of that class > our destructive and oppressive actions will make all the more powerful > the negative elements of our psyche which we wished to destroy. > Having destroyed the ones on whom we projected those elements, > the latter's' underground presence will be felt again in our own selves > and thus we shall be compelled to project them in new "others" > who may also be destroyed as though they were those aspects." > > {(THE MEANING OF SELF-LIBERATION > AND THE LOOPY LOOPS FROM > THE SOURCE OF DANGER IS FEAR > By > Elías Capriles > University of The Andes > Department of Philosophy and Chair of Eastern Studies > Mérida, Venezuela > Article Originally Published in the > International Journal of Transpersonal Studies, vol 20, 2001 (pp. 53-66)} > > > > > - > mahahradanatha > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:23 AM > Re: Where do you live? > > > "...Cynics say that real life is a choice between the failed > revolution and the shabby deal. I don't know... maybe they're right. > But even they should know that there's no limit to just how shabby > that shabby deal can be. What we need to search for and find, what we > need to hone and perfect into a magnificent, shining thing, is a new > kind of politics. Not the politics of governance, but the politics of > resistance. The politics of opposition. The politics of forcing > accountability. The politics of slowing things down. The politics of > joining hands across the world and preventing certain destruction. In > the present circumstances, I'd say that the only thing worth > globalizing, is dissent. It's India's best export." > > arundhati roy > > , "Eve__69" <eve__69@h...> wrote: > > That's Buddhism and Christianity. Any other religions that you > hate? > > > > - > > mahahradanatha > > > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:42 AM > > Re: Where do you live? > > > > > > Mother Theresas and other christian groups have been and are > intensly > > evil.Following in the footsteps of colonilization, military > > oppression, and rascism the "Help"is like unto the plague causing > > endless pain and suffering in asia as well as in africa. > > The Keywords of the social work of the Christian organisations are > > power, money, religious fanatism, bigotry, oppression. > > > > Mother Teresa was a conservative Catholic who supported the evil > > Pope's hard line on abortion, contraception, divorce, women > priests, > > and generally had very bad ideas about women. > > > > > > > > > > -- ------------ > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 I like Answer 1, but I think m. has a good point about Mother Teresa that isn't about hate, other than the self-hate she carried and proclaimed as a good choice. That IS a Christian value -- not from Jesus, but from the Christianity that came with and after the crucifixion when it became a power grab. Recognizing oppressors or those who are continuing oppressive traditions through their work isn't a bad thing. It's important to be discerning so that one can choose the high road. , "Eve__69" <eve__69@h...> wrote: > "Social change > > A1 The oppressive structures of society are internalized by all of us, > molding our psychological and experiential structures. > If we set out to transform society > without having transformed our own inner structures > we unavoidably reproduce those structures in the new order of things. > > Therefore, what we mean to be a total transformation of society > will be but a mere change of masters. > > A2 The internalized, aggressive and oppressive elements of society > are integrated into the structure of our psyche. > If we project those elements of our psyche on the ruling class > and try to destroy them by destroying the members of that class > our destructive and oppressive actions will make all the more powerful > the negative elements of our psyche which we wished to destroy. > Having destroyed the ones on whom we projected those elements, > the latter's' underground presence will be felt again in our own selves > and thus we shall be compelled to project them in new "others" > who may also be destroyed as though they were those aspects." > > {(THE MEANING OF SELF-LIBERATION > AND THE LOOPY LOOPS FROM > THE SOURCE OF DANGER IS FEAR > By > Elías Capriles > University of The Andes > Department of Philosophy and Chair of Eastern Studies > Mérida, Venezuela > Article Originally Published in the > International Journal of Transpersonal Studies, vol 20, 2001 (pp. 53-66)} > > > > > - > mahahradanatha > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:23 AM > Re: Where do you live? > > > "...Cynics say that real life is a choice between the failed > revolution and the shabby deal. I don't know... maybe they're right. > But even they should know that there's no limit to just how shabby > that shabby deal can be. What we need to search for and find, what we > need to hone and perfect into a magnificent, shining thing, is a new > kind of politics. Not the politics of governance, but the politics of > resistance. The politics of opposition. The politics of forcing > accountability. The politics of slowing things down. The politics of > joining hands across the world and preventing certain destruction. In > the present circumstances, I'd say that the only thing worth > globalizing, is dissent. It's India's best export." > > arundhati roy > > , "Eve__69" <eve__69@h...> wrote: > > That's Buddhism and Christianity. Any other religions that you > hate? > > > > - > > mahahradanatha > > > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:42 AM > > Re: Where do you live? > > > > > > Mother Theresas and other christian groups have been and are > intensly > > evil.Following in the footsteps of colonilization, military > > oppression, and rascism the "Help"is like unto the plague causing > > endless pain and suffering in asia as well as in africa. > > The Keywords of the social work of the Christian organisations are > > power, money, religious fanatism, bigotry, oppression. > > > > Mother Teresa was a conservative Catholic who supported the evil > > Pope's hard line on abortion, contraception, divorce, women > priests, > > and generally had very bad ideas about women. > > > > > > > > > > -- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Please dont take this the wrong way. but what make you feel that he is not helping the poor.in my openion this is a low form of service, because you can feed people,cloth them etc, but will they be satisfied? the most important service you can do form a person, is get him/her into spirituality, so they can become one with GOD! At HIS holy feet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 One does not have to be fully like a person, but can take part of the personality. Care giving tendency of Mother Theresa, Rising against oppression like Gandhi....etc. But my personal favorite is Kanchi Mahaswami, Sri Chandrasekarendra Saraswathi. I was reading the "personal experiences" as described by devotees on the Kamakoti peetam website. While some of them are just flowery worded articles, quite a good number of them are from people who had a personal interaction with the Swami during his long tenure as a peetathipathi (1907 to 1994). There are several instances of benevolence, sympathy and simplicity which were the hallmark of Mahaswami. I do not belong to that mutt (or math) - but I always had/have the greatest respect for him. Here is the link: http://www.kamakoti.org/newlayout/template/souvenir.html One particular incident brought me to tears is when he gives an apple, which has been transformed as a kavacha by mantras to protect a badly injured child in a road accident (a truck ran over her) by placing it on the bedside in the hospital (ICU?). The child recovered from the accident and then told her parents that she had a vision of a young girl adorned with ornaments protecting her and standing guard (Bala?). There are also several incidents where he will give the offering (gold and money) from richer devotees to poorer ones in desperate need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Yes, a yogi helps many on internal levels, and merely moving the body to look like they are doing service is some outward token. Yogis support the entire world on the inside, by purifying the mental meme pool, by dousing flames of passion and hatred, by bringing sooth to mental ills. Anyone who has suffered like that can tell you that emotional and mental illness is more painful than physical. Physical illness can be cured with a meal or a shot, but mental and emotional are very hard to cure. This is the realm of the shaman, the yogi...and don't forget it... - suresh deepak Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:01 AM Re: Where do you live? Please dont take this the wrong way. but what make you feel that he is not helping the poor.in my openion this is a low form of service, because you can feed people,cloth them etc, but will they be satisfied? the most important service you can do form a person, is get him/her into spirituality, so they can become one with GOD! At HIS holy feet -- / b.. c.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Care giving tendency of Mother Theresa... Some facts about MT http://www.room23.de/1213.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 , "mahahradanatha" <mahahradanatha> wrote: > Care giving tendency of Mother Theresa... > > Some facts about MT > > http://www.room23.de/1213.html excerpt: Even patients in unbearable pain were refused strong painkillers, not because the order did not have them,but on principle. "The most beautiful gift for a person is that he can participate in the suffering of Christ," said Mother Teresa. Once she had tried to comfort a screaming sufferer, "You are suffering, that means Jesus is kissing you." The sufferer screamed back, furious, "Then tell your Jesus to stop kissing me." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 Interesting - never knew about this before. Well, then my previous statement can be modified as "Care giving by MT as preceived widely." ;-) , "mahahradanatha" <mahahradanatha> wrote: > Care giving tendency of Mother Theresa... > > Some facts about MT > > http://www.room23.de/1213.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2005 As a grandson of christian missionaries who worked in india for 20 years,I can say that many missionaries have the agenda of destroying cultures and native traditions.The saving of 'heathen souls' is their number one priority and medical attention and education are used as bait. I am thankful that my grandparents failed in their mission (they didn't convert even one indian)although they taught in schools and i suppose some good came out of it. My mother was very upset when I became a buddhist at 17 years of age and then a hindu in my 20's.Over the years she has come to tolerate my views.I have no explanation why so many children and grandchildren of missionaries to india become hindu.It just seems to happen.It must be said because of the caste system india was fertile ground for christians and buddhists to successfully convert many of the tribal peoples and lower castes. Hindus in India should accept these people into hinduism after going thru the proper conversion and purification rituals and much of the foreign intrusions and missions would slow down.For better or for worse socialism is changing much of India but it will be a long time before many groups are accepted as hindu. A few gurus here and there are working amoung tribal peoples and untouchables, but until this happens on a massive scale christians and buddhists will continue their work on a large scale and fill the socio-economic void that the hindu's and indian governments are failing to fill.----Buvaneswar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
