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Actually, it was elucidated in the intro to the

Lalitasahasranama; the Samaya Path is referred to as

"pure and noble". I have never heard of any Samaya

sexual practices, but please feel free to correct me

on that one. It is a matter of the temperament of the

particular student and the particular path of the guru

that would determine one's suitability for extreme

Kaula practices, I would imagine. And see my previous

letter; I said that proper use of the practices

DECREASES the need for physical sex, thus it is not

surprising that "highest Kaulas" would not need the

"actual" 5 Ms. The point of these rites is less about

the actual practices themselves and more about the

intense mental states they engender, which helps one

rise on the Path, provided one's devotion is strong

and can keep the energies under control. Once one has

attained, the vehicle can be abandoned.

Lilith M.

--- Satish Raja Arigela <satisharigela

wrote:

>

> I understand this is for Omprem, but a couple of

> comments.

>

> , Lili Masamura

>

> <sephirah5> wrote:

> >the reason the

> > Samaya Path is the "pure" one is because the

> people on

> > it are not in control of their animalistic

> tendencies

> > and have to follow a path that does not encourage

> > them.

>

> Substantiate your statement about Samaya path!

> Ex: I can call a person a theif. That doesnt mean

> he is.

> I gotta show evidence.

> Like wise, please show evidence for this.

> Otherwise, please take

> that statement back.

>

> Recently Nora posted from LS the meanings of

> Samaya. It is a good

> idea to read them before responding.

> Samayachara tatpara etc.

>

> >The Left-Hand Path is referred to as "heroic"

> > because to succeed with it you must be already in

> > control of your own lower nature.

>

> That is not the only opinion. They are multiple

> opinions about that.

> Ex: Some Tantriks think that it is for the lowly.

> Some for the

> advanced. What aout Divya path which is above(the

> Vamachara texts

> themselves say that) Vira where there is no usage of

> 5M.

>

> What about Kaulikottamas(highest Kaulas) who doesnt

> need real 5M

> either? Avalon mentions that some Vamachara sadhakas

> of Vatuka

> Bhairava(Boy Bhairava/ or Deviputra/ or Bhairavi

> tanaya as his

> sahasrnama says) dont touch women either.

> Think about that.

>

> Thx.

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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