I appreciate your attempt to 'correct' in your opinion the direction the others are leading me. However, your anger, your hatred, your upstaging attitude of knowing better than anyone does about, from what I am coming to understand, is a very personal path religion and culture shocks me and makes me feel very uncomfortable. I see the belief in karma as fundamental to the ideals of the hindu relgion, reguardless of what sect name you with to give it. These folks are attempting to help someone start from square one, all they can do is offer me tastes of ALL ideals of hinduism and let me choose my own path, please, please, if you will continue to be so very angry at them because perhaps thier paths are not yours, don't stay with this thread.