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  1. In hinduism, there are many things that science can't proove and has prooven. Such as when we say trees are living, science proves that later on. Or about the bridge between india and sri lanka, science has been able to see that using sattelite systems. So from this, do you think that most facts in hinduism are going to be proven slowly by science as everything that hinduism says is true?


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    Jai Shri Krishna.

     

    I have 2 questions regarding this philisophy of the multidimensional/planetary hari-dham (spiritual world)

     

    1) With exception to Gaudiya and Pushtimarg works (Chaitanya charitamrita etc), where in the authorative scritptures (ie. Shruti, Statvika puranas, Ithihasas and Vaishnava Agamas) is it exaplained that Vaikuntha loka/hari dham is divided into Goloka, Ayodhya, Vaikuntha?

     

    2) Also if a jiva (living entity) atains liberation in haridham, can they move about freely from all the different planets in Haridham? ie. go from Golok to Ayodhya by will?

    In bhagavatam purana, it is stated that whenever the supreme incarnated, he brings his original home to earth just as he did in rama avatar, krishna avatar, and chaitanya mahaprabhu avatar. All this is explained in the bhagavat purana. for 2nd question, whoever you worship, that is where you would go to. If you dearly worship krishna, you go to goloka. Vishnu-Vaikuntha, and rama-ayodhya. They all provide unlimited enjoyment, pastimes, and service to the supreme. they are not really different because rama, vishnu, and krishna are all one. But krishna is the original personality of godhead and his plant goloka is the biggest planet shaped like a lotus. I do not know the simple yes/no response as probably nothing has been said about your question.

  3. Hari Dhaama is a dhaama of goloka, mathura, dwarika, navadvipa, and ayodhya, and vaikuntha. the dhamas are collectively named hari dhaama since krishna is the original hari from everyone else such as rama, chaitanya mahaprabhu incarnate.

    The reason (in your explanation), goloka (krishna), hari (in this case vishnu) and ayodhya (rama) are seperarted is because these are the 3 main dhamas among haari dhama. In goloka, krishna eternally resides, in vaikuntha (in you caase hari dhama)-4 armed form of lord vishnu resides, and in ayodhya-lord rama eternally resides. Dvarika, navadvipa, and mathura are not mentioned is because 1) the lord himself does not incarnate to rid the earth of evil and 2) these are not krishna's homes, but the places he lived after he left his home. None the less, all dhamas are very important and contain a form of the supreme.


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    Is this the whole list?

     

    Hari-dhama:

    1. Goloka Vrindavana

    2. Navadvipa

    3. Mathura

    4. Dvaraka

    5. Ayodhya

    6. Vaikuntha

     

    Mahesa-dhama

     

    Devi-dhama:

    1. Satya-loka

    2. Tapa-loka

    3. Jana-loka

    4. Mahar-loka

    5. Svar-loka

    6. Bhuvar-loka

    7. Bhur-loka

    8. Atala-loka

    9. Vitala-loka

    10. Sutala-loka

    11. Talatala-loka

    12. Mahatala-loka

    13. Rasatala-loka

    14. Patala-loka

     

    *Hari-dhama is anti-material world;

    Devi-dhama is material world;

    Mahesa-dhama is between them.

     

    Is this correct?

    yes


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    Also in that website it is mentioned that there are three dhamas.

     

    Hari-dhama (vaikuntha?)

     

    Devi-dhama

     

    with Hari-dhama as spiritual (antimaterial) world, and Devi-dhama as material world.

     

    Third dhama is Mahesa-dhama, which is between spiritual and material world.

     

    Is this correct?

    yes, there are others as well but these might be the most important. As for other questions, they might not show ayodhya because it is the kingdom of lord ram while the other 4 are kingdoms of lord krishna. and because almost all sites focus on lord krishna, only description of his kingdom is given. Despite the fact that chaitanya mahaprabhu and lord ram are lord krishna himself, they will now show navadvipa or ayodhya as they do not have anything to do with krishna himself( in his original form).


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    The eternal form of Lord Siva is the Sadasiva who is actually a form of Maha-Vishu.

     

    Siva and Maha-Vishnu are the same, but when Maha-Vishnu has to engage with Maya Devi he must transform himself into Siva to do that.

     

    There are 11 forms of Siva known in the universe and residing in different places at the same time.

     

    In the end all these forms of Siva must merge back into Sadasiva.

     

    Siva tattva is very mysterious.

     

    It's very difficult to fully understand Siva tattva.

     

    But apparently Sadasiva has his spiritual realm in the Viraja-river which is the spiritual water that seperates the brahmandas from the Vaikuntha.

     

    So, the eternal Sadasivaloka is in the Viraja, not in Vaikuntha proper.

    I agree, here is an interesting link:

    http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/planetarium/index.htm


  7. In the krishna series, Shri Krishna's teacher sandipani described the ART OF DYING which may be one of the most important things you can do or learn. In it, he said, at the last moment of life, chant the supreme lord's name and be in a state of supreme lord's conciousness. I also heard from some one that by doing this at the last moment, that person attains the supreme lord and he is relieved from the circle of life and death. Does anyone have any specific reference from bhagavatam or other puranas so i can read it? or if you have anything to add to this.


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    I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in what I saw on a Hindu movie out of Bollywood.

     

    Siva Purana is amongst the tamasic Puranas that were meant to reach men in the mode of tama guna and give them some sort of religious principles.

     

    Vaishnavas follow the sattvic Puranas that are devoid of such blurred conceptions of Parabrahman.

    Can you tell me where in mahabharat there is a story of when durvasa muni comes to pandava in the forest. There is decides to eat at the pandava's hut after taking a bath. But since there is no food, they call upon Lord Shri Krishna and he satisfies the Munis with only 1 grain of rice. Can you tell me which parva this story is located in and which section? i want to see what mahabharat says about lord sri krishna about the fact that he says he goes to shiva everytime he in in trouble.

    (by the way, in shiva purana, after the story i told above is said, according to the purana, Shri krishna says "let us all pray to shiva and that everytime i am in need of help and assistance, i take refuge in shiva". that is the reason i want to see what mahabharat says) thanks.


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    In the Krishna-lila we hear that Krishna once had to leave Dwaraka to hunt down the missing brother of Satrajit who had went off to the forest on a horse with the Syamantaka jewel around his neck.

    Prasena was shorty thereafter killed by a lion who took the jewel to his cave.

    When the king of the gorillas Jambavan got news of this he went to the lion's cave, killed the lion and took the Syamantaka jewel and gave it to his young son to play with.

     

    To make a story short, Krishna eventually found the dead body of Prasena and the dead lion and discovered that Jambavan had killed the lion and taken the Syamantaka jewel.

     

    Anyway, there was a great fight between Lord Krishna and Jambavan that lasted for 28 days.

     

    Eventually, Jambavan realized that only the Supreme Personality of Godhead had the power to fight him so powerfully.

     

    Anyway, Jambavan heard the story of the jewel from Lord Krishna and gave it to him as well as his daughter in marriage.

     

    Now, let me get this right.

    Jambavan was a gorilla.

    He gave his daughter to Krishna for his wife.

     

    Krishna had a gorilla girl for a wife?(Jambavati)

     

    somebody help me here...................

     

    I mean, it sounds like one of Krishna's wives was a gorilla girl.

     

    That is all I can figure.

    I was watching shiv mahapuran, and there was a story that jambavati was his wife but she looked like a normal female. The purana shows that shri krishna did penance to please shiva and get the boon of getting a son. and that son would be responsible for the end of yadu dynasty.


  10. Well, the linga/shiv purana was recited by vedavyas student so i don't know what to believe. In the bhagavad gita i read:

    (Chapter 10, verse 23) Shri Krishna tells Arjun:

    "Of all the Rudras I am Lord Shiva, of the Yakṣas and Rākṣasas I am the Lord of wealth , of the Vasus I am fire , and of mountains I am meru."

     

    So if narsimha was an avatar of supreme, he is still above all gods and demigods and this avatar's death (by killing) is impossible. Sri Krishna says he is Shiva and all other things as explained so shri krishna expands into shiva.

    As for all the wired versions i read of narasimha drinking blood or lord vishnu fainting due to fear, these are absurd, where did you get these stories? any specific reference?


  11. I read some great responses and they do help clear things up a bit. But the puranas may have been altered as someone said. I also read the shiv puran was recited by discipline of sri veda vyas and the discipline was later killed by sri balarama in srimad bhagavatam for bad deeds.

    I look at what the lord himself said about himself in the Bhagavad Gita. SHri Krishna says he is the supreme truth with no truth above him. he also describes himself as neverborn, controller of all things, and who expands into everything. So i look at this and see tha he can't be lying to Arjun. In mahabharat, it also says Shri Krishna was speaking to TIME as well as Arjun to address questions of future generations. All the puranas are confusing even though writen by 1 person, that means they have been altered but Krishna (also known as hari, vishnu, rama) is the supreme truth.


  12. virbhadra is a manifestation from shiva. In the linga purana, it says that after narsimha avatar killed hiranyakashyapu, he was more enraged and decided to destroy the universe. paniced, everyone went to shiva and shiva manifested virbhadra. virbhadra confronts narsimha and makes him understand but narsimha gets enraged and attacks virbhadra. as a result, virbhadra cuts off narasimha's head and kills him. in the purana, it says though that it only killed the avatar, and not vishnu himself. Do you think this really happened, that shiv manifestation killed vishnu avatar? ( i don't know because avatar is when god himself descends to do some task, this would mean vishnu himself descended as narasimha and that narsimha got slain.)

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