mahakala

"Krsnas tu Bhagavan svyam" Krsna is the highest. He is the one from whom all else eminates. Also, Krsnalila is the most intimate pastime. That is not found between Lord Visnu and Srimate Laksmi devi. Laksmi worships Her Lord in awe and reverence. Srimate Radharani worships in loving devotion.

Your above explanation is based on Gaudiya Siddhanta who have their own authoritative scriptures, which are not accepted by Hindus.

I personally, do believe there was a dravidian culture in pakistan and north india at one point.

You are entitled t o your opinion.

FYI , Mahadevan is one of the world's foremost experts on the Indus script, who is more authoritative on this subject than you.

This is what he says

Mr. Mahadevan commented that the latest discovery was very strong evidence that the Neolithic people of Tamil Nadu and the Indus Valley people "shared the same language, which can only be Dravidian and not Indo-Aryan." He added that before this discovery, the southernmost occurrence of the Indus script was at Daimabad, Maharashtra on the Pravara River in the Godavari Valley.

You dont follow the discussion do you ?

My point - where is the scriptural evidence to prove Sri Vaishnavas worship the opulent Personality of Lord Narayana ?

no proof that swami narayan is mentioned in this verse, these verses dont specificaly mention him at all

 

 

Before one takes on the task to critic Swami Narayan sampradaya, first one should examine one's own sampradayam's authenticity.

That is - how strictly it follows the siddhanta expounded by its purva acharyas.

hari om tat sat

YRD

That is puzzling since the Sri Sampradaya worships God in His opulent Sri Narayana personality

 

 

Thats a LIE /images/graemlins/grin.gif

hari om tat sat

YRD

I am so sure that your good self, does not want the karma of offenses to a vaishnava !

 

 

Before speculating anything about Kulpayavan prabhuji, check out his posts on this forum

 

 

Also if you have a better explanation, please offer the same

 

 

I have mention earlier my authority is based on visistadvaita. Now you go and check the visistadvaita explanation.

hari om tat sat

YRD

you call it speculation, I call it thinking

 

 

it is my signature. if you paid any real attention, it would have been obvious

 

 

I will question your signature if it misrepresents the TRUTH

hari om tat sat

YRD

I have searched the tikas on this verse available to me, and there is not much I can find. my comment is based on the verse itself

 

 

I dismiss your comment as mayavadi speculation

as to virata-rupa's position there is a ton of references out there. I suggest you google some of them if interested

 

 

I asked for the precise references - and now you are posing it back to me

as to varnas and barbarians - that is a different topic. if you like to discuss it please start a new thread

 

 

Why did you bring IT up in the first place, when it has no relevance to this thread ?

hari om tat sat

YRD

"Lokesa Visnu ENTERED the virat-rupa. That would obviously imply Him being separate from it, at least in the sense of origin"

I am asking for a authoritative commentary on the position of the virat rupa's position, not your speculation.

In case you want to know - I follow visistadvaita

"Varnashrama - the difference between "Aryan" and "barbarian"

Who are the barbarians you are referring to and where is this definition of varna and shrama stated in the scriptures ?

hari om tat sat

YRD

" Yes the form of the lord as the virat rupa is not eternal.

Also yes loka-isa is of the material world, not the spirtual world "

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Are you a mayavadi ? Quote me the authoritative pramana to support your claim - virat rupa is not eternal ?

Thanks

Hari Om Tat Sat

YRD

gHari asked

"If not authorative, then what are they?"

I am not here to educate you, on the valid pramanas of the vedanta system.

Hari Om Tat Sat

YRD

gHari

1) Only the gaudiyas and some other minor sects accept Puranas as authoritative.

2) Lord Shiva's response should be read in context to Parvathy's query

paarvaty uvaacha

kenopaayena laghunaa vishhNor naama sahasrakam

paThyate panDitair nityam shrotum-ichchhaam-yaham prabho

Parvati said : Pray spell out the easy method by which the thousand names of Lord Vishnu could be deemed to have

been recited by learned persons daily. I wish to be enlightened by you My Lord.

ishvara uvaacha

shriiraama raama raameti rame raame manorame

sahasra naama tattulyam raamanaama varaanane

Isvara said : Here you are, Sri Rama's name, being the delightful source of mental exhilaration, I take

great delight in reciting it repeatedly, any length of time. Rama's name is indeed on par with the

thousand names of Lord Vishnu spelt out in this Hymnal, O my blessed lady.

Hari Om Tat Sat