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Peace and Blessings of God be upon you all! Brother has quoted from Rigved, Book. No. 1, Hymn No. 164, Verse No. 46 "...Sages call one God by many names" And he says that the above quotation is suitable for advaita philosophy, I still dont understand why is that people are trying to belive in some philosophies, attitudes, viewpoints .. When the scripture is clear and very very much apparent potraying the CONCEPT OF GOD, "Ekam evadvitiyam" "He is One only without a second." WITHOUT A SECOND ! [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1] "Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah." "Of Him there are neither parents nor lord." WITHOUT A PARENT ! [svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9] "Na tasya pratima asti" "There is no likeness of Him." NO IMAGE ! [svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19] The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form: "Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam." "His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye." PONDER ON THIS!! [svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20] The scriptures are clear! No ifs and buts... If you are a vedantist then.. The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God: "na tasya pratima asti "There is NO IMAGE of Him." [Yajurveda 32:3] "shudhama poapvidham" "He is BODYLESS and pure." [Yajurveda 40:8]6 "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste" "They enter DARKNESS, those who WORSHIP the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."[Yajurveda 40:9] Sambhuti means created things, idols and other manifestations . Further The Yajurveda contains the following prayer: "Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander." [Yajurveda 40:16] Well if you are still looking for God's image, you better pray to God with the above verse from [Yajurveda 40:16] to lead you to GOOD path and remove sin that makes you stray and wander in search of TRUTH, when the TRUTH is all there in your own Hands, in your Homes . I see that people are bound to give Image to God , But the Holy Scriptures has put a big FULL STOP to it! And it says that people who worship SAMBHUTI will be more in DARKNESS!!!! May God Guide You all with Truth!

Peace and Blessings of God be up on you all! Well rightly said by Vaishnava das108, The Qur'an is the principal source of every Muslim's faith and practice. It deals with all subjects that concern us as human beings, including wisdom, doctrine, worship and law; but its basic theme is the relationship between God and His creatures. At the same time, the Qur'an provides guidelines for a just society, proper human conduct and equitable economic principles. Apart from the Quran.. Yes, the sunnah, sometimes referred to as the hadith, the practice and example of the Prophet, is the second source of inspiration and instruction for Muslims. Belief in the sunnah is part of the Islamic faith. Well...Coming back to topic, brother Vaishnav has quoted the sayings of the Prophet Muhammed(Peace be up on him) from the collection of Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Hadith No.414, where the Prophet talks about the Genesis. It is not that if the narrator was sitting there listening to the Prophet, he would have described about Allah's image..I dont know why people are trying to give image to the non-comparable ONE! The best answer that any one can give you, regarding 'the Concept of Almighty God in Islam',is quote to you the Surah(Chapter) of the Holy Qur'an, Surah Ikhlas(The Purity), Chapter No. 112, Verse No. 1 to 4, which says: "Say: He is Allah the One and Only; Allah the Eternal Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him." Similar to the message that is given in the Holy Qur'an in Surah Anam, Chapter No.6 Verse No.103 "No vision can grasp Him, but He grasps all vision, He is beyond comprehension, yet He is acquainted with all things". This sums up the whole argument and warns us specially against Anthropomorphism (taking human forms), the tendency to conceive of Allah after our own pattern, an insidous tendency that creeps in at all times and among all peoples. And coming to your second part of discussion, bro Vaishnav talks about that he came across arguments of someone with some Pathans, who is trying to give some Image to al mighty God. I Just want to say Mr.Vaishnav the same thing what The Quran says in chapter 2 and verse 111 "...Produce your PROOF if Ye are truthful" Produce the proof Mr. Vaishnav if you are truthful!!! Furthermore... Let us glance into hindu scriptures.. It is mentioned in the verse of the Sweta Sutara Upanishads, Chapter 4 Verse 20, that "His form cannot be seen, No one can see Him with the eyes" It is mentioned in the Yajurved, Chapter 32, Verse 3 "Natasti Pratima Asti" - There is no image of Him. And verse continues and says that "He is unborn, and He should be worshipped" It is mentioned in the Yajurved, Chapter 40, Verse 8, that "God is bodyless and Pure". It is mentioned in the Yajurved, Chapter 40, Verse 9, that "Andasma Pravishanti Ya Sambaiti Upaste", which means - "They are entering darkness those who worship the Asambuti". The 'Asambuti' are the natural things like air, water, fire. And the verse continues... "they are sinking more in darkness, those who worship the 'Sambuti' ". The "Sambuti" are the "created things" like Idols and other manifestation. Expecting a Rebutal!

UPANISHADS: The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God: "Ekam evadvitiyam" "He is One only without a second." [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1] "Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah." "Of Him there are neither parents nor lord." [svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9] "Na tasya pratima asti" "There is no likeness of Him." [svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19] The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form: "Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam." "His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye." [svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20] THE VEDAS Yajurveda The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God: "na tasya pratima asti "There is no image of Him." [Yajurveda 32:3] "shudhama poapvidham" "He is bodyless and pure." [Yajurveda 40:8] "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste" "They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti." [Yajurveda 40:9] Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc. The Yajurveda contains the following prayer: "Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander." [Yajurveda 40:16] The following verse from the Rigveda Book 8, hymn 1, verse 1 refer to the Unity and Glory of the Supreme Being: "Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata" "O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone." [Rigveda 8:1:1] "Devasya samituk parishtutih" "Verily, great is the glory of the Divine Creator." [Rigveda 5:1:81] Brahma Sutra of Hinduism: The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is: "Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan" "There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit." Thus only a dispassionate study of the Hindu scriptures can help one understand the concept of God in Hinduism.