Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Posted February 1, 2005 , "Sarabhanga Giri" > Purva-Kaula worships the Devi as wife and mother, and in this respect it is right. > Uttara-Kaula worships the Devi as a virgin, and in this respect it > may be left. Please clarify these points, i really don't get it . Best regards, A. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Posted February 2, 2005 > > Purva-Kaula worships the Devi as wife and mother, and in this > > respect it is right. > > Uttara-Kaula worships the Devi as a virgin, and in this respect > > it may be left. Uttara-Kaula tends to focus on the Goddess as a 16 year old virgin girl ~ so this practice is "left". Purva-Kaula tends to focus on the Goddess as rightful consort and ultimate Mother ~ so this practice is "right". Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Posted February 2, 2005 93, , "Sarabhanga Giri" > Uttara-Kaula tends to focus on the Goddess as a 16 year old virgin > girl ~ so this practice is "left". > > Purva-Kaula tends to focus on the Goddess as rightful consort and > ultimate Mother ~ so this practice is "right". As U understand, in dakshina-marga Devi is Mother, in vama She is Shakti (Beloved or consort). Thus, in the first case we have vatsalya-rasa, in second - shringara. But what is the basis of Ur statement abt uttara-kaula? Never heard that. Besides, when Devi is invoked in woman's body in the time of kula-yaga, She cannot be viewed as kumarika, She must be either wife or parakiya. Shodashi ("16 year old") as far as i know is not seen as a virgin as well. Even Bala has many erotic epithets, not to say abt Shodashi. The only issue i saw in scripture that speaks abt sexual ritual with a virgin - that was in "Pranatoshini". But that practice seems to be not common among kaulas; it must be some odd local custom . That passage didn't associate mentioned practice with uttara-kaula or whatsoever. Thus, Ur statement seem to be rather strange... Anyway, i will be glad if U continue. Maybe i don't catch something. Best regards, A. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Posted February 2, 2005 Uttara-Kaula tends to focus on the Goddess as the ravishing yet entirely pure and virginal Shodashi ~ so this practice is said to be "left", by comparison with the earlier and eastern Purva-Kaula traditions. Northern Uttara-Kaula Shri Vidya was later transferred to the South. Surely, ravishing the Virgin is a more "left-handed" practice than uniting with the Mother! Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Posted February 2, 2005 93, , "Sarabhanga Giri" > Uttara-Kaula tends to focus on the Goddess as the ravishing yet > entirely pure and virginal Shodashi ~ so this practice is said to > be "left", by comparison with the earlier and eastern Purva-Kaula > traditions. Northern Uttara-Kaula Shri Vidya was later transferred > to the South. Surely, ravishing the Virgin is a more "left-handed" > practice than uniting with the Mother! Yes, i already undetsood that . What i do not understand is the sourse of the statement abt correlation of virgin with uttara-kaula. Could U plz tell where U got it from? Interesting, 'coz i never came across any references to that... Regards, A. Quote
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