Tirisilex

Actually I've found that a Schizo cannot be locked up in the U.S. unless they display violent behavior. Such as suicide and aggressive behavior against others. So you could hug a tree.. and walk in public like a peacock and they couldnt send you away.

Actually I've found that a Schizo cannot be locked up in the U.S. unless they display violent behavior. Such as suicide and aggressive behavior against others. So you could hug a tree.. and walk in public like a peacock and they couldnt send you away.

I'm absolubtly amazed at the replies I'm getting in this forum. In the Buddhist Forum I am also a part of they seem to be almost scared in trying to define and suggest practices schizophrenia.. They all have said that Schizophrenics are incapable of understanding buddhist philosophy and therefore should focus only on Physical Based practices such as Tai Chi. Where as here the responses have been defining the nature of the schizophrenic.. The Buddhist forum does agree that Schizophrenia is a Karmic problem.. but it seems that is far as they will go in talking about the disease. Thank you all for your wonderful responses

I'm absolubtly amazed at the replies I'm getting in this forum. In the Buddhist Forum I am also a part of they seem to be almost scared in trying to define and suggest practices schizophrenia.. They all have said that Schizophrenics are incapable of understanding buddhist philosophy and therefore should focus only on Physical Based practices such as Tai Chi. Where as here the responses have been defining the nature of the schizophrenic.. The Buddhist forum does agree that Schizophrenia is a Karmic problem.. but it seems that is far as they will go in talking about the disease. Thank you all for your wonderful responses

I know that Christianity looks at Schizophrenia as Demonic Oppression. They believe that a Schiz sufferrer needs a deliverance from a faith healer in order to be healed. I havent found much information on the Buddhist outlook. However what I have found is that they strongly stress in meditation that experience is illusion. Much more so than with normal practitioners because of the nature of the disease. I've never found any Buddhist specific practices for sufferers like the the Christians do. It has been suggested to do the Medicine Buddha practice but as I said nothing geared specificaly for Schizophrenia. How does the Hindu religion look at and treat Schizophrenia?

I know that Christianity looks at Schizophrenia as Demonic Oppression. They believe that a Schiz sufferrer needs a deliverance from a faith healer in order to be healed. I havent found much information on the Buddhist outlook. However what I have found is that they strongly stress in meditation that experience is illusion. Much more so than with normal practitioners because of the nature of the disease. I've never found any Buddhist specific practices for sufferers like the the Christians do. It has been suggested to do the Medicine Buddha practice but as I said nothing geared specificaly for Schizophrenia. How does the Hindu religion look at and treat Schizophrenia?

Thank you.. that clears it up for me. I was getting a brain cramp from that question because it seemed so contradictory. (Did I spell that correctly?)

How is Kama different than the Lust stated in the Gita?

Greetings, For those who havent seen my last posts (Which wasnt much) I'm a Practicing Vajrayana Buddhist. I've been researching Hinduism and trying to find the similarities and differences between Hinduism and Buddhism. In Buddhism there are 3 mental poisons. These are Desire (Attraction), Aversion (Fear, Anger) and Ignorance. I've read that in Hinduism there are 3 great aims in life.. Dharma, Wealth, and Kama (Desire) My question is: Does Hinduism have a teaching similar to the Buddhist 3 mental poisons? And if so is the Kama aim in life a different kind of desire? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sarasvati: Great!! Thank you.. This helps alot.. Perhaps you can clarify something else for me. How exactly does the Mahabharata relate to the Puranas? I read on this site that is generaly known as Histories. However the Mahabharata Ive been reading in the Indian Philosophy book I have doesnt reaf like a History.. It seems more to be like guidelines. I read on a website that the Mahabharata speaks of the Birth of Kama being the son of Dharma. Is the book I'm reading not really excerpts from the Mahabharata or is the website claiming the story in the wrong place?

Karthik: Thank you for your reply.. I did find one picture of a wall sculpture that has Kama and Rati together.. However It was not a very good jpeg and I couldnt see much detail.. Last night I was reading a printout I had on another version of the Buddha's enlightnement story. As I had said in my post to Ram I have been finding many different versions of the story some have greater descriptions of the event than others. I had read 3 but the one I read I last night was different. One story has Mara sending 3 daughters, another 8.. I know that these are representative of samsaric qualities but I'm trying to understand the sources of the names and such. The story I read last night was much more descriptive than the ones I've previously had the pleasure of knowing.. This one had references about Mara. I found that in Buddhist philosophy Mara is Kama this I did not know.. This explains my confusion of why Rati's father wasnt the same in my understanding in Hindu Philosophy (Which is very limited) . I'm seeing the differences yet still not completely understanding the differences. My Lama focuses more on other things than the Buddha's story and I understand his reasons. I'm trying to be the good student and explore the stories and the influences with the extra time on my hands. I learned more about Kama which has been a help in understanding the only story I really Know that includes him. When Ram said he was cupid I thought he was just comparing him with a greek mythological god.. I didnt realise how similar the 2 are.. Kama has arrows that inspires or induces desires and I guess other feelings as well. Thank you for explaining Devas more fully I didnt know that they were considered impermenent in Hindu philosophy as well. Meaning that in Buddhist philosophy all things are impermenent.

The whole picture thing isnt really all that important to me.. I just wanted to see how she is depicted in pictures..

This is a reply to Ram: Are you a Guru? Because you sure sound like you are. I completely respect you.. And I give you the same respects as I do my Lama.. I understand your suggestion to look into Krishna is out of lovingkindness.. But yet I am still a Buddhist and I would enjoy talking with you about Krishna.. I feel I should make my Research a little more clear to you.. I'm not sure if you are familiar with the Story about the Buddha's Enlightenment under the Bodhi Tree.. There is a part to that story where Mara (Lord of Death and Temptation (I prefer to say 'distraction')) Sends his Daughters to tempt the Buddha. One of these daughters is named Rati or also she is called Raga (Daughter of Desire).. I have found that there are many variations of the story of the Buddha's enlightment. To help me get a better understanding of this story I am now looking into Hinduism and comparing the 2 philosophies.. I'm sure you are aware that the Buddha learned from Brahmans and I'm finding alot of what the Buddha teaches to be heavily influenced from Hindu philosophy.. More so than I had known. The teachings of compassion are just as incredible as the the teachings of compassion I have learned from My Lama.. I forgot to mention I'm a student of Tibetan Buddhism. My apologies.. What I have learned about Rati and how she relates to Hinduism so far has better shaped my views of what happened under the Bodhi Tree.. Although my knowledge is small still about Rati and where she stands.. Thanks to you and Karthik I have learned Much on where she stands.. I'm learning alot and Ive been really cramming on my studies.. I know knowledge isnt much without practice however Ignorance can be a hinderance to practice.. What I have learned has brought a greater appreciation for your beliefs and a better peace within myself.. My research on Rati has shown me that she may be much more innocent than the stories I have read may lead one to believe and that all in all the desire that the Buddha looked away from was not so much Rati trying to seduce him but the desire within himself. As you had said she is a Chaste wife to Kama. However I still do not know much about her as an Individual and I have found that there are Love stories between Kama and Rati however I am unable to locate them.. I do have access to some books but I do not know where to look. I have the Upanishads (though its a paperback and I would love to get one like the following book) Srimad Bhagavatam First Canto-Part One by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. One of the most beautiful layouts of a book Ive seen. I also have the Bhagavad Gita as well a Book on Indian Philosophy which is full of scriptures. I have been reading the Mahabharata in the Indian Philosophy book and it's quite beautiful. I hope this helps you understand where I stand.

Thank you Ram for yor reply.. It's definately information I don't have.. They dont have Pictures of Rati? I can find Pictures of other Hindu Gods and Goddesses how is she different in that aspect exactly? Please excuse my ignorance..

I'm doing in depth research on the Goddess Rati. I'm finding it very difficult to find adaquete information on her.. I would also like to find as many pictures of her as possible.. Is the book "The Love Teaching of Rati" available in english? if so where I could obtain it? I tried Amazon and could not find it there.. I'm kind of new to hinduism. Being an American Buddhist I know practicaly nothing of the Hindu Gods and Goddesses.. Ive been searching the net non stop for 2 days and have found very little on Rati.. Any info on Kama is Helpful as well (Being that he is her husband).. But I'm focusing my research on Rati.. Thank you for any help anyone can give me.. Tirisilex