Pandu_das

Hare Krishna. If anyone wants to pursue this (to me $20,000 is a lot of money, but maybe one can be purchased used, or something), the route I would recommend is to visit the USDA Agricultural Research Service web site: http://www.ars.usda.gov/main/main.htm My former supervisor is no longer on their phone directory, which I take to mean that he's retired. We worked on isolating corn proteins, and the milk dryer was just sitting there from a previous use. So I never used it, but he told me that it works by spraying the milk in this big fat glass tube. This particular machine was on the third floor of the Eastern Regional Research Center, main building, in the lab closest to the entrance to the pilot plant. There's a good chance it's still sitting there. I'm pretty sure that if someone were to call the USDA ARS, it would be fairly easy to find someone who knows about this stuff. They're all extreme nerds there (I say that in a nice way!), and friendly, helpful, etc. I think if someone's serious they could get info on how to purchase one of these machines fairly quickly. Obviously, getting the money would be something else, but I guess for some people that would be the easy part. Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna. About six years ago I worked in a USDA laboratory, and we had a pilot-size milk dryer in the room. It was about 4 feet tall, and was situated on a lab countertop. I remember my supervisor telling me that it cost about $20,000. Hare Krishna.

A devotee family who are friends of mine have a cow who gave milk for about six years, slowing to about a gallon a day for the last few years. Then they went to India for several months, leaving the cow with other devotees to care for. During this time, the cow stopped giving milk for about six months. When the family returned, the cow began giving them milk again, and stopped again after maybe a year. Then they bought a calf at an auction, and the cow started giving milk for the calf. Hare Krishna

While it is true that Krishna may want to serve us by sublimating our sexual fluids for us, there are also simple techniques that we can do to facilitate this. I don't know if if's a Vaishnava aphorism, but my grandmother taught me that "God helps those who help themselves." Anyway, sublimating our sexual energy is important enough that we might want address it from a variety of angles. Here's a few techniques to try: First of all, be vigilent in the mind. Consider the progress toward action: thinking, feeling, and willing. Observe your thoughts, and catch sexual thoughts early in the process. If you are sensitive to your body, you may notice that the sexual fluids are drawn from throughout your body and gradually become more gross as your attachment to sexual pleasure goes from thinking to feeling to willing to doing. This decent fo the sexual fluid creates samskaras that act in a way that carves a path making it easier for the descent to occur in the near future. If you allow the sexual fluid to descend once, then it will be easier for the same thing to occur in the near future. Redirect your mind to spiritual subjects and create spiritual samskaras instead. Train yourself to remember Krishna whenever the idea of sex comes to mind, especially remembering His feet or the movements of His eyebrows. --- Also, there are exercises which are helpful. One that I've found to work well is described in a book called _Ancient Secret of the Fountain of Youth_ by Peter Kelder. It is mostly about a kriya commonly called "The Five Tibetans." Doing a search with that phrase will turn up a few sites that describe them. They're very good exercises to do. There is also a sixth exercise meant for those who are serious enough to be celibate. I haven't found it described anywhere on the Internet, but I'll try to describe it from memory: 1. Put your hands on your hips. Exhale completely. 2. Bend at the waste and place your hands on your knees. Exhale some more. Keep the breath out. 3. Straighten up. Keep the breath out. Place your hands on your hips. 4. Apply mula-bandha. (means: contract and raise the muscles of the anal sphincter and the muscles that stop the flow of urine.) Draw the diaphragm up into the rib cage. ("Uddiyana Bandha") Keep the breath exhaled completely. Keep your back straight. Drop the chin down, and then draw the chin back closer to the chest so the back of the neck does not round. ("Jhalandara Bandha") These three body locks combined form 'maha-bandha,' the great lock, sublimating and raising the semen. 5. Hold the complete step 4 as long as you can, with the breath out. When you must, inhale, then exhale again, beginning step 1 again. Repeat this whole procedure 3 times. Mula-bhanda description: http://yoga.about.com/od/howtospeakyoga/g/mulabandha.htm Uddiyana Bandha description: http://yoga.about.com/od/howtospeakyoga/g/uddiyanabandha.htm Jhalandara Bandha: http://yoga.about.com/od/howtospeakyoga/g/jhalandara.htm ------ Sit in the pose that Hanuman is often shown. That would be, sitting on your left heel, with the heel between the anus and genitals. Right foot is flat on the floor with knee up. Hands are pressed flat together in front of the sternum. It will probably be uncomfortable at first, but it gets easier with practice. I learned this pose by the name "virasana," but I apparently don't know the correct spelling because I can't seem to find it on the Internet. ------- Practice "Sat Kriya" A description is found here: http://www.susankezios.com/Kriyas/BASIC%20SPINAL%20ENERGIZER%20SERIES.htm It's part 9 of this "basic spinal energy series." Actually, this whole set is helpful for what you're asking. ========= Of course, if you set your mind on chanting Hare Krishna without deviation and without stopping, then your purpose is achieved. Personally, although I've been chanting Hare Krishna for almost 10 years, I haven't been able to chant it very nicely even once. These techniques I've described above are helpful too. Perhaps it's a part of Krishna carrying to you what you lack. Conquering the sex impulse is very difficult, but with practice it can be done, especially by attacking it on all levels. The kriyas described above hit it on the physical and mental levels, and remembering Krishna's name and form works on the spiritual level. Also, dancing in kirtan with the arms upraised is helpful for achieving this goal. Hare Krishna. Your servant, Pandu das