Acyutananda das

Dear Guruvani pr! So, it appears that the Krishna-prema of the shanta-rasa is a most undeveloped and immature form of Krishna-prema of the lowest standard. There's no Krshna-prema in shanta rasa. According to the Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu, this extremly concentrated love for Krishna is characterized by mamanta (possessivenes) or madiyatamaya-bhava - the feeling of "You are mine". This is only possible in personal relationship. In the shanta rasa one only have the tadiyatamaya bhava - the feeling of "I'm Yours". So there's no prema in shanta rasa. But the verse speaks about prema. So our original position is a personal relationship (not shanta rasa) with the Lord. ys, Acyutananda das

Dear Guruvani pr! So, it appears that the Krishna-prema of the shanta-rasa is a most undeveloped and immature form of Krishna-prema of the lowest standard. There's no Krshna-prema in shanta rasa. According to the Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu, this extremly concentrated love for Krishna is characterized by mamanta (possessivenes) or madiyatamaya-bhava - the feeling of "You are mine". This is only possible in personal relationship. In the shanta rasa one only have the tadiyatamaya bhava - the feeling of "I'm Yours". So there's no prema in shanta rasa. But the verse speaks about prema. So our original position is a personal relationship (not shanta rasa) with the Lord. ys, Acyutananda das

Dear Guruvani pr! So, it appears that the Krishna-prema of the shanta-rasa is a most undeveloped and immature form of Krishna-prema of the lowest standard. There's no Krshna-prema in shanta rasa. According to the Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu, this extremly concentrated love for Krishna is characterized by mamanta (possessivenes) or madiyatamaya-bhava - the feeling of "You are mine". This is only possible in personal relationship. In the shanta rasa one only have the tadiyatamaya bhava - the feeling of "I'm Yours". So there's no prema in shanta rasa. But the verse speaks about prema. So our original position is a personal relationship (not shanta rasa) with the Lord. ys, Acyutananda das

Yes, I quoted this verse (Caitanya Caritamrita. Madhya 22.107.) in the another topic, because Guruvani wanted shastric evidences. So we can find many evidences like this - the Truth is on Your side Vigraha!!!

And what about this verse: Caitanya Caritamrita. Madhya 22.107. nitya-siddha krsna-prema ‘sädhya’ kabhu naya çravaëädi-çuddha-citte karaye udaya “Pure love for Krsna is eternally established in the hearts of the living entities. It is not something to be gained from another source. When the heart is purified by hearing and chanting, this love naturally awakens." Do yoou think the soul has Krsna prema in shanta rasa. This verse clearly states that Krsna prema is not something to be gained from another source. So our original position is not something to be gained from another source...

Guruvani pr! Caitanya Caritamrita. Madhya 22.107. You wanted sastric evidences... Caitanya Caritamrita. Madhya 22.107. nitya-siddha krsna-prema ‘sädhya’ kabhu naya çravaëädi-çuddha-citte karaye udaya “Pure love for Krsna is eternally established in the hearts of the living entities. It is not something to be gained from another source. When the heart is purified by hearing and chanting, this love naturally awakens." ... so there is no contradiction. The Sastra explains that in our original position we have Krsna prema. In santa rasa (that is our original position in your opinion )can we find Krsna prema?

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