vanamali

Nothing about lotus here, but anyway about Krishna's beauty, which is similarly captivating

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adharAhita cAru vamSa nALA:

makuTalambi mayUra pinchamAlA: |

harinIla SilAvibhanga-lIlA:

pratibhA: santu mamAntima prayANe ||

May the resplendent blue jyoti of Gopala reminding one of an incomparable blue gem stone (indranIla or blue sapphire), with blue peacock feather decorations on His dark black hair and the divine flute on His lips appear before me during the last moments of my life on this earth.

Tried to find some quotes with "Pankaja" but found some other "lotus" quotes with words like Kamala and Nalina... anyway, please enjoy them, still it is the same meaning as your name /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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<font color="red"> Kamala </font color> Kucha Choochuka Kumkumato

Niyataruni Thathula Nila Thano

<font color="red"> Kamalayatha </font color> Lochana Loka Pathe

Vijayee Bhava Venkata Sailapathe

O Govinda! The kumkuma from the breasts of <font color="red"> Kamala (Sri)</font color> has made your body red, even though you are blue by nature;

O wide, <font color="red"> lotus</font color>-eyed Lord of the three worlds

May you always be victorious, Lord of Venkata hill!

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shrii sheshhashaila suniketana divyamuurte

naaraayaNaachyuta hare <font color="red">NALINAAyataaksha . </font color>

liilaakaTaaksha parirakshita sarvaloka

shrii ve~NkaTesha mama dehi karaavalambam.h .. 1..

O Govinda, Lord of Venkata, whose form is transcendent

Narayana, Achyuta, Hari, with broad

<font color="red"> lotus </font color> eyes, you who protect all the worlds

with a playful sidelong glance of your eyes,

Sri Venkatesha, give me the support of your hand!

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It doesn't mean to say they are disregarded but this is the nature of disicplic succession.

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Saying that she is not part of Gaudiya parampara, and that he would not like his devotees following her example, that is a different story altogether, and perfectly acceptable from my perspective.

It would be nice if the comment ("Gaudiya Math eliminates Mirabhai... from the category of <font color="red"> real devotees </font color> ") had included something like "as far as real devotees that express the Gaudiya ideal..." or "For those who consider themselves disciples in the Gaudiya tradition, this is not acceptable." Perspective does make a difference.

(Otherwise it kind of sounds like, "Oh such-and-such was not a real devotee, so you can say whatever you want about her. She loved God, but anyway you don't have to respect her because this verse in Adi Purana says you have to serve the devotees, and we think she did not serve the devotees.")

You have got a very beautiful name. Whenever you hear someone calling your name, you can remember Krishna's lotus feet, lotus eyes, etc. etc... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Therefore, Gaudiya Math eliminates Mirabhai and so many

other apparently great devotees from the category of real devotees,

because, although they are mad in praise of Krsna, they have little

regard for the <font color="red"> for the real devotees of Krishna </font color> .

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Please Pankaja dasji, do not take this the wrong way, but when you "eliminate" devotees from being "actual devotees," I am not sure if that would be pleasant for Krishna. I mean, classifying a devotee as being not a devotee, does that constitute service?

Just think about it. Don't get angry please, but just think about it...

Not meaning to offend, but merely to defend who I consider as a great devotee... but anyway if you don't accept her that's okay. Few accepted her in her day as well. However, to insinuate that Krishna also did not accept her, is intolerable for me.

I think when Meera sang "Mere to Giridhara Gopala, dusaro na koi!" she served generations upon generations of devotees, because whenever we hear her words, we remember that Krishna is our only shelter in this world.

I feel she has served beyond what most of us will ever accomplish, with her divine gift of music, and therefore I worship her lotus feet.

And remember, by serving Krishna, we serve everyone. Especially the devotees. If Krishna sees you serving a devotee, He will be more pleased than if you served Him. Similarly, if you serve Krishna, the devotees will be more pleased than if you serve them. And thus the joy of both is tied together...

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Yes, Lakshmi is Vishnupriya. Bhudevi is also Vishnupriya. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

How lovely!

It's easy to be attracted to Krishna... Krishna is all-attractive you know... He is virtuous, playful, heroic... He is handsome... stylish (thought of wearing earrings before David Bowie or any of those other guys decided it was cool /images/graemlins/wink.gif Long black hair... and besides that He is god, He is living forever in your heart, He is the only person through your many births that remembers you through ALL of them, that is always with you through all your existence.

So how can Radha not love Him?

MADHURASHTAKAM

(listen at http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/02000H000P )

adharaM madhuraM vadanaM madhuraM

nayanaM madhuraM hasitaM madhuram |

h.rdayaM madhuraM gamanaM madhuraM

madhurAdhipaterakhilaM madhuram || 1 ||

vacanaM madhuraM caritaM madhuraM

vasanaM madhuraM valitaM madhuram |

calitaM madhuraM bhramitaM madhuraM

madhurAdhipaterakhilaM madhuram || 2 ||

veNurmadhuro reNurmadhuraH

pANirmadhuraH pAdau madhurau |

n.rtyaM madhuraM sakhyaM madhuraM

madhurAdhipaterakhilaM madhuram || 3 ||

gItaM madhuraM pItaM madhuraM

bhuktaM madhuraM suptaM madhuram |

rUpaM madhuraM tilakaM madhuraM

madhurAdhipaterakhilaM madhuram || 4 ||

karaNaM madhuraM taraNaM madhuraM

haraNaM madhuraM smaraNaM madhuram |

vamitaM madhuraM shamitaM madhuraM

madhurAdhipaterakhilaM madhuram || 5 ||

gu~njA madhurA bAlA madhurA

yamunA madhurA vIcI madhurA |

salilaM madhuraM kamalaM madhuraM

madhurAdhipaterakhilaM madhuram || 6 ||

gopI madhurA lIlA madhurA

yuktaM madhuraM muktaM madhuram |

d.rShTaM madhuraM shiShTaM madhuraM

madhurAdhipaterakhilaM madhuram || 7 ||

gopA madhurA gAvo madhurA

yaShTirmadhurA s.rShTirmadhurA |

dalitaM madhuraM phalitaM madhuraM

madhurAdhipaterakhilaM madhuram || 8 ||

iti shrImad vallabhAcAryaviracitaM

madhurAShTakaM saMpUrNam

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Meaning:

Sweet are Your lips, sweet is Your face, sweet are Your eyes, sweet is Your smile, sweet is Your

heart, sweet is Your gait, O Lord of Mathura, everything about You is sweet.

Sweet are Your words, sweet is Your story, sweet are Your garments, sweet is Your presence,

sweet are Your movements, sweet are Your roamings, O Lord of Mathura, everything about You is sweet.

Sweet is Your flute, sweet is the dust of Your feet, sweet are Your hands, sweet are Your feet,

sweet is Your dance, sweet is Your friendship, O Lord of Mathura, everything about You is sweet.

Sweet is Your song, what is drunk by You is sweet, what is eaten by You is sweet, and sweet is

Your sleep. Sweet is Your form, sweet is the mark on Your forehead, O Lord of Mathura,

everything about You is sweet.

Sweet are Your works, sweet is Your conquest, sweet is Your theft, sweet is Your remembrance,

sweet are Your offerings, sweet is Your cure, O Lord of Mathura,

everything about You is sweet.

Sweet is Your murmuring, sweet is Your garland, sweet is the Yamuna River, sweet are the

waves, sweet is the water, sweet is the lotus flower, O Lord of Mathura, everything about You is sweet.

Sweet are the Gopis, sweet is Your divine sporting, sweet is Your union, sweet are Your

experiences, what You behold is sweet, sweet are Your left overs, O Lord of Mathura, everything about You is sweet.

Sweet are the Gopas, sweet are the cows, sweet are the pearls around Your neck, sweet is

Your creation, sweet are Your victories, sweet are Your jokes, O Lord of Mathura, everything about You is sweet.

Thus is completed the Madhuraashtakam of Sri Vallabhacharya

from http://www.pndwarka.com/71generation.htm

1. Brahma

2. Daksha

3. Vivasvat

4. Manu

5. Chandra

6. Pururava

7. Aayu

8. Nahush

9. Yayati

10. Yadu

11. Kroshtu

12. Vrujjinvanta

13. Swahi

14. Swati

15. Rasadu

16. Chitrarath

17. Shashabindu

18. Pruthusravas

19. Antar

20. Suyajna

21. Ushanas

22. Shineyu

23. Maruta

24. Kambalbarhis

25. Rukmakavach

26. Paravrushta

27. Jayamadh

28. Vidarbh

29. Kray

30. Kunti

31. Dhashti

32. Nivrutti

33. Dashai

34. Vyom

35. Jimut

36. Vikruti

37. Bhimrath

38. Rathvar

39. Navrath

40. Dashrath

41. Ekadashrath

42. Shakuni

43. Kurambhi

44. Devrat

45. Devkshetra

46. Devan

47. Madhu

48. Puruvash

49. Puruhotra

50. Anshu

51. Satvat

52. Bhim

53. Bhajman

54. Chitrarath

55. Vidurath

56. Shoor

57. Sharman

58. Pratikshatra

59. Swayambhoj

60. Hridik

61. Devbhithush

62. Shoor

63. Vasudev

64. <font color="red"> KRISHNA </font color>

65. Pradyumna

66. Aniruddha

67. Vajranabha

68. Pratibahu

69. Subahu

70. Shantasen

71. Shatasen

see image of family tree at http://www.pndwarka.com/photo_gallary/34.htm

Is this one of the reasons why cows are special??

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I believe she came out at the time of the churning of ksheerasaagara (kurmavataram). She is kamadhenu... she fulfills all wishes, like the Parijata. Ghee from her milk was to be used for offering into the fire... she is the mother of all cows.

if there are any errors in this, please correct me.

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The International Phonetic Alphabet used by Linguists all around the world, is based on Sanskrit.

Why, I do believe that is Kamadhenu!

So many commecials are for anti-depressants too.

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Krishna is the best anti-depressant /images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://www.iskconbangalore.org/contents/vaishnava/

Yes, tomorrow is ekaadashi /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Are you talking about Seeta Rama Kalyanam- Telugu film with NT Rama Rao who makes an excellent Ravana (whereas usually He plays God... He's the best Krishna ever!)

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Sorry, my memory is not so good /images/graemlins/smile.gif I changed prev. post so as not to confuse anybody. Anyway, the point is the SAME...

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Hello Vishnupriya. Are you named after Gauraanga's Vishnupriya?

both bhagavata and bhagavata purana are very sacred, and should be treated with utmost love and care /images/graemlins/smile.gif

#2 That you shouldn't speculate on what the Mantra means.

--- Prabhupada says there is no NEED to know what it means, not that we shouldn't ever find out!!

We know the literal meaning of the words. No need to speculate.

Hare = hari (name of the Lord) meaning theif (as in theif of love or of mind)

Krishna = the Lord (meaning dark and attractive)

Rama = the Lord (meaning fully pleasing)

BUT the point here was that the SOUND of the words is the important, transcendant aspect, and that simply by chanting the Lord's names, without even knowing they are the Lord's names, one will benefit.

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I'm not from Tamil nadu but I am a devotee of Venkateshwaraswamy and I have read much of Sri Vaishnava writings, writings of Andal and other azhwars...

I do have a picture of Sri Ranganatha somewhere... please give me some time to find it and I will post it here /images/graemlins/smile.gif

There is a Telugu song on Venkateshwara that says that Alamelumanga (Padmavati)'s eyes are red because Her spear-like gaze pierced Govinda so deeply as to draw blood, but was suddenly drawn away, and thus the corners of Her eyes are red.

Lord Panduranga with consort Rukmini

One more...

Here is Lord Sri Hari with the three saktis, Sri, Bhu and Nila devis. Nappinnai is the equivalent of Radha in Tamil literature, and is considered to be an incarntion of Nila or Lila sakti...

I believe the Lord can be seen with all three thayars only in the temple at Tiruchcherai (murthys pictured here).\

[url=http://www.srivaishnavam.com/divyadesam108/virtualtour/vt_cherai1.htm]

if you like to offer butter for Him to eat, please offer like you offer any other food to Krishna. Most simple way is to put it on the altar before His statue or picture and if you don't know sanskrit, yeah just chant His names or even you can just simply say "Please enjoy, Bhagavan!"

Then afterwards you can partake of the remnants as prasad.