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If anyone attacks North Korea, NK, who probably has the biggest artillary in the world, will destroy Seoul.

 

I think the Muslims are already dealing with judgement day, as the Sunnis and the Shiites are starting to slaughter each other in Iraq.

 

Islam is divided into two main factions that will be put in to the self-destruct mode when they no longer have the great-satan USA to fight with.

 

Take away Saddam and the USA and the Muslims with destroy themselves.

 

Go to wikipedia and look up "Battle of Karbala". The Mohammadans have been "dealing with judgment day" for 1300 years. Why will they finally destroy each other now?

 

Every generation has Chicken Little doomsayers.

 

I believe just about every so-called "GM Guru", including Srila Sridhar Maharaj, has disassociated themselves from "Gaudiya Math".

 

 

Sridhar Maharaja was never a GM (Gaudiya Matha) guru.

 

It is very bad practice to try and classify him as such.

 

Even after establishing his own Matha, Sridhar Maharaja was doubtful about accepting disciples. He only had a very few disciples.

 

Then, on an occasion of pilgrimage to Eka-chakra (birthplace of Nityananda prabhu), Lord Nityananda appeared to Sridhar Maharaja in a dream and told him not to be reluctant to accept disciples.

 

After that, Sridhar Maharaja was more open to accepting disciples into his Sri Caitanya Saraswata Matha.

 

Sridhar Maharaja was never a guru of the Gaudiya Matha institution.

 

Well excuuse me, prabhu. I only used the phrase "GM guru" within quotes, to quote how ISKCON and rtvks refer to everyone in the line of Bhaktisiddhanta that is not within the ISKCON umbrella.

 

Again, none of the current acharyas or acharya lineages still have this official "Gaudiya Math" affiliation. If an acharya was in Gaudiya Math as a disciple, they formed their own missions as acharyas. Srila Sridhar Maharaj formed his own mission, as did Srila BP Keshava Maharaj, Srila BD Madhava Maharaj, Srila BP Puri Maharaj, and Srila BV Puri Maharaj.

Check out Qiyamah on Wikipedia for So-called Judgment day.

 

 

No. Just wondering. Once a Muslim dropped some water on my head when I was 10 years old. I think I'm already a Muslim.

 

Muslims don't baptize like Christians. They Each make the oath of faith;

 

Asshadu Anla ILAH ILLA LLAH ASSHAHADU ANNA MUHAMMADAN ABDUHU WA RASULULUHU.

 

Or were you joking? If so ... LOL!

 

People seem to ignore that fact that Sridhar Maharaja left the Gaudiya Matha and established his own matha called Sri Caitanya Saraswata Matha.

 

Technically as well as practically, the institution of Sridhar Maharaja was NOT Gaudiya Matha.

 

As Sridhar Maharaja said that he did not allow even things that his spiritual master allowed, his Matha was definitely NOT Gaudiya Matha.

 

 

I believe just about every so-called "GM Guru", including Srila Sridhar Maharaj, has disassociated themselves from "Gaudiya Math".

 

you do make affirmation!

you give citation.

better

no conflagration.

 

Yay! Another thread where the ISKCON and ritvik proponents quote Prabhupada when he says don't go to Gaudiya Math, then the pro-GM group of people makes quotes that has Prabhupada as being favorable toward several "Gaudiya Math" gurus, then the pro-ISKCONers and rtvks repost original quotes, then the pro-GM camp quotes Prabhupada when he says something unrelated to GM-gurus that shouldn't be taken literally.

 

I can't wait to see this one take shape, I lost the 100 GM versus ISKCON and ritvik threads that I archived.

I know someone with psoraisis and an ayurvedic doctor said he had an effective treatment. Has anyone here tried the ayurvedic path?

Muslims are like us in many ways. They too don't want just a quote, they want a source to tack on to it. Just like how we've heard "Prabhupad said" so many times, they too have heard "Mohammad said" in the same context.

 

It would be best to find where exactly your quote comes from. Is it directly from Qur'an, or is it Haditha? "Puranas Islamic"? What do they call that? If you're referring to Qur'an, please provide a Sura and verse #.

Forget this person and try to find a sattvic relationship with a lady who is really pious, and who comes from a good family (I'm not talking about caste, but good, pious, ethical people).

Go the slow and steady path, do what you can. Some may say to give it all up and become a monk if you like a few kirtans, but there is a burnout potential. Read Bhagavad Gita first, and move on to other texts, and hear from devotees. The pastimes of Sri Caitanya are sweet to read, as well, once you have some rudimentary knowledge of Gaudiya Vaishnavism.

You should specify which sura in the Qur'an that is from.

 

I think it's an interesting verse, one I hope to point Muslims to in the future

It's great for storage.

 

Again...this is hearsay. Some followers of Sripad Narayana Mahraja may say this, not all.

 

Where does Sripad Narayana Maharaja specifically make it clear that these "some followers" are clearly wrong?

 

I find this to be rather offensive. You obviously have a strong opinion, but why not phrase it in a gentlemenly-like Vaishnava-like manner?

I don't see how he could change the essence of what is said through a simple matter of rephrasing or sugar coating.

 

I must applaud the Guest who said that we should associate with the Indian devotees, as it is great advice.

And I've been informed of Indian followers telling American followers not to stay at the math but go on the world tour instead. It seems everyone is suffering from "Grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome, and they want to blame an entire sanga for problems, and say that only an alternative situation is better.

I've learned that it's all the same diksa, whether it's in Mother Bharata or the 'evil satanic west'. When mahabhagavat is there, it's Vrindavan, apparently. Everyone is brother and sister under the umbrella of the acharya. To discount western bodied people is not only prejudicial, but it places doubt on the potency and intention of your own acharya's diksa and his intents to preach in the west. You as a westerner also give yourself a convenient excuse for constant failure.

 

"If an institution interfers with your bhakti, then burn the institution down".

This is great advice for those devotees, who like me, don't like institutionalised Gaudiya Vaisnavaism.

"All of you who are following this disciplic succession are ISKCON. Don't think that you are not. I am ISKCON. I'm not different from ISKCON" SNM, Murwillumbah, Australia: Feb. 18, 2002 (evening)

 

I've been a follower of Srila BV Narayana Maharaja from before he started coming west, and remember what it was like before his sanga became Iskcon. II. It was very different.

Who appointed these managers? Not in the past year or less, but rather, over the years? This was not an overnight process.

 

Lets say that my Guru starts a new organisation, and as part of this organisation he includes Gurukulas and appoints the teachers himself...

This is an interesting choice of example that you are using. According to SNM's "Did Srila Prabhupada know?" the mahabhagavat knows all about it.