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  1. You are the one who started this. I never criticized Srila Prabhupada, who you call A.C. Bhativedanta Swami.
  2. Compare and examine. Go right ahead and do that. Look at both sides. And as well as that just take note of the fact Srila Prabhupada wrote this: AND You find some differences between the teachings of Srila Sridhar Maharaj and Srila Prabhupada. You will also find Srila Prabhupada wrote things that contradict what Srila Prabhupada wrote elsewhere: "The conclusion is that no one falls from the spiritual world, or Vaikuntha planet, for it is the eternal abode" (Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.16.26, purport) AND "The original home of the living entity and the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the spiritual world. In the spiritual world both the Lord and the living entities live together very peacefully. Since the living entity remains engaged in the service of the Lord, they both share a blissful life in the spiritual world. However, when the living entity, misusing his tiny independence, wants to enjoy himself, he falls down into the material world." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.28.54, purport) What are you supposed to think when you read this sort of anomoly? Srila Sridhar Maharaj gave the example that in the beginning a child is told the earth moves around the sun and that the sun is stationary. Then when the child is more learned he is told that the sun is also moving inside a galaxy. To give another example, in Bhagavad gita we see Krishna teaching different kinds of yogas and that Krishna says if you cannot follow the highest path then try to folllow an easier path: According to a person's intelligence he will accept whatever path seems best to himself. If you cannot follow one path youself, don't criticize the path. Realize that your intelligence is limited but that God's grace is unlimited and that through many Gurus the One God is revealing himself to humankind. If you criticize a real Vaishnava such as Srila Sridhar Maharaj then you may end up suffering a similar fate to other people who attacked him such as Kirtananda, Bhavananda and Harikesa. Do you want to end up as a mentally ill drug addict taking sedatives, like Satsvarupa? Satsvarupa wrote an article attacking Srila Sridhar Maharaj and some people imagined Satsvarupa's article was very clever and that he was a big scholar. But look and see the sort of person that Satsvarupa has become now! The man has to go to a psychiatrist to get counselling for his mental illness!
  3. Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj's "chief" disciples: Srila Bhakti Sundar Govinda Dev Goswami (his chosen successor) initiated 1947 Sripad Bhakti Prasun Aranya Maharaj (Krishnasharan brahmacari, previously) initiated 1942 Sri Haricharan Brahmacari initiated circa 1950 Sri Bhakti Kiran Giri Maharaj (an initiated disciple of B.S.Goswami) initiated circa 1950 Sripad B.D. Damodar Maharaj (Subal Sakha) initiated circa 1960 Sripad B.P. Tirtha Maharaj (Prappana Krishna) initiated circa 1970 Nimaisundar Brahmacari (B.Nandan Swami) born 1960 in the family of a disciple Krishnamayi dasi (very old bengali brahmin lady) 1943 There were thousands of disciples who were initiated between 1942 and 1970, but these people listed above were the "chief" disciples who lived with Guru Maharaj at the temple in Nabadwip. Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj never had any prominent disciple whose name is Gaura. And aside from this, Thakur Bhaktivinode was a grhasta and if Srila Sridhar Maharaj considered A.C. Bhaktivedanta Das to be a grhasta when A.C. Bhaktivedanta Das was living with his wife in Kolkata, what is the mistake in that? Also, cbrahma, you are giving this quote by Srila Prabhupada about how bad it is that a homosexual became a guru in the Gaudiya Math. But in your another quote you have quoted Prabhupada talking with Bhavananda, a homosexual who became a Guru in ISKCON. How ironic! In one quote Prabhupada is telling it is bad that Srila Sridhar Maharaj supported a homosexual such as Vasudeva. But Prabhupada himself gave a powerful position in ISKCON to Bhavananda and Kirtananda - both of whom are homosexuals. In the Turley legal action against child abusers in ISKCON, the following information about Bhavananda was presented to the court. Srila Sridhar Maharaj is criticized for giving passive support to the new Acharya Anantavasudeva, who was chosen by the Gaudiya Math GBC. But Srila Sridhar Maharaj was not a member of the committee and he never in fact voted for Anantavasudeva. Nevertheless, Srila Sridhar Maharaj is criticized for the fact he was affiliated with Anantavasudeva. The question then arises, what about the affiliation of Bhavananda with Srila Prabhupada? Srila Sridhar Maharaj is criticized for living in the same temple as Anantavasudev (Bagh Bazaar). But what about the fact that Srila Prabhupada put Bhavananda in the powerful position that Bhavananda used to have in ISKCON?
  4. Srila Prabhupada said some positive and some negative things about Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj. He said other contradictory things too. For instance whether the soul comes from Brahman or Goloka-lila. Or, how many syllables are in the mantra om namo bhagavate vasudevaya? When we are confronted with this sort of anomoly we have to use our intelligence and decide which of the statements we choose to believe. Another contradiction: This quote from CC contradicts what is written in the letter to Rupanuga. Here in CC, Srila Prabhupada is blaming the secretaries for the break up of the Gaudiya Math. The secretaries he is blaming are people who "wanted to occupy the post of Acarya". Clearly this is a reference to Anantavasudeva and Bhaktivilasa Tirtha. Anantavasudeva, Bhaktivilasa Tirtha and Paramananda Vidyaratna were the secretaries. Srila Sridhar Maharaj was never a secretary to Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura. Nor was he ever, at any time, a member of the Gaudiya Math GBC. Srila Sridhar Maharaj was not present at the meeting of the Gaudiya Math GBC when the GBC members began the break up of the Gaudiya Math. So why should he be blamed for something other people did? Another contradiction: If Srila Prabhupada really considered Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj to be the cause of the breakup of the Gaudiya Math, then why did he try to set up another organization with Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj as the head? Why also did he ask Srila Sridhar Dev Goswami Maharaj to sit beside him on the Vyasasana, the seat that Srila Prabhupada said is reserved for the real Guru, at the opening of the Candrodaya Mandir? Anomolies and contradictions. Intelligent people (sumedhasah) will see what is right and true.
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