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namaste adi shakti,

no problem for the delay.. thank you very much for your interesting

post(s)..

 

do i understand it right if using worldly desires to attain spiritual

union is a form of vira sadhana?

while in divya sadhana there is no need to attain union/ecstasy, viz.

union has become being, being has become union?

in other words, for the vira there is still a difference between yoga

and bhoga and for the divya yoga and bhoga are the same, everything

has become 'absorption'?

 

i checked the previous posts on samaya marga (message 895).. very

nice.. did i understand it right that samaya marga is pure internal

worship and kaula marga is a mixture of internal and external worship

(misra)? is that the reason why you prefer samaya?

 

if you have more information/weblinks/articles on samaya (or kaula)

marga, please share them with us..

how is svatantra related to vira-divya sadhana (and samaya marga)?

 

thanks again for your care,

one love

om shanti

 

 

 

, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

> hi spurna, dear one , i apologize for the delay in responding to

your

> queries...

>

> first, let us take up the vast subject of 'vira' sadhnaa.

>

> before discussing that, we need to look into what are called

> the 'bhavas' in tantra... bhava means 'emotion' -

>

> basically, in tantric sadhana, there are three kinds of bhavas...

the

> spiritual aspirants are divided into three major groups according

to

> their mental disposition or gunas or emotions..

>

> 1) pashu- animal like

>

> 2) vira- heroic

>

> 3) divya- divine

>

> IWho is a person of pashu bhava?

>

> Such a person is fully absorbed in wordly activities - he is easily

> swayed by passions ; he is a slave to lust and greed; he cannot

> master his emotions of anger and envy ,he is full of hate; he is a

> victim of 'fear' etc...

>

> on account of all this animal-like dispostion, such a person is not

> allowed to practice the pancha-makaras. (the five rituals )

>

> OUR LORD SHIVA IS CALLED **** PASHUPATI**** because he has

conquered

> all the 'pashu-like' qualities... more on this later in another

> post....

>

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>

> who is competent to practice the ritual with the

> five ingredients or makaras?

>

> It is undoubetedly the sadhaka with the heroic disposition or what

we

> call vira.Such a man has the strength and the courage to' play

> with FIRE' ! FOR HE CAN EASILY BURN AWAY HIS WORLDLY

> BONDS AND TIES. how? for he has self-control and even

> in the most trying circumstances such a man of

> heroic disposition does not yield to temptation. our

> hero is fearless; pure in motive; gentle in speech;

> physically strong; intelligent; courageous; full of virtue

> and still humble and only values what is good and

> just.

>

> it is a person who has this 'heroic' disposition that can

> practice 'vira' sadhana... more on this ln another post!

>

>

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>

> now, we come to the third and the best of

> all sadhakas! The sadhaka of divine (divya)

> disposition has risen above all the bonds of desire and has

> nothing to sublimate.such a sadhaka is the beloved of all!

> he is , introspective, steady, sagacious,

> and solicitous about others' welfare. He never

> swerves from the path of truth and can do no evil. Good

> in every way, he is regarded as the embodiment of

> Siva. In his worship he does not need physical aids for

> rousing his spiritual emotions; the meditative mood is

> spontaneous with him. He is always in ecstasy, enjoying

> `inner woman and wine.' For the five ingredients used by

> a hero he substitutes consciousness (chit), bliss

> (ananda), and exaltation (bhava).

>

> our beloved shri ramakrishna, adi shankara, shri ramana maharishi,

> shri aurobindo , swami vivekananda are all spiritual aspirants of

> *divya * disposition...

>

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> how can bhavas be compared to the three gunas? In the pashu bhava,

the

> dominant guna is *tamas* - characteristics such as DOUBT

> (BHRANTI), , drowsiness (tandra), and sloth (alasya).BUT,

> paSHU DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN ****bad**** ALL IT

> MEANS IS SUCH A PERSON IS bound by the bonds (pasha) of

> worldly passions

> these are pity (daya), ignorance and delusion (moha), fear

> (bhaya), 4) shame (lajja), disgust

> (ghrina), family (kula),) custom

> (shila),and caste (varna).SUCH A MAN OF PASHU

> BHAVA IS A WORLDLY MAN- who is in bondage.!

>

> >now, how can a man of pashu bhava free himself from

> the pashas? >BY SURRENDERING TO THE DIVINE

> MOTHER - *****pashupasha-vimochini*****, Liberatrix of

> the pashu from his bondage!

>

>

> to be continued...

>

> spurna, hope this helps....

>

> hari om tat sat!!!