makhanmisri

Originally posted by Tarun:

Even today most Vedik scholars will NOT accept CC as zAstra.

What exactly do you mean by "Vedik scholar"?

 

 

That is Bengali's humble seva to both Deva-nagari & VrajabhAsa.

Any ideas on why Bengali/Brajabuli seems to have won out over Brajabhasha as the language of choice?

 

Only those who can transcend all ethnik, geographik & linguistik barriers can grasp, hold onto MahAprabhu's Lotus Feet.

Accha. There's not much doubt that then as now, the broad Gaudiya community was multiethnic and multilingual.

 

Thanks for your response.

 

MDd

 

Originally posted by Gauracandra:

Bhagavad Gita 5.18

 

Vidya-vinaya-sampanne

brahmane gavi hastini

suni caiva sva-pake ca

panditah sama-darsinah

 

The humble sages, by virtue of true knowledge, see with equal vision a learned and gentle brahmana, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater (outcaste).

Bhagavad Gita 6.32:

atmaupamyena sarvatra

samam pasyati yo ’rjuna

sukham va yadi va duhkham

sa yogi paramo matah

“He is a perfect yogi who, by comparison to his own self, sees the true equality of all beings, both in their happiness and distress, O Arjuna!”

MDd

Originally posted by Gauracandra:

"Sri Krsna's name is directly Sri Krsna. It is a spiritual, transcendental object full of liquid mellowness. The divine name arises or manifests itself upon the tongue of someone who is favorable towards service."

Lord Krsna eats japa too:

dvija-strINAM bhakte mRduni vidurAnne vraja-gavAM

dadhi-kSIre sakhyuH sphuTa-cipita-muSTau mura-ripo

yazodAyAH stanye vraja-yuvati-datte madhuni te

yathAsId Amodas tam imam upahAre 'pi kurutAm

"O Lord Mura-ripu, just as you delighted in the succulent meals offered by the yajJika brAhmaNas' wives, the foodstuffs of Vidura, the dairy products of Your cows in Vraja, the puffed rice in the fist of Your

friend (SudAmA), the breast-milk from Your mother Yashoda, and the sweets given to You by the young girls in Vraja, so I hope You will accept even this offering."

Originally posted by dasa:

Dear Makhanmisri, I did not see that original quote by jndas in this thread. Could you tell me which thread it came from. It may not matter, but i wanted to see in what context the idea was presented.

Sorry, it's from a long time ago (6/17/01). Observing that cponversational Sanskrit is rather rare and difficult, Talasiga asked why one wouldn't just learn Radha and Krsna's language.

MDd

Originally posted by jndas:

Hindi did not exist 5,000 years ago, and certainly had nothing to do with Krishna. Brij bhash today has been influenced by many other languages, as have all Indian languages.

This seems a rather harsh dismissal. It's possible to arbitrate a "pure" Braja-bhasha if one takes the medieval poetry for which that language is best known as one's ideal. It's also true that some of the most notable medieval Gaudiya Vaishnavas (including those from distant Tamil Nadu) chose to adopt Braj as their vehicle of devotional expression. Most employed Braja-buli instead, but one could just as easily dismiss that, as it's also a new Indo-Aryan language. The six gosvamis and others wrote in Sanskrit, and it's a good question, to ask why they almost exclusively did so even though everyone around them was writing in Braj. Anyone have any theories about this? Thanks,

Mukunda Datta dasa

Originally posted by Sirona:

If Shri Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead - what then is Shri Balarama for?

In Srimad-Bhagavatam, 10.8.22, Srila Prabhupada writes:

"Thereafter, Lord Krsna, along with Balarama, began to play with the other children of the cowherd men, thus awakening the transcendental bliss of the cowherd women."

PURPORT

"The word saha-ramah, meaning “along with Balarama,” is significant in this verse. In such transcendental pastimes, Krsna is the chief hero, and Balarama provides additional help."

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MDd