Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Thank you cdr bvnji. Sorry for the Daksha and Yaksha mixup. I thought someone used the term Daksha. This question regarding creatures "departing for yama's abode" was the one I was looking for as well. Will pass this on to HS. Love to all Harsha cdr b vaidyanathan wrote: friends, the best question by yaksha and not daksha is: " What is the greatest wonder in the world?" reply by Yuddishtra is: "Every day, men see creatures depart to yama's abode and yet, those remain, seek to live for ever. this verily is the greatest wonder" after this the yaksha posed many questions and answered them all. this is in rajaji's Mahabharata book as well. pranams cdr bvn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Thank you Harsha, for searching out both of these stories of wisdom. Each one has its own special significance for me and I guess that is why I was moved to pursue the question with you ================================================= Yaksha asks Yuddishtra : " What is the greatest wonder in the world?"Reply by Yuddishtra is:"Every day, men see creatures depart to yama's abode and yet, those remain, seek to live for ever. This verily is the greatest wonder" =================================================================== And so it is. Lord Yama, come get me, please...I am all dressed up with no place to go :-) For those who may have missed Harsha's explanation in his first post, Yama is the Lord of Death. Harsha, you also wrote... According to the Yogic view, Death is only a temporary solution but still a wonderful thing to meditate on. In fact, it can be the door way to prepare for Self-Realization. In India, Sadhus and aspirants often meditate on cremation grounds on the nature of death. Can you expand on what you mean when you say...death is only a temporary solution? Relying upon concepts, which is all I can do to express myself in words, are you referring to death as a temporary solution in between incarnations until Moksha is attained? Yet, there are those who argue that there is no karma, there is no existence at all... All is Maya...if that is so, then why are we even talking about it at all? In other words, Harshaji, what is the meaning of Life? Love, Joyce - Harsha advaitin ; Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:57 PM Re: Re: Yuddishtra and the Daksha Thank you cdr bvnji. Sorry for the Daksha and Yaksha mixup. I thought someone used the term Daksha. This question regarding creatures "departing for yama's abode" was the one I was looking for as well. Will pass this on to HS.Love to allHarshacdr b vaidyanathan wrote: friends,the best question by yaksha and not daksha is:" What is the greatest wonder in the world?"reply by Yuddishtra is:"Every day, men see creatures depart to yama's abode and yet, those remain, seek to live for ever. this verily is the greatest wonder"after this the yaksha posed many questions and answered them all.this is in rajaji's Mahabharata book as well.pranamscdr bvn/join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Dear Joyce, Yes, according to most Eastern traditions, Death" is a temporary reprieve or a break and the person reincarnates again. There are some remarkable accounts of people being able to remember their past life and recount in accurate details which were verified. This happened a few times at Sri Ramanaashram as well. Sri Ramana always said that the use of techniques to recall past lives was a complete waste of time. However, it can happen spontaneously as well. >From an Advaitic perspective, there is no birth or death. What is Real is always Real and does not come and go. Sri Ramana emphasized that as well. So, it all depends on how one looks at things and the context of the conversation. Words only take us so far. As far as your question about "What is the meaning of life", I can't really say. People have different explanations. Since we are in life and life is in us, it may not be possible to stand outside the "system" so to speak and say what the definitive meaning of life is. But who knows? We have many wise people here, Gregji, Samji (Sadanandaji), Tonyji, Joyceji, Gloriaji (Yes, Gloriaji has the answers!), Toombaruji (what a name), Bhuvanji, Alji, Davidji, Vickji, Simonji, Pieterji, Bruceji, Danji, Jerryji, Kartaji, Benji, Mazieji, Ericji, Ericji, Jeannieji, Dirkji, Jillji, Eciradaji (Jan), Daleji, Carolji, Markji, Kheyalaji, and otherjis. Someone should have the answer. Here is to all the Ji's, mentioned and unmentioned. Lots of love Harsha Lady Joyce wrote: Thank you Harsha, for searching out both of these stories of wisdom. Each one has its own special significance for me and I guess that is why I was moved to pursue the question with you ================================================= Yaksha asks Yuddishtra : " What is the greatest wonder in the world?" Reply by Yuddishtra is: "Every day, men see creatures depart to yama's abode and yet, those remain, seek to live for ever. This verily is the greatest wonder" =================================================================== And so it is. Lord Yama, come get me, please...I am all dressed up with no place to go :-) For those who may have missed Harsha's explanation in his first post, Yama is the Lord of Death. Harsha, you also wrote... According to the Yogic view, Death is only a temporary solution but still a wonderful thing to meditate on. In fact, it can be the door way to prepare for Self-Realization. In India, Sadhus and aspirants often meditate on cremation grounds on the nature of death. Can you expand on what you mean when you say...death is only a temporary solution? Relying upon concepts, which is all I can do to express myself in words, are you referring to death as a temporary solution in between incarnations until Moksha is attained? Yet, there are those who argue that there is no karma, there is no existence at all... All is Maya...if that is so, then why are we even talking about it at all? In other words, Harshaji, what is the meaning of Life? Love, Joyce e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Don't forget Harsha-ji... - Harsha Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:35 PM Re: Re: Re: Yuddishtra and the Daksha Dear Joyce,Yes, according to most Eastern traditions, Death" is a temporary reprieve or a break and the person reincarnates again. There are some remarkable accounts of people being able to remember their past life and recount in accurate details which were verified. This happened a few times at Sri Ramanaashram as well.Sri Ramana always said that the use of techniques to recall past lives was a complete waste of time. However, it can happen spontaneously as well.From an Advaitic perspective, there is no birth or death. What is Real is always Real and does not come and go. Sri Ramana emphasized that as well. So, it all depends on how one looks at things and the context of the conversation. Words only take us so far. As far as your question about "What is the meaning of life", I can't really say. People have different explanations.Since we are in life and life is in us, it may not be possible to stand outside the "system" so to speak and say what the definitive meaning of life is. But who knows? We have many wise people here, Gregji, Samji (Sadanandaji), Tonyji, Joyceji, Gloriaji (Yes, Gloriaji has the answers!), Toombaruji (what a name), Bhuvanji, Alji, Davidji, Vickji, Simonji, Pieterji, Bruceji, Danji, Jerryji, Kartaji, Benji, Mazieji, Ericji, Ericji, Jeannieji, Dirkji, Jillji, Eciradaji (Jan), Daleji, Carolji, Markji, Kheyalaji, and otherjis. Someone should have the answer.Here is to all the Ji's, mentioned and unmentioned.Lots of loveHarshaLady Joyce wrote: Thank you Harsha, for searching out both of these stories of wisdom. Each one has its own special significance for me and I guess that is why I was moved to pursue the question with you ================================================= Yaksha asks Yuddishtra : " What is the greatest wonder in the world?"Reply by Yuddishtra is:"Every day, men see creatures depart to yama's abode and yet, those remain, seek to live for ever. This verily is the greatest wonder" =================================================================== And so it is. Lord Yama, come get me, please...I am all dressed up with no place to go :-) For those who may have missed Harsha's explanation in his first post, Yama is the Lord of Death. Harsha, you also wrote... According to the Yogic view, Death is only a temporary solution but still a wonderful thing to meditate on. In fact, it can be the door way to prepare for Self-Realization. In India, Sadhus and aspirants often meditate on cremation grounds on the nature of death. Can you expand on what you mean when you say...death is only a temporary solution? Relying upon concepts, which is all I can do to express myself in words, are you referring to death as a temporary solution in between incarnations until Moksha is attained? Yet, there are those who argue that there is no karma, there is no existence at all... All is Maya...if that is so, then why are we even talking about it at all? In other words, Harshaji, what is the meaning of Life? Love, Joyce e. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Respected Sir, Since you have included my name,and since you are a noble soul,seeking the blessings of my most beloved Master Sri Samkara Bhagavatpujyapada,let this beggar try to to tell you what life means to me: Q : What is the meaning of life? Answer: This is semantics,Lady Joy! Every Object has three stages in its production : karana sarira:sukshma sarira;and sthu:la sarira. You are all more learned than I am. So i don't have to tell you what these are ! There is another dimension to every object. Why it has been created or used?That is its function.wWhen an object is created ,it is created for a function.The function is derived from the svabhavam of the creator of the object.His svabhavam is created from his Karma Phalam.As a creator's karma is so will be his svabhavam and as his svabhavam is so will be his meaning( karana sarira) and as his meaning is so will be his actions and objects of actions,and instruments of actions. THE MEANING OF EACH MAN'S LIFE IS HIS KARANA SARIRA, WHICH IS THE KARMA HE HAS CREATED FOR HIMSELF!This karma manifests as his body,as his mind and as his actions - physical,mental and vocal- which constitute his earthly life as it were!!!! This karma is the meaning !This karma is the meaning!This karma is the meaning! ESWARA, who is BHuvaneswara, has no karma of his own but his karma(!!!! ) is to create all of us to experience the meaning of our lives,that is the karma phalam of our lives!!!! Where are the icons? Please put them as you like !!!YAhoooooooOMMMMMM! it is my karma to talk about proverbs and beg people to do something about them.God wants me to tell myself that I am the BHUVANESWARA ( the Lord of the Universe) and I forgot that and I am begging and crying but NOWWW I am laughing, because only yesterday I saw the FULL MOON Lady Joy - the creationgraph of the 21 century.By the by ,patent it immediately ,lest Rahu and Kethu jealous of you will swallow it!!! Q2: What is the meaning of meaning? if you know this you will know the meaning of life.Life itself is A meaning.It is one of the meanings of GGGOOODDDD.Knowing is meaning ,Lady Joy. Since You have joined The Proverbiallinguistics group,YOU will certainly the meaning of life this way and that way and every way. Only Blessed people who have the permission of Arunachala can enter the place ,ie,tiruvannamalai.So also only blessed people who have the permission of Sri Saradamba can become members of my group. When I go to Sringeri , I will pass your question to my beloved master and get confirmation from and then I will write a poem on this ,only for you,because Your are LADY jOY!!! You know,even an impoverished beggar will become a king at the lotus feet of my Master !!! Right NOWWW, the internet cafe bill is shooting!!! Paroissien,gajam midhya ,palayanam midhya!!! in case the cafe man does not know about it,let me wind it up for safety !!! HHaaVV!!! HHAAVV!!! I am the moon! The clouds are moving! LLLOVVEEE, BHUVANESWAR On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 Harsha wrote : >Dear Joyce, > >Yes, according to most Eastern traditions, Death" is a temporary >reprieve or a break and the person reincarnates again. There are >some remarkable accounts of people being able to remember their >past life and recount in accurate details which were verified. >This happened a few times at Sri Ramanaashram as well. > >Sri Ramana always said that the use of techniques to recall past >lives was a complete waste of time. However, it can happen >spontaneously as well. > > From an Advaitic perspective, there is no birth or death. What >is Real is always Real and does not come and go. Sri Ramana >emphasized that as well. So, it all depends on how one looks at >things and the context of the conversation. Words only take us so >far. > >As far as your question about "What is the meaning of life", I >can't really say. People have different explanations. > >Since we are in life and life is in us, it may not be possible to >stand outside the "system" so to speak and say what the >definitive meaning of life is. But who knows? We have many wise >people here, Gregji, Samji (Sadanandaji), Tonyji, Joyceji, >Gloriaji (Yes, Gloriaji has the answers!), Toombaruji (what a >name), Bhuvanji, Alji, Davidji, Vickji, Simonji, Pieterji, >Bruceji, Danji, Jerryji, Kartaji, Benji, Mazieji, Ericji, Ericji, >Jeannieji, Dirkji, Jillji, Eciradaji (Jan), Daleji, Carolji, >Markji, Kheyalaji, and otherjis. Someone should have the >answer. > >Here is to all the Ji's, mentioned and unmentioned. >Lots of love >Harsha > > >Lady Joyce wrote: > >>Thank you Harsha, for searching out both of these stories of >>wisdom. Each one has its own special significance for me and I >>guess that is why I was moved to pursue the question with you >> ================================================= >> Yaksha asks Yuddishtra : >>" What is the greatest wonder in the world?" >> >>Reply by Yuddishtra is: >> >>"Every day, men see creatures depart to yama's abode and yet, >>those >>remain, seek to live for ever. This verily is the greatest >>wonder" >> >>=================================================================== >> And so it is. Lord Yama, come get me, please...I am all >>dressed up with no place to go :-) >>For those who may have missed Harsha's explanation in his first >>post, Yama is the Lord of Death. >> Harsha, you also wrote... >> According to the Yogic view, Death is only a temporary >>solution but still a wonderful thing to meditate on. In fact, it >>can be the door way to prepare for Self-Realization. In India, >>Sadhus and aspirants often meditate on cremation grounds on the >>nature of death. >> Can you expand on what you mean when you say...death is only a >>temporary solution? >>Relying upon concepts, which is all I can do to express myself >>in words, are you referring >>to death as a temporary solution in between incarnations until >>Moksha is attained? >> Yet, there are those who argue that there is no karma, there >>is no existence at all... >>All is Maya...if that is so, then why are we even talking about >>it at all? In other words, Harshaji, what is the meaning of >>Life? >> Love, >> Joyce >> >> >> >> >> e <>. > _ Interior meets Software; Rani Weds Gaurav. Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match Visit http://matchmaker.rediff.com?1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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